Ya we really like these old fieldstone silos because they are built like tanks so we like trying to find a way to bring them back to life for modern use! Thanks for watching!
Damn, I am liking that King Post. A great build process yields a great result. The entire roof system is a master builder program. If I was the average of the brothers I would beg you for an apprentice position.
That workshop and all your tools are to die for, the size and scale of what you guys are exposed to is to die for, us in the UK can only dream about that !
You’re doing a great job! It all locks amazing. The only thing that concerns me is you not using hearing protection. Routers, circular saws and all the other machines are loud! You are still young but if you want to be able to hear your future grandchildren. Protect your hearing. ❤
And eye and breathing protection too. A decent dust mask will save you from every cold turning into a chest infection because of all the crap in your lungs.
As an old guy who has to wear hearing aids because I didn't protect my hearing when I was your age, I encourage you to protect yours. You will want to hear your grandchildren some day.
I've always considered myself a real good carpenter. Many others have also. But, after watching this, I think it's time to sell all my tools! I just don't have that kind of vision. Maybe if I had plans to work from, I could do it, but it would probably take me forever! When I do a wood working or remodel job, I rely on the customer for the vision. But I just can never see it. I just make what other people see. Great job guys!
Thank you very much! We sometimes get crazy ideas in our head and have to scrap a lot of them but occasionally we will power through a tough one like this no matter what it takes!
That's some beautiful joinery. As a professional craftsman myself, watching you build jigs to do difficult things makes me smile. It's the sign of someone that really knows what they're doing. And as a Brit, I have to tell you that tenon is pronounced "Ten Un" btw, not "Tee Non", just in case you were wondering 🤣😂
Thanks! Haha yeah we got a lot of heat in the comments about that. We’re not the best with terminology and pronunciation but always willing to learn and get better.
This was a great watch. Your use of jigs and packers was phenomenal. A beautiful design and some spectacular workmanship! Thanks for the video. (From an older guy with tinnitus, you will regret not looking after your hearing. On the other hand, I used ear protection all my life and still got tinnitus :-(. )
I watched this whole thing with absolute awe and fascination. I consider you to be not only incredible carpenters, but also incredibly good at woodworking. I wonder...would the Amish take on such a project?
Nice content. The joinery is awesome. Also, I love the time lapse shots. You should be wearing proper safety equipment, especially safety glasses. Your shop seems pretty organized. Consider adding some sort of dust collection. Even some sort of portable air filtration a la Frank Howerth would be helpful.
That is so cool, you guys are true craftsmen. I do also recommend true masks not just the over the neck handkerchiefs and good hearing protection. You guys are still very young and may shine all this comments, but all of us who have commented on this subject, seems we have gone through that feelings of invincibility, but are now paying the price with lungs disease and hearing loss. Protect yourselves and keep up the good work. Love this content.
The very large hand circular,, never stand directly behind or over it. Same for all hand circulars. All hand circulars are operated from the side,, nominal 90 degrees to the spin of the blade. Make sure the power cord is routed to the side and away from you. I got my first jobs because of hand circulars,, killing or maiming the guy I replaced. The lesson was never lost on me. You are young. I'd like to see you get old.
Clear boat epoxy could be used to fill some of those splits especially on the tenons where mechanical forces will be greatest, & I would paint inside the joints with linseed oil fitting them together while the linseed oil is wet to protect from dry rot & termites.
Amazing design,execution,editing!!! I’d be nice to crane lift that rafter fully assembled You guys are going to have a huge subscription surge this year
We were debating building on the ground and craning it up but I think we had more fun assembling piece by piece on top of the silo! Thanks for watching!
I did this stuff back in the late 70 to late 80s when I was your age. I never wore gloves, hearing protection or goggles. Never had an issue. I’m 57 now been a remodeler since the 80s and I still don’t gear up. So don’t worry about the negative comments about how you should be wearing some sort of space suit. While sawing and cutting. Some of us are more confident not wearing all that junk and work safer. So keep up the great work.
I think disassembling it in order to install it is a Bad Idea. I'd hire a Crane or Hire the Local Truss Plant Hiab Truck to install the assembly in one shot. The only thing else I would have done different is I would have cut a bevel on each side of Top Face of the main rafters so the ends of the roof decking don't have any gap at their Ridge Intersections. Ultimately, it won't matter because of the Ridge Cap (if shingled) or Flashing (if steel) at the Main Rafters. As long as those diagonals from the Rafters to the King Post are able to take Tension, the roof should never Squat. But arguably, because it sits up on a knee wall and there are not Ceiling Joists or Collar Ties, it is Laterally Unsupported. So those diagonals have an important job to prevent the roof from squatting and settling, pushing the knee walls outward. IN the END: I like you work. Your mortise and tenon work is nice and tight. No big gaps or anything. PS> I love that chain-type Mortising bit. That's awesome. It's obvious you take pride in your work so good on you.
Thank you very much and we appreciate all the feedback and the thought you put behind our work, we really enjoy what we do and like to let our work show it but we still have plenty to learn!
Impressive design and carpentry skills. Thanks, I really enjoyed watching the roof frame go together. How did you verify the trueness of the round silo to obtain the overall width dimension?
Thanks! We triple checked the inner and outer diameter dimensions at the bottom of the silo and up at the top cap. It was fairly nice and round considering it was built out of fieldstone and mortar in 1909.
Thanks for mentioning, haha! The work and the video quality are top notch but that single pronunciation was killin’ me. I was like “maybe this an inside joke amongst them”
To be honest it was a mixture of test cuts for the complicated angles but for the most part they were 22.5 degree angles because it’s an octagon. And the roof we went with a 30 degree angle
Cool project. But if you want to impress us old Carpenters, do them with hand tools and no computer CAD. I have built quite a few Timber structures over the years. I suppose the most challenging was the one drawn on a brown brown paper sack
Yes sir! We definitely have a lot of respect for the old methods of timber framing, we just try to expedite our projects as much as possible with these tools due to time constraints, we tend to start our designs out on scratch paper as well! Thanks for watching!
Great question! We stabilized the cracks with hidden lag bolts but king post is primarily all compression forces so it shouldn’t affect it either way, thanks for watching!
I don’t want to make lite of your work- because there is lotta work involved. But it’s lotta basic architectural work- maybe I’m looking at it from a little bit of experience- and you guys are young- ya know what / great job- it looks fab! Keep posting guys!👍
I thought he was saying Tee-Nawn or maybe Tee-Gnawn like something a beaver would do to a limb. Curious if he learned how to say the word by reading without ever hearing it spoken. Probably some weird regional dialect, where?
@MtrePierre haha yeah it’s not considered a traditional timber frame where only dowels are used but we did use lags for extra strength since this was our first timber frame project and the owner was fine with us doing it this way. We did make sure to hide all the lags behind the ceiling boards or adjacent beams so when you are standing under it, it looks like only dowels were used. Thanks for watching!
Thank you. I've dreamt of a silo home project like that for decades. Still every time I drive by an old silo, I think about it.
Ya we really like these old fieldstone silos because they are built like tanks so we like trying to find a way to bring them back to life for modern use! Thanks for watching!
Damn, I am liking that King Post. A great build process yields a great result. The entire roof system is a master builder program. If I was the average of the brothers I would beg you for an apprentice position.
usa carpenters just like Notre Dame cathedral carpenters in France. Geat skills. Congratulations.
Thank you, we appreciate it!
That workshop and all your tools are to die for, the size and scale of what you guys are exposed to is to die for, us in the UK can only dream about that !
Thanks! Took a lot of years and hard work to acquire it all but very thankful for what we have and what we’re able to accomplish
that octagon cut was sweet
I am really enjoying watching this build.
I have never, ever heard of anyone in the construction business call a tenon a tee-non!
Was gonna say the same. Maybe just a thing amongst themselves?
@@KenBissell-oq2ns 👍
Haha ya we got into a bad habit of calling them that and now we kinda just keep saying it that way for fun, thanks for watching!
You’re doing a great job! It all locks amazing. The only thing that concerns me is you not using hearing protection. Routers, circular saws and all the other machines are loud! You are still young but if you want to be able to hear your future grandchildren. Protect your hearing. ❤
Thank you! Yes, we often get so focused on our work we often forget about safety precautions but we are working on improving that!
And eye and breathing protection too. A decent dust mask will save you from every cold turning into a chest infection because of all the crap in your lungs.
You’ve outdone yourselves guys, dang, that’s one gorgeous roof, perfectly formed and executed, outstanding!!!
Brilliant work
Thanks! Took some time designing and building but it was well worth it in the end!
Awesome, well done👍
Thank for watching!
As an old guy who has to wear hearing aids because I didn't protect my hearing when I was your age, I encourage you to protect yours. You will want to hear your grandchildren some day.
And eye protection too!
Absolutely
As another not so old guy with hearing aids, agree!
Huh wha dya say there? couldn't hear ya I'm deef. Didn't wear hearing protection in the salmon canary.
I've always considered myself a real good carpenter. Many others have also. But, after watching this, I think it's time to sell all my tools! I just don't have that kind of vision. Maybe if I had plans to work from, I could do it, but it would probably take me forever! When I do a wood working or remodel job, I rely on the customer for the vision. But I just can never see it. I just make what other people see. Great job guys!
Thank you very much! We sometimes get crazy ideas in our head and have to scrap a lot of them but occasionally we will power through a tough one like this no matter what it takes!
Notre Dame's new roof, all timber-framed just like this. A marvel that the original was done centuries ago, entirely with hand tools.
you guys are the next gen master craftsmen. From a guy who loves timber frame Ill be looking forward to all of your future projects
Thank you, much appreciated!
That's some beautiful joinery. As a professional craftsman myself, watching you build jigs to do difficult things makes me smile. It's the sign of someone that really knows what they're doing. And as a Brit, I have to tell you that tenon is pronounced "Ten Un" btw, not "Tee Non", just in case you were wondering 🤣😂
Thanks! Haha yeah we got a lot of heat in the comments about that. We’re not the best with terminology and pronunciation but always willing to learn and get better.
This was a great watch. Your use of jigs and packers was phenomenal. A beautiful design and some spectacular workmanship! Thanks for the video. (From an older guy with tinnitus, you will regret not looking after your hearing. On the other hand, I used ear protection all my life and still got tinnitus :-(. )
Thank you very much and yes we do have to get better with our PPE, old habits are hard to beat lol
This is genuinely incredible. Absolutely amazing craftsmanship.
Thank you!
I think Norm Abrams & Tom Silva would approve of your work and attention to detail.
12:21 The ideas you guys come up with for your blade guides is pretty ingenious. Subbed.
Thank you, we try to think outside the box with the scraps and tools we have lying around when we can!
I watched this whole thing with absolute awe and fascination. I consider you to be not only incredible carpenters, but also incredibly good at woodworking. I wonder...would the Amish take on such a project?
Thank you very much! We enjoyed working on this roof even though it was quite the challenge! God bless!
From one carpenter to another Great Job.
Thank you and God Bless
Nice content. The joinery is awesome. Also, I love the time lapse shots.
You should be wearing proper safety equipment, especially safety glasses. Your shop seems pretty organized. Consider adding some sort of dust collection. Even some sort of portable air filtration a la Frank Howerth would be helpful.
We do have to work on our safety, old habits die hard, thanks for watching!
Great skills!
That is so cool, you guys are true craftsmen. I do also recommend true masks not just the over the neck handkerchiefs and good hearing protection. You guys are still very young and may shine all this comments, but all of us who have commented on this subject, seems we have gone through that feelings of invincibility, but are now paying the price with lungs disease and hearing loss. Protect yourselves and keep up the good work. Love this content.
I loved watching this - GREAT JOB - but you guys need safety glasses for sure - put them on TODAY
Thank you and we will definitely improve our safety precautions!
May God continue to bless you. Amen and so cool.
Such good workmanship
That's awesome I wish I was there working on it !!
I agree with one of the other comments...brilliant work!
I like the reverse jack rafters, cool look.
You guys are inspiring. Appreciate the channel.
Thanks for watching!
That vertical chainsaw like drill you used is cool
That’s the Makita chain mortiser and it works great for large mortises, thanks for watching!
Excelente trabajo . Gracias por vuestros videos
Thanks, our pleasure!
Incredible design and craftsmanship
Thanks!
@19:00 I Really love those "Blinky Safety Glasses!" Funny thing is - With all these tools, and no Eyeball control!
That’s stunning woodworking!
Heavy duty woodworking. Impressive!
Thanks!
Wow! No falling asleep in Geometry class for you guys!
Haha ya it was one of our more liked classes, Reading and literature on the other hand, not so much! thanks for watching!
The very large hand circular,, never stand directly behind or over it. Same for all hand circulars. All hand circulars are operated from the side,, nominal 90 degrees to the spin of the blade. Make sure the power cord is routed to the side and away from you. I got my first jobs because of hand circulars,, killing or maiming the guy I replaced. The lesson was never lost on me. You are young. I'd like to see you get old.
Hello from Moosomin,Saskatchewan,Canada you have great videos and great at communicating. Thanks for sharing. Please wear safety glasses.
Thank you and we sure will improve on our PPE!
You guys are amazing! Beautiful engineering.
Thank you very much!
Clear boat epoxy could be used to fill some of those splits especially on the tenons where mechanical forces will be greatest, & I would paint inside the joints with linseed oil fitting them together while the linseed oil is wet to protect from dry rot & termites.
Linseed oil prevents termites? I'd wash the area with a borate solution. I also think it's moisture preventive to seal all end grain with shellac.
Thanks for the tip! Much appreciated
Amazing work 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi boys
You are Superba !
👍🏼👌👏🤙
Thank you!
Great job guys
wonderful saw shed - my life would have been totally different if I could have made my own lumber
Thank you, it definitely was a game changer for our business!
Nice Ten-ons!
Amazing design,execution,editing!!! I’d be nice to crane lift that rafter fully assembled You guys are going to have a huge subscription surge this year
We were debating building on the ground and craning it up but I think we had more fun assembling piece by piece on top of the silo! Thanks for watching!
I did this stuff back in the late 70 to late 80s when I was your age. I never wore gloves, hearing protection or goggles. Never had an issue. I’m 57 now been a remodeler since the 80s and I still don’t gear up. So don’t worry about the negative comments about how you should be wearing some sort of space suit. While sawing and cutting. Some of us are more confident not wearing all that junk and work safer. So keep up the great work.
Great work.
To be the cutest younger brother and preferable to be in video, came with a cost,all hard work will be on you 😊❤
What a tank!
I think disassembling it in order to install it is a Bad Idea. I'd hire a Crane or Hire the Local Truss Plant Hiab Truck to install the assembly in one shot.
The only thing else I would have done different is I would have cut a bevel on each side of Top Face of the main rafters so the ends of the roof decking don't have any gap at their Ridge Intersections. Ultimately, it won't matter because of the Ridge Cap (if shingled) or Flashing (if steel) at the Main Rafters.
As long as those diagonals from the Rafters to the King Post are able to take Tension, the roof should never Squat. But arguably, because it sits up on a knee wall and there are not Ceiling Joists or Collar Ties, it is Laterally Unsupported. So those diagonals have an important job to prevent the roof from squatting and settling, pushing the knee walls outward.
IN the END: I like you work. Your mortise and tenon work is nice and tight. No big gaps or anything. PS> I love that chain-type Mortising bit. That's awesome. It's obvious you take pride in your work so good on you.
Thank you very much and we appreciate all the feedback and the thought you put behind our work, we really enjoy what we do and like to let our work show it but we still have plenty to learn!
Absolut klasse geworden. ich ziehe den Hut vor euch.
Gruß aus Deutschland
Thank you! Greetings from Wisconsin!
That's a deep pocket build.
Great job!
Brutal, sois unos cracks😊 congratulacion
just found your channel, instant subscription!!
Thank you and glad you’re enjoying it!
Perfect 👍😊
Extreamly nice work 👌
Thanks!
Excellent!!
Insane craftsmanship. $7 plastic square. Whatever works, right?!
I need that 3 metres long saw Guide! Prolly costs more than all my Tools together. 😅
Wery show congratulações 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
Try an old Dutch mill from the 16-17th century. We still dient figure out how the got em build completely without power tools and big cranes.
Impressive design and carpentry skills. Thanks, I really enjoyed watching the roof frame go together. How did you verify the trueness of the round silo to obtain the overall width dimension?
Thanks! We triple checked the inner and outer diameter dimensions at the bottom of the silo and up at the top cap. It was fairly nice and round considering it was built out of fieldstone and mortar in 1909.
Tee-nons. Tee-nons. Tee-nons. 😄
Yes sir, lots of them and a little tricky to get them on a 22.5 degree angle for an octagon layout!
@@Worzalla_Brothers - I don't think you get it :-) It's not pronounced tee-nons. It's pronounced teh-nuhn.
looks good, thanks
good work lads. The pronunciation of tenon is not tee-non it is ten-un.
Thanks for mentioning, haha! The work and the video quality are top notch but that single pronunciation was killin’ me. I was like “maybe this an inside joke amongst them”
I assumed it was a joke
Great!
Stereotomy Impressive
Another guy from the past that would enjoy your is Ted Benson
Very impressive but would like more details on how they worked out all of the angles.
To be honest it was a mixture of test cuts for the complicated angles but for the most part they were 22.5 degree angles because it’s an octagon. And the roof we went with a 30 degree angle
Great job. What time is need to complete this project?
We’re aiming to have it complete this spring so it can be used and enjoyed this summer. Thanks for watching!
Impressive. 👏👏👏
Amazing ❤
13:03 it's a good thing you put those hash marks in there, otherwise how would you know what wood to remove.
Cool project. But if you want to impress us old Carpenters, do them with hand tools and no computer CAD. I have built quite a few Timber structures over the years. I suppose the most challenging was the one drawn on a brown brown paper sack
Yes sir! We definitely have a lot of respect for the old methods of timber framing, we just try to expedite our projects as much as possible with these tools due to time constraints, we tend to start our designs out on scratch paper as well! Thanks for watching!
As a carpenter for 35 years...How the heck does that become profitable...I'd have to charge 150K to make that work...
Great video thank you for sharing. What software did you use to make your design with?
We used Shaper 3D for this design! Thanks and God Bless!
Amazing work guys! Where did you learn that?
Thank you, a mixture of experience, books, watching videos and good old fashioned learning from our mistakes!
Very impressive my dream job and equipment
Thanks!
apprentice level
Do tou show in any of your videos how do you measure your tenons in the timber? Or how you scribe the timber into each other marking the cuts?
In this video that’s not something we really show. We’ll try to do a better job showing and explaining this next time we’re building a timber frame
For the love of God, will someone explain to him how to pronounce "tenon!" Subscribed.
lol I think we have it now but it still might slip out once in a while
@@Worzalla_Brothers You're in good company: Tom Silva calls the other half of that joint a tenant.
Damn missed opportunity tp build a big house and using the silo as main support systemans cooling system..
Super!!!!!
Wow...amazing.
Thanks
The trimmings of the hip rafters are missing and the notches of all rafters are way too deep! Aside that ,it looks great!
I always thought it was mortise and tenon ( ten-on) but each to their own way of hearing it😂
I couldn't figure out what he was saying. I stopped the video to find out.
How long did it take to complete?
It’s out of the world!!!
We spent about 3 months putting it together in our barn before assembling on the silo, thanks for watching!
Didn't see how the secondary rafter headers were secured to the primaries. I assume with screws.
We did use lag bolts to secure those together once we assembled it on top of the silo! Thanks for watching!
What about the b8g crack in the key post!? Will it have any bearing on the future of the roof. Will it cause any problems down the road?
Great question! We stabilized the cracks with hidden lag bolts but king post is primarily all compression forces so it shouldn’t affect it either way, thanks for watching!
I don’t want to make lite of your work- because there is lotta work involved. But it’s lotta basic architectural work- maybe I’m looking at it from a little bit of experience- and you guys are young- ya know what / great job- it looks fab! Keep posting guys!👍
Tenon not tee non!😅😅
Everytime they said it was like nails on a caulk board
I thought he was saying Tee-Nawn or maybe Tee-Gnawn like something a beaver would do to a limb. Curious if he learned how to say the word by reading without ever hearing it spoken. Probably some weird regional dialect, where?
Mathematische Ingenieurin 🙏
Our mechanical engineering degrees came in handy on this one!
It would be even cooler if you wore ear protection :)
Why did you screw in the main rafters instead of pegging them?
We decided to screw them to save time and because the screws were going to be hidden by the ceiling boards. Thanks for watching!
What is the moisture content of that wood? and is it fir or oak?
It is ash which is similar to oak and it was about 12-14% out of the kiln
How are the secondary headers fastened to the primary beams?
What kind of software do you use?
👏👏👏👍
Hum ...take out the long lag screws, but dont stay under!
@MtrePierre haha yeah it’s not considered a traditional timber frame where only dowels are used but we did use lags for extra strength since this was our first timber frame project and the owner was fine with us doing it this way. We did make sure to hide all the lags behind the ceiling boards or adjacent beams so when you are standing under it, it looks like only dowels were used. Thanks for watching!