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A Fountain Pen Users Guide to Brush Pens (featuring the Kuretake number 8)
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Hello pen friends!
Do you own any brush pens? Looking for a good way to start learning how to use them? I hope this video helps! I’m looking at one of the cheapest pens I own, the Kuretake number 8. It’s pretty reliable and consistent, and I think it would be a great place to start with brush pens if you’re not sure if you will like them.
Here’s the pen (which comes with ink cartridges):
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Chapters:
00:00 introduction
01:12 parts and features
04:23 test lines and common problems
10:42 skill building tips
13:52 brush pen exercises
16:00 drawing sample
18:53 final thoughts
I do some urban sketching with a brush pen when I’m trying to a loose style. I also (mainly) use a brush pen to sign my watercolor paintings. It gives me a brush like signature but is more consistent than trying to sign with paint.
I think if you have the wrist control, a brush pen would be fantastic for urban sketching. The few times I have tried live drawing like that, I have not been able to make anything I liked in a reasonable amount of time. Brush pens would help with speed.
I have one of these and love it, too!
I've been using my Kuretake 13(?) a lot. It's got great line variety and gives my drawings a different feel. Sometimes with a fountain pen I go overboard with hatching, etc but with a brush pen it's not as possible. I like that you can use a converter and replace the bristles. I use platinum carbon black Noodlers heart of darkness
I love both of those inks, and I totally agree about the limitations. I feel like I know I have a good design when I could ink it with either a fountain pen + hatching or a brush pen, and it would still look good. The brush pen really helps me figure out what shapes I need to emphasize.
Good to see a fellow southpaw
We won’t be left out.
I have the one that looks just like a fountain pen , I can't remember the number , but I bought a spare brush for it and I haven't needed to switch it out yet . I bought a converter when I got it and I've even left it inked up with noodlers heart of darkness for months at a time , and it never dried up .
Yeah, these are really versatile pens. Kuretake is probably my favorite brand, but there are a lot of great options from other brands as well.
I can attest the brush pen is difficult to use but its potential is limitless. I have a Pentel Pocket Brush and use it once in a while but it’s polar opposite to a fountain pen. I bought it about 10 years ago for Chinese calligraphy, which I think it is best suited. Occasionally I try to use it to “draw” but it’s an extreme learning curve I don’t have the patience for. Maybe some day…?!
All of these things are exactly how I feel about brush pens. Maybe today? It will always be there for you anyway.
Just ordered one of these...I like brush pens because I love flexible (and fude) nibs!
I think you’ll love it.
I love drawing with a brush. Drawing from the shoulder in general is recommended, it is more ergonomic. The long body on the brush pen allows you to adjust grip for further line manipulation. When I teach drawing a lot of my instruction is showing the various ways to hold the drawing media, and moving from the shoulder. Drawing on an surface that tilts up or standing with an easel also makes a difference.
Brushes seem like a great tool for teaching. If students can hold a brush right and make consistent lines, I feel like no other tool will hold them back!
@@stepheninks Definitely! I feel other things like confidence and a lack of encouragement when things get hard, hold back students more than any medium can.
Brush pens led to fountain pens for me. I started out with felt tip brush pens, then tried Kuratake and Pentel *actual* brush pens. But once I started exploring ink options, actual fountain pens won me over pretty quickly. I love brush pens in theory, but I end up going to a fountain pen 9 times out of 10 (love the Sailor Fude de Mannen if I want that variable line width).
Love fuses too. Maybe my desire for brush pen skills has something to do with how challenging they are, and not wanting to give up because “it’s too hard,” which is something I have thought many times.
Also, maybe I should just calm down.
@@stepheninks As a note for line & wash usage, Kuretake *does* have very water resistant pigmented ink cartridges as options, both for refills and in some pens (No.85). In my opinion, they are just as suitable as Platinum Carbon Black (to the point of mild suspicion on my part that Platinum makes more than just their converters).
Pentel Pocket Brush Pen is waterproof ink too, but I personally like Kuretake ink and tips better for linework -- would probably go Pentel for big expressive calligraphy.
Good to know-I've never seen them. And of course you can load Carbon Black or other inks into this pen with a Platinum converter or by using a syringe to fill the plastic cartridge @@TymberJ
@@TymberJ interesting. I didn’t know they had different ink types. I can confirm that the Pentel Pocket brush pens put out beautiful waterproof ink lines.
Or Platinum cartridges … if you want waterproof ink.
Nice! I find people don’t seem to realize it’s a portable paint brush. It’s not a fountain pen or a fude pen, it’s a paint brush.
People who actually draw with brushes have a lower learning curve than those who simply paint in areas with brushes after drawing with something else. Best practice is to try out using a rigger (or small tip) brush and paint only. Draw some lines and objects just using the rigger then maybe move to a #2 brush.
Try using whatever you already have to see if you like drawing with a paint brush as it does 3x as much as any pen. But it takes some practice.
The No 8 is awesome and I find it easier to use than say the Pentel when it comes to consistent fine lines.
Yeah, the dictionary definition of a fountain pen includes the metal nib, and the more I thought about it, the more I realized it truly is its own category.
I actually got into brush pens before I got into fountain pens, from watching comic artists like Skottie Young and many others using them. I find that compared to using a traditional brush for line work, the brush pen has a bit less control, due to the bristles being more saturated with ink. However, the portability cannot be denied.
I have a few other brush pens that I hope to make videos on in the future.
@@stepheninksThanks 👍
That long and the bristle hasn't worn off? Wow! I really wanted to get one but I was worried about how much the bristle wore out. I can't commit to get one.
Still going strong many years later. Also, kuretake makes replacement tips for these pens, so if the worst happened, you could still get your pen back.
@@stepheninks Would really consider getting the fancy looking one now... Thank you.
My question comes from the opposite direction - how or when is a brush pen preferable to a normal watercolor brush? Also I wonder if the brush pen won't run out of ink rather rapidly.
Nice dragon.
I have been waiting for someone to notice my dragon all day. Thank you.
My experience with the brush pens I have is that they handle about like a fountain pen medium nib. This dragons put me from about 1/2 full to almost empty if that helps. I would say from my experience, if you want extreme control over you lines, go with a traditional brush. For convenience and an almost perfect experience, brush pens work well. One difference I’ve noticed is that the brush pens tend to be more ink-logged than a brush of the same size would be.
The main difference is, you don’t need water or paint… and depending on brush pen, it has a top and fits in your pocket.
So if I buy this one then I can buy a converter to add my own waterproof ink in and then the converter fits into the pen? Im new to pens and ink in general
To some degree yes, but there are some important guidelines:
1) you have to get a Platinum brand converter other brands will not fit.
2) you need to use fountain pen specific inks. India inks and acrylic inks will clog your brush. Two brands of ink that are 99% waterproof (nothing is perfect) are Platinum Carbon Black, and De Atramentis Document Black. De Atramentis also makes other ink colors in their document line that are also waterproof. I trust all their colors except the white one. The white is still going to clog.
@@stepheninks thank you for the clear answer!
What's the difference between 8,13 and 14?
I have a 13, and it’s literally the same brush tip in a different body. I recommend either, just get the style you prefer. As far as the 14, it looks like it’s a disposable pen with a felt brush tip. Not refillable and the tip may wear out over time. From the reviews it seems like a lot of people like that one, so it might be good, but I feel like the 8 or the 13 might be a better experience.
@@stepheninks thanks. 8 or 13 sound better than. I have a Pentel brush pen. I love its style but hard to use and control the thickness of lines. Not sure the 8 or 13 are that much better.
You're pressing the brush too much. That's why you get such thick lines.
Yes, I’m aware. I mentioned that I am still learning. However, I’m not sure if “too much” is the best way to describe it if it’s giving me a result that I’m happy with.