Quarter-Life Crises (with Peter Hamby) | The Focus Group Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Democrats need young voters on-side to win in 2024...so how is Gen-Z feeling about the future of the country, and their leaders? What do young progressives and conservatives think about each other? Peter Hamby of Puck News joins Sarah to check in with a cross-section of young voters.
Show Notes:
Peter Hamby: Biden's Youth Serum Shortage (puck.news/bide...)
Biden, Gen-Z, and the Illiberal Left (puck.news/bide...)
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I think it's hopeful that the young people in your focus group understand how important local and state elections are. That's a positive in my book.
Hear, hear! Like every generation before them at their age, they are dealing with major issues. My childhood, and time as a young adult, was spent being very scared and worried about nuclear annihilation. GenZ in general are not prepared to solve such huge issues. They are simply not mature or patient enough to tackle them yet. But there is an urgent need for them to run for as many local offices as they possibly can.
@Classical741 a changing of the guard is the key to getting back to our feet as a nation. ✌️
Gen Z has been voting their asses off in Wisconsin thank you very much.
One of my lowest and then recovered grades in college story: a conservative prof in a field outside my major of anthropology failed my first anthropologically informed paper. I asked why, as it was well written. Simple. He was not teaching me anthropology. “Young lady, don’t give me your opinions or work from other courses. I am teaching you ___ and I expect you to demonstrate to me that you are learning what I am teaching you”.
It was a huge lesson. As my catalogue required I took all kinds of different courses. It was my job to learn from each and to formulate myself based upon ALL of them combined. Did. Problem solved.
One of my uncles told me exactly that. If the teacher/ prof wants green apples give them green apples. It worked for me.
I grew up in Missouri in the 70s-90s and as a "liberal" I self-censored myself all the time. Topics I still absolutely DO NOT discuss when I visit the midwest are my vegetarianism, my atheism, my pacifism, my views on the environment, etc. In the late 90s I made the mistake of taking the contrarian view at work that Clinton lying about his infidelity was not an impeachable offense and... well lets say I dont discuss politics at work unless somebody else brings it up and I agree with them. So it's kinda ironic hearing these young "conservatives" crying about having to self-censor.
I'm 62, and my political life followed the same. Conservatives wouldn't talk, they'd just shut down and never return,hating that someone lived a similar life, yet held different views. Atheism was the honest way to live, for them it was devil worship. Oy.
I tell this generation to get ready, because the next one will blame them for Traitor Trump, and they won't believe otherwise.
Agreed. Cry me a river, Bush-voting Millennials. It's their fault climate change is out of control. We were screaming about the Geenhouse Effect in the *80s*. I'll bet they only accept cisgendered, allosexual gay people as queer, too.
Republicans today certainly do not worry about self censorship. They are the ones always throwing their vile views in your face at work or in any other setting. Such goddamn snowflakes. If they are self censoring, I’d hate to know what they’d say “while uncensored.”
I would love for Sarah to give a talk on how she finds her focus groups.
If people are apathetic, they need to be vividly reminded of the history and consequences of the allure of fascism.
Correct. Try to convince more people to learn about fascism.
Been waiting all day! So glad to see another Focus Group Podcast! I’m a super fan!!😂
You're the Focus Group groupies! I'm from the start ... sort of.
We need mandatory background checks for guns
Except for criminals buying guns illegally. Helpful idea buddy.
@@James-hd4ms sure because doing nothing has been working do well 🤦🏻♀️
Thanks for explaining the viewpoints of young voters. It actually makes me feel more optimistic for both party affiliates.
Those who are sensitive share the sentiments of the 'youth voters.' That is the nature of 'America's Mental Health crisis,' -- and the fact that domestic right wing terrorism still runs unchecked.
That young woman that said it changed her opinion of people, it wasn’t JUST that they supported Israel; it was that the people she was talking about were talking as if the Israelis were the ONLY ones who were victims. That was very nuanced.
Fellow older Millennial here ('81). When you were talking about bad things happening, I was struck by the differences in our experiences: it was in the air that my dad might have to deploy to Kuwait, and I remember one night when he was working and my brother was at who knows what. My mom was insisting we had to put on the national news during dinner, which was our status quo, and I burst into tears saying I couldn't watch the news anymore. It was too scary and I thought my dad was going to die. (They didn't even realize I'd overheard any of the deployment conversations, so she was stunned.) I saw the Challenger in person because we were in Tampa at the time, but I didn't really understand it. But my parents agonizing over military dependent health benefits being insufficient in the eighties (especially given multiple weird health needs popping up for all three of us dependents) and then Desert Storm...? Those were super real. I was also way more aware of the AIDS crisis than your typical first grader because my mom was a pharm tech at one of the few places in Florida that administered the early infusion meds. She'd talk about it at the dinner table with my dad because, as chief of a station, he needed to know the latest about hazmat stuff, and one of her bosses was at the forefront of the HIV research of the time. But they were so clinical about it that I learned NOT to be afraid of it.
But between the end of Desert Storm and the day of Columbine? The nineties seemed fairly hopeful. We even had an East German and a Czech camp counselor from my Girl Scout camp stay with us during their week off in '93, and hearing about their experiences with the Iron Curtain coming down and the sparks of democracy definitely colored how I saw the world. It made Columbine and then 9/11, especially, and the Dot-Com bubble bursting a real wake-up call.
We are in a moment where Nothing is normal !
I am straight-up Gen X. I am not skeeved out by interacting with people in person!
Tim is right. This is the golden years for conservative voices. They’re loud and they’re everywhere.
WTF?....seriously?
golden, or senescent?
Someone needs to tell those young republicans that being gay is not an ideology!
I'm 73,and with the exception of Gore and President Obama (2), I voted for the "lesser of the two evils"; so, get used to it, Kids.
Yeah, that's what politics IS!
I think some younger people have romanticized views of the 60s and of how they believe people felt about JFK and they want to feel that. Hell, I’d like to feel that. Until I do I’ll keep doing my civic duty and feel good about that.
I'm 74. Did the same thing except for Clinton. Voted for him in 1992. But not in '96. The Don't Ask Don't Tell rules really made me angry. I didn't vote for potus at all that year.
@@lovemesomeslippersThe death of RFK was more consequential than JFK's, imo.
@@lovemesomeslippersI was a teen in the 60s. Nothing romantic to feel about it. Three, or four, big assassinations, urban riots. Still legal segregation for the first half of the 60s. And, obviously, Vietnam.
Really enjoyed listening to Peter Hamby.
Made even better by the fact he's very easy on the eyes.
I disagree with basically everything Hamby says. As a millennial, my first few real memories were Columbine and 9/11. Gen Z has grown up with anxious, paranoid, cynical parents in a world where GW Bush waged untenable wars and the economy crashed and now Trump. How would you expect them to think or act? Honestly, we're lucky they have a hopeful bone in their skinny lil bodies.
Careful, Sarah will turn her disdain ray on you next
@@D34DH34D4LYF I would be honored. I love Sarah.
The anxiety of Gen Z resonates with me as an early Gen Xer. My crew at school and I were pretty sure the saber-rattling pot roasts in DC were going to end the world in a mushroom cloud of Mutually Assured Destruction.
@@rachael_grey "saber-rattling pot roasts" 😘
I'm a GenX man who is 50 come February, and I have a lot of respect for you and our young adults a good deal and I honestly don't think that we would have been as well adjusted to the same level. I am a husband and father from Georgia and just wanted to thank yall and encourage you to vote for Biden and invite friends. ✌️
The retirement age continues to be raised. Gen-x is racing to catch up monetarily to retire. Record numbers of Gen-x cannot ever retire. Now, the generations behind us find it even harder to accrue savings and the retirement idea because more and more out of reach. The issue here is our politicians MUST feel the pressure to tax the ultra rich deeper and we could then turn this bullshit around.
the problem is that the GOP's entire existence is based in protecting that class, and the GOP has disproportionate power , especially electorally. Look at the reaction to the Democrats just raising the idea of subpoaening Leonard Leo and Harlan Crow.
Anyone whos intellectually honest would not see this as controversial, yet these very well known and long serving GOP senators feel the need to protect them? How does this make sense no matter what party you're in? In a democracy, it should alarm every participant, especially the legislative branch, that Billionaires are buying supreme court justices through an unaccountable power broker.
So as an independent who finds this show interesting, even if I dont necessarily agree with their assessments, you have to look at the GOP as a whole and its dysfunction from the top to the bottom, national to local. It is a zombified host infected with trumpism, which embodies all the things that we don't want in a democratic system.
When I hear GOP representatives over multiple years repeatedly pronouncing that they dont want everyone to vote, all the way back to the 70s by Paul W something, and add that with actions that the GOP still engages in to this day, extreme gerrymandering, rewriting jurisprudence with faulty facts and opinions, and senators blocking legislation with a piece of paper to prevent their schemes from being exposed. Thats the natural conclusion to draw because otherwise I cant think of a reason why Lindsey Graham thinks its inappropriate.
I was raised very conservative, evangelical Christian. I remember crying in 7th grade bc I got an answer marked wrong on my science exam. The question was about some evolutionary concept, and they didn’t have an option for God creating the earth in 7 days so I marked answer that I knew “they wanted me to put” with an X, and wrote a note next to the answer with what I perceived to be “the real right answer”. My teacher didn’t even discuss it with me at all, just subtracted the points. Yet I felt so very persecuted bc of it and we prayed about it at my church.
To sum up conservative grievance... they not only want to hold and share delusional ideologies. But they should be praised & celebrated for it.
Right.
It’s natural that they would want someone who would fight for their future instead of for nostalgia to a past long dead that’s responsible for what they face right now. But they know the difference between Biden and Trump
Valuable conversation. Thanks.
Helpful discussion. I’m glad I tuned in. Ty
Being one whose sentiments are always aligned with the gen z, I am positive that the negative polls about Biden are voters comparing him with what he would be, ideally. That is, comparing him with our hopes. Gen Z knows Biden is a person of superior empathy and the most progressive president since FDR, and that we MUST vote for him or else lose America entirely. We also know Trump can not win and he will not win. There are two choices in 2024; democracy or dictatorship.
The anxiety of Gen Z resonates with me as an early Gen Xer. My crew at school and I were pretty sure the saber-rattling pot roasts in DC were going to end the world in a mushroom cloud of Mutually Assured Destruction.
the common thread is media coverage. Which is partially driven by things that happen, but also partially curated and editorialized to keep a consistent narrative, Whatever anyone thinks of Noam Chomsky, I've never heard anyone dispute his book on Manufacturing Consent
Well you all missed the daily, Cold War, anxiety induced about that.
Your generation Sarah didn’t grow up facing the threats of a bleak and dystopian future that millennials face. As a conservative I’m guessing, I could be wrong, you were/are ambivalent about climate change and a gun violence epidemic was just the price of freedom. I speak not as a millennial, but as the father of a millennial daughter. Millennials know the future will be theirs to manage, that their elders are trashing the world they will inherit and they are powerless to do anything about it, and then their parents and grandparents elect the orange monster. How they find the strength and grace not to hate us humbles me. And if they’re living in Florida fears of their homes and livelihoods disappearing under the waves is no joke
V. much this. If you somehow _don't_ think that climate change is an existential threat to most forms of life on the planet, you either don't know or can't process what is happening. The old structures that modern life was built on are crumbling before our eyes while the wealthy dig underground survival mansions or hallucinate about living on another planet altogether. Plenty of people don't want to have children because they don't want them to have to grow up in the world they know is coming. It's a far more rational response than pretending everything will work out ok.
I can imagine that our youth living in Florida feel quite helpless and hopeless about their future. I do hope our youth in Florida can find an outlet with like minded smart intellectuals. Florida unfortunately is attracting the dregs of society 😕. I lived in Florida when Florida was Purple. My parents were educated Republicans at that time.
@@nancychandler3673 Not just in Florida, everywhere.
@@cristosl Yes
@@cristoslyou realize millenail is 1982 which means someone who is turning 42 next year, these students were gen z
Fascinating.
this is why i hate when people just take a percentage poll and the media runs with it for weeks and weeks sometimes. Gen Z, as naive as they can be, are definitely aware of the choice. And social media will actually be a help in this situation because there arent really unknowns, and as Peter says, the stakes are really really high.
This furthers my understanding that polls exist basically to give the punditry class something to pontificate for a week. Free content for corporate media for a week or two, and then they move on.
Awesome episode. Lots of stuff to appreciate about these gen-z voters. Unfortunate to see them also getting pushed into their corners. :/
It seems inclusion of different ppl, like the LGBTQ for conservatives is a bridge too far, why can’t they just be like us heterosexuals, diversity makes for a more interesting life, than just a vanilla society.
Young people voting third party is so ignorant.
Old people too.
I’m ‘85, my son was born in 2005, so his first time voting is next year. I’m a registered dem and so is he. I think the last time I voted republican was McCain, he seemed like a just really honorable person. I can’t see myself voting republican ever again. My son and I are pretty much at the same enthusiasm level for a rematch for 2 old dudes who are the same age as my grandma, my son’s great grandma (that’s pretty mind boggling when your think about it). We will both be voting, because neither of us think life or our country will be the same if trump wins.
Something we both lament is the lack of nuance in politics, AND how politics is now an all consuming thing, something that is a core part of your identity now.
The Democrat panel sounded pretty pragmatic and thoughtful. It made me feel better. I noticed that all of these Gen Z people said “like” almost constantly. Take a drink for ever time they say “like” and you’d be passed out by the end. I wonder, what was our Gen X word? Maybe we said “awesome” too much.
Makes sense that AA over 50 are reliably Democratic since the Civil Rights Legislation had a huge, discernible impact on their lives. AA under 50 have not seen much progress.
In large part due to people like Sarah
Fun chat about the 80s. I came up at the same time as y'all. We didn't even have a TV the first 10 years of my life. Challenger is one of my oldest memories too.
Fellow Zennial here in the house. I definitely feel like I grew up in the old and new world.
The Economist poll in this age group shows Biden with quite a lead over Drumpf.
The oldest ones are almost 30. Some are parents by now.
It was hard for Gen X too. The only reason I was able to buy a house *in my mid-40s* is bc of an Obama housing program. I had to take a year of classes while living with my parents. In my 40s.
I remember telling my children that "I wasn't young enough to know everything" they told me that was wrong, they didn't get the humor.
However, recently, our eldest son is now working in a micro electronics 'standards' calibration Lab. And they have got a Gen Z (a self trained computer geek) junior who keeps telling him how micro electronics works ... Our son, who has a degree and multiple Qualifications in the topic and has lots of experience, knows the 'junior' is wrong i.e. his knowledge is incomplete and could be dangerous ... He recently used my old joke when summarizing the juniors' skill level.
In fundamental terms, Joe has got more done and got better results that any other at the time.? Why he has the knowledge of the true depth of running a country with 350million people. His steady as she goes is What we as a COUNTRY NEEDED CERTAINLY AT THE TIME. I (as an exec who has been on secondment to 5 different Democratic countries over the last 16 years) can't imagine ANY millennial in federal Politics who has the skill, wisdom and experience to do what Joe has done.
Least of all in the Republican Congressional Party. Let's be real, who were the wise Republicans that voted against Scump's impeachments and had the skill and wisdom to begin to heal the calamitous cacophony of SCUMP?
There is an old saying which I use(d) as my modis operandi I had in my office "ALL THAT EVIL (trouble) NEEDS TO SUCCEED IS FOR 'GOOD' PEOPLE TO DO NOTHING". Let's also be clear, doing something for the Party when the consequences for the PEOPLE (voters) as a whole, (particularly given Political parties like corporations, religions don't have the vote ergo the implicit power as intended) is logically, functionally, if not literally (where in the constitution is party interest tops the constitution) ANTI-constitutional, Anti-Democratic (as much as we have democratic principles.), anti-civil society and definitional seditious. (Replacing the party for the constitution and its form of government).
To my way of thinking, none of the surviving Republicans are worthy of their role in government.
As for the BS small government (read end of the administrative state.... good luck running America without one. All control n the hand of one person or party ? That has a name, either Autocracy or Plutocracy)
I'm in favor of more parties that can stop one party gerrymandering in order to run a non-representative government.
But the campaigns should be on issues that affect the lives of the VOTERS practically day-to-day livability well-being rather than culture wars ... Governments should be involved in them their job is to ensure voters regardless of the culture have their needs met.
Biden needs to have a branding on how he knows Washington and has the best people surrounding him.
The real compaign happens after the new year.
The question that has to be asked to voters…if it comes down to Biden v trump, who do you vote for. Vast majority of supposedly disapproving Biden will vote that way
You are so close to getting it.
My experience is that young conservatives are ultra radical
Excellent
There were times in college where I knew I need to tell the professor what they wanted to hear but they were in way political. One example was a guy in a book who either shot himself or was murder and my professor said he shot himself but in a paper I argued that other side. If I was a bit worried about my grade in the class I wouldn’t of done it and yeah it hurt my grade. Was I censored for my belief? According to the conservatives in the group, yes. According to me, no.
In America a 'quarter life crisis" occurs at about 15 years of age.
these people are too younge to buying homes etc. Im Gen X, inn my 50s and I dont own a home and most of my friends that do only do because their parents helped them. We thought the parties were the same too and that the world was not hopeful in our 20s
That was my reaction. I didn’t have a bed in my apartment until my grandfather moved out of his house into assisted living and couldn’t take all his furniture with him. The expectations of these 25 year olds seem wildly out of sync with reality.
Or maybe I’m just old.
8:35 Nice mischaracterization!
Gen Z is concerned about having children due to financial concern (primarily student loans and cost of housing), not because "the country is going to, like, sink into the ocean" [sic].
I’m frightened about the lack of awareness of 20 year olds I know
Hang out with better people
@D34DH34D4LYF and then what those people still vote
The awareness is the same for all ages. The only thing that has shocked me about the last decade is how immature and uniformed my parents and grandparents are. If Americans were dealing with bombs flying over their heads on a regular basis they would be more sober
Ukraine is a model democracy? Who the hell is? What did Volodymyr Zelenskyy not win the popular vote? Do they have nakedly anti democratic gerrymandering? Yes they banned some political parties but we don’t all foreign governments to fund political parties either. We would have done just about everything that Ukraine did if we were in a similar situation.
Meanwhile here in the US, the world's oldest democracy, the loser "won" the Presidency twice in the past 25 years to the detriment of all of us.
People should also know that the U.S. is obligated to aid Ukraine based on the Budapest Memorandum.
Housing costs are the next biggest issue!!!
33:00 not a coincidence that your young left group was women and your young right group was men. The gender gap in politics is larger for young people than old people. I’d go so far to say it’s a chasm.
Our young Conservative men seem to be having issues with their self-esteem. They are struggling in ways that Conservatives never struggled when Conservative Rhetoric was more inclusive.
@@nancychandler3673
Inclusive of who?
I remember the fraternities and sororities of the 80's and 90's overwhelmingly conservative and tons of rape of men and women and tons of graduates getting jobs based on who they knew instead of their training and potential qualifications.
Sarah is probably right about “the more things change …” but she if from central PA and I have to wonder how much of her conservatism is just situated family, geographical, etc. I mean what IS “conservatism” today? If it is Trump then it is just fascism.
Awesome comment
but Rights and Democracy are on the line so they better give a damn and vote approriately
My sister (we're both late-cohort boomers) is the CEO of a NYC-based nonprofit lending institution for commercial housing and she says the big looming economic crisis will happen when landlords walk away en masse from their buildings because so many people are in arrears on their rent (paying rent is for suckers) and eviction is hard.
It would be so interesting to hear 20 year olds from the '60's, '70's, '80's, etc... answer the same questions you posed to your focus group. I can pretty much guarantee there would be as much eye rolling from their answers as there is to millenials answers.
Gen x ers without an education had it worst with stagnant wages for decades. We just didnt know we could complain lol! We really should have been the silent generation 2.
I feel like Gen Zs kids…if the planet is still here…will have great home prices because of population decrease👍🏼
Love u guys👍🏼😁💙
Biden is in really good shape for 81. I mean, this guy has got to be in good shape to be traveling as much as he does. he's been literally all over the world the past year and a half, a couple of times over it seems. A stroke of genius would be to have Biden film a visit with his doctors (some of the very best in the world, mind you) and they can go through his chart for the public. It's a pathetic commentary on our times, but it could be very beneficial to those who are particularly worried about him (young people). And it could also connect the dots for younger people to relate to him in a new way. They all see what their parents deal with medically, even their grandparents, so it could be a touchstone for younger voters he's going to need and it would shut the mouths of the negative nancys and the right wing bullshit machine.
This 85 baby is digging this episode
3:47 do young ppl not have grandparents and auntie and uncles anymore? I am 61 and when I was 57-58 hung out easily with the 25 yr olds at the pub, they reminded me of the 60s laid back, enveloping and living as welcoming and unifying young ppl. In fairness they thought I was in my 30’s initially.
Tell them to run.
You guys make me feel old.....
Awesome show! This answered a lot of questions for me with Gen Z and their current feelings on politics. I knew '22% of Gen Z support Trump' was bs. As a Gen X with no kids, I relate far more with older millennials. I was an early adopter with tech and was using the ICQ messenger app in 1998. It took y'all like a decade to get Yahoo Messenger and start texting so I could quit answering my phone! 😂
Gen-Z here, he’s definitely right about bernie sanders and the progressive movement giving a voice to our discontent. Without it i’d still either be a republican or completely checked out cause if our only options are maga and neoliberalism the rational thing would be check out and stop caring cause neither one will solve the systemic problems we face such as climate change, wealth inequality, or accessing the american dream
All generations have to be measured in 5 year increments.
I think a generation itself should only be 5 years. Most people (even siblings) have have vastly upbringings with a wider than 5 year age range
If capitalism ruins anything -- it's politics. GOTTA get money out of politics, and enshrine democracy in the law so dictators can't happen.
If those kids thinks it’s hard to be a conservative in a gender studies class imagine my pain as a socialist in economics class
"Biological reality" made me snort-laugh. No my dude, gender has zip to do with biology, and the reality of biological sex is WAY weirder and different to what the politics says.
In this video, people who are pro "don't say gay" whine about cancel culture.
Just because people voice concern for the plight of Palestinians that doesn’t make them antisemitic, nor does it mean they want the destruction of Israel. And it’s disingenuous by now to pretend that this current explosion of violence erupted out of nowhere just this October or to separate American Middle East foreign policy with Israeli domestic policy, any difference is fluff and tinsel. The use by date for that smoke and mirrors strategy expired long ago
You SHOULD get a lower grade if you spout nonsense like we need a “wall.” You can have conservative take on immigration but still understand that a physical wall doesn’t make sense economically or politically. And many of things are not “viewpoints.” Facts lean liberal.
Am I the only Democrat in existence that thinks a secured border is a good thing? That everyone should come in with papers and given a SS number? I just hated how Trump sold that as something Mexico would pay for - when it obviously would be taxpayer funded which no Republican would admit to spending on.
@@user-Tn2Dn No. didn’t say a secure border isn’t a good thing. Said a wall is nonsense because it won’t make it “secure.” Airplanes. Cars. Trucks. Buses. Plus, border too long. (On all sides).
Only young men on the Republican side? What's up with that?
They think it's in their best interests because it continues the power hold going back to their great grandfathers
If you go to a class to learn something but instead assert your opinion, you will get a bad grade.
Not all prefessors are correct, infact I'm learning some of them are stupider than the average
Those progressives aren't talking about catastrophes, they're talking about real issues and concerns.
Young folk simply need a plan that wouldn’t even have crossed older people’s radar. They’ll be okay but it won’t be the same.
They can’t afford homes and the climate will be unsustainable within the lifetimes of their children, if they have them. Of course young people are depressed
Vivek if it wasn’t for the colour of his skin would be Trump’s political doppelgänger
Not sure if it matters...but FYI, your content is running with Daily Wire adverts in it.
And it's super transphobic.
I feel badly for the young people coming up. I don’t believe they are getting a fair shake at the American dream like prior generations did.
As much as I like Bulwark (it's a guilty pleasure)....These polito nerds and poll soothsayers are equally to blame for steering the conversation into babble and ultimately muddying the waters with horse sh!t...don't tell us your opinion - who f888ing cares about your opinion - tell us the truth!!!!!!!!!
Did you notice the focus group seemed all women? And some of this stuff is legit catastrophic.
Very interesting as a baby-boomer writer returning as an invited-speaker to campus!
Remember it was the Progressives who said they didn’t know enough.
Not to belittle anyone, but did younger generations own houses at 25? I didn’t even own a futon until I was 25, or a car until I was 32. I had hand-me-down furniture and took our relatively terrible public transport or walked for 8 years before I made that investment. I seriously thought it was just the standard to be 25 and not have a lot of money. Who are these 25 year olds comparing themselves to?
70 years ago a middle class manufacturing job provided healthcare, was sufficient to buy a home a car and raise a family. Today most middle class jobs are barely adequate to meet people’s daily needs. Within 3 years of migrating and working in factories my parents bought a house and 2 years later payed it off while raising two kids and then bringing a third one into the world. That’s a fantasy now
@@cristosl I’m not that old, so maybe that’s part of my misunderstanding.
No one I know owned a home at 25.
At 25, I also never expected to.
It’s the automatic expectation that I question.
@@robynnordstrom7799 I turned 25 in 1991, 19 years after my parents bought their house on what was then a minimum wage. I had no expectation I would be able to do the same, my daughter with a double university degree in arts/law has an even bleaker prospect before her. Society is a contract among individuals and between individuals and the state. My parents, your grandparent's generation didn't expect to automatically be given houses but they did expect to be able to provide for their families if they worked hard. That expectation was entirely reasonable, we abandoned that expectation to our detriment.
you obviously didn't choose your parents well
@@D34DH34D4LYF ?
One reason I don't listen to podcasts is because they are about 5 times longer than they need to be. I expected to hear about the focus groups and instead the hosts blabber on about their own experiences. I'm done.
It may be too late to switch Biden out but we could at least replace Kamala with Booker or Jeffries - someone young, smart and articulate that people would have confidence in. Someone that can do all the talking and debating we can’t depend on Biden or Kamala to do.
What is special about Gen Z is their access to the internet. It is the first generation who had 24/7 access to the internet.
I think they had less contact to ordinary people and reality in general. On the internet every reality can look real.
As a late Boomer (b. 1960), If there is one piece of advice I can offer, Gen-Z is, *_put down the damn phone_* and pick up a god-damn book, sit down and read it.
Read about _history,_ the _political philosophies_ from the Renaissance through the Enlightenment to the present, _economic philosophy,_ and _scientific philosophy._ Don't just look for authors whose ideas conform to your preconceived biases. CHALLENGE yourself; consider ideas you might be averse to-if only to better understand such potentially controversial views and perspectives.
Only by reading will you _learn_ to be a better, more informed person, least susceptible to external influences. The world is not black and white, it is a kaleidoscope of colour, nuance, and subtlety… do not paint every challenging issue with a black or white brush.
Kids have access to every bit of information that has ever existed, on that phone, in the palms of their hands. They have no need to pick up a book. Go back to the stone age, boomer.
How many Bush recessions did Gen X live thru?
1980-83 was the worst recession since WWII. Your point?
At least 3 if you go back to Reagan because bush sr was vice president
Gotta say, too, about vocabulary like "problematic" coming up in the early aughts? You clearly weren't at City College of San Francisco and Berkeley in those years. 😂 It wasn't as pervasive as it became among my grad cohort just a few years later at UW-Madison, but it was definitely there.
I don't think you guys are millennials. I'm 76 and I'm Gen X. If you are 80 and 81 i don't think you're millennials.
I simply cannot take anyone seriously when they say 'like' every 10 words. Was there a dare going on here?
If you refused to air any comments by someone who repeated uses "like" in their answer, you'd have no one to report on. Jesus, I never though what was once ridiculed as "Valley speak" would now become the modus operandi of today's youth--and increasing older folks.
You straddle Gen X and Gen Y, not Gen Z.
That’s why the micro generation term is Xennials. 🙃
Xennials unite! (If you have time between child care and elder care).
Zillennials are people between '92 and '98 lol, not '78 to '82 lol
Could've never dated anyone that says "like" in every sentence 4 times... another symptom the country is full of people who can't think critically....
The incredible dismissiveness and arrogance in the tone of the commetators you have on whenever the topic is Gen Z is maddening. I am a millenial but I don`t see a reason to treat young people with this arrogance and dismissivenes..
The cost of living and the affordability of housing really got worse the last ten years. You can compare income and how much things cost from then to now and it is very clear that you have to pay way more of your income in percentage for rent, a house and groceries. To just laugh about that and push it aside with "New York has always been expensive" like that is it is menacing.
Also calling people who are of voting age who you supposedly want to vote for you "the kid" is a choice ...
The older voters you talk to are exactly as iúninformed as these younger voters, but still you don`t talk about them with this constant dismissive smirk in your face. Your guest actually managed to have a dismissive smirk in his face for nearly the whole 50 miutes, it`s an accomplishment I guess.
Maybe reflect about your bias against young people a bit.
I hear so many media sorts decry the total focus on the horse race aspects of the national election races. Biden's numbers are falling...yet there is another candidate running in the Democratic primary. Why not give Dean Philips some air time? I watched him on an interview recently and I was amazed. So, give people a choice or at least a comparison. maybe there would be more optimism.
Dean Phillips was born with a silver spoon and is a multi-millionaire businessman centrist. I don’t see him having much appeal with progressive youth. Biden has a more progressive track record and Dean Phillips is just a spoiler.
1:20: "people like I", eh, Sarah? Go to sixth grade and learn about cases of pronouns.