Some Sketchy Rigging for Raising Timbers
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Here we have some sketchy rigging for raising timbers, and I mean some sketchy rigging. This is the first time throughout this build that I have been truly nervous about putting something in the air. It's right on the edge of the second floor, the joinery did not fit as well as most of the timber frame joinery in this building but I am willing to deal with it at this point as there is nothing that will affect the strength of the structure. Hope you enjoy the show.
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Morning Jim.... pure ingenuity! There's always a way to do something if you put your mind to it. Warm weather coming, enjoy.
Yessir, good morning John.
Semi controlled chaos!!!! Anchors, pulleys, winches, inclines, simple, Oh yeah! Great work and you are safe, CHEERS!
Another great video Jim, it's amazing how you work these problems out all on your own, well done , loving the music too.
Thank you Dale and good morning.
You are a whiz at figuring out how best to solve any situation. The weather radar sure showed your area as being wet over the weekend. All the best my friend
It was quite wet.
You know you're not alone in doing the best a man can with what he has. Good job.
Thank you
Hey Jim,
Sometimes creative solutions are called for... As long as you respect the danger you'll be ok. Glad it's up! Looking forward to the last one getting up and you being able to get the roof on... Good job.
Good morning Joe
Good job, well done,looks likes like we’re having some kind of fun. You sir are a man who won’t say that’s not possible, great idea on the rigging. It’s no wonder you don’t get much sleep editing videos and coming up with way to over come an obstacle.
Sleep is for the well rested.
Goooood Morning Mr. Jim coming along cant wait till you get it how you want it.
Good morning Shawn. I checked your friend out.
That wasn't too too bad. As long as the danger is acknowledged and treated appropriately. Getting closer. Looks good.
Good morning Craig.
Good morning. Cool and cloudy here today, but still good working weather.
Evening Jim, why so blue. Every piece is a step closer man, I think you are doing great. Good idea on the rigging, not sure what else you could have done without a crane. Man, can we get rid of the rain?
Jim, There isn't much that can't be done with the five simple machines. lever, pulley , wheel (block and tackle) , inclined plane , wedge , and the screw. I'm building a Timber Frame on my property near Flagstaff Az. Limited manpower and sometimes alone. I love it when people say "It can't be done without a crane" Stay safe, use your head not your back. "Give me a long enough lever and a fulcrum and I can move the world" Archimedes
Good morning, I agree with you. Who needs a crane?
The Army Corps. of Engineers has a manual that describes how to move heavy equipment like canons up and over a ridgeline using Timbers, Block and tackle and levers. You use what you have and the resources available. Failure is not an option in Love or War! Hahaha. Timber Framing is a labor of love, each Bent a battle. NEXT! Love your videos my friend. Your willingness to share your experience, your mistakes and your victories is inspiring. Thank you.
I appreciate that Tim. I enjoy making the videos as much as I enjoy the framing. It has become a huge part of my daily routine. I've met some damn good people doing this.
Yes, there is a community of gifted talented people still preserving the ways of old. Keep going. I've thought of video taping my build. It would have to be a stout little camera though. I'm kind of hard on my electronic gadgets. I had a camera with me on my Honeymoon. I didn't realize the camera was on as I went swimming with it in my pocket. It drowned but preserved the last moments of its life and me saying ....I just went swimming with the fucking camera.
That is funnier than hell. A go Pro is a tough little unit, waterproof to boot. I'd love to see your work. If you decide to do it let me know, I'll do what I can to help.
Morning Jim, excellent engineering on that one. Great progress. Michael
Hello Michael, almost there.
I think after that project you deserve a Jameson or two, but you're probably too tired, stress can do that too ya. So I'll have one or two, and my brother will have a sweet tea. nice video Jim, enjoyed the excitement.
I may need a whole pint
Geez Jim, I’m going to have to go off the wagon after watching that creative rigging. Reminds me of some of my offshore oil field days working with Cajun Engineers. And Robert, quit drinking alone.
Could be a good time
Yay! Another one up! That's my workout space...right?
Yes it is
Do what you can with what you've got Jim. Excellent rigging set up. If it's working don't try and fix it.
Man that's a big building, can't really make out how big it is until you see the tractor down on the field in the background and that's when you see the scale of this. It's Biblical man.
+john montague a lot for one guy but it'll be worth it.
You handled it really well. Great job bud!! Y'all will need a good vacation.
Yes I will, hello Paul.
Well done man! That sure looked scary, but got it done. Rain here today despite it telling is 0% chance of rain on Weather Channel.
I'm reminded of the old saying "I'd rather be lucky than good" Looks like you got a heaping helping of both on that one. I've spent a lot of time doing a two man (of more) job by myself but that one sure could have used a second hand or two.
It sure could have, good morning.
Good Morning Jim, It is great to see the second floor progress. I might suggest one more rope at the top of the single post when raising it to act as an over center stop. when you were pushing it up to level there was no safety to stop it from going over too far. Otherwise I thought you had it all covered pretty well. Great job.
I thought of that after the fact naturally.
Awesome job Jim. Do you still have the drone? Maybe you can give us a above shot of the progress. Ty
I do have the drone, just need good weather to make it happen.
Jim - I'll say this for you - you have a big pair my friend!!
Good morning, you see how small a pair they are when it's time to put the roof on, that is where my bravery runs out.
I love sketchy and questionable methods, they get the job done, nice work
Hi Jim. Some good farm engineering there. I love it. Really creative solution. I am really waiting for the army of drones to put in your rafters. Easy sneezy. Get some rest. Looking forward to your next video.
You're doing great Jimmy.
Thanks Frankie.
Talk about nail biter! Love the ingenuity Jim, another piece of the puzzle!
Good evening buddy, how you doing tonight?
Doing great Jim, Getting super stoked, just broke ground this weekend for the barn! Back to the grind for the week.... Keep up the great videos they're excellent motivation! Best regards,Jason
Thanks Jason, you too.
As good as (or better than) the idea I had.
I don't think it was sketchy at all. I've done a lot of rigging over the years (much of it up on a tower), and yours was fine. The only thing I'd have done has to do with the rope work. I have an inventory of about five knots I call on regularly. Your back line to the adjacent bent was screaming for a clove hitch or a tautline hitch. Unfortunately, you had a lot of excess cordage with which to deal, which can be done, but it's messy. "on a bight" is one way to describe it. "doubling" is another.
And, by the way, both of those hitches are very effective. Clove hitches are used on bollards to secure vessels to wharves, and tautline hitches are used to tie down airplanes.
Hi Jim - well done. :-)), getting momentum up again
Almost there.
Working “on the edge” wasn’t enough drama for you. You had to do it in the rain to ensure everything would be slicker than snot on a doorknob. But, with your usual combination of talent and clean living, you made the fates smile on the project. I think you done good given the limits you had to work within. 😎👍
Thanks Joe
Looks the the care and caution paid off Jim. The only suggestion I would have is to use a back stay line opposite the comealong when you were standing the Jin pole to guarantee it wouldn't go over past vertical. Other than that, looked like pretty sound back yard engineering to me!
Morning Jim. Seemed to work out alright. Yeah, from someone with a history in construction, it did look rather risky. Especially with the winds you can get in the neck of the woods. Congrats on a successful standing. One to go? Or did I miss one?
One to go Thomas!
Sketchy?? Hah, you handled that like a Boss. Glad to see more of the barn coming together. Keep yourself safe and get some rest, you looked tired at the end of the video.
I was beat on that one.
Can't buy you a beer, here from Denmark, you have to settle for a virtual one. Cheers, well done as usual.
Thank you sir
Evening Jim. Go figure it's raining!! 🤔 We have few warm days coming are way brother!👍 Let's hope it stays! 🤞
Now that I see it in place I can appreciate your concerns. I was just thinking that you were only concerned that it would go beyond plum and continue to fall to the opposite side that you were raising it from. Great job.
Thanks Tim.
This coming from someone who had to work by himself and stop 15 stanchions from over centering and going kabonk !
I made a jig out of 2x4's with 2 - 8' legs @ 90 degrees braced on a 45 diagonal, equal distance on the legs set at 6-7'
(just like you would do if making a squaring jig for smaller but cumbersome work). This is light and more manageable.
I stood it up and set the jig base, with 2 screws, on the mark, for your rough center off set, as the toe plate stop for the
beam work and as you did set a reverse toe stop I.E. made a (slot) to control the base to keep it from kicking out at the bottom
I also braced the jig at 90 degrees on a 45 diagonal.
With just my come-along and the beam work rigged as seen here i handily erected the stanchions into place, watching
the base progress closely as they came to rest against the jig and dropping into the slot. Worked with total one man control.
I was feelin' kind'a tight in the nads a couple of times there, too! Glad it worked out.
My nads were tight too.
Well done. Danger is always around the corner for me too.
Good morning T.
Enjoyed the video. Be safe, keep up the great energy!
Thank you
Those are the days when a second set of hands would have come in handy! Nice work.
Good morning Dan
Looked pretty smart. Couldn't you estimate the hypotenuse and rope the post off to the opposite sil so it wouldn't topple? Anyway. Came out great. I love this channel shout out thing you're doing. Way to give back.
You are trying to make me think, that's no good...
looked smooth to me! have a good evening Jim!
You to Ben
Looking good Jim. Not sure if you covered it before but is there a reason why you’re using timber lock screws instead of using tenon and mortis joints on the bottom of the bents and the main beam they rest on?
Logistics and time savings. If it was my house or somebody else's project I would have used the tenons.
I thought it went great considering all the conditions. Good video!!
+A J Taylor thank you
Well done Jim..my Dad, who had a load of silly sayings had one that covers it...Don’t worry it can’t fall, there’s nothing to stop it. 🤓
Nothing holding it up but fear!
I like it. With all timber framing projects, how assembly will happen is of great importance, its goes hand in hand with joinery decisions. Do you have your top plates cut?
Working on those next. Good morning.
Pretty clever, but still a sphincter factor of about 12+. Glad it's up and you're still hale and hearty. It must have been miserable in the rain. Have a good week Jim.
It's stood up, that's all that matters.
Nawww, not all. It also matters that you didn't get hurt. A testament to planning and situational awareness. Nice job..!
You know Jim I use a saying (It is what it is) when your a one man operation the job has to get done, It looks like you handled it just fine good job.
Thank you
EEK! Then day 2 the rain made it look like you were in Western Washington and that made me feel cold and damp.
I take it that the old timers would of had some help or done it the same way. As in life where there is a will there is a way.
You got it though, Great video as always..👍👍😁
Good morning
Another good one
Thanks Ron.
Good ol american ingenuity there Jim. Good job.
Thanks Bruce
great job.
Thank you Wayne.
not that bad, sometimes another person is useful and lots of rachet straps! The bit i don't see is why you aren't draw pegging, i put everything up on steel pins then switch them for oak pegs when its up.
Some people draw bore some don't. That bent should have been, it would've been a better fit up. Most of this frame is pretty tight.
observation not criticism!
I know you were making an observation, good morning.
This is the kind of stuff i love
Dear Jim,
You've done very well in spite of the rain. It's starting to take shape upstairs. Won't be long before you do Madam's fancy boudoir!!!. Keep well my old fruit. Kind regard
Thank you Dilip.
Dear Jim,
Thank you very much for your courteous & hearted reply. It's good to see making progress even if you felt apprehensive. At least your noodle was concentrating on the task at hand, slowly but surely you got it done without any mishaps. Kind regards.
i use boat cleats for quick rope tying , screw them on then remove when done
That is an excellent idea, thank you for sharing it.
knowledge is usless if not shared
It's likely you'll never forgive me for this unlikely but subtly appropriate comparison:
"Pigeon in a Plum Tree
Gumby and Pokey get tired of reading a fairy tale, so they enter the book to watch instead. It's the story of King Ott's son, Harold, who, in spite of being a prince, was very poor. He wanted to get his fiancee a special Christmas gift and, as it turns out there's a sale on partridges in pear trees, so he goes to get one. However, the salespeople are out of partridges in pear trees and, picking up on Harold being a little slow-witted, they sell him a pigeon in a plum tree instead, which is guaranteed to make his fiancée hate him forever. Pokey wants to warn the foolish prince, but Gumby insists that they let the story run its course. (When has that ever stopped him before?) On the way to his sweetheart's house, the prince saves an elf (complete with a bag of magic pixie dust) from a wolf and, in return, the elf comes along to keep him company. As Harold goes in to greet his fiancee, Pokey decides to take matters into his own hands and tells the elf what's going on. When Harold's fiancee comes out, they're both surprised and delighted to find a solid-gold plum tree and pigeon. Gumby scolds Pokey for selfishly helping the prince find a happy ending."
Moral: 'All's well that ends well'.
My first and longest career (40+ years) was as a multifaceted safety engineer... I may never forgive me either.
Are bottoms of the columns tenoned into the top of the first floor tie beam or does it sit on top of the column?
The Queen posts sit on top of the tie beams and are held in place with 10" timberloc lags.
Another step nearer!
Good afternoon; that sure was an exercise in sketchy rigging. For better raising footage, have you considered having one of your kids manning the drone safely from their back yard?
+Aaron Fjordlander my kids would destroy it in a hurry
Oh well, there's always the GSD. They're smarter than most adults these days...
+Aaron Fjordlander that they are
If I were in your area I would have been happy to help.
After noon Jim , it might have been sketchy and the safety police might not be happy but no one got hurt and it worked, has parcel arrived?
Haven't been home today to find out. I'll let you know.
... lol.. ohhell, life itself is sketchy @ times, Jim... different results from different people, but i have faith in your abilities. ;)
Thanks John
...PS... I really enjoyed the music too.... Thanks for that & the video. ;)
2 thumbs up Jim!
Thank you Art.
Hey Jim! Wow that was sketchy! I know you want to do this alone but I'm sure if you asked you'd have plenty of volunteers to help! May make it a little easier and would be a little less sketchy! Sometimes you scare me! I'm glad it all worked out! Love your videos! And I'll see you on the next one!
Good morning Donnell. It was sketchy but well controlled. I have help coming for the roof, that is the scariest part for me.
like you said a little sketchy but it is what it is
Good morning Ozzie. You are right on the money, you work with what you have.
Is that a 706 in the weeds there ?
That would be a 656
great job bud
Thank you
If your wife starts building something that looks like that ..... RUN!
You never know in this house
Most time some rethink will avoid the sketchy!
I agree, glad it worked out.
Afternoon matey good job a bit Heath Robinson but it worked that's all that matters well done 👍
Good afternoon David. It did the job.
TheTradesmanChannel correct and no body hurt plus all the way the mans a genius and I'll second that 👍
It seemed to me that you knew what you were doing... I also have realized that I have some catching up to do, too much of every thing these days.
It is very good to hear from you. I figured you must be busy, I'm told there is a world away from RUclips.
Do I understand this right? You were worried about the bent going over the edge post bottoms first and also the bent going over top first. For top first, no big deal. The bend ends up on the ground and you fix it or build another. For post bottoms going first you could have been a dead duck.
When the bent is off the floor up a couple of feet it could have swung forward if the boards nailed to the 5 x 8 below the deck edge let go. You would have been in the bent’s path with your back turned. The line lifting the bent would have had plenty of slack. It could have crushed your legs on the deck floor before sweeping you over the edge. To prevent that you might have figured a way to pull the chain while standing outside of the bent. You also could have attached a safety line to the bent. As the lifting progressed you could have stopped and paid out safety line just like you stopped to adjust the support braces. Risking the bent is not a big deal. Placing yourself in the path of a bent at the edge of building is not worth the cost of a crane. The lift arrangement seemed well done, controlled. Do I understand the arrangement risk right? Did you?
Oh I had a fair amount of understanding on the dangers and was watching very closely. It was not the safest thing I have ever done and it will be the last time I do them like that. I did incur a major injury on this build back in May, I was moving the gin pole after standing the last queen post bent and it shifted enough to shove me through my stairwell opening that I should have had covered. I shattered my right ankle and am still not able to walk for another four weeks. Believe me when I tell you I understand the ramifications of poor working practices and have been bitten.
I was very reluctant to post the comment as a seeming negative gets remembered and often outweighs many positives. There was no “right or wrong” in it. I’m still not sure why I posted it. I watched it several times to try to understand what the forces were. The last hoist part with you at the chain got me squeamish.
The start of the video was confusing as you were making something I did not recognize as a stock part of timber framing. That played out as the video went along. You must have spent a few weeks wondering how you would deal with the gable bent while working on prior bents.
I have no real experience in rigging other than using a come along in tree felling, no block and tackle work but have great admiration for the trade. You have gear and some prior experience. I watched one video of you hoisting a beam with the tractor. People putting up large structures with cranes and a crew is not so impressive. What you are doing is massively impressive.
I’m new to TF and have been boning up over the last year. There is a lot learn about many aspects of TF so I have subscribed to your channel but have not followed the build in sequence. I’ve watched many guys with solo build channels but over time as I learn more about TF I have gotten to appreciate your approach to work more and more.
I’ve been aware of an injury of some sort for a while through other videos and comments but did not know what exactly happened. Sorry to read about that. I’m sure it is very frustrating to have progress halted. You are a very industrious and creative guy.
The intro sequence to the main video was great. The last part was you setting up the hoist, put a support board close by, put a drill on the floor ready for a quick easy grab, give a few pumps to the hoist then back off with your hand on your hip staring at it all. Funny stuff. Great video work. Thank you for teaching me a lot about more than just TF.
You post anything you want. I don't know everything and sometimes viewers will pick up things I didn't think of. You were right in your assessment of the dangers involved and I was watching very closely for the signs of the bottom kicking out. I had put cleats into the tie beam below to keep that from happening but nothing is guaranteed in life.
I would guess that riggers accept risks due to experience and live with it. You had a high confidence in the cleats so must not have been overly concerned as me without experience. They held.
I’m starting my small shed build solo so looking of ways to deal with lifting beams and a few bents. The three pole and chain fall is not so suitable and a gin pole tough to deal with so seeing the effort you put in to that hoist and eye opener and inspiration. I expressed my reservation but loved the setup. I’ll have to be a bit more industrious and come up with something. I see you have one on shear legs so have to watch that. Take care.
The shear legs are about the safest way alone that I've found. Your cleats on the bottom are key to keep things from kicking out. Once you get over halfway up most of the weight rests on the floor or sill plate. Also with the shear legs you really need to understand that there is extreme tension on your anchor line until you get the leg a little over halfway up.
Hey jim, hows it going brother?
Going well, I'm laying out timbers right now and living the dream.
You should frame a nice window there for the coyotes, bud.
Oh there will be a shooting bench in there along with my reloading equipment.
Hey brother I watch a video of yours and I like the channel I support you and I hit the bell to ok later :)
I just saw you subscribed. If you have a channel trailer throw a link in a comment. I'm putting together a big collaboration with as many smaller channels as I can to help each other out with shutouts. I'd be happy to do the same with you.
Sketchy part of town ?
Park the tractor to run in the store to get a pack of darts and ,,, Geez ! The tractor's up on blocks and someone stole the tires lol
You are very astute for a Canmedian.
You are very astute for a Canmedian.
You don't have to tell me twice lol
If you don't scare a turd out of yourself sometimes, you're doing it wrong!
Wise words from a wise man.
Why didn’t you build a stop on the other side of it so it couldn’t go past your operate a small stop 6 foot tall would’ve did it
That is a good idea, I have one more gable bent to raise, I'll put one on for that one. Sometimes I suffer from tunnel vision.
I bet your wife has ulcers! 😉 creative thinking and good problem solving!
Poor girl puts up with a lot.
It's wonderful that you express that sentiment. I think she is quite blessed in return for her patience! There are plenty of times I would like to thump my husband because he is doing something I am uneasy with but he always tries to hear me out and if the situation requires the drastic measures, he thanks me for my patience and apologize for my concern once the task is complete. Keep the videos coming! They are great!
Better to beg for forgiveness than ask permission!
U SHOULD OF POT A TENTION LINE ON THE OTHER CORNER POST THAT U COULD HAVE STOOD ON AND RELEASE AS YOU NEED IT MIGHT OF HELPED TO STOP IT FROM FALLING TOWARDS U AFTER U RAISED IT COME ALONG WHERE IT IS A ROPE DIRECTLY ACROSS ON THE OTHER CORNER
Sad part is I thought of it afterwards, no good excuse for it either.
Didn't look too sketchy to me......barn is looking good so far
Hey buddy, felt a little more sketchy than it looked.
Hahaha....figure you'll get the barn done this summer?
Hoping to by the end of June.
Heading to Watkins Glen for a nascar race in August, I'll keep my eyes open for a shinny new barn lol
Atta boy, let me know when you're coming through if you want.
That worked pretty good Jim ,get creative working by yourself .
You have to
Get a dang helper and put a railing up on that 2nd floor
If I had a helper at this point I would use one and my railing will soon be a wall...good afternoon.
TheTradesmanChannel
Love the music!
Look I’m just wanting you to survive the build!!!
I'll survive it, I pay attention pretty close, eyes on everything.
I've always admired your workmanship, ethics and determination to complete a project. However, on this occasion I'm going to be a bit critical of you for not at least wearing a hard hat for your own safety. You've got a family to take care of and the last thing they need is an severely injured father/husband or perhaps death. Just some words of advice from someone who cares about your well being.
I understand your concern but I will say this about hard hats. They are great for saving raps on the skull, good for deflecting small items and so forth. If that bent was to land on me a hard hat wouldn't do me much good.
TheTradesmanChannel u got that right! The one statistic always absent is how many injuries or deaths are caused by or directly attributable to said safety equipment. Thinking for yourself is the most important safety or"PPE" you can use. Cant wait to see rafters going up. Thanks for sharing.
Exactly
Good morning. You need another boots on the ground.
Good morning