From the little I've heard from sailors in this area, it's those boats that have unprotected rudders that suffer from the play of these large beasts. Ahh, for a heavy skeg & a full keel. Safe travels & I wish you well.
Yes seems as though spade rudders (those not attached to a skeg, are most likely to be damaged . Long keels boat not so much . I think it’s the fact spade rudders are more vulnerable and less strong than those with skeg or long keels. Boats above 15m in length are less attacked .
I’m enjoying your videos very much. I noted you pointed out a replica of the Nina. Did you know that Columbus’s ships real names were names were la Santa Clara, la Pinta, and la Santa Gallega?
I’m pretty sure based only on our insurance negotiations that it’s mainly the major offshore long passages , your boats readiness and your experience that the insurance companies are interested in, not the distance offshore. They insured us for three major passages , Biscay crossing Plymouth to A Coruna , then the Atlantic coast down to Gibraltar and on to Canaries, finally the Atlantic crossing. We advised them of our strategies ie straight across Biscay , port hopping Atlantic coast, and the extra crew we were planning for the offshore passages where they advised minimum of three crew . We also sent them a sailing CV for all crew so they could be assured of our competence /experience . That’s how they come up with the insurance premium for the various sections. We used GJW and although they were a bit slow in responding (probably because they had to consult a senior broker ) we have used them for many years and found them good to deal with .
Hi good vid! Any chance of a more detailed route please ? We r hoping to do the same this year - we won’t b staying in marinas if we don’t have to !! I’ve been told that anchorages are few and far between ?? Also what sort of time scale did u do it in ? We have allowed ourselves 4 weeks to get from falmouth to vilamora ( faro ). Also I messaged before about your search light and the “ connector “ cable ? I can see where to purchase the search light but wasn’t sure where - what cable to buy to ensure that it fulfills the criteria of “ being charged from boats batteries and still being able to use it !) Thanks
Left Plymouth 1st Sept, Acorona 4th-6 Laxe- Muxia th-Muros 8th- Puntal o Grove9th- Punta Oeste de Limens 10th- Vigo 11th- Baino 12th-Viana do Castelo13th- Aveiro 14th- Figuerira da Foz15-18th-Peniche19th -Cascais20-21st -Semsimbra 22nd -Sines23rd -Lagos24-25th - Faro 26th - Chipiona 27th - Barbate28th -Gib29-3rd. Hope this helps I’ll let Paul answer the search light bit
Left Plymouth 1st Sept, Acorona 4th-6 Laxe- Muxia th-Muros 8th- Puntal o Grove9th- Punta Oeste de Limens 10th- Vigo 11th- Baino 12th-Viana do Castelo13th- Aveiro 14th- Figuerira da Foz15-18th-Peniche19th -Cascais20-21st -Semsimbra 22nd -Sines23rd -Lagos24-25th - Faro 26th - Chipiona 27th - Barbate28th -Gib29-3rd. Hope this helps I’ll let Paul answer the search light bit
Going in reverse is a good strategy but only when sea conditions allow and you do have to get your sails down and secured. The figures below on towing a dinghy don’t show any real effect . I’d be up for trying anything , many attacks have been quite swift or even un noticed until the rudder gets hit so not a lot of time . One Catamaman got both rudders destroyed in under 5 mins .
Hi Paul The Buying of these in Europe and UK is banned , only in Spain can you buy them . They are more powerful than the old bangers I remember., and they are classed as explosives so you need to declare them and any firearms at customs in the various countries you visit . You then need a license to have them . Using them for purposes other than fireworks displays would be prohibited, and any action that resulted in injury to Orca would constitute an illegal act and a fine of up to €10000 . So not sure where your info comes from , but would be interested in any references you have as it would make me feel a bit better about having them aboard for Orca Alley waters.
@@Aequitas-sailintothesunset This subject is very important as spreading the word that it is illegal to use them could not only result in the loss of life but also leave the captain open to a charge of recklessness or manslaughter. It is the responsibility of the captain to use all means possible to save lives at sea when he feels that the boat and the crew are under threat. It matters not what others think with hindsight. The admin of the Telegraph group and the scientist conducting research took this issue for European lawyers to provide guidance and the result was that no court will prosecute a skipper for doing all he can to protect his crew. If you don't trust my 'common sense ' argument then ask the guys who run the Telegraph group. If you don't want to hurt Orcas then don't carry firecrackers. It you carry firecrackers and don't use them and lose a crew due to Orcas sinking your boat then you can expect to be charged in a court of law.
@paulharrison7914 Hi Paul yes agree , I would only use crackers as last line of defense , prefer other options until the boat is in danger. Don’t see any clarity from the authorities , and quite how they would prosecute ,who knows. What’s your strategy(s) ?
@Aequitas-sailintothesunset I carry pyrotechnics in a safe container like any other boat - for use in emergency. There have been a number of contributions to chat groups by lawyers over the past few years. I wouldn't take seriously what 'scientists' tell you about being prosecuted for defending your crew. Not going to happen in any court.
Wow wold love join you as crew. Im from leeds uk
Another great video Paul & Mary. Keep up the good work and safe travels.
From the little I've heard from sailors in this area, it's those boats that have unprotected rudders that suffer from the play of these large beasts. Ahh, for a heavy skeg & a full keel. Safe travels & I wish you well.
Yes seems as though spade rudders (those not attached to a skeg, are most likely to be damaged . Long keels boat not so much . I think it’s the fact spade rudders are more vulnerable and less strong than those with skeg or long keels. Boats above 15m in length are less attacked .
I’m enjoying your videos very much. I noted you pointed out a replica of the Nina. Did you know that Columbus’s ships real names were names were la Santa Clara, la Pinta, and la Santa Gallega?
Just found ur channel, really enjoyed all the info and narration, well done. Thanks for sharing 🇦🇺👍😁🌊
A glass bottomed boat! Is that so the modern Spanish Navy can see the old Spanish Navy?
Now that’s a thought glass bottom, then you could sit in the privacy of your saloon and watch as the Orcas chew off your rudder ? 😂
I heard sailing far offshore can have implications for your insurance policy in the area. Not sure why.
I’m pretty sure based only on our insurance negotiations that it’s mainly the major offshore long passages , your boats readiness and your experience that the insurance companies are interested in, not the distance offshore. They insured us for three major passages , Biscay crossing Plymouth to A Coruna , then the Atlantic coast down to Gibraltar and on to Canaries, finally the Atlantic crossing. We advised them of our strategies ie straight across Biscay , port hopping Atlantic coast, and the extra crew we were planning for the offshore passages where they advised minimum of three crew . We also sent them a sailing CV for all crew so they could be assured of our competence /experience . That’s how they come up with the insurance premium for the various sections. We used GJW and although they were a bit slow in responding (probably because they had to consult a senior broker ) we have used them for many years and found them good to deal with .
Hi good vid! Any chance of a more detailed route please ? We r hoping to do the same this year - we won’t b staying in marinas if we don’t have to !! I’ve been told that anchorages are few and far between ?? Also what sort of time scale did u do it in ? We have allowed ourselves 4 weeks to get from falmouth to vilamora ( faro ).
Also I messaged before about your search light and the “ connector “ cable ? I can see where to purchase the search light but wasn’t sure where - what cable to buy to ensure that it fulfills the criteria of “ being charged from boats batteries and still being able to use it !)
Thanks
Left Plymouth 1st Sept, Acorona 4th-6 Laxe- Muxia th-Muros 8th- Puntal o Grove9th- Punta Oeste de Limens 10th- Vigo 11th- Baino 12th-Viana do Castelo13th- Aveiro 14th- Figuerira da Foz15-18th-Peniche19th -Cascais20-21st -Semsimbra 22nd -Sines23rd -Lagos24-25th - Faro 26th - Chipiona 27th - Barbate28th -Gib29-3rd. Hope this helps I’ll let Paul answer the search light bit
Left Plymouth 1st Sept, Acorona 4th-6 Laxe- Muxia th-Muros 8th- Puntal o Grove9th- Punta Oeste de Limens 10th- Vigo 11th- Baino 12th-Viana do Castelo13th- Aveiro 14th- Figuerira da Foz15-18th-Peniche19th -Cascais20-21st -Semsimbra 22nd -Sines23rd -Lagos24-25th - Faro 26th - Chipiona 27th - Barbate28th -Gib29-3rd. Hope this helps I’ll let Paul answer the search light bit
Best thing i have seen on youtube for orcas, is get in reverse flat out, tie of dinhgy of bow, wait till they get bored
Going in reverse is a good strategy but only when sea conditions allow and you do have to get your sails down and secured. The figures below on towing a dinghy don’t show any real effect . I’d be up for trying anything , many attacks have been quite swift or even un noticed until the rudder gets hit so not a lot of time . One Catamaman got both rudders destroyed in under 5 mins .
Fire crackers are not illegal if used in self defense.
Hi Paul
The Buying of these in Europe and UK is banned , only in Spain can you buy them . They are more powerful than the old bangers I remember., and they are classed as explosives so you need to declare them and any firearms at customs in the various countries you visit . You then need a license to have them . Using them for purposes other than fireworks displays would be prohibited, and any action that resulted in injury to Orca would constitute an illegal act and a fine of up to €10000 . So not sure where your info comes from , but would be interested in any references you have as it would make me feel a bit better about having them aboard for Orca Alley waters.
@@Aequitas-sailintothesunset This subject is very important as spreading the word that it is illegal to use them could not only result in the loss of life but also leave the captain open to a charge of recklessness or manslaughter. It is the responsibility of the captain to use all means possible to save lives at sea when he feels that the boat and the crew are under threat. It matters not what others think with hindsight. The admin of the Telegraph group and the scientist conducting research took this issue for European lawyers to provide guidance and the result was that no court will prosecute a skipper for doing all he can to protect his crew. If you don't trust my 'common sense ' argument then ask the guys who run the Telegraph group. If you don't want to hurt Orcas then don't carry firecrackers. It you carry firecrackers and don't use them and lose a crew due to Orcas sinking your boat then you can expect to be charged in a court of law.
@paulharrison7914
Hi Paul yes agree , I would only use crackers as last line of defense , prefer other options until the boat is in danger. Don’t see any clarity from the authorities , and quite how they would prosecute ,who knows. What’s your strategy(s) ?
@Aequitas-sailintothesunset I carry pyrotechnics in a safe container like any other boat - for use in emergency. There have been a number of contributions to chat groups by lawyers over the past few years. I wouldn't take seriously what 'scientists' tell you about being prosecuted for defending your crew. Not going to happen in any court.