Lo mismo digo, no me gusta para nada esos torneos, pero bueno. Por querer hacerlo deporte le sacaron todo y sus técnicas reales, si, el karate fue creado para la guerra y se que el torneo no es una guerra pero arruinaron la cultura del karate limitando a sus contrincantes, que malas decisiones, yo no hubiera aprobado eso, prefiero mil y millones de veces los torneos del kyokushin
Point Contact champions regularly get beat up in street self-defense situations. I've never heard of a full-contact pro fighter getting beat up in a self-defense situation. This is not real martial arts. It's like playing flag football, only worse. You're deceiving yourself into thinking you're "good" at fighting.
Points fighting is just one aspect of karate training. These same competitors also train year round in bunkai, prepare for Ikken Hissatsu, do physical conditioning etc. Points fighting trains mobility, speed, distance, timing, athleticism, attack control, reaction time, strategy, agility, footwork etc in a safer training and competitive context. You can certainly train much more if you are not damaging yourself constantly. If every bout is full on, those concussions, joint/organ/venous injuries certainly add up. You must also train this hardcore fighting but everything is about balance, training longevity, and having respectful/trustworthy training partners (with that said it still takes guts to compete at a high level in points fighting since you can still get damaged... it can be very difficult to avoid getting or giving a solid hit when you are both moving quickly and countering. Also some competitors are super human beasts. Also takes guts to fight well when you are tired from the previous rounds with earlier fights). All aspects of karate training are valid. I have trained with karate masters with truly deadly abilities and have amazing power and are super tough highly conditioned practitioners who have been points fighting champions at some stage in their karate journey. A key differentiator between quality points fighting and weak karate is only scoring points that have the potential to do real harm if the safety is switched off. Personally I think a karate practitioner with the power to kill you with one hit (kime, kihon, tameshiwari training), combined with vital points targeting and grappling (bunkai), combined with well honed movement and athletic skills emphasised by points fighting would be one heck of a scary opponent in a real fight or on a battlefield... Also in civilised society, the ability to defend/evade/counter opponent without doing too much harm is also desirable and benefits from points fighting skills such as attack control and moving around your opponent etc
Deje el karate porque a pesar de tener decenas de tecnicas en kumite solo puntuan algunas, los jueces nunca dan punto a una yoko o maegeri menos a una patada voladora aunque entre, limitan a sus competidores por ende su propio estilo
¡Felicitaciones por la gran participación y el excelente torneo! Para el próximo desafío, recomiendo practicar e incorporar la aplicación del Yoko Geri Keage en su variante deportiva. Esta técnica de contraataque es ideal para frenar y desestabilizar al oponente que realiza un ataque lineal y frontal. Aquí comparto un video que ilustra su ejecución: ruclips.net/video/wb5MdlDcx-I/видео.html&ab_channel=KARATE55"
Mucho escandalo, mucha pirueta y poco realismo. No hay continuidad, a cada intercambio (al punto) rapidamente se pausa la pelea. Un kiokushin o muay thai los pulverisarian en menos de 30 seg. No puede llamarse arte "marcial" esta gimnacia.
@fernandopessoa2809 siempre nombran ese🤣 sabiendo que lo adapto al muay y siempre persistió en la guardia baja por la que siempre se comió sendos rectos de boxeo
lo del karate es verdad pero en la guardia te equivocas la guardia baja como tu la llamas es una guardia que muchos peleadores de mma usan independiente si vienen del karate o no, hay q entender q la única forma de pararse no es con las manos pegadas al mentón como lo creen todos los pugilistas, muchos han sido efectivos con una guardia más abierta y repito no necesariamente la del karate.@@rip301v
Son las reglas deportivas. En el dojo se pelea más realista. A mi tampoco me gustan las peleas por puntos, pero te da una precisión y velocidad tremenda.
Wonderful fights... muchas gracias... combates de maravillas! Un saludo.
Regardless who won...viva la chile viva 👍 beautiful country beautiful people beautiful karate 👌😊
En este tipo de torneo Japón tiene la fama de ser *localista* a pesar del mito del honor japones.
It was interesting to see fights
Es karate???! O saltitos chicos y aveces pegar???
Lo mismo digo, no me gusta para nada esos torneos, pero bueno. Por querer hacerlo deporte le sacaron todo y sus técnicas reales, si, el karate fue creado para la guerra y se que el torneo no es una guerra pero arruinaron la cultura del karate limitando a sus contrincantes, que malas decisiones, yo no hubiera aprobado eso, prefiero mil y millones de veces los torneos del kyokushin
C'est le physionomie karate sport 😮.Mais l'absence du karate au sens propre du terme.
Que mala actitud de ese Rodrigo lo peor y la barra chilena cree que está en un estadio de fútbol
Paso lo mismo en 2017, no aprenden que hay deportes donde se debe mantener el silencio como en el tenis.
Rodrigo le falta disciplina, no tuvo un buen maestro .🇯🇵OSS!!!
cant agree more. sure is a good fighter but lacks humble, the whole chilean team is making the whole arena a circus.
igual ganamos jajajajajajjajajajajja para que arda el hoyo y a todos los demas....
@@mygale707 que pelea viste?
Awesome
centenas de movimentos existentes no KARATE e todos os combates se resumem em OISUKI e GUIAKIZUKI .... lamentável. oss
12:34 sacale la conchetumareee! jajajajaja
The referee was Pat Morita.
Nah u jokin
Los jueces son de diferentes paises
No Kicks?use punch
Ipoon de Rodrigo!!!
Point Contact champions regularly get beat up in street self-defense situations.
I've never heard of a full-contact pro fighter getting beat up in a self-defense situation.
This is not real martial arts. It's like playing flag football, only worse. You're deceiving yourself into thinking you're "good" at fighting.
they're making out they're fighting...
Martial arts were not made to score points. Karate is dead, all that's left is to bury it.
Karate is no dead look for karate combat for example or Kyokushin
I agree, but luckily there are still people who do karate properly.
Points fighting is just one aspect of karate training. These same competitors also train year round in bunkai, prepare for Ikken Hissatsu, do physical conditioning etc. Points fighting trains mobility, speed, distance, timing, athleticism, attack control, reaction time, strategy, agility, footwork etc in a safer training and competitive context. You can certainly train much more if you are not damaging yourself constantly. If every bout is full on, those concussions, joint/organ/venous injuries certainly add up. You must also train this hardcore fighting but everything is about balance, training longevity, and having respectful/trustworthy training partners (with that said it still takes guts to compete at a high level in points fighting since you can still get damaged... it can be very difficult to avoid getting or giving a solid hit when you are both moving quickly and countering. Also some competitors are super human beasts. Also takes guts to fight well when you are tired from the previous rounds with earlier fights). All aspects of karate training are valid. I have trained with karate masters with truly deadly abilities and have amazing power and are super tough highly conditioned practitioners who have been points fighting champions at some stage in their karate journey. A key differentiator between quality points fighting and weak karate is only scoring points that have the potential to do real harm if the safety is switched off. Personally I think a karate practitioner with the power to kill you with one hit (kime, kihon, tameshiwari training), combined with vital points targeting and grappling (bunkai), combined with well honed movement and athletic skills emphasised by points fighting would be one heck of a scary opponent in a real fight or on a battlefield... Also in civilised society, the ability to defend/evade/counter opponent without doing too much harm is also desirable and benefits from points fighting skills such as attack control and moving around your opponent etc
This isn't the full spectrum of fighting in the karate styles 😂😂. This is just one form of competition 😂😂
Балет далекий от жизни😂
Deje el karate porque a pesar de tener decenas de tecnicas en kumite solo puntuan algunas, los jueces nunca dan punto a una yoko o maegeri menos a una patada voladora aunque entre, limitan a sus competidores por ende su propio estilo
This is fake point stuff. Kyokushin 100 man kumite completionists would pwnz0r these dudes so badly.
I can’t imagine standing in shiko as a combat stance. It’s a defensive stance and transitory. I would be in zenkutsu, the kicks would be faster.
😂😂😂😂
I don't understand why they just doesn't try to kick with the back leg or some spinning kick.
¡Felicitaciones por la gran participación y el excelente torneo! Para el próximo desafío, recomiendo practicar e incorporar la aplicación del Yoko Geri Keage en su variante deportiva. Esta técnica de contraataque es ideal para frenar y desestabilizar al oponente que realiza un ataque lineal y frontal. Aquí comparto un video que ilustra su ejecución: ruclips.net/video/wb5MdlDcx-I/видео.html&ab_channel=KARATE55"
Los jueces no la puntúan por eso los competidores no se arriesgan a ejecutar es lo malo del karate
Que pelotudez estos combates, hagan una pelea real y dejen de fantasmear.
Mucho escandalo, mucha pirueta y poco realismo. No hay continuidad, a cada intercambio (al punto) rapidamente se pausa la pelea. Un kiokushin o muay thai los pulverisarian en menos de 30 seg. No puede llamarse arte "marcial" esta gimnacia.
Lyoto Machida!
@fernandopessoa2809 siempre nombran ese🤣 sabiendo que lo adapto al muay y siempre persistió en la guardia baja por la que siempre se comió sendos rectos de boxeo
Totalmente de acuerdo
lo del karate es verdad pero en la guardia te equivocas la guardia baja como tu la llamas es una guardia que muchos peleadores de mma usan independiente si vienen del karate o no, hay q entender q la única forma de pararse no es con las manos pegadas al mentón como lo creen todos los pugilistas, muchos han sido efectivos con una guardia más abierta y repito no necesariamente la del karate.@@rip301v
Son las reglas deportivas. En el dojo se pelea más realista. A mi tampoco me gustan las peleas por puntos, pero te da una precisión y velocidad tremenda.
Fome el estilo, deberia ser po nokaut
Manga de perdedores 😅😂
Que aburridas estas peleas, media hora rebotando para un golpe que ni llega a golpear.
🥱🥱🥱🥱
y ni asi le aguantas ni un round a ninguno de los que sale en el video
Cheat , the last wazary was not in