I have the P11 Pro first Gen. I was overseas when my laptop went bluescreen and I was using the tablet for Kindle and books. and movies. I don't keep that on my biz laptop. I rapidly got up to speed and installed Office and apps I normally use and i was shocked how capable this laplet is. I have not replaced my laptop. What I like is the stability, sometime I forgot and have 15 apps open and 20 tabs open in browser and it never crashes.The keyboard is fantastic. It's a must have. I can't imagine how much better it will sound. The touch navigation swipes such as cut and paste had a slight learning curve. The only problem I had with the tabliet was I couild not print to any HP printer. I worked on it for days. Finally I found a driver from a private company that was $15 I paid it and it worked flawlessly Serioiusly, HP, just buy that guy out with your crummy in house drivers. You can leave your laptop behind. I think the P12 is too big. When I travel overseas I'm only allowed 7kg Laptop uses half of that. I don't use the pen too much. I wish they ported Procreate to android. Also I think the P series is a bit too expensive.
I have a question. Are you able to see the screen while out in bright sunlight? With or without a screen protector? I ride the bus & like to read on my tablet a lot. But the sun can drive me nuts.
The P11 Pro seems like a fine option. I heard the thing with previous models where text is sometimes blurry has been drastically improved and same can be said for the speakers. All in all for it's price range this is the best option. The P12 Pro on the other hand, is pretty close to Samsung's territory...
Thx for de vídeo Brian! It was very helpful indeed! Got yourself one more sub. I really thought this p11pro gen2 was coming witha fingerprint scanner, its a shame but it's not a game changer for me. Thank you again! For the price this gen2 p11pro seems unbeatable so far.
Can you also do a side by side comparison of the newly launched Lenovo Tab P12 vs the Lenovo P11 Gen 2? (both non-Pro versions, both released in 2023) TYSM 👍🏼
Very good video Brian! I just have one question... which screen looks better in daylight, OLED or AMOLED? I see from your video that the image on the AMOLED screen of the Tab P12 Pro is darker. Thank you.
There is an 8gb ram and 256gb available in the UK.... I've just got it and really pleased with it. It's £349 here. Just annoying the keyboard not available at launch and my folio case has no date for despatch.
Hi mate. Can I ask where you got it from please? I'm looking to get something bigger than my Galaxy tab s which I purchased way back in 2014. I only use it for watching stuff that's it! I've been leaning towards the bigger 12 pro as it'll be for the kitchen and maybe in bed sometimes. And does it let you watch amazon prime in HD?
@@Facu1ty1855 Got it from Lenovo UK, currently £396 but a further 10% off if you sign up with email, also a free smart clock if that's your kind of thing. And yes Amazon is in HD
Casuals usually just think more bass = better sound. Good sound is really a good balance between lows mids and highs. The sound test here showed a serious lack of highs in the p11 where the p12 has so much more detail in the highs.
Thank you for the video comparison, as I am indeed in need of a tablet but is it just me or is the P11 Pro Gen 2 (OLED) looks more brighter than the Tab P12 Pro (AMOLED) but the P12 looks more sharper?!
Ordered the P11 Pro Gen 2 and it's arriving later this week. It's funny how Lenovo doesn't even have the keyboard case or the cheaper Magnetic Smart Case in their webstore. I had to order the latter from Giztop and it's on its way shipping from China which takes weeks for arrival. I chose the P11 Pro for the affordability and wonderful OLED display. Samsung Tab S8 lineup has gotten overpriced and am glad Lenovo has these offerings. Just know that when ordering from Lenovo U.S. that it's not the most streamlined in finding accessories for this new product.
@@Haymaker72 really good, the screen is excellent for the price and the sound has good bass. No problems except it’s tough to find accessories when i got it
Can you connect both tablets to an external display? I heard that you couldn't on the P11. would be a deal breaker for anyone using it as a business tablet.
Numbers in benchmarks are too far apart. In another video, you stated that P11 Pro had 717 single and 1926 in multi. Video is "P11 Pro vs Tab M10 Plus".
I switched from ipad, to fire hd, and to lenovo and i loke the lenovs tab p11 plus i have. Its bit the leo but i loved the tabket when i got it last year
In Europe (Germany) currently I can only find the 8GB + 256GB version of the P11 Pro actually, for 420 euros. Plus I can see a P11 Pro Gen2 + keyboard + pen bundle for 550 euros; maybe I'll go with that.
Is the top bezel on the P12 Pro wider than the bottom (when in landscape)? It always appears that way in videos; if it is, I assume it's due to the front-facing camera.
is the p11 pro 2nd gen worth it for university? Like de pen usage and everything... or is it better to maybe spend a bit more and get something else (like the p12 pro or samsung)?
@@FishBeeProductions it would be mainly to study (like u would do with paper, but in the tablet). im also in doubt between the p11 pro 2nd gen and the Samsung s8, as I know for sure the Samsung is good for what I want (and also comes with the pen). However, where I am, the p11 is almost half the price of the s8, and that's the part I believe is a bit odd.
From some other reviews I've seen the precision pen 3 has some problems with jittery diagonal line on the p12 tho haven't seen hide no hair of this problem with the p11 pro gen 2. Wile this may or may not matter to you I'd take this into consideration when looking at the difference between these two tablets.
I like the lenovo brand but i wish they offered options that are more that 128 gb of memory and go up to 256 to 512 like the ipad and few others. i have the p11 pro and still love it but memory is something i wish had more.
Ok.. So.. just to clarify.. i can't watch 4k streams on the p11 .. Right?.. Only FHD ? If i want to watch 4k streams I'd have to go with the p12 ? Anyone knows why? I mean the resolution on both displays is pretty similar.. So.. why?
@@poki6041 wouldn't it be downscaling ?.. even if out of every 16 pixels (4x4 ..=4k).. We'd get 9 (3x3 =QHD) .. it would still be a lot better than only 4 (2x2 = FHD)
@@r3troJunk3y more like Downsampling Using a higher resolution For making a high quality lower resolution with a better bitrate per image and pixel beter AA but youtube doesn't do that, you need a specific algorithm
@@r3troJunk3y so if you have a 1080p screen and choose 1440p or 2560p ext~ you gonna see 0 difference in quality But your video gonna "lag" Because youtube gonna run the video in this resolution even if you screen can't display the full resolution or making optimisation with it
Higher resolutions than your display still make sense on apps like RUclips because with higher resolution, RUclips also transmits in higher Bitrate, which WILL make the image look better, even if you're watching on a full HD screen
So the Tab P11 Pro Gen doesn't have a finger print scanner, face unlock, headphone jack, and LCD display? What else? 🤔 but it's OLED, compared to P12 pro
looking at the P12 closer, the bezel corners are larger and more rounded than the P11, meaning it cuts out more of the video area. and the status bar looks too small for the P12--look how close the time is to the edge... yuck! the bezel corners should be the same exact curve size as the P11, which is the correct size. what an oversight! i cant unsee that anymore it looks so ugly lmao
I bought the p11 pro (2nd gen) you've not mentioned a massive potential deal breaker. The UI transitioning to tab overview is so buggy, jarring and with terrible animation it makes the tablet almost unbearable to use. This problem occurs in traditional mode and productivity more. Productivity mode is also buggy. For example, if you maximise the size of an application, there is no way of closing it because the x sign is hidden. Also, battery drain when idllng was 25% through the nigh!The bits of android 12 they haven't touched are great, but they have ruined what could have been a great tablet with their own shoddy implementation. It's worth talking about weaknesses in your review more thoroughly. On the plus side, it is fast, smooth and the sound is great. The iPad 8th generation has a better, sharper screen with deeper blacks
You can close the maximised window in productivity mode by swiping down from the top of the screen or by holding down the app icon. I think that the battery life has gotten much better after using it for while. I think that the biggest flam is the fact that this is using regular android 12 instead of 12L. Some of the apps don't work well on the lange screen. Also it would have been nice to be able to purchase the keyboard at launch.
I have the P11 Pro first Gen. I was overseas when my laptop went bluescreen and I was using the tablet for Kindle and books. and movies. I don't keep that on my biz laptop. I rapidly got up to speed and installed Office and apps I normally use and i was shocked how capable this laplet is. I have not replaced my laptop. What I like is the stability, sometime I forgot and have 15 apps open and 20 tabs open in browser and it never crashes.The keyboard is fantastic. It's a must have. I can't imagine how much better it will sound. The touch navigation swipes such as cut and paste had a slight learning curve. The only problem I had with the tabliet was I couild not print to any HP printer. I worked on it for days. Finally I found a driver from a private company that was $15 I paid it and it worked flawlessly Serioiusly, HP, just buy that guy out with your crummy in house drivers. You can leave your laptop behind. I think the P12 is too big. When I travel overseas I'm only allowed 7kg Laptop uses half of that. I don't use the pen too much. I wish they ported Procreate to android. Also I think the P series is a bit too expensive.
How the heck did you track that driver down? I have a knack for that sort of thing, and even I find that impressive.
you can always use infinite painter
I have a question. Are you able to see the screen while out in bright sunlight?
With or without a screen protector?
I ride the bus & like to read on my tablet a lot. But the sun can drive me nuts.
Do you have the 8gb variant?
The P11 Pro seems like a fine option.
I heard the thing with previous models where text is sometimes blurry has been drastically improved and same can be said for the speakers.
All in all for it's price range this is the best option.
The P12 Pro on the other hand, is pretty close to Samsung's territory...
Thx for de vídeo Brian! It was very helpful indeed! Got yourself one more sub. I really thought this p11pro gen2 was coming witha fingerprint scanner, its a shame but it's not a game changer for me. Thank you again! For the price this gen2 p11pro seems unbeatable so far.
Thanks, glad I could help!
Which one is best for note taking for university student?
Can you also do a side by side comparison of the newly launched Lenovo Tab P12 vs the Lenovo P11 Gen 2? (both non-Pro versions, both released in 2023) TYSM 👍🏼
Very good video Brian! I just have one question... which screen looks better in daylight, OLED or AMOLED? I see from your video that the image on the AMOLED screen of the Tab P12 Pro is darker. Thank you.
P12 pro might be slightly better but both are good in my opinion
The Gap Screen Size between of Them are so Different although it's only about 11inch & 12inch!!! @.@
There is an 8gb ram and 256gb available in the UK.... I've just got it and really pleased with it. It's £349 here. Just annoying the keyboard not available at launch and my folio case has no date for despatch.
oh nice!
Hi mate. Can I ask where you got it from please? I'm looking to get something bigger than my Galaxy tab s which I purchased way back in 2014. I only use it for watching stuff that's it! I've been leaning towards the bigger 12 pro as it'll be for the kitchen and maybe in bed sometimes. And does it let you watch amazon prime in HD?
@@Facu1ty1855 Got it from Lenovo UK, currently £396 but a further 10% off if you sign up with email, also a free smart clock if that's your kind of thing. And yes Amazon is in HD
@Dave Gillespie awesome stuff mate thanks 😊 👍🏻
Casuals usually just think more bass = better sound. Good sound is really a good balance between lows mids and highs. The sound test here showed a serious lack of highs in the p11 where the p12 has so much more detail in the highs.
I lean towards extra bass but not so much you can't hear everything else.
Thank you for the video comparison, as I am indeed in need of a tablet but is it just me or is the P11 Pro Gen 2 (OLED) looks more brighter than the Tab P12 Pro (AMOLED) but the P12 looks more sharper?!
Could just be my camera in person they look very similar
@@FishBeeProductions I think your right! thank you!!!
Ordered the P11 Pro Gen 2 and it's arriving later this week. It's funny how Lenovo doesn't even have the keyboard case or the cheaper Magnetic Smart Case in their webstore. I had to order the latter from Giztop and it's on its way shipping from China which takes weeks for arrival. I chose the P11 Pro for the affordability and wonderful OLED display. Samsung Tab S8 lineup has gotten overpriced and am glad Lenovo has these offerings. Just know that when ordering from Lenovo U.S. that it's not the most streamlined in finding accessories for this new product.
Do you have a link to the cover ? I got the tablet as well.
It fits perfectly. But with 1 flaw: propping it up to view media, the angle is too steep and it doesn't have any adjustments.
How has your experience been?
@@Haymaker72 really good, the screen is excellent for the price and the sound has good bass. No problems except it’s tough to find accessories when i got it
Will you compare the P11 Pro Gen 2 vs. The Galaxy Tab S8 11inch?
your little friend reminds me of my little doro. she passed in 2012 after living 16 years. I miss her :(
Wow, sorry to hear but at least you got 16 years to enjoy with her
Hello, can both tabs be projected to a screen projector (ex. Epson) via hdmi cable? Do we need a hub for it?
yes for both, usb c to hdmi is one way to do it
So Wich one good?
Can you connect both tablets to an external display? I heard that you couldn't on the P11. would be a deal breaker for anyone using it as a business tablet.
yes you can on this P11 Pro Gen 2, i don't believe you could on the previous Gen 1 model.
@FishBeeProductions Thanks a lot for the input, man! Awesome videos!
Does precision pen 3 work on p11 pro (gen 2) ? congratulations for the great video.
Yes it does and is better than precision pen 2
@@FishBeeProductions Thanks for the feedback
Was it for just me or does the back of p11 pro gen 2 feel like cardboard... Which can be pressed slightly?
Numbers in benchmarks are too far apart. In another video, you stated that P11 Pro had 717 single and 1926 in multi. Video is "P11 Pro vs Tab M10 Plus".
I switched from ipad, to fire hd, and to lenovo and i loke the lenovs tab p11 plus i have. Its bit the leo but i loved the tabket when i got it last year
Do either of these tablets have gyro for gaming?
In your opinion which one is better in terms of viewing quality
p12 pro be a little better
How long it will support software update? Thanks
for p11 pro lenovo are promised support until android 14 and 3 years for security patches
@@tyazhkin so i guess samsung is the better deal if i am assured 4 years
In Europe (Germany) currently I can only find the 8GB + 256GB version of the P11 Pro actually, for 420 euros. Plus I can see a P11 Pro Gen2 + keyboard + pen bundle for 550 euros; maybe I'll go with that.
Hi my friend i bought the p11 pro he has a global rom how i install the Chinese version so i can receive update OTA???
Hey, I've P11 pro 1st gen, should I upgrade to 12 pro to get extra resolution and brightness?
p12 pro would be better in most categories, but i'm wondering if there's a new version coming out later this year
Is the top bezel on the P12 Pro wider than the bottom (when in landscape)? It always appears that way in videos; if it is, I assume it's due to the front-facing camera.
It’s not.
Amoled or OLED ? P11pro or p11pro (2gen)
is the p11 pro 2nd gen worth it for university? Like de pen usage and everything... or is it better to maybe spend a bit more and get something else (like the p12 pro or samsung)?
could depend on what types of stuff you'll be doing but it should be fine in my opinion
@@FishBeeProductions it would be mainly to study (like u would do with paper, but in the tablet). im also in doubt between the p11 pro 2nd gen and the Samsung s8, as I know for sure the Samsung is good for what I want (and also comes with the pen). However, where I am, the p11 is almost half the price of the s8, and that's the part I believe is a bit odd.
From some other reviews I've seen the precision pen 3 has some problems with jittery diagonal line on the p12 tho haven't seen hide no hair of this problem with the p11 pro gen 2. Wile this may or may not matter to you I'd take this into consideration when looking at the difference between these two tablets.
I just tested that against the precision pen 2 and the 3 is way better on P11 Pro Gen 2. Haven't compared on 12 Pro yet.
@@FishBeeProductions dude this review is months old and you replied and answered a question I had. That’s awesome dude
Your model name is teclado logitech ??
Wait isn't this the p12 as they don't have a p12 pro right?
Miałem okazję troszkę taniej kupić P11 a coś podpowiadało że to jeszcze nie ten model. P12 są duże różnice. Dobrze nie kupiłem.
I miss yoga series. I would love to update to a Yoga 13 with Snapdragon 8 gen 3
are there any other pens which work with the p11 pro gen 2
Hi!! Can it receive and make calls?
Will on both the p11 pro & p12 the price went down
Does anyone know if the p11 pro can act as a second display via usb c?
Yes, it Works 👍🏼
@@LusoVitalis thansk
I like the lenovo brand but i wish they offered options that are more that 128 gb of memory and go up to 256 to 512 like the ipad and few others. i have the p11 pro and still love it but memory is something i wish had more.
Thank you bro, does that keyboard supported Arabic on tablet tab p12 pro
Name of this games
Ok.. So.. just to clarify.. i can't watch 4k streams on the p11 .. Right?.. Only FHD ?
If i want to watch 4k streams I'd have to go with the p12 ?
Anyone knows why?
I mean the resolution on both displays is pretty similar.. So.. why?
It's a bug,it' pretty useless
If your screen doesn't have 4k pixels it's useless of looking video in 4k
Oversampling doesn't work on video .
@@poki6041 wouldn't it be downscaling ?.. even if out of every 16 pixels (4x4 ..=4k).. We'd get 9 (3x3 =QHD) .. it would still be a lot better than only 4 (2x2 = FHD)
@@r3troJunk3y more like
Downsampling
Using a higher resolution
For making a high quality lower resolution with a better bitrate per image and pixel beter AA but youtube doesn't do that, you need a specific algorithm
@@r3troJunk3y so if you have a 1080p screen and choose 1440p or 2560p ext~ you gonna see 0 difference in quality
But your video gonna "lag"
Because youtube gonna run the video in this resolution even if you screen can't display the full resolution or making optimisation with it
Higher resolutions than your display still make sense on apps like RUclips because with higher resolution, RUclips also transmits in higher Bitrate, which WILL make the image look better, even if you're watching on a full HD screen
Is lenovo p11 pro/ p11 pro gen 2 tablet, can replace laptop?
depends what you are doing, if most things are online then maybe but typically you can do more with real laptops vs tablets or chromebooks
Word is Tab 11 Pro Gen 2 gets uncomfortably hot, any truth to that?
I haven't noticed on mine. What are they doing when it gets too hot?
Bonjour, pourrais-tu nous dire quel stylet il faut avoir pour la tablette p11 pro gen 2.
Merci pour ta vidéo
Precision pen 3 is best but also works with precision pen 2
Did he say that you could watch 4K content on both devices?
i meant upscaled 4k youtube videos
What is ur game pad?
Xbox controller
the problem are android updates long term... i might get a samsung S tablet in the end
The Pro 2022 has GPS when the P12 Pro doesnt. I feel stupid for buying the P12 Pro now
I believe the p12 pro only has GPS if its the cellular version
@@FishBeeProductions Yeah and the GSM version of this tab is nowhere to be found despite being advertised at launch
So the Tab P11 Pro Gen doesn't have a finger print scanner, face unlock, headphone jack, and LCD display? What else? 🤔 but it's OLED, compared to P12 pro
It has face unlock.
P12 Pro is also OLED.
@@nSpiraliArchitectb I think it's AMOLED if I remember correctly
looking at the P12 closer, the bezel corners are larger and more rounded than the P11, meaning it cuts out more of the video area. and the status bar looks too small for the P12--look how close the time is to the edge... yuck! the bezel corners should be the same exact curve size as the P11, which is the correct size. what an oversight! i cant unsee that anymore it looks so ugly lmao
I bought the p11 pro (2nd gen) you've not mentioned a massive potential deal breaker. The UI transitioning to tab overview is so buggy, jarring and with terrible animation it makes the tablet almost unbearable to use. This problem occurs in traditional mode and productivity more. Productivity mode is also buggy. For example, if you maximise the size of an application, there is no way of closing it because the x sign is hidden. Also, battery drain when idllng was 25% through the nigh!The bits of android 12 they haven't touched are great, but they have ruined what could have been a great tablet with their own shoddy implementation. It's worth talking about weaknesses in your review more thoroughly. On the plus side, it is fast, smooth and the sound is great. The iPad 8th generation has a better, sharper screen with deeper blacks
Will you be keeping your P11 Pro or returning it back to Lenovo? Those software issues you mentioned has got me concerned now.
You can close the maximised window in productivity mode by swiping down from the top of the screen or by holding down the app icon. I think that the battery life has gotten much better after using it for while. I think that the biggest flam is the fact that this is using regular android 12 instead of 12L. Some of the apps don't work well on the lange screen. Also it would have been nice to be able to purchase the keyboard at launch.
Can you play 4k video on RUclips?
Wait,Ipad lcd got deeper black than oled ?
@@mantapdjiwa9768 yeah he doesn't know what he's talking about. you can't get much blacker blacks than when the pixels are off lmfao.
2:22: You should put the natural videos or human videos instead of your hands video
yeah it gets tricky with what i can and can't show on youtube before i get in trouble with youtubes guidelines
The screen of P11 Pro is better.
How about the non-pro?
the p11 is good quality for a more affordable tablet but i believe it won't get as many software updates
@@FishBeeProductions What a shame. Thanks
Both has the pink screen
Not sure what you mean
@@FishBeeProductions has this pink shade same as on my pro 2
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nice review
gg well played . . @->--
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