Hey Evo. New to CB and came across your channel. been really helping me get to know the game. You deserve more subs. its disappointing that a game like this isnt popular on youtube.
@@aussiegoat268 Prefecture guards, halberdiers, namkhans (seasonal unit), azaps (seasonal unit), condotierri (seasonal unit), prefecture archers. Can you tell me what all of your units are so I can tell you what to use?
@@aussiegoat268 Imperial pikes and prefecture guards will be in your build for a while. Make sure you're using the "advance" ability when there's a huge clump of enemies because you can wrap up tons of kills. With prefecture guards of course using their "prefecture drill" and then using "cover your commander", ability. The reason you should use cover your commander is because they can basically drill through one side of the unit and continue to do so and rack up damage on a couple enemies instead of doing it to several. With the rest of your build, try out your spear sergeants, although they aren't very good in the current meta, they can still do a lot of damage.
Falcos require great positioning, knowing good spots on the map for them(especially attacking), lots of map awareness and cover for them. They also get caught very very easily and any hero can kill them alone. There are some maps where you can place them on almost invulnerable spots when defending, but that's about it. The unit has a lot of drawbacks that balance their insane firepower.
Ah the good ol' Liaos(Northern Lance Cav in Frontier). After the patch you can only see a handful of these in sieges. They can still be good but needs to be more opportunistic because they don't turn everything to giblets anymore. Also, top line was kept untouched so I switched there. I miss your certain unit only sieges man. Hope you can do another one soon. Cheers.
How’s top line. I find it terrible. Too weak to handle melee. Blast is still lacking in that oomph factor. Even if you get a good shot against cavalry, its aiming is so bad, much of the potential is wasted. You probably will only see 1-8 kills from a good blast against cav
@@melt6894 top line definitely works well against cav. Very conditional against everything else. If you're using it against infantry the target must be elevated to get good shots. And Modaos definitely eat them 1 on 1.
@@anonymousunrelated5780 that’s the problem. I wish the devs put more effort into the usability of blast. I’m fine with it being only effect against cav, but it had better be EFFECTIVE against cav, which it isn’t. Modaos, pikes, grenadiers, heroes, etc. are all more effective and efficient for this task. If they even decide to rethink Liaos carefully, I would say give blast the same targeting system as the focus fire on infantry muskets to improve their usability. Make them stop, turn in the direction of the ordered attack, and then fire. As for the devastation route, I would return their AI back to normal. Nerf their AOE and their block break, but the AI was what made devastation devastating, it was smarter and quicker. This is a flanking cav, they don’t need the ability to break through the front with devastation like they could before, but they at least should be able to reward smart plays.
I am in frontier server. Liao are useless now when there is more than 16 enemy units. Cant even win again enemy Imperial Pike Guards only using V attack move.
@@Azr4el they should be able to win against a unit lazily put in auto attacks, if IPG had a good brace or if they'd use their advance then yeah i'd agree
their charge is still good, but they took a pretty heavy nerf to their main mechanic, moving them towards the enemy with X. atm, you cannot melee fight the enemy with monastics, because they get stunned on hit by every unit or hero, they still have a pretty decent charge and huge amounts of hp, they were like liaos a bit when playing them, because you went in with the charge and then used them to melee the enemy, atm they are like slower, heavy armor hussars with less damage per model, but more packed together due to its wedge formation.
They are the tank of the cavalry, they can’t break through pike walls like high level hussars can and they don’t devastate like Liaos, but they can take quite a few hits and therefore have a decent chance of getting out alive
It's hard to cover it as a topic in one video as its such a broad topic with lots of different factors affecting it, hopefully try and give a few tips and suggests in each video though so hopefully over a few videos it starts to give a better idea :)
Nothing special about them. They are on the "need promotion" list now. They used to rule the battle with follow charge which works like skill 2 of Yeoman promoted and deal 4k dmg. Not anymore.
Liao’s is still good on Frontier. All the people saying the nerf ruined them just can’t use non-stacked units. They probably stalwart, berserker and pavise spam like the trash they are...
Yes. Despite the nerf, liaos still out perform firelance. However, if you are looking for a good cav experience, choose hussars, armigers, jav cav, or monastics. All other cav is a waste.
I actually almost did a video on it but thought given pretty much every content creator on youtube already had I didn't have much to add XD But in short would much rather they didn't add in boosters, but it certainly won't stop me from playing the game + I slightly suspect given the weight of feedback they have recieved they will certainly be thinking twice about what they choose to add in!
I think they should just put the activation delay back on and take away their immunity and they would be fine but from the videos I’ve seen they are getting the kheshig treatment and it’s just gonna be another gold unit that’s just there to take up barracks slot it’s a shame they keep repeating the process gonna lose a lot of player base after this cause it’s happened multiple times at this point like they can’t even kill a unit when you devistate them in the back lmfao such a joke
This unit quickly became my most hated unit in this entire game, like, it's so stupidly overpowered it's not even fun. I'm hoping for hardcore nerfs on this one
Ahhh, the game's most braindead unit, all you need to do press 3 when it is highlighted then enjoy. No need to aim, no need to see your unit, no need to think anything... Anyone who has a "3" key can use it to the full efficiency. In frontier, it is nerfed hard but mygames still didn't apply that patch on purpose, so they can keep milking players from unit challenges. Shame, shame, shame...
Thanks for showing folks why this nerf needed to happen for this unit. They are too overpowered.
Hey Evo. New to CB and came across your channel. been really helping me get to know the game. You deserve more subs. its disappointing that a game like this isnt popular on youtube.
Hey man, glad the vids have been helpful getting you up to speed :)
@@EvoLozGaming Do you have any tips on what good unit loudouts are. or just good and easy units that do well.
@@aussiegoat268 Prefecture guards, halberdiers, namkhans (seasonal unit), azaps (seasonal unit), condotierri (seasonal unit), prefecture archers. Can you tell me what all of your units are so I can tell you what to use?
@@Kublaioi I have Spear Sergeants LVL 9, Imperial Pike LVL 10, Prefecture Guards LVL 10, Halberdiers LVL 4, Squires LVL 12, Demesne Spearmen LVL 4, Pike Milita LVL 11, Demesne Javelineers LVL 4, Village Watchmen LVL 1, Incendiary Archers LVL 6, Ironcap Arquebuisers LVL 3 and Ironcap Scout Cav Lvl 1.
@@aussiegoat268 Imperial pikes and prefecture guards will be in your build for a while. Make sure you're using the "advance" ability when there's a huge clump of enemies because you can wrap up tons of kills. With prefecture guards of course using their "prefecture drill" and then using "cover your commander", ability. The reason you should use cover your commander is because they can basically drill through one side of the unit and continue to do so and rack up damage on a couple enemies instead of doing it to several. With the rest of your build, try out your spear sergeants, although they aren't very good in the current meta, they can still do a lot of damage.
Also knows as “Liao’s cancer” or “almost as bad as Falconetti”.
I mean at least falcos have big drawbacks and take a bit of skill. Liaos are just haha time to press 3
Yeah I really struggle with falco XD but yeah the liao are pretty decently strong
Falcos require great positioning, knowing good spots on the map for them(especially attacking), lots of map awareness and cover for them. They also get caught very very easily and any hero can kill them alone.
There are some maps where you can place them on almost invulnerable spots when defending, but that's about it. The unit has a lot of drawbacks that balance their insane firepower.
@@Ol_White_Fatalis the amount of dopamine when you kill a whole unit and just lead like nothing happened
my literal sleep paralysis demons are liao's
haha they certainly can be pretty nightmareish!
From frontier. After the nerf, most attacks from Skill 2 and 3 just miss a lot most of the time.
Finaly, looking forward to that on my.com
Pre-nerf, our Liao users were getting 100-150 kills per charge on can-friendly cap points. They know the nerf is justified. 😂
Ah the good ol' Liaos(Northern Lance Cav in Frontier). After the patch you can only see a handful of these in sieges. They can still be good but needs to be more opportunistic because they don't turn everything to giblets anymore. Also, top line was kept untouched so I switched there.
I miss your certain unit only sieges man. Hope you can do another one soon. Cheers.
How’s top line. I find it terrible. Too weak to handle melee. Blast is still lacking in that oomph factor. Even if you get a good shot against cavalry, its aiming is so bad, much of the potential is wasted. You probably will only see 1-8 kills from a good blast against cav
I wish blast made it so they at least aimed at an enemy.
@@melt6894 top line definitely works well against cav. Very conditional against everything else. If you're using it against infantry the target must be elevated to get good shots. And Modaos definitely eat them 1 on 1.
@@anonymousunrelated5780 that’s the problem. I wish the devs put more effort into the usability of blast. I’m fine with it being only effect against cav, but it had better be EFFECTIVE against cav, which it isn’t. Modaos, pikes, grenadiers, heroes, etc. are all more effective and efficient for this task. If they even decide to rethink Liaos carefully, I would say give blast the same targeting system as the focus fire on infantry muskets to improve their usability. Make them stop, turn in the direction of the ordered attack, and then fire. As for the devastation route, I would return their AI back to normal. Nerf their AOE and their block break, but the AI was what made devastation devastating, it was smarter and quicker. This is a flanking cav, they don’t need the ability to break through the front with devastation like they could before, but they at least should be able to reward smart plays.
I only just got them :( They are OP though.
I am in frontier server. Liao are useless now when there is more than 16 enemy units. Cant even win again enemy Imperial Pike Guards only using V attack move.
rip
Good, they should not be able to win against their counter to begin with.
lol seems like when devs nerf a unit they make it utterly useless🤣
@@Azr4el they should be able to win against a unit lazily put in auto attacks, if IPG had a good brace or if they'd use their advance then yeah i'd agree
Is it worth upgrading them to Northern lancer?
Do you use obs and if you do how does one make recording not stutter
evo pls let me know the song you use in your videos , are they from the shrine of bilbo beggins ?
Very impressive comment for very impressive unit, i'll try to get more creative next time in guess :V
haha XD
ayyy EVO im almost able to unlock monastics, do you ever use them and are they like liao's ? also love the vid as always
their charge is still good, but they took a pretty heavy nerf to their main mechanic, moving them towards the enemy with X. atm, you cannot melee fight the enemy with monastics, because they get stunned on hit by every unit or hero, they still have a pretty decent charge and huge amounts of hp,
they were like liaos a bit when playing them, because you went in with the charge and then used them to melee the enemy, atm they are like slower, heavy armor hussars with less damage per model, but more packed together due to its wedge formation.
They are the tank of the cavalry, they can’t break through pike walls like high level hussars can and they don’t devastate like Liaos, but they can take quite a few hits and therefore have a decent chance of getting out alive
Yeah monastics can still be nice :)
Is it hard to get them, like are there manny season challenges before u can unlock them?
Could you do more Videos with facecam? I really enjoy it.
Test after nerf?
That's what I wanna see
:D Hi guys, I am a new player and I just have Liao's ranger and winged hussar. I wonder which is more powerful currently?
nowwww, dagger-axe lancers buff? or cataphracts buff?
Both certainly need it!
I want them to buff cover commander charge, it’s such a cool thing, but it just doesn’t work.
Can you make a tutorial how to be better in sieges
Use maul and laios rangers and be the cancer of this game!
It's hard to cover it as a topic in one video as its such a broad topic with lots of different factors affecting it, hopefully try and give a few tips and suggests in each video though so hopefully over a few videos it starts to give a better idea :)
Rangers are so OP
They can certainly be pretty powerful!
By the way, does anyone know what’s the deal with the cataphract lancers, like, what makes them special?
Nothing special about them. They are on the "need promotion" list now. They used to rule the battle with follow charge which works like skill 2 of Yeoman promoted and deal 4k dmg. Not anymore.
yeah cataphracts are a pretty terrible unit
Liao’s is still good on Frontier. All the people saying the nerf ruined them just can’t use non-stacked units. They probably stalwart, berserker and pavise spam like the trash they are...
Oh my
XD
5months of suffering
i should ask if it is worth upgrading the fire lance to this
Yes. Despite the nerf, liaos still out perform firelance. However, if you are looking for a good cav experience, choose hussars, armigers, jav cav, or monastics. All other cav is a waste.
are you in touch with the devs
Not directly
@@EvoLozGaming cause it would be cool to add a new unit such as maybe a giant or something.
Yay
Did the unit end up getting the nerf?
What server are you playing on
I'm on Eu west 1 server
@@EvoLozGaming i am on eu west 5, i dont like eu cause everyone is maxed out
Revisiting liaos before nerf?
Not for any particularly educational value, I more just fancied playing them XD
Aaaaaah haha that makes sense. Think this way as well, now you have pre-nerf gameplay that you can do a comparison in another vid post-nerf
Sadly after the nerf those units can’t even can be compared with T3 selemchids
Finally, inner peace
inf game only cav usslesss now
What’s your opinion on New World putting in micro transactions?
I actually almost did a video on it but thought given pretty much every content creator on youtube already had I didn't have much to add XD But in short would much rather they didn't add in boosters, but it certainly won't stop me from playing the game + I slightly suspect given the weight of feedback they have recieved they will certainly be thinking twice about what they choose to add in!
@@EvoLozGaming let’s hope, I don’t want it to turn into elder scrolls online
I think they should just put the activation delay back on and take away their immunity and they would be fine but from the videos I’ve seen they are getting the kheshig treatment and it’s just gonna be another gold unit that’s just there to take up barracks slot it’s a shame they keep repeating the process gonna lose a lot of player base after this cause it’s happened multiple times at this point like they can’t even kill a unit when you devistate them in the back lmfao such a joke
This unit quickly became my most hated unit in this entire game, like, it's so stupidly overpowered it's not even fun. I'm hoping for hardcore nerfs on this one
They can beat imperial pike advance without taking casualties. I can't wait for the nerf
Ahhh, the game's most braindead unit, all you need to do press 3 when it is highlighted then enjoy. No need to aim, no need to see your unit, no need to think anything... Anyone who has a "3" key can use it to the full efficiency. In frontier, it is nerfed hard but mygames still didn't apply that patch on purpose, so they can keep milking players from unit challenges. Shame, shame, shame...
Most of the time the my.com patches run a week or so behind frontier, hopefully it'll be out monday, tuesday on our version
Sadly Liao are useless now in frontier :( they nerfed them really hard
Like keshik and mounted cho ku nu :/ this balance team is lame
I'll have to give them another test once we get the patch on our version
im first
Nice :D
They are totally unusable in frontier now. Even condos can wipe them out
Will be interesting to test them once we get the patch
Yuck
XD