MILK THE STANS, KILL THE PLANET!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @beyondartv
    @beyondartv  Год назад +60

    Listen, obviously there's oil companies, big tech, and other huge players harming our planet carelessly. But for young music fans who seem to be so "woke" to being eco friendly, why are we making millionaire companies BILLIONAIRES by purchasing 10 different versions of physical albums?! #WasteManagement ♻

  • @ASCENSiON_
    @ASCENSiON_ Год назад +59

    6:43 the things people will do for an artist is really scary. Brad Taste and Tina have both been getting harassed by stans on Twitter with death threats, doxxing threats, and other horrible things all because they didn't like an album. Wanna know which artist it was from?
    MELANIE FUCKING MARTINEZ...

  • @karacoconutag
    @karacoconutag Год назад +62

    The Swiftologist here on RUclips just made a video about Taylor Swift's CONSTANT, typically low effort, low quality merch drops, and it was rough. No one needs this much excess. Especially not our planet.
    And the multiple vinyl releases thing gets me because it's not just harmful to the earth, but it hurts smaller artists big time.
    Videos like this are important because it needs to be normalized that you can be a fan of someone and their work and still criticize things about them. No one's perfect, let's stop pretending anybody is.

    • @nicholebaldwin1332
      @nicholebaldwin1332 Год назад +2

      100%% agree. It’s a good thing to critique the artists you like.

    • @madisonsmith9127
      @madisonsmith9127 Год назад +2

      I agree and I’m a swiftie

    • @miaeurope
      @miaeurope Год назад

      Well put. Folks can say what they want, the plasticky finish of folklore and evermore vinyls didn’t make me happy at all and my records even skipped, as the plastic bent when I was trying to gently lift it over. I don’t care what color the vinyl has, to me the only importance is the quality of the record and long term retention, which is why I’m only buying the classic black vinyls - funnily enough some artists now market these higher quality vinyls as limited editions, though the uplift is still better than having to purchase new versions of the same record, because the original was rubbish.

  • @AMoniqueOcampo
    @AMoniqueOcampo Год назад +27

    I am a fangirl and I collect vinyl, but I have an actual vinyl record player and I don't have a "collect them all" kind of mentality, even when Taylor was doing her clock thing. It helps that I don't make enough money for excess.
    A friend of mine says that she only buys vinyls of albums that don't have any skips.

  • @eddiii4030
    @eddiii4030 Год назад +20

    The worst part is that the artists and companies that partake in this are the ones who DON'T need all of that money. The artists with stans are multi-millionaires. To them all these extra sales are like emptying plastic water bottles into the ocean. At this point they're just exploiting their fanbases to turn Billboard into a D-measuring contest

  • @jennafishy97
    @jennafishy97 Год назад +19

    Couldn't have said it better myself!
    The way that Taylor Swift and her team marketed Midnights really rubbed me the wrong way. Her fans would literally do anything for her (and she knows that), and it just feels kind of greedy. She's practically a billionaire at this point.

    • @jenniferkate7167
      @jenniferkate7167 Год назад +6

      i know right. i've been a long-time swiftie and variant-collector, but i'm starting to get fed up with it. it's too stressful and expensive to try and secure every 'limited' variant. i'm a uni student and she's a multi-millionaire, like c'mon it's lowkey exploitative

  • @pizzaopossum
    @pizzaopossum Год назад +16

    I completely understand what you mean. As a Kpop stan, the fans are starting to voice that they feel taken advantage of by the companies. The only way we’re going to stop it is by just not feeding into this idea that we have to keep buying ever ridiculous thing they try to sell us.

  • @lucymorrison
    @lucymorrison Год назад +13

    This is something I stand on as well. I think supporting smaller artists is absolutely vital for keeping music alive, but the whole “buy all 47 colours and get the limited edition release” thing from artists who have sold 30 million records and clearly don’t need the money is just insane

  • @lukejohnston5993
    @lukejohnston5993 Год назад +4

    I felt exactly the same about the Midnights launch, so much so that I wrote multiple rants about it on Discogs etc. Total joke to encourage people to build a clock out of vinyl, and incredibly unethical.

  • @crunchysoupp
    @crunchysoupp Год назад +42

    I ain't tryna get political but.....I love your videos:)

  • @blazesaiyanwarrior1998
    @blazesaiyanwarrior1998 Год назад +35

    Even as a massive fan of….all the kpop acts you mentioned including Stray Kids, TxT, and even Ateez, I agree 1,000,000%! Bulk buying in the music industry in general (not just kpop) has become a massive problem to the point of contributing to our already growing waste problem worldwide. Buying physical copies of albums is NOT a sin of course (I have a copy of each of the groups’s latest albums including Ready to Be and The Name Chapter: Temptation), but it gets overboard when stans buy literally EVERY SINGLE VERSION of the album times 100.

    • @adenvue4310
      @adenvue4310 Год назад +3

      Kpop companies should just sell packs of photocards. I feel like photocards are the reason why people buy so many copies. It irks me too, because sometimes I just want one photocard that sells for an insane price on the aftermarket. I realize I don't need it, but wouldn't it be neat if kpop companies capitalized on the photocard industry they created (I know they use photcards as a tactic for fans to buy multiple versions of the same album). I just want a way to buy and collect the cards that isn't so wasteful.

    • @indigosea
      @indigosea Год назад +4

      ​@adenvue4310 Actually, bts's company has tried that with Jhope's solo album. It was a pack of photocards and a code for a digital album. But the company ended up getting a lot of backlash from some fans for that. The fans even claimed that it was some sort of sabotage to Jhope and that the company is mistreating him 😅.

  • @jotainsamaameison
    @jotainsamaameison Год назад +5

    Oh my god, thank you! This REALLY needed to be said.

  • @QAmodb
    @QAmodb Год назад +6

    Also, the NFT approach companies/record labels/artist are going for is also harmful to the environment. I remember when BTS company HYBE wanted to try out doing NFT photo cards for not just BTS but other idols in their company as well. And I remember they received a huge backlash from Army's (as well as other fandoms) because it can be harmful to the earth. So many Army's became happy after RM decided to do a PowerPoint presentation for HYBE and basically try to convince them why they shouldn't go through with their NFT ideas.

  • @diminie_chimket
    @diminie_chimket Год назад +4

    I completely agree with you! It's honestly insane just what management companies do to try and get money.

  • @simontalksmusic811
    @simontalksmusic811 Год назад +9

    Great video! I agree it's very scary to see how far so many people go to support their favourite artists no matter what, and I feel like a lot of this is probably done out of fear of being judged as 'not a real fan.'

  • @alexandraspencer1735
    @alexandraspencer1735 Год назад +18

    Don't get me wrong I'm a sucker for different versions of the album. But then it's still crazy to me that when an artist released 8 copies of the same cd with a different varient or cover or 11 copies of the same vinyl with the only thing being the color of the pressing, is crazy to me. I understand where the artist is coming from wanting to make sales but If the album is actually really good, wouldn't it get an award on its own, with only one physical copy of the album?

  • @NickFieldMedia
    @NickFieldMedia Год назад +4

    It reminds me of when singles were often released as 2 separate CDs with different b-sides. Of course, everyone felt obliged to buy both. It got to the stage where the expectations were so high for including new songs, remixes, live tracks etc. that here in the UK, CD singles were restricted to having 3 songs on and could be no longer than 20 minutes (remix CDs were allowed a 4th song as long as it was of the same song as the others). I remember Universal Music having 'special edition' stickers on every album simply because it had one bonus track or remix, which was lame. I drifted a bit from my point here, but I totally agree, seeing it get even more out of hand with special edition albums that come in different colours/artwork - you only need one copy of the album and being totally obsessed with an artist isn't all that healthy or impressive anyway!

  • @georgeprice4212
    @georgeprice4212 Год назад +6

    I usually don’t have multiple copies of an album, unless the International version - if found - has different songs than the American version (looks directly at Sweet and nods approvingly).

  • @carloshuerta3051
    @carloshuerta3051 Год назад +7

    This video was fantastic. Somebody had to say it

  • @kid-ava
    @kid-ava Год назад +1

    haven't watched your channel in years, but agree so much with this video. I'm a newer BTS fan, and I like how passionate and dedicated ARMY is to the music; but damn the way everyone wants there to be a billion views for each video, a bunch of streams for each song and create all these bots, streaming farms and force views INSANE. it's like they make you feel like a fake fan for not wanting to go above and beyond for some grown ass rich men who are already more than well off. they can't just let any other kpop/korean or ANY other artist really go to number 1 or win tons of awards/nominations, cause it always has to be jimin or suga that gets everything 🙄. and now that you've brought up the environmental impact of this issue, I feel even stronger about it.

  • @LostInRegina
    @LostInRegina Год назад +14

    My girlfriend is a massive KPOP fan and the amount of money she spends for all her merch is mind-blowing. 😁

  • @megaascension2748
    @megaascension2748 Год назад +6

    I’m just glad I have enough hobbies in addition to music (anime, Pokémon cards, and kayaking) that I don’t buy all these variants because I know better to spend $300+ on different versions. I typically just buy whatever my favorite variant is. I’ve only bought multiple copies of an album three times- one was because my first CD copy was thrifted and couldn’t be buffed enough to be playable, and the other two were albums that had a large impact on my life (The Black Parade and Blurryface) and having a picture disc or a silver copy of it to display on my wall while I played the other on my turntable is nice.

  • @indigosea
    @indigosea Год назад +4

    You should look into the mass buying in kpop due to fan call events. The more albums you buy the bigger the chance of having a few seconds to talk with one of the people in the group. Its crazy the amount of albums that are going to landfills because of it and its all the company's scheme to inflate sales. It's so bad that some charity places (for children and women's shelters) won't accept albums to be donated to them anymore 😅.

  • @carlashep29xo
    @carlashep29xo Год назад +3

    Completely with you on this, limited edition drops also annoy me

  • @manifestationsofasort
    @manifestationsofasort Год назад +8

    What really annoys me is that stans are out there buying multiple copies of the same albums meanwhile I can't find some albums I desperately want, not even second hand. I know that it comes off as jealous and petty but it makes me bitter irregardless.

  • @SuperDmath
    @SuperDmath Год назад +6

    The only vinyl I have but want another copy of is Moving Pictures because I have my dad’s original pressing and it skips on Tom Sawyer. Technically I have two of High Voltage if you count the American version of that one and the Australian TNT.

    • @georgeprice4212
      @georgeprice4212 Год назад

      With “High Voltage”, that’s kind of different, as you have to get the Australian “High Voltage” as well, for the international releases, to get the American version.

    • @SuperDmath
      @SuperDmath Год назад

      @@georgeprice4212 I have the international High Voltage and TNT which is basically the international High Voltage with a different name and cover. I don’t have the Australian High Voltage although if I actually found it somewhere I’d definitely pick it up.

  • @zobothehobo
    @zobothehobo Год назад +3

    Physical sales are safer and more versitle for the consumer. The reliance on digital products is bad actually because tech companies then own everything and we own nothing. That's not contradictory to your point of multiple physical versions being predatory but it is a point I wanted to put out there for why physical IS better than digital.

  • @LaurenElizabethxxxx
    @LaurenElizabethxxxx Год назад +6

    I’m a big reader and I’ve decided I’m going to stop buying physical copies of books. My kindle is so much easier to carry around and it’s not taking up room in my house. While I love the feeling of books, I read them once and then they gather dust on my shelf. I don’t need them. That’s why I decided to go digital.

    • @justjoannak
      @justjoannak Год назад

      100% agree with this!
      Unless I can only get the book as a physical copy, I prefer to get the digital versions

  • @JohnnyZBeatZ
    @JohnnyZBeatZ Год назад +7

    I still buy albums on cds it’s the best way to listen to music

  • @TheSkinnyZ
    @TheSkinnyZ Год назад +8

    Lol, I don’t have the kind of coin to buy multiple versions of the same vinyl. They ain’t cheap.

    • @TheSkinnyZ
      @TheSkinnyZ Год назад

      I actually ordered a vinyl twice on accident once a gave one copy away as a gift.

  • @melizes83
    @melizes83 Год назад +1

    Yes Jon YES!!! 🎉🙌

  • @nightski380
    @nightski380 Год назад +2

    Along the lines of that, the term, “music industry” is a really weird term considering that it’s supposed to be a way of expressing yourself, and that is yet another thing people have turned into something marketable.

  • @linuxrobotgeek
    @linuxrobotgeek Год назад +4

    I moved to digital music since it saves me space. Plus I have an ipod full of music and backups on my drives just in case I lose them.

  • @Prinren
    @Prinren Год назад +4

    I was coincidentally talking about this with my dad a few hours ago 😭

  • @izumiuchiha9215
    @izumiuchiha9215 Год назад +5

    I watched someone bought 10 copies of a stray kids album and got the same photo card

  • @lisandroxiii5031
    @lisandroxiii5031 Год назад +4

    Fr
    I'm more of a stream guy, cause I don't own a record player, but this is getting out of hand.
    This is literally stans that buy in excess for no reason.
    Like, there's no way someone would have 5 different versions of a vinyl and use all of them.
    At least with Pokemon cards or action figures you have various types and you could exhibit them or sell them in the future if u get over them.
    This is just buying the same thing over and over again.
    It's cute if a few people do it so they keep the different covers or vinyl desings, but labels keep promoting these as a LOT of people buy them.
    And yeah they do it with like the biggest artists like T-Swizzle and BTRS cause they think they're helping making them big or have a hitter and it's like: "bro chill, they're successful and make tones of money anyway"
    It's different if it's a smaller artist since there makes more sense to want them to have more fame or recognition
    If I were to buy a vinyl I would do it in these cases, unless a record it's really really good
    And then to think that it harms the environment once it gets wasted, which is very likely, makes it even more infurating.
    Never thought it this way. Thanks for the info

  • @adenvue4310
    @adenvue4310 Год назад +7

    I don't understand buying variants of vinyls, but as a fan of K-pop, the album variants are kinda fun. Each version has a different collection of photos, and I get to collect cards of my favorite singers. But sometimes I wish kpop companies would just release the photobooks and cards without the cds. I don't want multiple cds of the same album.
    I really just want some fun aesthetic photo cards of my favorite artists to collect and give my phonecase some personality. Flipping through photobooks are fun as well. I can't speak for everyone, but I flip through my photobook collection almost every other week.
    But yeah, marketing different packaging variants to boost album sales is a silly idea. I don't care how much the album sells as long as the music is good.
    Also, if they want to, more artists, especially in the west, should consider having more photoshoots just because it would be fun to see, and they could sell the pictures in physical form.
    Imagine your favorite artist releases a book full of posters tied to an album they're releasing and getting to pick and choose which posters to hang up. There might be too much excess waste (so not the best solution to the waste problem), but I would love to just look at what the artists want us to think of when we listen to/think of them and their music.

  • @weihanwang
    @weihanwang Год назад +4

    For me, it's not that much different from people collecting baseball cards, etc.- just a hobby so don't make it sound so much like a sin🙄

  • @fortheloveofmusic860
    @fortheloveofmusic860 Год назад +1

    All this 💩 is just for the record companies. The CEO of the largest record company in the world recently received a one hundred million bonus, just after receiving an even bigger one about two years ago.
    As an avid cd and vinyl collector I've noticed that in the last couple of years really big artists started to flood the market with their "special" vinyl releases and that more younger kids buy in to this constructed hype as the good cash cows they are.

  • @koolssi
    @koolssi Год назад +1

    Kinda off-topic, but lovely Sundowning vinyl you have there.

  • @kurtramos9190
    @kurtramos9190 Год назад +1

    What do you think of King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard only selling physical copies of their albums on vinyl from now on, with cardboard outer sleeves?

  • @hxc4ever301
    @hxc4ever301 Год назад +2

    You can do what you want with your money, but if you can built a "house of cards" with albums, you got a problem and someone is exploiting it

  • @lguedes55
    @lguedes55 Год назад +1

    And they push this behavior by locking extra songs in certain versions and kinda forcing you to get them all to get all…

  • @RajaReign78
    @RajaReign78 Год назад

    Not exactly the same, but I collect hot wheels and some people buy every single variation of castings cuz they can then there are even people who buy every single one of the same car they see. I once asked a fellow collector why he felt the need to have 78 of the exact same Camaro casting; his extremely mature answer was because I can. 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️ biggest waste especially for another collector who might like oh just one of those Camaros. People are so selfish sometimes I can’t even wrap my head around the human race as a whole. 😐

  • @AtomicOpenHouse
    @AtomicOpenHouse Год назад +1

    My broke ass has been intentionally saving for 7 months to buy a 100 TTD (15 USD) Billy Squire Record and people are out here buying several of more expensive vinyls on a whim? The physical waste is hardly the biggest issue since there are far worse contributers; I'm just put off by the gross consumerist decadence. At least have the tact and awareness to buy a remaster instead of literally the same collection of songs.

  • @madame__bizarre
    @madame__bizarre Год назад

    To each their own, but personally I don't understand this trend of buying multiple editions of an album. I'd rather wait a bit until the deluxe/limited edition premieres and buy it if I know that it contains some good bonus tracks. That's all.

  • @albertmares6914
    @albertmares6914 Год назад +1

    Exactly. If you wanna buy some more albums, maybe support some local band other than the big ones.

  • @jenniferkate7167
    @jenniferkate7167 Год назад +1

    i know i don't need to buy all 8 folklore variants... but what if i want to? 😭 i enjoy variant collecting my all time faves, lana del rey and taylor swift. but it's gotten to a point where i don't know if i can afford to anymore. i miss the days of 2, maybe 3 variants?? where it was affordable and actually accomplishable to VC artists!! but releasing 5+ vinyl variants plus cd variants plus cassettes is getting beyond ridiculous.

    • @lauraslade5308
      @lauraslade5308 Год назад +1

      if you wait a little while after the release, you might be able to find second-hand ones online that are cheaper. Might not be top quality, but they'll still look nice for a collection.

    • @jenniferkate7167
      @jenniferkate7167 Год назад +1

      @@lauraslade5308 thanks! since making this comment i've decided im only VC-ing lana del rey. i'm stopping buying other vinyl :/

    • @lauraslade5308
      @lauraslade5308 Год назад

      @@jenniferkate7167 yeah, that makes sense! I'm sort of lucky that my favs aren't releasing anything at the moment lol. It saves me money 🤣

  • @gerardovazquez6441
    @gerardovazquez6441 Год назад +4

    Taylor doesn't sell records, Taylor sells merchandise
    She fostered a relationship of emotional dependency with her fans like no other artist. Taking advantage of that unconditionality to sell them 8 times the same product is ethically reprehensible, even if it did not cause environmental damage.

  • @singunn
    @singunn Год назад +3

    I'm not disagreeing with you, but I just wanted to inform you that BTS has been mislabeled as selling endless versions of their albums for a long time now when the most they've done is four versions, and for the last two albums (BE and Proof) they only released two versions, which is is honestly a lot less than most artists (especially cause they haven't released vinyls for any of their albums except Love Yourself: Her). With other kpop groups, however, a lot of them are guilty of having up to 20 versions that include up to 100 different randomised photocards (which is the main collectible that people buy kpop albums for). I've seen pictures of some groups' albums ending up on the street in massive loads because people buy for the photocards only to throw the albums themselves away. Such a huge waste. So I absolutely agree, but don't think BTS should be mentioned as one of the main villains in this case just cause they're the biggest kpop group and kpop is very guilty of doing this. But either way I see your point and fully agree, because the way these artists are taking advantage of their fans' need to collect everything and knowingly producing albums that are gonna be thrown away is a big problem.

  • @yaswanthvarma741
    @yaswanthvarma741 Год назад

    If that's the case.... Evening Streaming and touring cause pollution. To store billions of songs music streaming platforms use hard drive which emit carbon. Touring do increase greenhouse as artists have to travel through aeroplanes which emit greenhouse.

  • @tylerbailey9329
    @tylerbailey9329 Год назад +7

    Yup, consumerist culture continues to frustrate me as it gets ever more out of hand. Yay late-stage capitalism!