I can't believe there are people believing this 250k miles scam. We have evidence from the Tesla truck where battery life is cut by more than half under load. These semi are going to be pulling even heavier loads and that doesn't even take into account the weight of their batteries. Are they pulling more goods per cargo or battery? Which is it? You can have both.
In load capacity? You are literally transporting a battery around if you want to get the type of range 1-1 with a conventional semi. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but to make electric semis possible, there has to be a significant breakthrough in battery technology; the problem is that investors who are eager to invest now will be reluctant to try again when it is actually possible.
@@tims8603 They demoed almost 500 miles, loaded to the legal max weight, Fremont to San Diego. The 8.5 hour video of the entire drive is probably still on RUclips.
I'm almost certain there's already a camera in the cabin so I'd imagine they can use the camera to tell if you're asleep or not paying attention. Both of which it can immediately let go of the accelerator and begin slowing down to a halt. For me the greatest benefit are for mountains. The regen braking will be a tremendous help to slow you down while going down a mountain and help maintain a controllable speed
I can't wait to see their second generation semi with all the knowledge they gained integrated. They solve the fire problems with lithium iron phosphate batteries or sodium batteries
Oof so the last video sounded solid and this doesn’t. Looking forward to the deep dive on these new microphones. I’m a local truck driver though and hoping this is able to take off!
The vast majority of semi vs car crashes are usually caused by someone pulling out in front of you. It takes around 40% further to stop over a car. Most of the drifting out of lane is caused from crosswinds from a light or empty load. Typically if you see a flipped semi on a windy or stormy day in a open area it's because a strong crosswind caught it and it was running empty.
In the EU max allowed speed for a semi is 50 mph so efficiency should be even better here when they start delivering. But we also mostly use twin tandem semis so they will definitely have to develop a different chassis for when the normal trailer semi market gets saturated with EVs.
It's not surprising that the Tesla semi is legal in Europe as their restrictions are on total length including trailer, which is why cabover designs are often used.
The Tesla Semi is still too long for Europe. It might be legal to drive it without a trailer or with a short trailer, but there is a limit on the total length from the front of the truck to the back of the trailer. Since the Semi is so long, it's exceeding that length. And no company is going to buy trailers that are 2m shorter. So Tesla will have to make a shorter version for Europe (maybe without a bed in the back).
What this doesn't tell us, is the absolutely massive market for charging station energy batteries that this opens up. Right now, not many trucks charge together. But imagine, when there are over a million of these trucks in service. A charging location absolutely will not be able to pull the 30 megawatt power from the grid for the time that trucks charge there. Instead, the charging location might only pull 5 megawatts continuously 24x7, while also having a, say 40MWh battery on-site. What this would do is lower the electricity rates that a charging location will have to pay, as then it can be pulling 5MW continuously, while deploying the stationary charging location batteries in times of peak charging. Ultimately, Tesla will have to work with utilities to be able to provide electricity at a rate of around $0.25-0.3kWh to trucks, so that they become cheaper enough to drive than diesel trucks to accommodate for their initial higher purchase price. I say this, because even in areas with cheap electricity rates, but where there is a high concentration of Superchargers, the demand variability introduced in the grid by them, supercharging rates can be as high as $0.40/kWh. Now for passenger vehicle use, most people can digest that on road trips, gas vs electricity is more or less within a 10-20% difference, with gas being cheaper for very efficient hybrids, while electricity being cheaper otherwise. For long distance trucking, and even below 400mi trucking, this is not possible as trucks travel on the road for a far higher percentage of the day versus a car, so they do not get to charge at home electricity prices.
I am an owner operator, semi truck driver, and I feel like they are making a mistake with the superchargers instead of swappable batteries. I had heard from another video that the chargers they are using are a couple million dollars each. It seems to me that it would be a lot more cost-efficient to charge batteries slower with grid electricity when available and just swap them out. Imagine replacing the driver side diesel tank on a typical truck with two hooks where you could roll a new battery up on a pallet jack secure and lock in a massive plug. Something like that. I’m excited about the future but a lot of the people developing this technology don’t understand some of the problems where the rubber meets the road out here. Yes I have to take breaks mandated by law, that doesn’t mean that there is a charging infrastructure available at the place. I might have to take a break or that there’s any parking at the time I might be there at night. It’s not like I can even plan to take my brakes required where there is diesel fuel available all the time, it just doesn’t work like that out here. It’s OK for PepsiCo and Frito-Lay when they are returning to the same terminals over and over and I expect that the electric trucks will get adopted by, the large trucking companies like FedEx UPS, Walmart, etc., that have their own terminals. It’s going to be a long time before the smaller fleets and over the road. Truck can utilize electric vehicles.
Based on several reports from independent reporters as well as electric truck drivers from IAA in Frankfurt/ Germany, the Tesla Semi is NOT yet road legal in Europe. One should always take T talk with caution - they have promised a lot during almost 20 years. Tesla Semi is already facing competition which is actually working on the road. And It will get even fiercer - check out the truck presented by a Chinese company named Windrose: 670 km range with full load (40 tons), 1.09 kW/km consumption, 35 mins charging 0 - 60% of the 729 kWh battery pack. That's faster and further than a lot of EV's! Will be EU road legal next year.
The Semi is a big deal. Sure there is the business aspect and better for the environment, but people live near docs and distribution centers, as well as large retail operations, they have been dealing with the noise and air pollution at levels few think or hear about. In Oakland, California, the trucks would be lining up outside the docs to pick up loads, and the pollution from dozens of trucks idling their engines created major conflicts. There was a law passed to force trucks to shut off their engine while waiting to get into the docs. Point is, these electric commercial trucks will save lives and improve the lives in many neighborhoods. All kinds of other positives, but for those who live near delivery places using these large trucks, will be greatly impacted for the better.
5:56 Do you have a link to this reference about it being the fault of the driver? I've been trying to find this report but everything I see from NTSB just says the truck veered off the road, crashed and caught fire.
These are to long to work in Europe, u would only be able to pull a short trailer because of it losing cargo space as we have total length of the trailer and truck not just the trailer
@@bearcubdaycare ! Too bad that when they do happen they can be so bad as of now though… it is interesting to me the phone/laptop situation for airlines etc- getting more and more rare that problems arise BUT WOW huge consequences and I wonder about crew training…
Why does he sound significantly worse? I got a mini heart attack because i thought my headphones i just got back from warranty already broke. Sounds like im playing this in my early2000s car with a raspy speakers
Well, since electric trains already exist, even battery electric ones I've heard (for places where the lines aren't yet electrified, or can't be easily), it wouldn't really be breaking new ground.
Did you know trains are actually run by battery, and the diesel motor just charges the battery packs. True hybrid vehicle! Edison motors from BC is doing this in their logging truck builds. Exciting world!
What a waste of time. How about information on the core information anyone would need to know? Total miles, what does that matter? Videos like this show that the semi is not ready for prime time.
This will increase cost. The Tesla truck can't even pull load without destroying battery life by more than half. These will be pulling even heavier loads. When things are too good to be true then they usually are not true. The current gas semi spends about 5 minutes to fuel up. These will take at least half an hour with more frequent stops. The whole point of a smooth supply chain, logistics is to be as direct with fewer pauses.
The audio is fine, sounds like an average zoom call
i just fixed my headphones and i though my solder did not held.
Tesla Semis are severely underrated
And under delivered
I can't believe there are people believing this 250k miles scam. We have evidence from the Tesla truck where battery life is cut by more than half under load. These semi are going to be pulling even heavier loads and that doesn't even take into account the weight of their batteries. Are they pulling more goods per cargo or battery? Which is it? You can have both.
@@Harrythehun😂
Tesla semis are good for transporting crisps, prob popcorn too
In load capacity? You are literally transporting a battery around if you want to get the type of range 1-1 with a conventional semi. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but to make electric semis possible, there has to be a significant breakthrough in battery technology; the problem is that investors who are eager to invest now will be reluctant to try again when it is actually possible.
Didn't think that medium haul electric trucking was possible. Seems I'm going to be proven wrong.
They claim up to 500 mi.
@@tims8603 They demoed almost 500 miles, loaded to the legal max weight, Fremont to San Diego. The 8.5 hour video of the entire drive is probably still on RUclips.
Long haul will also be feasible as the charging infrastructure is built out as charging can be done during rest stops.
The iPhone 16 Pro truly has the greatest microphone setup. 😂
Is the audio messed up from the IPhone or was this recorded before?
Yes the iPhone mic sucks 😅
It’s a bit below the usual quality for sure, I came here to point it out or see if it was on my end for some reason.
@@JarrettTilford*quite a bit
iPhone 16 Pro?
Are you using the audio mix from iPhone 16 pro it sound like I’m watching the TY underwater
I'm almost certain there's already a camera in the cabin so I'd imagine they can use the camera to tell if you're asleep or not paying attention. Both of which it can immediately let go of the accelerator and begin slowing down to a halt.
For me the greatest benefit are for mountains. The regen braking will be a tremendous help to slow you down while going down a mountain and help maintain a controllable speed
I am impressed that Tesla keeps find more efficiency.
After watching this video I can tell Drew is already gonna return the 16 pro max
I can't wait to see their second generation semi with all the knowledge they gained integrated. They solve the fire problems with lithium iron phosphate batteries or sodium batteries
Even my wife who was sitting next to me not paying attention said "what is wrong with the audio?" Lol
Oof so the last video sounded solid and this doesn’t. Looking forward to the deep dive on these new microphones. I’m a local truck driver though and hoping this is able to take off!
As soon as I tapped on this video I could tell Drew is using the 16 Pro lol. The mic truly sounds awful
The vast majority of semi vs car crashes are usually caused by someone pulling out in front of you. It takes around 40% further to stop over a car. Most of the drifting out of lane is caused from crosswinds from a light or empty load. Typically if you see a flipped semi on a windy or stormy day in a open area it's because a strong crosswind caught it and it was running empty.
Looks like the 16 pro is getting returned.
In the EU max allowed speed for a semi is 50 mph so efficiency should be even better here when they start delivering. But we also mostly use twin tandem semis so they will definitely have to develop a different chassis for when the normal trailer semi market gets saturated with EVs.
It's not surprising that the Tesla semi is legal in Europe as their restrictions are on total length including trailer, which is why cabover designs are often used.
Heck, just driver attentiveness monitoring would save lives when paired with lane departure detection.
Goodbye, 16 Pro Max…
The Tesla Semi is still too long for Europe. It might be legal to drive it without a trailer or with a short trailer, but there is a limit on the total length from the front of the truck to the back of the trailer. Since the Semi is so long, it's exceeding that length. And no company is going to buy trailers that are 2m shorter. So Tesla will have to make a shorter version for Europe (maybe without a bed in the back).
The CHP accident reports says the driver fell asleep.
!
because the Tesla semi factory is a single story, it should go up much quicker than Tesla’s other larger factories with 2 to 4 floors.
Love how 80% of the comments are about the iPhone Mic 😂
What this doesn't tell us, is the absolutely massive market for charging station energy batteries that this opens up.
Right now, not many trucks charge together. But imagine, when there are over a million of these trucks in service. A charging location absolutely will not be able to pull the 30 megawatt power from the grid for the time that trucks charge there. Instead, the charging location might only pull 5 megawatts continuously 24x7, while also having a, say 40MWh battery on-site. What this would do is lower the electricity rates that a charging location will have to pay, as then it can be pulling 5MW continuously, while deploying the stationary charging location batteries in times of peak charging. Ultimately, Tesla will have to work with utilities to be able to provide electricity at a rate of around $0.25-0.3kWh to trucks, so that they become cheaper enough to drive than diesel trucks to accommodate for their initial higher purchase price.
I say this, because even in areas with cheap electricity rates, but where there is a high concentration of Superchargers, the demand variability introduced in the grid by them, supercharging rates can be as high as $0.40/kWh. Now for passenger vehicle use, most people can digest that on road trips, gas vs electricity is more or less within a 10-20% difference, with gas being cheaper for very efficient hybrids, while electricity being cheaper otherwise.
For long distance trucking, and even below 400mi trucking, this is not possible as trucks travel on the road for a far higher percentage of the day versus a car, so they do not get to charge at home electricity prices.
I am an owner operator, semi truck driver, and I feel like they are making a mistake with the superchargers instead of swappable batteries. I had heard from another video that the chargers they are using are a couple million dollars each. It seems to me that it would be a lot more cost-efficient to charge batteries slower with grid electricity when available and just swap them out. Imagine replacing the driver side diesel tank on a typical truck with two hooks where you could roll a new battery up on a pallet jack secure and lock in a massive plug. Something like that. I’m excited about the future but a lot of the people developing this technology don’t understand some of the problems where the rubber meets the road out here. Yes I have to take breaks mandated by law, that doesn’t mean that there is a charging infrastructure available at the place. I might have to take a break or that there’s any parking at the time I might be there at night. It’s not like I can even plan to take my brakes required where there is diesel fuel available all the time, it just doesn’t work like that out here. It’s OK for PepsiCo and Frito-Lay when they are returning to the same terminals over and over and I expect that the electric trucks will get adopted by, the large trucking companies like FedEx UPS, Walmart, etc., that have their own terminals. It’s going to be a long time before the smaller fleets and over the road. Truck can utilize electric vehicles.
Theoretically, they should be safer.
used the iPhone mics for this or were there audio issues? curious.
Based on several reports from independent reporters as well as electric truck drivers from IAA in Frankfurt/ Germany, the Tesla Semi is NOT yet road legal in Europe.
One should always take T talk with caution - they have promised a lot during almost 20 years.
Tesla Semi is already facing competition which is actually working on the road. And It will get even fiercer - check out the truck presented by a Chinese company named Windrose: 670 km range with full load (40 tons), 1.09 kW/km consumption, 35 mins charging 0 - 60% of the 729 kWh battery pack. That's faster and further than a lot of EV's! Will be EU road legal next year.
If by the semi and drive it as an owner operator if I could get one that was a sleeper
maybe 2025 is the year Tesla Semi gets released properly
The Semi is a big deal. Sure there is the business aspect and better for the environment, but people live near docs and distribution centers, as well as large retail operations, they have been dealing with the noise and air pollution at levels few think or hear about.
In Oakland, California, the trucks would be lining up outside the docs to pick up loads, and the pollution from dozens of trucks idling their engines created major conflicts. There was a law passed to force trucks to shut off their engine while waiting to get into the docs.
Point is, these electric commercial trucks will save lives and improve the lives in many neighborhoods.
All kinds of other positives, but for those who live near delivery places using these large trucks, will be greatly impacted for the better.
5:56 Do you have a link to this reference about it being the fault of the driver? I've been trying to find this report but everything I see from NTSB just says the truck veered off the road, crashed and caught fire.
This audio....................
Is this the iPhone 16 audio mic mix this can’t be my 13 pro sounds better
This Audio is so much worse than the end of the tech video
The audio is bad😢
These are to long to work in Europe, u would only be able to pull a short trailer because of it losing cargo space as we have total length of the trailer and truck not just the trailer
Wow certainly we can hope batteries become less and less flammable and eventually maybe they essentially won’t burn however that would be possible!?🔋🤯
Already statistics show that EVs have fewer fires than non hybrid internal combustion vehicles do.
@@bearcubdaycare ! Too bad that when they do happen they can be so bad as of now though… it is interesting to me the phone/laptop situation for airlines etc- getting more and more rare that problems arise BUT WOW huge consequences and I wonder about crew training…
Why does he sound significantly worse? I got a mini heart attack because i thought my headphones i just got back from warranty already broke. Sounds like im playing this in my early2000s car with a raspy speakers
Is this bad audio from iPhone 16 Pro?
Very high pitched
Wow the mic is GOD AWFUL💀 return that 16pm
Why that annoying music in background.??
I wonder if Tesla will ever start building electric trains?
Well, since electric trains already exist, even battery electric ones I've heard (for places where the lines aren't yet electrified, or can't be easily), it wouldn't really be breaking new ground.
Did you know trains are actually run by battery, and the diesel motor just charges the battery packs. True hybrid vehicle! Edison motors from BC is doing this in their logging truck builds. Exciting world!
Audio is messed up
Yup… debated not posting
Hauling potato chips again?
I never comment on video quality or audio quality because I don’t usually care. I’m not an audiophile.
But this is atrocious.
Tesla semis don’t currently have lane keep assist? WTF??
audio 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾
What a waste of time. How about information on the core information anyone would need to know? Total miles, what does that matter? Videos like this show that the semi is not ready for prime time.
This will increase cost. The Tesla truck can't even pull load without destroying battery life by more than half. These will be pulling even heavier loads. When things are too good to be true then they usually are not true. The current gas semi spends about 5 minutes to fuel up. These will take at least half an hour with more frequent stops. The whole point of a smooth supply chain, logistics is to be as direct with fewer pauses.
Who’s watching on their iPhone 16 pro max👇🏾👇🏾👇🏾
I hate it… why not just give it the Model 3 design? In the interior as well. Everything the same just bigger. 🙄🤦♂️
It's still a novelty product that can't be taken seriously
If this is the iPhone, it does sound like trash 😂 but I’m still buying one
It is. Won’t be doing this again
@@TailosiveEV great decision
No problem. Just watch it at 2X 👌