NO CRASH LATHE THREADING ALORIS short
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2023
- Threading to a shoulder is dangerous, scary, and prone to failure.
Here is a safe & easy way to do it.
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Ignore the complainers!! they watch video's just to pick them apart. The rest of us (majority) are here to learn from your years of experience. we greatly appreciate you taking the time to share with us
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Agreed. Ego driven anonymous opinion police.
Good grief, no kidding. So many “experts” out there get their jollies by trashing others.
Ignore the complainers. We were taught to either have sleeves above the elbow or secured around the wrist. Just nothing loose fitting by your hand. Great short and interesting subject. I always learn something when I watch the best shop teacher in action.
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Thanks always a pleasure watching your videos
Yes tight fitting cuffs, so that basically it is your skin there and nothing more. That actually helps as that first contact will tear the cuff, and not you. But has to be tight, and always done up.
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I got a length of elastic tube bandage. Cut two pieces to forearm length, hemmed the ends so it won't unravel on me.
Holds my overalls in nice and tight.
OSHA probably requires short sleeves in the workplace....But You are the Captain in your home machine shop.
Thank you Mr Pete. That tool holder is new to me. I appreciate you.
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Thats great Mr. Pete, thank you for teaching me, as a noob I am learning plenty from your channel. Thanks again.
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Thank you Mr. Pete, if it wasn't for you I would not even know how to turn my lathe on. Keep those videos coming and post drawings on your projects.
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Thanks Mr. Pete, your video's taught me how to single point thread about 10 years ago. I now have another method and new tooling to hunt for.
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I haven’t commented much in the past but I’ll try to make this one count. I never worked in a machine shop. Never had a shop class. About two years ago I found a nice lathe for the tight price, purchased said lathe not even knowing how to turn it on. EVERYTHING I’m capable of doing now “and it’s quite a bit” I can do because of your tutorials. I watch these videos and learn some little trick every time. I’m grateful for what you do and I appreciate you.
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You just made my day. Thank you very much for your comment. I’m very glad to know that I helped you.
Thank you for this. I have one of these holders but never thought about moving the cutting blade to the other position.
Thanks, Don
Mr Pete your living on the edge with that long sleeve shirt we really enjoy the short videos as well as the longer ones thanks again
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Great video, Mr Pete! I haven't seen a vintage threading tool like this used in 45 or so years! Cats whiskers in it's day, easy to sharpen and recenter! Thanks for your time and sharing! 👍😎✌️
Looks like their version of the Ifanger tooling system.
Great video, and as far as the sleeves they aren’t very loose and you clearly showed you kept your arms away from the major moving parts. People need to be very aware of their surroundings like you are in this case.
Regardless these videos have been fantastic; as a younger like myself I’ve been learning a lot from these and they are very straight to the point and very informative.
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Bravo, Mr. Pete!
I really like that Aloris threading tool
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I thread in reverse with a threaded spindle. Turn yourself a button that fits the shoulder inside the chuck body, and install a drawbar.
It isn't much of a chip load anyway on a smallish lathe with threaded spindle.
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That's a good idea! The additional load on the spindle threads via the drawbar pull should stop the chuck from turning (it can't spin off) and as you said, there's not a ton of pressure during thread cutting anyway.
Can't do that when threading any bar that protrudes into the spindle.
I have a logan 10" (threaded spindle) a S.B. 14-1/2" (threaded spindle) and a Monarch 10EE (D-1 camlock). There are other ways to "lock the chuck" like a set screw in the backplate but they are a little on the agressive side. Still, threading away is the only safe way to do it.
I didn’t just like the video, I will make the comment that I loved the video.
Thank you so much Mr. Pete for sharing your time with us.
You are The Shop Teacher that reminds us of better times that we had with our actual shop teachers we had growing up.
My first shop teacher was Mr. Laird in Big Spring Texas. A fine gentleman such as yourself.
You are the salt of our earth right now. I know you don’t seek out adoration in life. I’m just sure that is exactly what you are for so many of us.
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That grain structure photo is great, really gets home the point of how base material really matters
And how things like cheap rolled thread bolts and fastners actually end up being stronger than cut threads in the same material
Thanks for the video!
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I am not a machinist, lathe is a hobby for me, so I learn a lot with Mr. Pete, I already thought to do this but my inexperience make me think it is not correct do this way. I will asure chuck don't go away and try this. I saw a guy in UK that put the tool in rear the carriage.
Yes, that is a good method also
Well thank you mr. Pete! This has been my favorite way to to cut threads for many many years. I called cutting threads upside down and backwards Works absolutely great every time. Thanks again for another very entertaining video!
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Thanks, Mr. Pete. I bought this tool with my BXA post not realizing I could thread in reverse by repositioning the cutter. Having moved on from my Atlas 12" to a larger lathe, no issues with the chuck unthreading itself. I always hated that part of the Atlas.
Me too
That would be very handy in cases where the thread is very short such as watch case backs. I think I have noticed Clickspring using similar tooling.😊
I learned something new. I am the 1 in 10,000 that has the CXA-8 threading holder. I never knew it could be ran upside down. Thank you. Could you cove the side adjustment screws on this tool? I figure it is to adjust the helix angle, but how and when do you adjust it.
I live in Michigan so I too ware long sleeves and coats. Just make sure every thing is tucked in and buttoned tight. You can also tape the loose sleeves if needed.
Yes, for the helix angle I have never actually made that adjustment
@@mrpete222 i had to make the equivalent adjustment with a full profile laydown insert. I needed to buy a shim seat that reversed the helix angle from normal.
Most threads only have a degree or two of helix angle, so it isn't a big adjustment on the Aloris. I would use a surface plate and indicator to make the setting. You'll need feeler gages to set the angle.
Way cool. You’ve got talent sir!
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow, even I learned a new trick today! This is much easier than the other methods I know of. Wearing long sleeves, heck I've worked in shops that were bearly above freezing. We wore heavy coats and snowsuits more or less. You know it's cold when the coolant freezes in the sump... Seriously use extra caution around the spinning parts and we'd guard the chucks, especially the bigger ones, or if the jaws stuck past the body.
Sounds like my shop. - I replace the coolant in the horizontal band saw with RV Antifreeze in the winter. . We never did use the shop every day and it got REALLY cold in there when there was nobody there,,,,snd even wit 2-torpedos it's after lunch before you even think about taking off your coat and by the time i was warm enough for short sleeves it was time to go home. - You do what you got to do. (But even in the cold we never wore gloves around rotating machinery,,,,Get caught, get sent home for the rest of the day. Get caught twice and you get told not to come back.
Thanks for this lesson. The used lathe I purchased came with an Aloris 8, but really wasn't sure what it was all about. Now I know. I have learned so many things watching your channel. Thanks again and again!!
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Joe Pie is a big fan of this technique. Has several videos on it.
Love that man
Good morning Mr Pete. Always learning, thanks for keeping us safe. John
Was quite pleased to see the video just one more lesson for the students thank you.
I remember watching it in your first video. Thanks for sharing it again. I always learn something new.
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Another great video Mr. Pete. The still photos at the end showing differences in microstructure with forging, stamping, and casting was also really interesting to see.
Glad you enjoyed it. I was hoping lots of people would see that picture.
Like getting to the bonus round.
I have a CXA #8. I always wondered what that other mounting point was for.
Thank you. You remain my favorite RUclips shop teacher.
Thank you, I am proud to be your favorite
Thanks Mr. Pete for the video.
In my management career in an industrial plant more than once we had to sort out a few times that reason has to weigh the safety decisions. Sometimes a move to 'work safe' can create a more hazardous environment, especially when dealing with a 'man on a mission'. But then I was taught that growing up - my dad was a long time manager of safety in that same plant. LOL We humans are supposed to use our intelligence. Only trouble is - as Will Rogers once said - 'the trouble with common sense is that it is not so common'. Keep up the good work!
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Great info Mr Pete.
Trolls will be Trolls. Please keep the videos coming. I always learn something
The one and only MR PETE keeping threading drama-free since 2006. no crash, no trash, no pouting!! good class today tubalcain
Yes, no pouting today
What a great instructional video. I’ve heard of threading this way, but never tried it. Truthfully, I’ve always avoided threading and relied on taps. Who knows, maybe I’ll get adventurous. Take care.
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That's one very cool threading tool. Always learnin something new with Mr Pete. Don
Mr Pete your great I've learned so much valuable information from your videos. 👍👍👍
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wonderful video Mr Pete, cheers from Orlando, Paul
Many thanks!
@@mrpete222 always...your friend , Paul
Cool - I have one of those holders but did not know you could do that - THANK YOU!!!
Another great video! Thank you for all you do and everything that you have taught me!
So nice of you
Love your info.
I liked the video because I always wanted to have a small machine shop and wood shop but never had my priorities in line I suppose but I still like to Learn new things 👍
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Another good Safety minded video even before my coffee. In the going on 13 years of viewing your videos I've found you to be a very Safety minded machinist. I'm also guilty of making a comment in the early years of viewing, I think it shows that some viewers are Safety minded such as yourself. Take care Lyle
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As a teacher the first thing Mr Pete has ever espoused was safety in the workshop, showing you all the things you can do to work safely, and even the things that are unsafe, and how to avoid them.
@@SeanBZASafety is always important but when you're supervising teenagers with no experience I'm sure that's magnified tenfold and you really want every advantage you can get when it comes to safety to make up for the elevated level of background chaos...
Thanks for the info Lyle! I have the exact same tool. Bought it used about 10 years ago for $30. Never knew those other mounting holes are for threading away from the chuck!
Interesting tooling and interesting video. Tnx Mr. Pete
I am one of your constant viewers that does own an Aloris threading tool and enjoy using it . I also have a
Diamond tool holder that I bought when they first appeared ( and use regularly ).Thanks very much for your videos .
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Great instructional video on rhreading simplified. The CNC lathes dont have this issue, but as for the manual lathe operators. To the old dogs, Give it a try, first thay will scratch their heads, then they will try it! method will save you heart ache and pain, and mabe even your job!
This is a great example if working smarter, not harder.
Thanks again MrPete!
Glad it was helpful!
I learned both inside and outside single point threading from your videos (Machine Shop Tips #23 was one in 2011). They are top notch! You are an excellent teacher and creator. Trolls will be trolls. Most of them are bitter know-it-alls who have never actually created ANYTHING except hard feelings.
Thank you for watching on commenting. I could not agree more about the trolls.
Mr Pete...please don’t consider complaints/ pointless criticism. We watch for the object of your teaching. It’s always clear, concise, and well considered. You’re a good man, screw the progs.
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Thanks Mr. Pete, never seen this before. Good stuff!
"Mr. Pete, your original RUclips shop teacher." Yes sir, that is the Mr. Pete we all love and learn from. Interesting tooling, I've never seen that one. Thanks for a new method, I'll have to try it.
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I've got one of those threading tools I will have to try this.
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Great video
Very interesting.Thank you for your time.
Logic evades some people. I don't like people who try to make their problem my problem. Keep sharing your skills and knowledge. Keep the tie clipped high ✌️
Thanks. I have not seen new posts from you recently. Glad to see you active.
I have been releasing three or four videos per week
@@mrpete222 sorry, I guess that I missed them or maybe youtube is not sending them to my notification.
I always enjoy your videos! Keep up the great work and God bless you!
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I've been watching your videos from the start and I can't believe anyone would complain about long sleeves. Not everyone lives in Texas or has a benefit of a heated workshop. Thank you for a great video.
I agree, I don’t understand why I get beaten to death by that comment. You would think they were paying to watch these videos, L O L.
That's a cool tool Mr. Pete. THX!!
A great way to keep from causing damage to the machine & your work !
While in Machine Trades School in 1982 & 1983 we were only taught how to chase threads from right to left.
If our instructors had known about this method, I would say it would have saved a lot of machine crashes as all of us were newbie’s and dangerous as we were learning !! 🤗
nice short
Thanks for the demonstration.
You are welcome!
I was an engineer aboard ships for over 3 decades. Safety is important of course but being aware of your surroundings is key. Sometimes you must wear clothes to work.
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Great to see a more civilized way to do what can be a sketchy task at times. Very well received.
Thank you Mr Pete
Oh cool, I have this exact Aloris threading tool / tool holder, I'm like Mr Pete! 🙂
Appreciate the video on a new way to use it!
Glad to help
great video Pete! When I did my apprenticeship the tooling dept. required lab coats and ties once you got to your 3rd yr they gave you a tie bar that was in the shape of a mic.
I loved it. I have that same Aloris tool. I hate threading to a shoulder. I will do it this way next time. Thanks for your efforts. Many of us are learning from you. You are a national treasure.
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You're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for sharing.
I appreciate that!
I like it and will try it today. Thank you
Have fun!
Thank You Lyle... As always U R consistently consistent, 👁enjoy all U have to offer (yes I have crashed many times).....TM
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There is always going to be someone who knows best so just ignore them. That was a good threading demo. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video
I have long sleeved shirts that have dozens of little burn spots from hot chips. Better that than my skin. Being aware and cautious goes a long way when tempting the norm.
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Cool idea.
what an excellent video, the threading technique avoids all types of accidents. As for wearing a long-sleeved shirt, dont be careful. As long as you don't get too close to the moving parts of the lathe, there is no problem. thank you teacher for sharing your knowledge
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Great stuff Lyle! I never knew such a tool existed. great info as usual. thank you. Those may start appearing in local tool stores if demanded.
I hope so!
Good video Mr. Pete and I have been a machinist for over 50 years and have chased threads on many parts in my day and I do have one of the Aloris threading tools in my home shop that I use on my Atlas lathes l watch all your videos and we are always on the same page, Thanks for sharing !
Right on
About 20 years ago I built a cutter out of high speed steel that did pretty much the same thing. It was admittedly less configurable as the angle couldn't be simply swapped around. Something that people who are new to machining don't always consider is how the trailing edge of the cutter is going to be positioned in reference to the work. With a reverse threading tool it isn't as simple as just turning it over because the rest of the tool runs as something of a tangent to the threads. Now that I've seen this video, I may be able to make a revised version of the tool I made so long ago.
Thx Mr Pete, I never would have figured out what the other position on the Aloris #8 holder was for. I had been thinking it was for use on a rear mount post
I will have to have one of these now 🤣 Thanks Mr. Pete
always great work. thank you i have the tool
Thank you Mr.Pete, I was able to snag one (new) off Fleabay before the rush !!!
love your work, best regards, Steve
Excellent!
Excellent video as always. Have a great weekend
Thanks, you too!
Ha I've got the Aloris BXA8...didn't know what it was used for. Love your videos!
That's a slick tool for cutting threads, definitely handy for cutting right up to the shoulder. Very nice, Tubalcain.
Another great video...That is the only way I single point threads to a shoulder...less drama and more enjoyable.
Exactly!
Appreciate your efforts and subject matter materials. They are instructive, entertaining and appropriate to anyone involved in a machine/home shop activities. Keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you like them!
Nice work Mr.Pete. Excellent tip for the home shop machinists. Hope you’re well. Regards Aaron
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I like that method. Worrying about a crash is stressful. When I get a better lathe I will give that a try.
Thank you for the video. I am making a lot of small parts and usually threading to a shoulder. In tiny threads the chips obstruct the view and overshooting the relief groove is easy to do when threading towards the chuck. Early on I mounted the tool upside down and tried reverse threading. It is my go to technique. I also do that with internal threading. It is so much easier to see what is happening inside the bore when the tool is on the back wall.
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THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO!! I Actually have that exact threading tool holder {but unfortunately no cutting tool} and couldn't figure out what it was used for. Now that I know, I will try and find a cutter for it. Thanks for sharing your many years of hard-earned knowledge with me and everyone else. To he%& with the trolls!
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Good job
I have that BXA 8! I’ll have to try this out!
Good Morning Mr. Pete, I didn't know that these were designed for reverse threading by moving the position of the H.S.S. blade. Excellent share of knowledge, Thank You.
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Aloha Lyle I do most of my single point threading this way, as most of the time it is to a shoulder. The only difference is I use a radius cutter for the relief cut to help with the stress point. I agree that you ignore the complainers, they haven't done this most of their lives therefor are experts! Theory is good up to a point, but eventually you have to get in the water....😏
So true, get in the water
Thanks for sharing and the details. I'm confused about how you start cutting and remain in the groove you started. Excuse my ignorance...
There is a dial on the lathe that tracks the carriage. I believe it is called the "threading dial".
You could enter "How to use a threading dial" into the search bar.