Beyond Medals: Best Uneven Bars Specialists at Worlds from 1970 to 1999 - WAG

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  • @jbw53191
    @jbw53191 Год назад +106

    I would love to see modern-day gymnastics utilize the low bar more and have more transitions like they did back in the 70s. Nowadays, it's just basically a high bar routine.

    • @Glorindellen
      @Glorindellen Год назад +14

      Couldn’t agree more.

    • @catinabox3048
      @catinabox3048 Год назад +16

      With the bars as far as they are today, many of the skills they did before are now impossible. Variety is also limited, since there is no option for a switch involving any other part of the body except the hands, and there needs to be a lot more momentum built up for a transition to happen.

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +16

      Finally found others that feel the same way I do. With the bars so far apart there's less fluidity in the transitions and the routines may only use the low bar to mount the bars and then spend majority of routine on the high bar all doing the same handful of skills.

    • @Glorindellen
      @Glorindellen Год назад +22

      @@gothgirl4evr881 exactly, they have all grown boringly near-identical. I just remember how great Nadia and Olga were to watch, their routines were exciting. Now we are watching the women do men's moves with the occasional switch to the low bar, just to make it official that it's not a man's routine.

    • @jazziebrown7594
      @jazziebrown7594 Год назад +2

      These are awesome!

  • @gothgirl4evr881
    @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +46

    I really miss the performances from back in the 70s and 80s when the bars were closer together and they worked both bars evenly. Now most of the routines are done on the high bar. The routines had more fluidity when they were closer together in my opinion. They were stunningly beautiful

  • @KisaLynette
    @KisaLynette Год назад +5

    Was not surprised to see Svetlana as the no 1.... She was amazing to watch.

  • @amandinevillard2977
    @amandinevillard2977 Год назад +7

    Khorkina is amazing, my favorite gymnast ever.

    • @Gorniachka
      @Gorniachka Год назад

      Khorkina vs Biles today....

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 6 месяцев назад

      What is crazy is to think, from the 1996 Olympic Games to the 2001 worlds she was never defeated on bars! Shows how masterful she was on that particular apparatus.

  • @gojewla
    @gojewla Год назад +16

    Dominique daws had fantastic handstands - so straight and perfectly vertical.

    • @misstekhead
      @misstekhead 2 месяца назад

      She definitely had her moments and could be dynamic, but there were some definite flaws in her handstands. In particular, her transition to low bar or when she would cast to handstand for pirouettes. She had a tendency to overarch her back and releases were slightly crooked or off center sometimes. She would fling herself so high into the air and with that much amplitude/air time I’m surprised she wasn’t able to correct in time.
      These are such minor nitpicks and with that said, my goodness, Dominique Dawes had the best tapped giants of almost any gymnast I’ve ever witnessed. Man or woman. Kelli Hill had a knack for putting together some of greatest bar routines. Elyse Ray is another one of her bar protégés.
      Ugh, it’s unfortunate what we now know about Kelli Hill being problematic and similarly as abusive as the rest of USAG/USGF coaches.

  • @lipetube5
    @lipetube5 Год назад +28

    i find it so funny how rare shaposhnikovas and paks were and how they would be amazed everytime they came up, like we hardly see other types of transitions nowadays

    • @theire483
      @theire483 Год назад +2

      Some of them have possibly been forbidden.

  • @rosemarievanakin8521
    @rosemarievanakin8521 Год назад +8

    Back in the days when they would show and comment on other countries gymnasts, not just our own. Miss those days of the Olympics.

  • @candydogs
    @candydogs Год назад +8

    There were a couple of these where I slowed it down to half speed to watch the transitions. It would be wonderful to see some of these again. I know it's all compacted in to get the points as high as possible now, but I still think something unusual would be nice to see once in a while.

    • @catinabox3048
      @catinabox3048 Год назад +1

      Many of the transitions they did back in the days are now impossible because the bars are now too far apart.

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +1

      ​@@catinabox3048I think that has taken so much away from the performances on uneven bars. I say that in every comment section I see on bars and this is the first one I've been in that I see others that feel the same way. It's gotten to the point that women aren't doing uneven bars they are doing high bar routines where they use the low bar to mount the apparatus. It isn't really much different then men's high bar routines.

  • @TheSaltySiren
    @TheSaltySiren Год назад +10

    The sheer talent from these ladies is phenomenal. I could sit here and watch their gymnastics routines all day long, happily! When I was younger, I loved Nadia Commenicci (sp?). Mary Lou Retton was in the Olympics while I was attending my own gymnastics classes. I wish I could have started at a younger age, and been better at it. I so desperately wanted to be a professional gymnast.

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +3

      Same here. I unfortunately had to move to a different state when I had just made the gymnastics team, in fact we moved on the day of what would've been my first competition so I never got to compete. Where we moved didn't have a good gym anywhere close to us so I had to quit long before I should've. I often wonder what I could've done had I not had to leave the gym I trained at so young.

    • @tarastreasure
      @tarastreasure Год назад +3

      Nadia Comaneci. We are so proud she is still remembered all over the world. 🥰

    • @erzsebetmayer1598
      @erzsebetmayer1598 Год назад

      @@gothgirl4evr881 Just the same story

  • @lovewasawillow
    @lovewasawillow Год назад +16

    Just stunning routines, so much more dynamic than the Shaposhnikova ping pong routines of today. Would love to see more variation back in UB but the way FIG is going, I don't think they will ever do it. For some reason they seem happy to watch the sport decline before their eyes.

    • @stanleygagner
      @stanleygagner Год назад +1

      I agree that modern bars can be very formulaic, but I don't think the problem is actually because of Shaposhnikova and pak transitions. They are used frequently, but the alternative is some of the very dull transitions we saw in the 1990s, like standing on the low bar, that little "pop" thing kim and others do, and poorly executed bails that don't end in a handstand. Dina Kochekova's routine was greatly improved by a pak salto and shaposh, so it's really the rest of the routine and underutilization of the low bar that is the issue with some of today's routines, not the transition skills themselves.

    • @lovewasawillow
      @lovewasawillow Год назад +1

      @@stanleygagner While I see your point, I have to disagree. You can look at routines from the 2012 quad and before that to see good examples of what UB routines used to be like - routines like Huang Qiushuang’s, He Kexin’s, Tweddle’s, even Kyla Ross or Jordyn Wieber’s. Much more dynamic routines with more skill variety, that aren’t all practically the same routine over and over. Imo the transitions weren’t bothersome to watch at all. I’d rather have a poorly executed toe shoot at this point than sit through the same routine 100 times in a competition.

  • @nocomment2468
    @nocomment2468 Год назад +16

    Floor and vault have really become more exciting than they used to be, but bars and beam seem less and less creative. It’s great to see these historical bar routines.

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +6

      I agree but even floor has become less creative it's more about how high powered difficult tumbling passes then it is about a mixture of dance skills and tumbling skills. I miss watching the exhibition meets back in the 90s where it wasn't a competition but a show where the rules were relaxed a little and the gymnasts could use rock and roll, country, or whatever music not just instrumental and they could where costumes that matched their routines. They don't do those anymore.

  • @abacus299
    @abacus299 Год назад +9

    Some wonderfully creative mounts and transitions. This fluid elegance and originality is missing from current competition. Not the gymnasts fault when they have to chase the points.

  • @suzettehenderson9278
    @suzettehenderson9278 Год назад +8

    Love the hop giants and the below bar twists--wish we saw more of those.

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +4

      I agree now a days most of the routines are done on the high bar and there isn't as much fluidity and transitioning between the bars like when they were closer together.

  • @balletteach67
    @balletteach67 Год назад +8

    East Germany ( GDR) owned uneven bars in the 1970's and 1980's. Karin Janz, Maxi Gnauck, Dorte Thuemller, Gabrielle Fahnrich and Dagmar Kersten all time greats !

  • @SageRosemaryTime
    @SageRosemaryTime Год назад +3

    Very cool selections . some rare and interesting routines. I watched it again immediately - then subscribed .

  • @suzettehenderson9278
    @suzettehenderson9278 Год назад +12

    It would be nice to list the year of the recording.

  • @AnnekaMorgan
    @AnnekaMorgan Год назад +11

    That routine by Karin Janz lives rent free in my head but I've never seen it from that angle!!

  • @beckykent6674
    @beckykent6674 Год назад +6

    The ones from the 70's and 80's are soooo much better and way more interesting than the same old ones they do today and they are way harder than today!!

    • @chrissy54ful
      @chrissy54ful Год назад +1

      That’s your opinion. I think todays gymnastics are sooooo much more difficult and hardly boring. The girls from 1970s and 1980s could never do what is being done today on any apparatus. Perhaps you are bothered by seeing African American women dominate a sport that skinny Europeans and Chinese women once dominated. Oh well, progress rules, not the past.

    • @snapplegu6100
      @snapplegu6100 4 месяца назад

      @@chrissy54ful Absolute seethe and jealousy lol, I'm sorry you have no culture that you're actually incapable to appreciate elegance.

  • @annabellerevell6888
    @annabellerevell6888 Год назад +11

    It shows us how little innovation there has been on uneven bars in the last 10-15 years. Also every single one of these girls had stretched feet with ankles together in every handstand instead of the all too common sickled feet we see today.

    • @superstarcat7654
      @superstarcat7654 Год назад +3

      And I don’t like the spread knees in the tucked position that is common now. Terrible form!!

    • @Gorniachka
      @Gorniachka Год назад

      I do not watch the modern competitions any more

    • @lsr2937
      @lsr2937 Год назад

      I gymed in late 70’s and first half of the 80’s. My mother ran a ballet studio so I had a strong dance background. Worked at a gym in the 20 teens and really worked with my girls on presentation, turn out and not sickling the feet. The team head coach told me that stuff wasn’t important and I should be working on difficulty. I don’t work there anymore.

  • @brendadufaur37
    @brendadufaur37 Год назад +6

    So brilliant.

  • @candydogs
    @candydogs Год назад +6

    Is it possible to have the year each was performed in the future? I love thinking back to when I saw them on tv...and trying to remember when I saw them!

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +3

      I can put in the next videos

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +1

      Was wondering the same thing. Could sorta tell by the skills and the distance between the bars on roughly what decade they were from

  • @1927su
    @1927su Год назад +10

    Where was Elena Muhkina & her amazing kobut with a twist???

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +5

      She won a silver at Bars (8 points). That's why she isn't here.

    • @suchisthismystery2814
      @suchisthismystery2814 Год назад +3

      ​@@gymnasticfan9148That is irrelevant. It's about the performance not subjective scorings.

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +7

      @@suchisthismystery2814 This is all about the results, not about my personal opinion. It's "beyond medals" because I also valued 4th to 8th.

    • @suchisthismystery2814
      @suchisthismystery2814 Год назад +1

      ​@@gymnasticfan9148If it's "Beyond Medals", it should NOT be about the results! To make it such is a contradiction in terms!

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +5

      @@suchisthismystery2814 You just didn't understand the whole point of this serie. It's to also valorize athletes like Chusovitiva, Streingruber who we always see in the finals but not always in the podium

  • @松永理浩
    @松永理浩 7 месяцев назад +2

    中国のジムナストの段違い平行棒の演技は大変素晴らしいですね!

  • @simonfea2
    @simonfea2 Год назад +6

    8:29 that is sick!

  • @erinjohnson1124
    @erinjohnson1124 Год назад +3

    Maxi Gnauck was pure POWER on bars. Loved that Khorkina got three clips for this. The bars GOAT!

  • @giselleyvette
    @giselleyvette Год назад +4

    Bar work from earlier years were so stunning to watch. So complex. Honestly, uneven bars today don’t look as artistic. Everything kind of looks the same.

  • @maria_haarajoki
    @maria_haarajoki Год назад +5

    Luo Li won gold on bars with an incredible performance in 1994 but I never heard of her again after this competition (Brisbane Worlds 1994). I wonder what happened...

    • @09084084A
      @09084084A Год назад +2

      She retired at 18 because of hepatitis and later she married to a pommel horse athlete in US and live in US since 1999

  • @ziva_libre_et_suisse
    @ziva_libre_et_suisse Год назад +3

    Les deux meilleures gymnastes aux barres asymétriques de ces trois décennies étaient Olga Korbut aux JO de Munich en 1972 lorsqu’elle réalisa pour la première fois le Korbut flip, et Nadia Comăneci aux JO de Montréal en 1976 où elle obtint la note parfaite de 10.
    C’est une insulte envers ces deux gymnastes exceptionnelles qui ont révolutionné le monde de la gymnastique de les avoir exclues de cette vidéo censée représenter les meilleures gymnastes au monde entre 1970 et 1999.
    J’ai même remarqué dans les commentaires que personne n’a remarqué leur absence.

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад

      This video is about World Championships... idk why you are bringing their performances at Olympics here.

    • @ziva_libre_et_suisse
      @ziva_libre_et_suisse Год назад +1

      @@gymnasticfan9148
      ​ce n’est écrit nulle part que cela concerne les championnats monde. Le titre de la vidéo présente les meilleures gymnastes au monde aux barres asymétriques et ne dit pas que c’est uniquement aux championnats du monde. Les meilleures gymnastes du monde peuvent aussi bien l’avoir été aux JO.
      Olga Korbut et Nadia Comāneci sont incontestablement les deux meilleures gymnastes au monde entre 1972 et 1999.

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад

      @@ziva_libre_et_suisse The title says "at Worlds" not "of the world". Worlds = World Championships.

    • @ziva_libre_et_suisse
      @ziva_libre_et_suisse Год назад +1

      @@gymnasticfan9148
      I’m sorry. In French, at world and of the world are the same.
      at world --> au monde
      of the world --> du monde.
      Meilleures au monde ou meilleures du monde, in french it’s the same.

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +2

      @@ziva_libre_et_suisse Oh ok, that makes sense. I will make an Olympic Games (and Olympic+Worlds) version after Paris, they certainly will be included.

  • @1Samwan
    @1Samwan Год назад +2

    where is Elena Muckina?

  • @easysport11
    @easysport11 Год назад +1

    Awesome. Like it

  • @saragrant9749
    @saragrant9749 Год назад +19

    Kim from Korea was incredible, it’s just such a shame she was too young and wasn’t allowed at the Olympics. Her country really screwed her over.
    Svetlana Khorkina won all those bars titles for a simple reason- she was the queen of stuck dismounts. In that scoring system it made a huge difference.

    • @captainbryce1
      @captainbryce1 Год назад

      Kim was allowed at the Olympics (and competed at the Olympics in 92). She shouldn't have been because technically she was too young, but they lied about her age so that she could compete. ruclips.net/video/wrPyqCyhz24/видео.html

    • @lanpingpug
      @lanpingpug Год назад

      She went to the 1992 Olympics.

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 Год назад

      @@lanpingpugshe did? Huh, I’d forgotten that! Did she end up not medaling, or was that something she ended up losing? I’m not as familiar with that era of gymnastics, only really getting interested in 1994 forward.

    • @niseplank4527
      @niseplank4527 Год назад

      She didn't stick her dismount.

    • @saragrant9749
      @saragrant9749 Год назад

      @@niseplank4527 oh ok, that explains it. That was extremely costly in the old 10 system, definitely.

  • @Agju
    @Agju Год назад +3

    the routine at #2 was my favorite :)

  • @cherieblizzard9585
    @cherieblizzard9585 Год назад +11

    What we have lost in artistry and beauty has been made up in the unnecessary viewing of private body parts.

  • @emmanuell80
    @emmanuell80 Год назад +7

    Khorkina is the best of the BEST

  • @1ACL
    @1ACL Год назад +1

    So much more interesting than today! Why did they change the bar distances?

    • @HospedeDoTempo
      @HospedeDoTempo Год назад

      Because of frequent injuries to gymnasts' hips.

  • @lenoreandreas4000
    @lenoreandreas4000 Год назад +2

    Pity you didn’t put the year on each one.

  • @lamh5265
    @lamh5265 Год назад +1

    E. SZABO great...I had to rewind, M Frerick, E. EBERLE...I had to rewind...Nie to see S. Miller...she was great.

  • @redxx3619
    @redxx3619 Год назад

    There's a few that didn't state the name... I recognize Shannon Miller, Daniela Silvas & Svetlana Khorikova, but do not know the names of the rest? If anyone can tell me?

  • @lyoness6
    @lyoness6 Год назад

    Have the routines gotten longer over the years as more moves/difficulty are added? Seems like the older ones are a lot shorter.

  • @MusicLover-cl6cw
    @MusicLover-cl6cw 22 дня назад

    Closer together bars, way superior!

  • @erzsebetmayer1598
    @erzsebetmayer1598 Год назад +1

    Where is Nadia?

  • @pam0626
    @pam0626 Год назад +3

    Why don’t today’s gymnasts have this level of difficulty or artistry.

  • @artslife3876
    @artslife3876 Год назад

    Why is Olga Korbut's uneven bars done by somebody ese??

  • @freyaaldrnari6086
    @freyaaldrnari6086 Год назад +2

    Love Ludmilla

  • @blakeaaron5698
    @blakeaaron5698 Год назад +4

    Bars is the only event that I think has become less interesting and in many ways less difficult over time... Khorkina was the last of an era of true artists on bars (at least up til now). Now the agenda seems to be get the points and get off ASAP.

  • @Gorniachka
    @Gorniachka Год назад

    WHY I keep watching these kind of videos instead of modern competitions? For example Khorkina Vs Biles.........

    • @jacobmiller2663
      @jacobmiller2663 Год назад

      Well tbh, Simone least favorite event is Bars and she’s not mostly known for her bars but the other 3. Khorkina may have better bars than Simone but she’s not coming close to Simone at all with the other 3 events.

    • @snapplegu6100
      @snapplegu6100 4 месяца назад +1

      Because Wario Simone is unpleasing to the eyes because of her extreme lack of grace.

    • @jacobmiller2663
      @jacobmiller2663 Месяц назад

      @@snapplegu6100why is Simone always on yall mind, is there no other gymnast for yall to talk about in modern gymnastics?

    • @snapplegu6100
      @snapplegu6100 Месяц назад

      @@jacobmiller2663 >y'all.

  • @triffus
    @triffus Год назад +1

    I wish Elvire Teza was in here :)

  • @katekramer7679
    @katekramer7679 Год назад +1

    0:57 I thought that was only ever done once!

    • @suzettehenderson9278
      @suzettehenderson9278 Год назад +2

      Oh no, the Korbut was popular for at least a couple quads.

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +2

      I knew she did it more than once but didn't think anyone else performed though

  • @itsjudystube7439
    @itsjudystube7439 Год назад +1

    Did I miss Olga Korbutt

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад

      Her best result at Worlds was a 2nd, that's why she is not here.

  • @betterof6always832
    @betterof6always832 Год назад +2

    And where's Nadia Comenaci!!!

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад

      Her best result at Worlds was a 5th

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад

      I was wondering the same but I knew her results were for the Olympics was positive what they were for the World's.

    • @betterof6always832
      @betterof6always832 Год назад

      @gothgirl4evr881 true!

  • @anmargothjerez7616
    @anmargothjerez7616 Год назад

    Did you forget Nadia; or you did con porpose?

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад

      It's only counting their performances at Worlds, her best result was a 5th in 1978

  • @marqueladuartes6461
    @marqueladuartes6461 Год назад +2

    Olga kourvot la mejor

  • @michelbethge6114
    @michelbethge6114 Год назад +1

    ❤❤

  • @cynthiahoggatt6911
    @cynthiahoggatt6911 Год назад +1

    My stomach hurt ouch on the bar

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад

      You don't feel it much when doing it with your stomach muscles tightened they way the gymnasts stomachs are

  • @sharongraham116
    @sharongraham116 Год назад +5

    These girls were brilliant 👏. Not fond of the gymnasts of today prefer not to watch them. Too butch

  • @suefergusson5351
    @suefergusson5351 Год назад

    The 2nd girl, does a back flip, VERY SIMILAR to Olga Korbats, but thought this was banned, after she did this 'trick'!

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад

      I thought that was a Korbut flip too. But I didn't think anyone else performed it other than her. I was also surprised to not see her or Nadia in this video considering Nadia was 1st 10 but that was at the Olympics and not the World's.

    • @genlyai5055
      @genlyai5055 Год назад

      Not for many years. The FIG's era of total repression/eating out Nelli Kim five times a day began later.

    • @genlyai5055
      @genlyai5055 Год назад +2

      @@gothgirl4evr881 No, many people did it for some time. Mukhina did it with a full twist (!!!)

  • @ekaterinazazubina9520
    @ekaterinazazubina9520 Год назад +3

    So pleasant to see true gymnasts, not gorillas

  • @emszabi
    @emszabi Год назад

    Good job, you only skipped the best ones!

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад

      Read the title again... It's about results at World Championships

  • @theire483
    @theire483 Год назад

    No Nadia or Olga🤔

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +1

      Olga have a Silver (8 points) and Nadia a 5th (4 points)

    • @theire483
      @theire483 Год назад +1

      @@gymnasticfan9148 ✔ thanks

    • @gothgirl4evr881
      @gothgirl4evr881 Год назад +3

      I'm assuming there will one that you do for best Olympic routines which will include them. Most people don't realize this wasn't for Olympic performances from what I've read in the comments

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +1

      @@gothgirl4evr881 I was planning to do in the next year, after the Olympics

    • @gymnasticfan9148
      @gymnasticfan9148  Год назад +1

      @@gothgirl4evr881 And also a version including Olympics and Worlds

  • @reallyseriously7020
    @reallyseriously7020 Год назад +1

    I miss the creativity and originality of the older style routines. The code of points has ruined the style and flair of bars by making every routine look the same. Handstands are all, but they are boring to watch.

  • @8jaime8
    @8jaime8 Год назад +4

    Being these bars back - and compulsories! Gymnastics is so boring today. The grace and elegance has been sacrificed to power.

    • @Cleow33
      @Cleow33 Год назад +2

      Look at the form of these gymnasts. Legs properly straight, toes properly pointed throughout, legs squeezed together. The power gymnasts of today make moves look ugly. They need more ballet training especially the American girls. Legs gapped, toes turned in and not stretched. Watch these girls striving for absolute perfection. Beautiful.

    • @jacobmiller2663
      @jacobmiller2663 Месяц назад

      @@Cleow33why does an athlete need ballet training? Ballerinas are doing nothing on the level of a gymnast?

  • @albator94230
    @albator94230 Год назад

    Svetlana, Khorkina une des reines des barres asymétriques et cette petite chinoise qui faisait un "gaylord" sur la barre supérieure, exceptionnelle...

  • @metsdudenj
    @metsdudenj Год назад

    i WONDER ABOUT THE UKRAINIANS ON HERE VERSUS OTHER GYMNASTS WITH MORE SUCCESS INTERNATIONALLY

  • @deniecegetwell7505
    @deniecegetwell7505 Год назад

    I would love for someone to change the year to 1777. Just for good luck !! There's a challenge . Anyone good at editing .!!! No 9's. Peace love and happiness. In the form of the year 1777 . Maybe Einstein will make it happen!!!