It is always prudent to test so called stainless steel with a magnet, it is easy to replace real stainless with something cheaper and likely to corrode, and fatigue. The Chinese stuff is known for this their so called stainless spinners are magnetic everywhere except the barrel.
Good on you Jason. It's always great to have a review to help people out while they deal with budgets. By the way we put cross-bracing that hand crank model. Cross welded rebar set up with a space for bucket to fit under. Introduce the wobble by about 90%. Those darn legs are just too light of a gauge to start with. Hope the cattle are doing well!
@@jimjohnson2881 Yes! I have a video in the works showing how we came up with the brace design. In the mean time look at the leg bracings that Lyson uses. The trick is to leave room for the bucket.
Keep in mind that the country that makes this has oppressed it citizens and they have no rights. But you turn your back on the human rights as long as you get a deal. FYI. Someday it will catch up with everyone
I have a hand cranked 3 framers but it fit 6 honey frames because of the size difference. But not with Langstroth frames because they are bigger then those "standard" we using in the Netherland. It worked well when I had a few hives but will upgrade to a bigger and with a engine. Takes away times you need to spend on uncapping frames between each time they ends up inside the extractor if you do it alone. Great video you did. But wish you could tell about the price difference between those 2.
Great extractors, both seem good, I have a hand crank, I think it's only 2 frame, only have the one hive so far a worked great, just time consuming if you have more than one or 2 hives, but spins great, Easy cleanup because no electrical parts to worry about. Great comparison video.
I think they could put better stronger legs on the extractors, because you do get wiggel movement which will eventually cause damage to the legs and possibly break the weld or cause the legs to twist.
I've done just that by making an adapter that holds a one way clutch bearing that slides onto the shaft where the crank mounts, got it from a vid here on youtube.
Honestly Ben I thought about doing that but then I went out and bought a 20 frame Lyson. I'm sure you can do it it would just be awkward hanging onto the drill.
Only downfall of the the electric version is you better have the frames weight distribution pretty close at least with the 4 frame manual you can fill it shimmy when you first spool it up
Not that big of a deal. Balance the load when you put the frames in and start at the lowest RPM. Whether it's our electric or hand-crank it's always the same. Balance and start slow.
New 72 year old beek here. Does any one know if they make a hand extractor for deep frames? I am using Langstroth frames in a horizontal hive and it was a little difficult using medium dranes for my super section.
Anyone know where to get replacement parts, specifically the lids for the electric one? Mine shattered and I'd rather just buy replacements instead of trying to make my own.
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I bought the 3 frame hand crank Vevor and I am very pleased with it.
Will your unit hold medium and deep frames?
It is always prudent to test so called stainless steel with a magnet, it is easy to replace real stainless with something cheaper and likely to corrode, and fatigue. The Chinese stuff is known for this their so called stainless spinners are magnetic everywhere except the barrel.
Ordered one today.
Good on you Jason. It's always great to have a review to help people out while they deal with budgets.
By the way we put cross-bracing that hand crank model. Cross welded rebar set up with a space for bucket to fit under. Introduce the wobble by about 90%. Those darn legs are just too light of a gauge to start with.
Hope the cattle are doing well!
I thought maybe a cross brace would help, glad you have confirmed.
The cows are doing well, getting fat for winter. 😊
could you show a pic of the added support for legs
@@jimjohnson2881 Yes! I have a video in the works showing how we came up with the brace design. In the mean time look at the leg bracings that Lyson uses. The trick is to leave room for the bucket.
Have the electric extractor, take the 4 nuts on top off and the motor and basket come out for very easy cleaning when you are finished.
Thanks for the info!
Great go around!😊
Thanks! 😊
My arm can't do the manual anymore. Got the 4/8 frame for the price I'll take the cons. Ya know what I mean😆
Thanks for the great review
Keep in mind that the country that makes this has oppressed it citizens and they have no rights. But you turn your back on the human rights as long as you get a deal. FYI. Someday it will catch up with everyone
Thank you Jason for another great video
Glad you enjoyed it
I have a hand cranked 3 framers but it fit 6 honey frames because of the size difference. But not with Langstroth frames because they are bigger then those "standard" we using in the Netherland. It worked well when I had a few hives but will upgrade to a bigger and with a engine. Takes away times you need to spend on uncapping frames between each time they ends up inside the extractor if you do it alone. Great video you did. But wish you could tell about the price difference between those 2.
Good morning. Muito bom meu amigo. Parabéns TMJ 👍🏽🐝🇧🇷
Great extractors, both seem good, I have a hand crank, I think it's only 2 frame, only have the one hive so far a worked great, just time consuming if you have more than one or 2 hives, but spins great,
Easy cleanup because no electrical parts to worry about.
Great comparison video.
Have you ever tried a cordless drill to crank the extractor?
@JCsBees no, didn't think of that, will bolt it down and give it a try 😉
I think they could put better stronger legs on the extractors, because you do get wiggel movement which will eventually cause damage to the legs and possibly break the weld or cause the legs to twist.
I think a bracket between the legs would help a lot. Someone need to design something for that.
Am I the only one who sees a drill attached to the hand crank instead of the hand crank?😂
I've done just that by making an adapter that holds a one way clutch bearing that slides onto the shaft where the crank mounts, got it from a vid here on youtube.
Honestly Ben I thought about doing that but then I went out and bought a 20 frame Lyson. I'm sure you can do it it would just be awkward hanging onto the drill.
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Only downfall of the the electric version is you better have the frames weight distribution pretty close at least with the 4 frame manual you can fill it shimmy when you first spool it up
Not that big of a deal. Balance the load when you put the frames in and start at the lowest RPM. Whether it's our electric or hand-crank it's always the same.
Balance and start slow.
@@MinnesotaBeekeeper I do it all in my kitchen, I can’t bolt it down.
@motoxxdrumr6 Bolt it down to a piece of plywood and stand on the plywood when extracting.
@@JCsBees great idea, thanks!
Everyone should have one hand crank on-hand, appropriately sized based on the number of colonies when shtf.
Good point! I can think of a few good reason to have a hand crank model on hand.
New 72 year old beek here. Does any one know if they make a hand extractor for deep frames? I am using Langstroth frames in a horizontal hive and it was a little difficult using medium dranes for my super section.
Roy read the descriptions on any extractor. Most will let you do mediums and deeps. Fewer deep frames will fit but more often than not they will.
@@MinnesotaBeekeeper Thank you so much for your kind response.
Anyone know where to get replacement parts, specifically the lids for the electric one? Mine shattered and I'd rather just buy replacements instead of trying to make my own.
Here ya go!
www.ebay.com/itm/352277070394?epid=15014643905&hash=item520559823a:g:uX0AAOSwjytafXnM&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0LnvJ1XXd607EhSQ9yzC0FC27TsLwM8PFtVtWIPyiwtm7h4Apdkr9bjIx0nMcKrjXR6srossiabDt6nW8E3ZaHIwuMsPLZ1y5cz1Cqc6xIVaTeuFTDY2rOXE0gGsW2j6Jw6PZE67arEdbHmX35YXEKkcrjJ%2F4jpi9OQkWnt275PiIYX2pzx6bOlPYeTZ2S1wHpm3OWQ858Z%2F1kbNKWgMTeN2mUmc5RwA58qqdt3r3fF%2BRLKyxFbZCz5FH6XqPURnCjGy7bApXeXIWKxeFrJX9ds%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4K88-rHYg
@@JCsBees thankyou