As you say (allegedly) Bose, Apple, Pure Radios, John Deer and many other manufacturers purport to be environment friendly. However, they are major contributors to e-waste because they refuse to provide schematics, parts and expect you to throw away a perfectly good electrical Items once it's out of warranty and buy a new one. Best thing for us to do is to not buy their products in the first place and support the "right to repair" our own electronics bill in our state's. The above companies currently spend millions on lobbying state representatives to oppose bill's that wouldl force companies to supply parts and schematics for their products. Great vid ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
This is true, but when there were laws in place that forced companies to stock repair parts the cost of products was much higher. I remember when a 20" trinitron sold for 1000.00. I have a plasma in my shop that sold for over 10,000.00. By not having to have expensive parts stocked and have to pay repair technicians companies can use their money to develop new products and offer them at a much lower cost than they would if they had to support them after the warranty is done. I am all for the right to service but not if it is going to drive the prices back to what they used to cost.
Very good point, the price of electronics and goods come down, no more manuals, support or parts. Yes I remember my 900 Trinitron TV. This is why techs are put out of the market, we work for free now. I get my entertainment watching you do all the work as I sit here waiting for customers now.
@@12voltvids Agreed, However, so many parts are made by third parties these days, huge corps put these companies under license to prevent them selling spares for out of warranty kit. $1700 laptop, Apple have chosen to stop supporting it e.g. they refuse to repair it. The part required is code locked by Apple. When you contact the company in China who manufacture the chip they say they would be more than happy to sell me the part but Apple have instructructed them not to sell it to anyone but them. The $1,700 computer is now e-waste for the sake of being able to buy a $0.60 chip from a third party supplier. This is not environmentally friendly, even though Apple purport to be so. I was insulted by their offer of $50 off a new $1,900 laptop when the part to repair the existing machine cost $0.60. I've advised my colleague to buy from another company and steer clear of the Apple (all) products,after all most are made in China and not the USA. I'm no tree hugger but I do believe in not polluting the plannet and leaving our kids to clear it up.
@@isoguy. Apple and many others do the same. Look for example at Sonos. You know, those ridiculously expensive speakers. They not only stopped supporting the older equipment, but last March 31st (no it wasn't an April fools joke either) they permanently bricked their older stand alone controller systems. I know someone that did love it, and they bricked it, sending him a coupon for 100 off a new 1000 system. He said it was a slap in the face but like the sheep he bought another system. Said he couldn't live without it. Apple sheep do the same. What was the excuse to brick a perfectly good system. According to Sonos, the batteries were reaching the end of their life and they were concerned that people would follow internet advice and change the batteries themself, which could result in a fire hazard, for which the company could be held liable for. So in other words, blame the lawyers and courts. They want to eliminate the liability by just decommissioning the device. I am waiting for a company like Tesla to start pulling that crap. Your car battery is too old, and we feel due to it's age it may be a fire hazard, therefore you need to bring the car back and buy a new one before we disable it with an over air update which will render it useless. Sonos BTW is at it again. All pre 2015 speakers and devices will no longer receive updates. This means they won't get any new streaming services. On top of that, all newer devices linked to the account will also no longer get any updates until all the older devices are removed and deactivated. Once they are removed they can no longer be reactivated. Oh, and there is another coupon to spend more money on newer Sonos crap again. No thanks.
I have fixed a hundred of these changers within the three last years. So maybe I can help a litte. The adjustment of the elevator is very simple: When you are remounting the changer after replacing the black plastic thing, first screw in the three black threaded rods all the way in until they can no longer be turned. Then insert the CD elevator into the chassis. The elevator will be then already adjusted, no further corrections required. Concerning the BPC (Black Plastic Crab): The one which is normally broken is the one on the right side. The part obviously has to withstand the highest load. I think it would make sense to take an intact part from one of the other corners and put it in the right corner, and then put the glued part in the free left corner where it has less to endure. Concerning the micro switches: Those who recognize whether a CD has been inserted (seen from above: top left) or those who recognize whether a CD has been drawn into the drawer (seen from above: bottom right) also cause problems from time to time and should therefore also getting cleaned. The height adjustment on your device also has problems, it has a hard time finding the middle position. There is another part (potentiometer? rotary switch?) below the roller in the lower right corner that can also be cleaned. However, you have to disassemble a lot, which is a bit fiddly to reassamble. In any case, unhook the springs at the front right before you start screwing. Please excuse my possibly poor English. I'm from Germany.
Won't power up means: no mechanical noises, no lights? First check the transformer, if you have voltage on the primary side, then on the secondary side. If you have: I had some changers which had been completely "dead" (no reaction even with correct transformer), but still I have no idea why.
I remember seeing many glossy magazines ads for Bose Waveradio in early 2000s, and it was always stupidly expensive for what it is. Like BOSE, Buy Overpriced Sound Equipment
Some Bose stuff is okay and I do have some Bose speakers (a pair of Bose 161 for my Sony PVM, a pair of Bose MediaMate for my desktop computer, a pair of Bose Companion 2). But, I buy them used and only if the price is right (the 161 pair I got for about $20, the MediaMate was about $20 used, and the Companion 2 was $10). I'll never buy new Bose equipment because, IMO, they're not worth what they sell at retail. If I can buy new Bose speakers, I'd rather buy Polk Audio, Klipsch, or JBL ... or save up a little more and get B&W, Definitive Technology, or Revel. As for their wave radio systems, I'd rather have an old school shelf system by a Japanese company like Aiwa, Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood, Yamaha, and so on. Those were at least cool and they're usually cheap while being decent sounding.
It's the urge to get something fixed. I've worked overtime a couple of hours yesterday (for me Friday) to get something to work. I'm a programmer who needs to do customizations in a product a customer bought as a service. And the design of it is the worst I've seen so far.
Patience is the name of the game, when comes to the electronic repair profession. Because there complex devices that will test your patience to no end.
I work the local post office and remember a guy sending his bose unit back and forth for months. Also, after 2 hours of this I would have gave it the ol gas and lighter fix lol. Good work and keep it up. Love the vids
i heard so many commercials for them on the radio bragging that radio up. they made it sound amazing but it was stupidly expensive. you'd think for that price they'd still offer support or at least not cheap out on plastic parts
"No highs, no lows..must be Bose". Had a Bose cash job with a 6-disc cartridge player. I found that it was a Clarion mech, and rather than have a tech spend hours on the unit, he gave the customer the estimate to replace the $94 mech. When we got the part, it was marked up to over $550! No, I was not going to allow that, so I called the Loss Prevention line since I viewed that markup (beyond what the actual marked up price was supposed to be) as attempted THEFT by the vendor. Turned out that our company had already been defrauded out of 41 million USD in part overcharges across the entire range of consumer electronics, especially computer parts. What I saw was just the tip of the iceberg. People from inside and outside the company went to prison, and rightly so. In addition to revealing the fraud, yes....we got the price corrected and "repaired" the customer unit without issue. Amazing how quickly the price was corrected when we objected....
@@rawr51919 It did. They basically eliminated service (to a large extent) and we were all "promoted to customer" from 2008-2010. It worked out; I now work for an electric utility and believe it will be (at least) a few weeks before people stop using electricity..
An excellent resource, I've been working on one of these with the same issue. Repaired the elevator fixture now comes the patience part, getting it all to line up. Thank you.
Lots of helpful info here for someone working on their first one. There is no way I would have know about the solder blob! Thanks for sharing the headaches as well as the victories!
Bose sounds amazing to me but their electronics are junk. I have the waveguide assembly from a dead Bose wave radio CD player. The board has 40 smd capacitors and I've heard they are all bad. Tried to change some but damaged the traces. Binned it but kept a few parts. I have the waveguide/speaker assembly hooked to an old car radio and it sounds just as good.
Crazy shit, I am a repairman myself and for hobby I repair vintage electronics. I know I could repair that too but it is not my hobby anymore F*** that. Let that be some one elses hobby, I stick to tube radio's they can be a pain in the butt to sometimes but it is pretty straightforward most of the time. Thanks for the video, I admire your perseverance.
Somewhere between a nightmare and a bad dream repairing that thing. _No replacement parts available._ *You fix it anyhow!* Maybe the entire mechanical assembly could be replaced with a USB socket and wave/mp3 player interfaced through an Arduino Sketch that tricks the Bose into thinking its OEM CD changer is still wanking away in there...
just at 10mins in, that mechanism looks almost identical to the Clarion (IIRC, might have been Blaupunkt) in car 5-disc changer I've just fixed. That one was a mechanical issue from impact i think. EDIT- 14:10 haha mine was misaligned that way too, thought it was impact damage but perhaps not. Having finished watching, the elevator collet thing was not broken on my unit although it is an identical design expanded to 5 discs. To be honest the collet felt fairly robust on this one too, got the alignment way off a couple of times and ran it into the ends of it's travel, no breakage. The unit in question is from about 2006 so not sure if newer than the Bose. Would it help if i grabbed the model number so maybe you could see if they're a common unit over there/if they maybe support the chassis a little better than Bose?
You know Dave I'm surprised that you haven't had any copyright problems with your video intro, I guess know one knows who focus is. When I first watched one of your videos I subbed because I heard hocus pocus playing.
It is edited in such a way that the content is can't make a match. If you listen to the original you will hear how it us cut. I did the same with BRMC. As long as a clip is under 9 seconds they don't pull a match, and all the riff samples are under 8. Plus there is a voice over. Radio and tv stations been doing this for years.
Dave, You must know a few French words to go along with this one! You probably have the most patience on You Tube! I'm sure from the Factory in Mexico jigs provided quick alignment. Thanks for the tour!
There once was a Bose outlet here in Lower Delaware and they sold loads of these things, I get about three a month. My problems are mainly in the loading mechanism, broken gears. No fun at all. If you still monitor I'd somehow like to talk to you about this mechanism if it's alright.
I service BOSE gear and find that the designs are usually OK to fairly good, but in manufacturing they cheapen up so far as to make their products unreliable. With revisions in a model line, they choose to not correct the problems, but to reduce the parts count instead and will generally cheapen the unit overall until, finally, the lline is abandoned and BOSE goes off in another direction. These three CD changers are typical with fairly impressive design but cheaply made and cheap parts, also no proprietary replacement parts are available except from dead donor units, which donated OEM parts also will fail. Every fix is therefore a temporary fix. No win. Great videos though, and well appreciated. (p.s.: I stopped servicing the 3-CD changers .. a PITA and time consuming.) You know, the factory has an alignment procedure that, if we knew what it was, would make this alignment issue go away in probably three minutes or less. But BOSE loves their customers so much, they don't want you to repair their products so you can enjoy them after spending the ridiculous amounts of money on them ...
OK Sir, excellent work and instruction here. I went from a broken unit that wouldn't move and flashed DISC to one that loads and unloads every slot (5 DISC changer). My final issue is (I hope) is that the disc won't spin (opposite of your disc issue). It's like it's squeezxing it too tight. Is this an alignment issue? any tips on getting it aligned or level? no matter what I do it's always squeezing the disc too tight. Thanks again, I couldn't have made it this far without your vids!!
I've worked on three more of these units since the last time I watched thisvideo and I just had another in the last week. I watchedthis video again for arefresher course. They're still a nightmare no matter how many I do. I don'tknow if I can get this one. No matter how much I charge I never can get what my time is worth.
I have one that says disk error and won't play CD. Sometimes it says no disk when there is one in it. Also, I noticed something rattling inside when I picked up multi CD changer from Bose. I need to get it fixed cause nothing sounds better than a BOSE!
Shame is that something so expensive didn't have a lifetime guarantee. I never bought them. Couldn't afford it, plus I would spend my money on a much larger system. Match Game Ringtone? Oh, btw, was labor cost about $1000?
Damn, friend. That thing must've been hellish to fix. These things really are a nightmare to repair. Especially when you don't have spare parts or a service repair manual. 😖😅
So, I just did one of these for the first time and yes I agree. NEVER again. So the elevator wasn't moving right. I fixed that. However discs don't load now. Have zero idea what's misaligned
With fiddly designs like that, I’d love to know what the factory assembly processes are like. Like what jigs and procedures do they use for original assembly? Cause clearly, they aren’t spending an hour adjusting one gear train.
12voltvids Probably, but even for them, they need to have the jigs and procedures. (Though robots can at least have some of the jigs built right into themselves!)
It would have had jigs certainly, and lots of well trained nimble hands on a conveyer assembly line most likely. The factory was making thousands of the things, and with lots of practice, no doubt they'd do it very quickly.
Most of the factories, even those in Mexico used fully automated assembly. The workers just kept the machines stocked with parts. I saw a promotional video that Sony had way back showing the machine assembling vhs mechanisms. About 10 seconds is all it took to fully assemble all the mechanical parts. Then it rolled out if the line for a worker that installed the drum, next worker the capstan motor and finally the chassis installed into the cabinet that rolled in from another conveyer. Something like this is perfect for automated assembly
12voltvids For sure. What would interest me is knowing how the robot does it. Whether human or robot, there still must exist the procedure and tooling to do it quickly, that’s what I’m curious about!
Ok I would say don't give up Mon Ami......... I would do a few go / no gauges in 64th's of an inch , then from a known working unit like you did 4 years ago on the 1st one , take those measurements and adjust accordingly ........ Just place the gauges on top op the top of plate and slide them under the frame of the outside.... It's hard to type exactly what I am thinking and looking at , but I think you get what I am saying ..... You just lay the gauges all around the top of the plate and adjust the gear wheels accordingly ......
Well wasted more time today. A Toshitba TV. Thought it might be one of the resistors that fail so often in the power supply of these sets, but NOOOOO it is the backlight naturally. Owner said chuck it so I figured, great I will just open the screen and replace the backlight. Bloody thing was bonded to the frame in the top corner, so you can picture the shattering experience when I went to lift the diffuser off and one cornner of the screen stayed behind. Off to recycling it goes.
Oxidized contacts of microswitches can cause many problems,or any other position encoder switch as i see the player mechanism is moving as an elevator so some sensor is needed for this movement also.
Fantastic repair ! What patience you have...I assume you charge for an estimate to fix first ? Then tell your customer the good/bad news...thank you for the video..73
Dave THREE SYMBOL WORD FOR BOSE: SLEDGE-HAM-MER! I worked for the several years installing the Bose pro line series of equipment. This was not the same Bose equipment with different proprietary connectors. Basically still the same pile of junk with a whole new ridiculous price range. Mostly people would buy the pro series and would end up moving then they would take MOST of the equipment . When the new homeowner would try hooking their Joe blow stereo up to it the unit would eventually fail because of impedance mismatch. I'm sure you already know Bose equipment speakers usually only have a impedance of of one ohm. You pretty much we know the end of this story.
You have the patience of a saint and because of that it was an enjoyable video to follow. However, at 38mins I just wanted you to get a sledgehammer and smash the thing into 1000 pieces.
Wow, that's the broken plastic/bent metal special! Like the really bad vhs two motor designs but worse I guess. Timed gears + available high torque + flimsy materials/bad design + cheap contact switches (+/- user error) = a mess. I remember a 1/2 hour infomercial for that thing in the mid 90's and it was pricey. More then $400 USD - maybe more like $600 with the CD player option. I wonder what the profit margin was.
Our 3 disc CD unit went bact to BOSE 2X under warranty for repairs with me paying the shipping. OK, it crapped out again last week after minimal use. This time it's going in the trash. I do NOT understand why a "premium" priced unit doesn't have bass and treble controls. Even the $150 SONY stereo/CD that I had in a now long gone car could have decent controls while this gold plated POS is set on what BOSE thinks we should hear
Hey 12voltvids, I am in the same situation having to fix mine and the worm gear is good except for the black outside part that the worm gear moves up and down has broke apart! What are the chances you may have some available to help me in my repair? Thank you!
I have one that is raising the player housing (laser, motor, etc) to the top then stops and errors out after being powered on. What would cause this? Maybe the slider switch that is connected? Think it is some sort of potentiometer?
If the plastic elevators aren't broken then there are detection switches that get dirty I need to be cleaned. I don't do much on these units these days because there are no parts available. Bose won't even sell you a cable. I had one where someone had misaligned the multi connector plug plugging into the radio unit and broke one of the pins. this is a little part that can be changed in about 5 minutes remove four screws unplug it from the board plug the new one in put four screws back in. Bose told me to go pound sand that I could ship the player in and they would replace it for a cost about half of what the player would be to replace. I told bose where to go. I used to like to promote companies in North America that still manufactured product here and stood behind their product but the way that they stand behind their product now is no parts no support just send us more money and we'll send you a factory refurbished unit.
You say that normally you reject complex repairs like this (as I have done in the past for some computer repairs... iBooks, I’m talking to you!). What makes you decide when to make an exception and do it anyway? For me, it was simply for friends and family. Just curious!
Crap like this is why I prefer old tube radios and TVs; all the parts are “human” scale, rather than “fruit fly” scale. Some of those SMD resistors/capacitors seriously require a 20x mag loupe or microscope just to see them; never mind picking one up with one’s fingers! Sure, tubes get hot, and consume way more power than solid-state circuits, but they’re a lot more robust, electrically. No worry about ESD damage to a 12AX7; big worry about ESD damage to a simple laser diode! For that matter, I wonder how many techs have tried to repair these and put the shunt on, only to reassemble the unit without removing the shunt? 😏
Probably some under-paid employee in a 3rd world shop knows how to set up the gear assembly with secret timing marks that make it easy. I didn't know whether to play the Herman Hermits tune "HENERY the 8TH" or go watch the movie 'GROUNDHOG DAY".......can you say...REPETION ? Thanks Dave, for enduring efforts to make us repair novices alert ! J K
Most electronics falls under: "Unserviceable, parts/diagrams/info NLA, prohibitive labor costs." Back in the '70s, I could fix TV's, stereos, tape decks, and make enough to pay the rent. Now, it goes into the landfill. It's a shame, really what a waste.
Back in the 80s and 90s I made enough to buy a house. It was always a struggle to get the mortgage, and renewal. I remember in 93 I went to the bank to borrow 60k to buy a house. The house obviously cost more than that but I have saved about 50% to put down and the bank would not talk to me. They told me and I quote "we don't feel that you will be employed long enough to pay off a $60,000 mortgage". I went to 3 banks and got the same answer. Finally a mortgage broker was able to get the deal done. I paid them off in 10 years. In 2002 I went back to the bank now with my house is collateral to get approved for a $200,000 to do a renovation. Again the same song and dance I couldn't pass the stress test because they did not feel that I would be employed long enough to pay it off. I had to put all my savings on the line. They were right I wasn't employed in that industry long enough to pay it off I quit the next year and went and got a job at the phone company. That was the day that Banks were falling over themselves to give me cheap money. Want a million here it is. The happiest day of my life came about 5 years ago when my mortgage was coming up for renewal I walked into the bank and handed them a check and said take your mortgage and stuff it up your ass. I agree though there used to be fairly good money in the '80s and '90s I did really well repairing equipment working for a shop that was literally 5 minutes from my house. The downturn started though in around 99 when the flat panel TVs started to first appear. Many people made that transition to high definition TVs and stop repairing their old ones VCRs became a thing of the past and newer devices like DVD recorders just were not repairable. The manufacturers went to a swap out model for defects. The writing was on the wall.
I need help with my BOSE multi disk player. BOSE will not fix it anymore and I have resources to know where to get it fixed. All the cd slots will take in and put out the cds, but it won't play. No error message shows for any slot. Can someone help.
I could imagine what Shango 066 Would have done with that one, would been an EOL video comming out of that, all that time in fixing and adjusting and still not purfect although it plays but any thing refurbished one would know to avoid, usually means its had too many problems from the beginning,same as cell phones and other cheap products complicated small circuits one would be needing a maginifying glass to even see whats on the boards let alone try service work, why smaller stuff gets harder it is to fix, ends up in Landfills or if its able to be recycled instead. this why we became known as the throw Away Society all due to companies making their products unfixable, sure these may sound good and look nice but actually too complicated to service and over priced.
@@12voltvids I sure can see why. As its just not like it was decades ago when companies took pride in their products and stuff used to be easier to fix or maintain.,though here i have better luck with RCA products.
Just found you because I am working on one and hit a wall. Has anyone told you that you sound exactly like Gene Hackman? Anywho, thanks for the vid and the knowledge, sir!
Once i had for repair a car 5 disc changer BOSE original from BMW, it was the size of the PC CD-ROM and had broken gears and was marmalade inside, since then i don't want to see any of theese never again! Those are made complicated on purpose - "Revenge to the service technicians" :D
So I can send you a bose changer for repair right just kidding. I have a jvc 6 disc cd changer from the 90s hasnt failed yet. Did they still make nice equipment in the 1990s it says made in Japan on back.
The other problem was they incorporated a thermal fuse in the primary transformer that would open; I was able to fix the problem by peeling back the insulation to expose the fuse and repair the delicate wiring. Then I added a fuse separate from the transformer in the primary section to protect the power transformer, "what pain in the ass", for something this pricy.
@@12voltvids The thermal cutout was required by regulators because users do not understand fuse ratings. The unit might require a 2 ampere fuse and the user might find an old automotive 20 ampere fuse and use it. if there was a short in the power supply smoke would emerge from the transformer overheating.
You have to refuse them dave, the stress is no good for you. It reminds me of some old c.d changers for cars, great when new but horrible when worn :-(.
..... you stole my thunder. I spent years, and continue trying to explain to clients about economic viability. any device can be repaired, but these aren't family heirlooms FFS. Even when the manufacturer did repair this they would likely substitute the entire mechanism. Tell the client to move on to 2020 FFS !
I purchased a Bose Wave Music System II. I will never get the cd changer just because I don't play cd's hardly ever and they look like they're junk anyway.
These days CDs are falling out of favour for streaming. I have been using my arylic streaming preamps power amps more and more. I can play content from my network, from a usb stick or from my phone plus stream from many streaming services. The only one I use is tune in. Everything controlled from my phone. They work just like sonos systems but a fraction of the price and no forced upgrade like sonos does when the unit becomes a few years old.
Bose... I see why most hardcore audiophiles make fun it. Never have had Bose product other some strange 2ohm, hmm, hmm, a 'car subwoofer' with inverted motor and D-class chip amp - very cheap design. Oh, I just hate the damn cheap plastic parts that break - JB Weld Original my best friend. Seriously other than say, WD-40, JB Weld is one of the products that should get the most useful Product Award - valve covers, Alu oil pans, little plastic pieces, gas tanks, intercoolers, and who knows what else was fixed using it. Don't loose your patience.... It's not quite a service friendly product. I would like you to smash something one day. Yes 7hrs on the clock. Every time someone tells me 'I saw the guy do it on RUclips in half an hour', I roll my eyes, really he did in half an hour, why don't you DIY then.
I did lot of stuff as hobby as servicing or cleaning Sony car stereos with auto cassest loading mechanism ...timming gear by realigning with given marks on gears ...akal...pioneer...all sorts i used to have in past..this kind of mechanism sucks...it reminds me a part from national j11 vcr a plastic part which breaks freq..making ejecting mechanism alignment out.....very frustrating pain in the ass ...multiple tries makes u nuts
People like me who still enjoy playing their music on physical media. My 9 year old iPod has been sitting in a box for the last 3-4 years. I'd rather play my records, tapes and CDs.
@@12voltvids I have worked on items that were old and the plastic became brittle and out of there original shape. They were not to be long lasting items. (just cheep production) Don't waste time on plastic components. They don't stand the test of time.
As you say (allegedly) Bose, Apple, Pure Radios, John Deer and many other manufacturers purport to be environment friendly.
However, they are major contributors to e-waste because they refuse to provide schematics, parts and expect you to throw away a perfectly good electrical Items once it's out of warranty and buy a new one.
Best thing for us to do is to not buy their products in the first place and support the "right to repair" our own electronics bill in our state's.
The above companies currently spend millions on lobbying state representatives to oppose bill's that wouldl force companies to supply parts and schematics for their products.
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This is true, but when there were laws in place that forced companies to stock repair parts the cost of products was much higher. I remember when a 20" trinitron sold for 1000.00. I have a plasma in my shop that sold for over 10,000.00. By not having to have expensive parts stocked and have to pay repair technicians companies can use their money to develop new products and offer them at a much lower cost than they would if they had to support them after the warranty is done. I am all for the right to service but not if it is going to drive the prices back to what they used to cost.
Very good point, the price of electronics and goods come down, no more manuals, support or parts. Yes I remember my 900 Trinitron TV. This is why techs are put out of the market, we work for free now. I get my entertainment watching you do all the work as I sit here waiting for customers now.
@@12voltvids Agreed, However, so many parts are made by third parties these days, huge corps put these companies under license to prevent them selling spares for out of warranty kit.
$1700 laptop, Apple have chosen to stop supporting it e.g. they refuse to repair it. The part required is code locked by Apple.
When you contact the company in China who manufacture the chip they say they would be more than happy to sell me the part but Apple have instructructed them not to sell it to anyone but them.
The $1,700 computer is now e-waste for the sake of being able to buy a $0.60 chip from a third party supplier.
This is not environmentally friendly, even though Apple purport to be so.
I was insulted by their offer of $50 off a new $1,900 laptop when the part to repair the existing machine cost $0.60.
I've advised my colleague to buy from another company and steer clear of the Apple (all) products,after all most are made in China and not the USA.
I'm no tree hugger but I do believe in not polluting the plannet and leaving our kids to clear it up.
@@markanderson350 please read my reply to 12 volt vids, thanks
@@isoguy. Apple and many others do the same. Look for example at Sonos. You know, those ridiculously expensive speakers. They not only stopped supporting the older equipment, but last March 31st (no it wasn't an April fools joke either) they permanently bricked their older stand alone controller systems. I know someone that did love it, and they bricked it, sending him a coupon for 100 off a new 1000 system. He said it was a slap in the face but like the sheep he bought another system. Said he couldn't live without it. Apple sheep do the same.
What was the excuse to brick a perfectly good system. According to Sonos, the batteries were reaching the end of their life and they were concerned that people would follow internet advice and change the batteries themself, which could result in a fire hazard, for which the company could be held liable for. So in other words, blame the lawyers and courts. They want to eliminate the liability by just decommissioning the device. I am waiting for a company like Tesla to start pulling that crap. Your car battery is too old, and we feel due to it's age it may be a fire hazard, therefore you need to bring the car back and buy a new one before we disable it with an over air update which will render it useless.
Sonos BTW is at it again. All pre 2015 speakers and devices will no longer receive updates. This means they won't get any new streaming services. On top of that, all newer devices linked to the account will also no longer get any updates until all the older devices are removed and deactivated. Once they are removed they can no longer be reactivated. Oh, and there is another coupon to spend more money on newer Sonos crap again. No thanks.
I have fixed a hundred of these changers within the three last years. So maybe I can help a litte.
The adjustment of the elevator is very simple: When you are remounting the changer after replacing the black plastic thing, first screw in the three black threaded rods all the way in until they can no longer be turned. Then insert the CD elevator into the chassis. The elevator will be then already adjusted, no further corrections required.
Concerning the BPC (Black Plastic Crab): The one which is normally broken is the one on the right side. The part obviously has to withstand the highest load. I think it would make sense to take an intact part from one of the other corners and put it in the right corner, and then put the glued part in the free left corner where it has less to endure.
Concerning the micro switches: Those who recognize whether a CD has been inserted (seen from above: top left) or those who recognize whether a CD has been drawn into the drawer (seen from above: bottom right) also cause problems from time to time and should therefore also getting cleaned.
The height adjustment on your device also has problems, it has a hard time finding the middle position. There is another part (potentiometer? rotary switch?) below the roller in the lower right corner that can also be cleaned. However, you have to disassemble a lot, which is a bit fiddly to reassamble. In any case, unhook the springs at the front right before you start screwing.
Please excuse my possibly poor English. I'm from Germany.
I'm going to have to try this tomorrow on the one in my shop. Thanks for this!
@@jamesstaton9013 Did you manage to repair? If you need more hints, tell me.
My changer won't power up. Any thoughts?
Won't power up means: no mechanical noises, no lights? First check the transformer, if you have voltage on the primary side, then on the secondary side. If you have: I had some changers which had been completely "dead" (no reaction even with correct transformer), but still I have no idea why.
Beautifully stated. I would have never known that English was your secondary language.
I remember seeing many glossy magazines ads for Bose Waveradio in early 2000s, and it was always stupidly expensive for what it is. Like BOSE, Buy Overpriced Sound Equipment
Michael Turner Audio files won't touch anything Bose including myself.
Bose=Apple for audio files, I see...
@@russredfern167 Audiophiles don't either .
Some Bose stuff is okay and I do have some Bose speakers (a pair of Bose 161 for my Sony PVM, a pair of Bose MediaMate for my desktop computer, a pair of Bose Companion 2). But, I buy them used and only if the price is right (the 161 pair I got for about $20, the MediaMate was about $20 used, and the Companion 2 was $10). I'll never buy new Bose equipment because, IMO, they're not worth what they sell at retail. If I can buy new Bose speakers, I'd rather buy Polk Audio, Klipsch, or JBL ... or save up a little more and get B&W, Definitive Technology, or Revel.
As for their wave radio systems, I'd rather have an old school shelf system by a Japanese company like Aiwa, Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood, Yamaha, and so on. Those were at least cool and they're usually cheap while being decent sounding.
You are very patient . I think I would have dropped kicked it into next year lol. Give me good old 70s & 80s electronics any day.
Glen Walker It would have made a good end of the line video.
It's the urge to get something fixed. I've worked overtime a couple of hours yesterday (for me Friday) to get something to work. I'm a programmer who needs to do customizations in a product a customer bought as a service. And the design of it is the worst I've seen so far.
Patience is the name of the game, when comes to the electronic repair profession. Because there complex devices that will test your patience to no end.
how true that is
I work the local post office and remember a guy sending his bose unit back and forth for months. Also, after 2 hours of this I would have gave it the ol gas and lighter fix lol. Good work and keep it up. Love the vids
i heard so many commercials for them on the radio bragging that radio up. they made it sound amazing but it was stupidly expensive. you'd think for that price they'd still offer support or at least not cheap out on plastic parts
"No highs, no lows..must be Bose". Had a Bose cash job with a 6-disc cartridge player. I found that it was a Clarion mech, and rather than have a tech spend hours on the unit, he gave the customer the estimate to replace the $94 mech. When we got the part, it was marked up to over $550! No, I was not going to allow that, so I called the Loss Prevention line since I viewed that markup (beyond what the actual marked up price was supposed to be) as attempted THEFT by the vendor. Turned out that our company had already been defrauded out of 41 million USD in part overcharges across the entire range of consumer electronics, especially computer parts. What I saw was just the tip of the iceberg. People from inside and outside the company went to prison, and rightly so. In addition to revealing the fraud, yes....we got the price corrected and "repaired" the customer unit without issue. Amazing how quickly the price was corrected when we objected....
That must've rocked the very core of that company when all that was found out
@@rawr51919 It did. They basically eliminated service (to a large extent) and we were all "promoted to customer" from 2008-2010. It worked out; I now work for an electric utility and believe it will be (at least) a few weeks before people stop using electricity..
An excellent resource, I've been working on one of these with the same issue. Repaired the elevator fixture now comes the patience part, getting it all to line up. Thank you.
Lots of helpful info here for someone working on their first one. There is no way I would have know about the solder blob! Thanks for sharing the headaches as well as the victories!
Bose sounds amazing to me but their electronics are junk. I have the waveguide assembly from a dead Bose wave radio CD player. The board has 40 smd capacitors and I've heard they are all bad. Tried to change some but damaged the traces. Binned it but kept a few parts. I have the waveguide/speaker assembly hooked to an old car radio and it sounds just as good.
Just wanted to say that I really like and appreciate your videos from here in England.
Your videos are great! Never cared much for Bose.... Way way way way overpriced. And I could never see the point of the price point...
Their speakers are great. That's about it.
Crazy shit, I am a repairman myself and for hobby I repair vintage electronics. I know I could repair that too but it is not my hobby anymore F*** that. Let that be some one elses hobby, I stick to tube radio's they can be a pain in the butt to sometimes but it is pretty straightforward most of the time.
Thanks for the video, I admire your perseverance.
Somewhere between a nightmare and a bad dream repairing that thing. _No replacement parts available._ *You fix it anyhow!*
Maybe the entire mechanical assembly could be replaced with a USB socket and wave/mp3 player interfaced through an Arduino Sketch that tricks the Bose into thinking its OEM CD changer is still wanking away in there...
just at 10mins in, that mechanism looks almost identical to the Clarion (IIRC, might have been Blaupunkt) in car 5-disc changer I've just fixed. That one was a mechanical issue from impact i think. EDIT- 14:10 haha mine was misaligned that way too, thought it was impact damage but perhaps not.
Having finished watching, the elevator collet thing was not broken on my unit although it is an identical design expanded to 5 discs. To be honest the collet felt fairly robust on this one too, got the alignment way off a couple of times and ran it into the ends of it's travel, no breakage. The unit in question is from about 2006 so not sure if newer than the Bose. Would it help if i grabbed the model number so maybe you could see if they're a common unit over there/if they maybe support the chassis a little better than Bose?
I think that's a bit older than the Bose. Was around 2007 when these came out
@@rawr51919 Ah, might explain the Bose being more fragile then. Things seem to get cheaper and less durable as the "value engineering" progresses.
you have to have rocks in your head to spend 500 bucks on one of these
I thought the 1/2 hour adds were ridiculous. But they worked that magic pseudo high-class "everyone with a nice new house is getting one of these" PR.
You know Dave I'm surprised that you haven't had any copyright problems with your video intro, I guess know one knows who focus is. When I first watched one of your videos I subbed because I heard hocus pocus playing.
It is edited in such a way that the content is can't make a match. If you listen to the original you will hear how it us cut. I did the same with BRMC. As long as a clip is under 9 seconds they don't pull a match, and all the riff samples are under 8. Plus there is a voice over. Radio and tv stations been doing this for years.
know one knows?
Great videos. I learn a lot. I still can't fix anything, yet I enjoy trying. Thanks for your time and expertise.
Great video I just got one of these given to me. Broken cd changer. Decided one cd player is enough.
Dave, You must know a few French words to go along with this one! You probably have the most patience on You Tube!
I'm sure from the Factory in Mexico jigs provided quick alignment. Thanks for the tour!
I once said "excuse my french" and was ripped a new one from a Frenchman.
There once was a Bose outlet here in Lower Delaware and they sold loads of these things, I get about three a month. My problems are mainly in the loading mechanism, broken gears. No fun at all. If you still monitor I'd somehow like to talk to you about this mechanism if it's alright.
I hate these mechanisms with a passion.
I service BOSE gear and find that the designs are usually OK to fairly good, but in manufacturing they cheapen up so far as to make their products unreliable. With revisions in a model line, they choose to not correct the problems, but to reduce the parts count instead and will generally cheapen the unit overall until, finally, the lline is abandoned and BOSE goes off in another direction. These three CD changers are typical with fairly impressive design but cheaply made and cheap parts, also no proprietary replacement parts are available except from dead donor units, which donated OEM parts also will fail. Every fix is therefore a temporary fix. No win. Great videos though, and well appreciated. (p.s.: I stopped servicing the 3-CD changers .. a PITA and time consuming.) You know, the factory has an alignment procedure that, if we knew what it was, would make this alignment issue go away in probably three minutes or less. But BOSE loves their customers so much, they don't want you to repair their products so you can enjoy them after spending the ridiculous amounts of money on them ...
OK Sir, excellent work and instruction here. I went from a broken unit that wouldn't move and flashed DISC to one that loads and unloads every slot (5 DISC changer). My final issue is (I hope) is that the disc won't spin (opposite of your disc issue). It's like it's squeezxing it too tight. Is this an alignment issue? any tips on getting it aligned or level? no matter what I do it's always squeezing the disc too tight. Thanks again, I couldn't have made it this far without your vids!!
I've worked on three more of these units since the last time I watched thisvideo and I just had another in the last week. I watchedthis video again for arefresher course. They're still a nightmare no matter how many I do. I don'tknow if I can get this one. No matter how much I charge I never can get what my time is worth.
That's why i don't work on them anymore.
I have one that says disk error and won't play CD. Sometimes it says no disk when there is one in it. Also, I noticed something rattling inside when I picked up multi CD changer from Bose. I need to get it fixed cause nothing sounds better than a BOSE!
Shame is that something so expensive didn't have a lifetime guarantee. I never bought them. Couldn't afford it, plus I would spend my money on a much larger system. Match Game Ringtone?
Oh, btw, was labor cost about $1000?
Dave I would have a few choice words for that PITA unit.
Damn, friend. That thing must've been hellish to fix. These things really are a nightmare to repair. Especially when you don't have spare parts or a service repair manual. 😖😅
That's the tough part. No service manual or parts. It makes it easy to say no when someone wants something fixed.
@@12voltvids Too right, mate, too right.
Amazing - the amount of patience - teaches us something about persistence!! Thank you for the video.
So, I just did one of these for the first time and yes I agree. NEVER again. So the elevator wasn't moving right. I fixed that. However discs don't load now. Have zero idea what's misaligned
OMG What a nightmare. I would never own one of these things.
With fiddly designs like that, I’d love to know what the factory assembly processes are like. Like what jigs and procedures do they use for original assembly? Cause clearly, they aren’t spending an hour adjusting one gear train.
Built by robots
12voltvids Probably, but even for them, they need to have the jigs and procedures. (Though robots can at least have some of the jigs built right into themselves!)
It would have had jigs certainly, and lots of well trained nimble hands on a conveyer assembly line most likely. The factory was making thousands of the things, and with lots of practice, no doubt they'd do it very quickly.
Most of the factories, even those in Mexico used fully automated assembly. The workers just kept the machines stocked with parts. I saw a promotional video that Sony had way back showing the machine assembling vhs mechanisms. About 10 seconds is all it took to fully assemble all the mechanical parts. Then it rolled out if the line for a worker that installed the drum, next worker the capstan motor and finally the chassis installed into the cabinet that rolled in from another conveyer. Something like this is perfect for automated assembly
12voltvids For sure. What would interest me is knowing how the robot does it. Whether human or robot, there still must exist the procedure and tooling to do it quickly, that’s what I’m curious about!
Wow, they really engineered that thing to not be taken apart & fixed.....What a piece!
Your bill is $530 please! Lol
Ok I would say don't give up Mon Ami......... I would do a few go / no gauges in 64th's of an inch , then from a known working unit like you did 4 years ago on the 1st one , take those measurements and adjust accordingly ........ Just place the gauges on top op the top of plate and slide them under the frame of the outside.... It's hard to type exactly what I am thinking and looking at , but I think you get what I am saying ..... You just lay the gauges all around the top of the plate and adjust the gear wheels accordingly ......
God bless your patience !
That BOSE could be considered the "Crosley Cruiser" of CD decks by today's design standards.
...... Your time has more value Dave.
Well wasted more time today. A Toshitba TV. Thought it might be one of the resistors that fail so often in the power supply of these sets, but NOOOOO it is the backlight naturally.
Owner said chuck it so I figured, great I will just open the screen and replace the backlight.
Bloody thing was bonded to the frame in the top corner, so you can picture the shattering experience when I went to lift the diffuser off and one cornner of the screen stayed behind.
Off to recycling it goes.
Thank you for making this excellent video. It is helping me to fix my elderly neighbor's bose player
Oxidized contacts of microswitches can cause many problems,or any other position encoder switch as i see the player mechanism is moving as an elevator so some sensor is needed for this movement also.
Yes there is a variable resistor on the mechanism right next to that plastic part that broke.
If you have a dead flat surface,couldn't you have put a Toledo level on it to level it before assembly.?Looks like you've got her licked.👍📺📻
Fantastic repair ! What patience you have...I assume you charge for an estimate to fix first ? Then tell your customer the good/bad news...thank you for the video..73
No. I should charge an estimate fee but I dont.
@@12voltvids Wow.....
Dave THREE SYMBOL WORD FOR BOSE: SLEDGE-HAM-MER! I worked for the several years installing the Bose pro line series of
equipment. This was not the same Bose equipment with different
proprietary connectors. Basically still the same pile of junk with a
whole new ridiculous price range. Mostly people would buy the pro series
and would end up moving then they would take MOST of the equipment .
When the new homeowner would try hooking their Joe blow stereo up to it
the unit would eventually fail because of impedance mismatch. I'm sure
you already know Bose equipment speakers usually only have a impedance
of of one ohm. You pretty much we know the end of this story.
You have the patience of a saint and because of that it was an enjoyable video to follow. However, at 38mins I just wanted you to get a sledgehammer and smash the thing into 1000 pieces.
So...what would be more fun, disassembling those changer guts or having a root canal? :D
At least the root canal eventually ends...
I would never have the patience to do this repair. What a Bear!
I won't be doing another one
Great company with name and making expensive products on this level? Please answer me: It was or continuous the same? Best regards from BRAZIL
Wow, that's the broken plastic/bent metal special! Like the really bad vhs two motor designs but worse I guess. Timed gears + available high torque + flimsy materials/bad design + cheap contact switches (+/- user error) = a mess. I remember a 1/2 hour infomercial for that thing in the mid 90's and it was pricey. More then $400 USD - maybe more like $600 with the CD player option. I wonder what the profit margin was.
Hello do you know what could be the problem with a cd changer when it continuously makes the startup noise?
I will definitely pass on repairing that. I've rarely fixed any bose stuff. I mostly did vintage stereo equipment.
Our 3 disc CD unit went bact to BOSE 2X under warranty for repairs with me paying the shipping. OK, it crapped out again last week after minimal use. This time it's going in the trash. I do NOT understand why a "premium" priced unit doesn't have bass and treble controls. Even the $150 SONY stereo/CD that I had in a now long gone car could have decent controls while this gold plated POS is set on what BOSE thinks we should hear
" That would be the phone " playing The Match Game intro :) Dam one has to be an Electrical Engineer and Mechanical Engineer to work on these.
Hey 12voltvids, I am in the same situation having to fix mine and the worm gear is good except for the black outside part that the worm gear moves up and down has broke apart! What are the chances you may have some available to help me in my repair? Thank you!
Sorry no parts.
I'm reminded of that old saying. "No highs. No lows. Must be Bose."
I have a bose system in my car. It sounds grrrrrreat
I have one that is raising the player housing (laser, motor, etc) to the top then stops and errors out after being powered on. What would cause this? Maybe the slider switch that is connected? Think it is some sort of potentiometer?
If the plastic elevators aren't broken then there are detection switches that get dirty I need to be cleaned. I don't do much on these units these days because there are no parts available. Bose won't even sell you a cable. I had one where someone had misaligned the multi connector plug plugging into the radio unit and broke one of the pins. this is a little part that can be changed in about 5 minutes remove four screws unplug it from the board plug the new one in put four screws back in. Bose told me to go pound sand that I could ship the player in and they would replace it for a cost about half of what the player would be to replace. I told bose where to go. I used to like to promote companies in North America that still manufactured product here and stood behind their product but the way that they stand behind their product now is no parts no support just send us more money and we'll send you a factory refurbished unit.
Boy oh boy. I just wonder why there has to be so many moving parts. It's like working a watch's layers and layers of parts to fit together.
Over engerneering at its finest. I think my 200 disk cd changers have fewer moving parts.
You say that normally you reject complex repairs like this (as I have done in the past for some computer repairs... iBooks, I’m talking to you!). What makes you decide when to make an exception and do it anyway? For me, it was simply for friends and family. Just curious!
Sounded like a simple one when it came in...... but I soon discovered it was much worse. The owner threw some cash at it ,and I took it on.
12voltvids Gotcha, thanks! :)
Crap like this is why I prefer old tube radios and TVs; all the parts are “human” scale, rather than “fruit fly” scale. Some of those SMD resistors/capacitors seriously require a 20x mag loupe or microscope just to see them; never mind picking one up with one’s fingers! Sure, tubes get hot, and consume way more power than solid-state circuits, but they’re a lot more robust, electrically. No worry about ESD damage to a 12AX7; big worry about ESD damage to a simple laser diode!
For that matter, I wonder how many techs have tried to repair these and put the shunt on, only to reassemble the unit without removing the shunt? 😏
Probably some under-paid employee in a 3rd world shop knows how to set up the gear assembly with secret timing marks that make it easy. I didn't know whether to play the Herman Hermits tune "HENERY the 8TH" or go watch the movie 'GROUNDHOG DAY".......can you say...REPETION ? Thanks Dave, for enduring efforts to make us repair novices alert ! J K
Most electronics falls under: "Unserviceable, parts/diagrams/info NLA, prohibitive labor costs." Back in the '70s, I could fix TV's, stereos, tape decks, and make enough to pay the rent. Now, it goes into the landfill. It's a shame, really what a waste.
Back in the 80s and 90s I made enough to buy a house. It was always a struggle to get the mortgage, and renewal. I remember in 93 I went to the bank to borrow 60k to buy a house. The house obviously cost more than that but I have saved about 50% to put down and the bank would not talk to me. They told me and I quote "we don't feel that you will be employed long enough to pay off a $60,000 mortgage". I went to 3 banks and got the same answer. Finally a mortgage broker was able to get the deal done. I paid them off in 10 years. In 2002 I went back to the bank now with my house is collateral to get approved for a $200,000 to do a renovation. Again the same song and dance I couldn't pass the stress test because they did not feel that I would be employed long enough to pay it off. I had to put all my savings on the line. They were right I wasn't employed in that industry long enough to pay it off I quit the next year and went and got a job at the phone company. That was the day that Banks were falling over themselves to give me cheap money. Want a million here it is. The happiest day of my life came about 5 years ago when my mortgage was coming up for renewal I walked into the bank and handed them a check and said take your mortgage and stuff it up your ass. I agree though there used to be fairly good money in the '80s and '90s I did really well repairing equipment working for a shop that was literally 5 minutes from my house. The downturn started though in around 99 when the flat panel TVs started to first appear. Many people made that transition to high definition TVs and stop repairing their old ones VCRs became a thing of the past and newer devices like DVD recorders just were not repairable. The manufacturers went to a swap out model for defects. The writing was on the wall.
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@ 13:05 I thought: This thing is absolutely clueless what it is doing 😂
In one of my recent video I literally throw a Sony out of the balcony, i had more fun than trying to fix it.
Labour not withstanding, with the proliferation of 3D printers, would it be viable to reproduce said parts by such means?
I don't have a 3d printer nor do i plan to get one. In my experience however 3d printed parts I have tried have not held up in the long run.
@@12voltvids That's a darn shame. I cN understand not wanting to get one too, bit of a faff, and takes up a lot of space.
I would like to see the steps that go into engineering something like that.
I feel your pain brother, I'm still trying to fix a customers, the carriage just keeps going up and down, cant see anything broken. Norton Repair Shop
Which JB weld did you use?
I need help with my BOSE multi disk player. BOSE will not fix it anymore and I have resources to know where to get it fixed. All the cd slots will take in and put out the cds, but it won't play. No error message shows for any slot. Can someone help.
My Nose multi changer will jam the CDs and will not reject at all. Can this be repaired?
If you need to see it first provide me an address. Thanks.
Nose?
My Bose multi 3 CD player would jam the CD in the system. Is it expensive to fix?
Depends on what the problem is.
Can you repair it.
I could imagine what Shango 066 Would have done with that one, would been an EOL video comming out of that, all that time in fixing and adjusting and still not purfect although it plays but any thing refurbished one would know to avoid, usually means its had too many problems from the beginning,same as cell phones and other cheap products complicated small circuits one would be needing a maginifying glass to even see whats on the boards let alone try service work, why smaller stuff gets harder it is to fix, ends up in Landfills or if its able to be recycled instead. this why we became known as the throw Away Society all due to companies making their products unfixable, sure these may sound good and look nice but actually too complicated to service and over priced.
Yup too complicated to repair much of this stuff. Why do you think we all left the business.
@@12voltvids I sure can see why. As its just not like it was decades ago when companies took pride in their products and stuff used to be easier to fix or maintain.,though here i have better luck with RCA products.
Just found you because I am working on one and hit a wall. Has anyone told you that you sound exactly like Gene Hackman? Anywho, thanks for the vid and the knowledge, sir!
I don't use CD player for many years!
Once i had for repair a car 5 disc changer BOSE original from BMW, it was the size of the PC CD-ROM and had broken gears and was marmalade inside, since then i don't want to see any of theese never again! Those are made complicated on purpose - "Revenge to the service technicians" :D
Bose, SO terribly expensive, and SUCH terrible quality! Cheap materials, a sea of cables, and almost a make-use-throw away product!
Im not doing this...wondering where i can dispose...it refuses to give up disks.
I'm done with them too.
So I can send you a bose changer for repair right just kidding. I have a jvc 6 disc cd changer from the 90s hasnt failed yet. Did they still make nice equipment in the 1990s it says made in Japan on back.
This one had me frustrated
How did they ever get it to work in the first place?, I say shit can it.
If you have a 3D printer available to you that would be a very easy part to make
I don't and even if i did it would not be easy without the cad file.
The other problem was they incorporated a thermal fuse in the primary transformer that would open; I was able to fix the problem by peeling back the insulation to expose the fuse and repair the delicate wiring. Then I added a fuse separate from the transformer in the primary section to protect the power transformer, "what pain in the ass", for something this pricy.
Most transformers have a thermal cutout for safety.
@@12voltvids Yes! a cheap way of making the consumer replace their crap Bose.
@@12voltvids
The thermal cutout was required by regulators because users do not understand fuse ratings. The unit might require a 2 ampere fuse and the user might find an old automotive 20 ampere fuse and use it. if there was a short in the power supply smoke would emerge from the transformer overheating.
"Hello BOSE changer my old friend..."
You have to refuse them dave, the stress is no good for you.
It reminds me of some old c.d changers for cars, great when new but horrible when worn :-(.
..... you stole my thunder. I spent years, and continue trying to explain to clients about economic viability.
any device can be repaired, but these aren't family heirlooms FFS. Even when the manufacturer did repair this they would likely substitute the entire mechanism. Tell the client to move on to 2020 FFS !
I don't get stressed. I walk away from many pieces of shyt that is out there today.
This is one of those devices where you want to find the name and home address of the engineer that was responsible...
Bose-crap company
no highs no lows it must be a bose
I purchased a Bose Wave Music System II. I will never get the cd changer just because I don't play cd's hardly ever and they look like they're junk anyway.
I don't play CDs much but i still wish i had one in my car.
These days CDs are falling out of favour for streaming. I have been using my arylic streaming preamps power amps more and more. I can play content from my network, from a usb stick or from my phone plus stream from many streaming services. The only one I use is tune in. Everything controlled from my phone. They work just like sonos systems but a fraction of the price and no forced upgrade like sonos does when the unit becomes a few years old.
Bose... I see why most hardcore audiophiles make fun it. Never have had Bose product other some strange 2ohm, hmm, hmm, a 'car subwoofer' with inverted motor and D-class chip amp - very cheap design.
Oh, I just hate the damn cheap plastic parts that break - JB Weld Original my best friend. Seriously other than say, WD-40, JB Weld is one of the products that should get the most useful Product Award - valve covers, Alu oil pans, little plastic pieces, gas tanks, intercoolers, and who knows what else was fixed using it.
Don't loose your patience.... It's not quite a service friendly product. I would like you to smash something one day. Yes 7hrs on the clock. Every time someone tells me 'I saw the guy do it on RUclips in half an hour', I roll my eyes, really he did in half an hour, why don't you DIY then.
Sorry for the typo. Bose is the system.
I did lot of stuff as hobby as servicing or cleaning Sony car stereos with auto cassest loading mechanism ...timming gear by realigning with given marks on gears ...akal...pioneer...all sorts i used to have in past..this kind of mechanism sucks...it reminds me a part from national j11 vcr a plastic part which breaks freq..making ejecting mechanism alignment out.....very frustrating pain in the ass ...multiple tries makes u nuts
Let the tape rolling begin
Bose... the APPLE of audio equipment......... make the service technicians hate the world.
A 90's CD changer is so out dated I'm surprised you have the patience to attempt his! I mean who uses a CD changer these days?
People like me who still enjoy playing their music on physical media. My 9 year old iPod has been sitting in a box for the last 3-4 years. I'd rather play my records, tapes and CDs.
Very useful video thanks bro.
What's the cost on getting ok ne of these repaired? I have one that is definitely out of alignment.
Ge imagine that , they no longer support those units, 🤔 HMMM I wonder why!.
That title is great 😂
put on peter gable sledgehammer cd and use it on that
I hate these things, I repaired one then spent 7 hours on another one before giving up and trashing it 😭
I hear you. Never again
You don't stand a chance of these units or any units with so many plastic parts. The material changes it's property after time and temperature.
I have given up. The few I have fixed took so much time. No money in them. Too much plastic.
@@12voltvids I have worked on items that were old and the plastic became brittle and out of there original shape. They were not to be long lasting items. (just cheep production) Don't waste time on plastic components. They don't stand the test of time.
Don’t get me wrong I like my Wave radios. I have 3 but this thing here is garbage. I guess what do you expected from made in Mexico.
Is it worth fixing?🤔
Its a "Bose", like an apple iPhone