What Are The Differences Between NINJA & SHINOBI? The 600 Years of History And Many Other Names
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2024
- Ninja related manga and anime are very popular and famous, I am a big fan of Naruto myself. But in these stories, they sometimes call themselves “shinobi” as well.
How are ninja and shinobi different?
So today, I will first briefly explain the history of ninja, and then talk about the differences between ninja and shinobi. At the end of the video, I will talk a little about the women ninjas, “kunoichi” as well.
However please understand that there are many many studies and theories about ninjas, and some of them suggest the complete opposite of what I will introduce today.
If you know about other theories or if there is anything I have left out, please share with me in the comments below!
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0:00 Let's START!
1:18 The history of Ninja & Shinobi
5:21 The differences between Ninja & Shinobi
7:20 Who “Kunoichi” are
8:21 Today’s conclusion
10:17 “Omake” talk
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A video I've made from a request I've received through the comments! Thank you very much!
What other "differences" would you like to know about?
Ninjas and Samurais
The different japanese weapons and their roles in combat.
Make a video about the noble families that are still existing today and their roles in japanese society.
I always wondered if and how castles in Japan remained safe from artillery. They consisted of a lot more wood and a lot less stone and mortar than western castles.
i heard there where two big school of shinobi could you explain the difference?
Boruto's dad seems a pretty interesting guy. They should make a series about him some day
(This was a joke)
I was thinking the same thing. They can call it something like "My Ninja Way", or "Yellow Haired Wild Child", or something.
😂💯
How dare you ☠️
Hahaha
One difference between Ninja and Shinobi: "Ninja" as a term means "One who endures" and "Shinobi" means "To conceal oneself".
Written, too: ninja (忍者) and shinobi (忍び).
Knife to the heart + person (sha // zhe3) = ninja
Knife to the heart + び (bi) = shinobi
I believe you are correct to translate 忍 as "to endure", but actually a knife to the heart suggest something way more suicidal. I would translate as someone who "kills" emotion / "sharpens" (刀) their mind (心), or even who is "already dead"; in a way, a ghost. Of course, I guess, is someone who transcends pain.
@@dimasgomez I see. Thank you for the Enlightenment.
@Tyrian Hawke Ok Weaboo :)
I've searched up and down and can't find anything that says ninja means "one who endures"
I thought ninja means stealthy person.
Nin = stealthy
Ja = person
I have become very interested in the history of Ninja's as I am creating a new line of anime characters for my granddaughter so that she becomes interested in Japanese culture. Your video explains a lot of the historical origins I was not fully aware of which gives me even more insight to the contributions of the Ninja in Japanese culture and society. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Very interesting. I always thought "Shinobi" refers to the male "Ninja" and female "Kunoichi" collectively, like how "chicken" refers to "hen" and "rooster"
Technology it does but that wasn't established until after the kunoichi came out so there would be distinction
Pretty rational way to think of it, but generally speaking the word Ninja wasn't even used until pop culture started becoming a thing.
Yh me too but chicken doesn't refer to hen and rooster, chicken is the meat you get from the hen and rooster just like beef is what you get from cows and chevon is the meat gotten from goat and mutton from sheep
@@ElnachoSupreme_9 That's poultry.
But female ninjas are also referred to as shinobi.
Honestly shogo is the only person i won't fall asleep during Japanese history class.
How?.....hes SHOGU san
I would
Same i wouldnt
You would actually ,he is just talking about a intresting topic so you have wrote this.
Yes I heard he secretly used to practice Shugendo. Careful! I certainly wouldn't cross him
I love Zabuza and the scene where he finally accepts his emotions and love for Haku, and goes on a rampage in his name and kills the ACTUAL bad guy of the story. 100/10 would watch over and over again
Yeah, I love that scene, the death scene will always make me sad
he doesnt have love for haku
he was thankful and grateful for everything haku did
"love"?
@@mixedrealityy love doesn't mean just romantic love it can just mean like a familiar bond like a brother or son
My favorite scene honestly was when Neji died and Lee screamed out for him. I love it so much because it shows how deep of a connection they had. Still gives me chills
I love Demon Slayer and it was very cool seeing Lord Tengen portrayed as a member of a shinobi clan and his wives as kunoichi in the anime.
While it is commonly understood that Kunoichi means "Female Ninja", deeper sources of ninja documentation, such as the BANSENSHUKAI state that "Kunoichi" is a jutsu (technique), and not a title (such as "female ninja"). Further, it states that there are male "kunoichi", as well.
Simply put, "Kunoichi-no-jutsu" is the practice of using oneself as a tool for gaining trust from the target, and extracting information from them. As often could be the case, through sexual means. (But other tasks were included, as well.)
However, in situations where a target was not enticed by females, but, instead by males..........then male kunoichi were considered for the task. Though largely omitted from history books, the practice of male-to-male did occur historically in Japan.....and was even practiced in various warrior classes, such as samurai, ninja, and possibly even religious figures, such as priests, though, it can be debated. But again, this was often intentionally left out in the pages of history..............which almost always depends on who commissions and writes the history books.
ok cool thanks for the fun facts
That’s interesting! Well, there’s like using the art of seduction to get what you want...
Great they should go ahead and keep it out of there get an amnesia 🤦♂️😤🤷♂️🙄✌🇯🇵
@Shin Shaman I mean, by your logic you wouldn't know either as you weren't alive to witness it
Yep, we have always existed. Always will.
I'm curious why Oda Nobunaga is so popular in Japanese pop culture? He seems to be thrown in all sorts of anime and japanese videogames! Is he just a popular historical figure? If you haven't already, maybe do a video focused on him?
Hope Shogo explain why he was call Demon King of Sixth Heavens
I mean the different between Demon and Heaven.
@@staylatewithemotions4978 I want to hear about Fool of Owari, Demon King and other etymologies too. I heard conflicting explanations that some called him Demon King because of ruthlessness but others said it was because he loved imported red wine, which looked like blood to Japanese. Also that he was called "a fool" for hanging out with people below his rank and was eating while on foot.
From what i've heard, he is ambitious and pure evil that he even massacred the innocents along with his enemies
I believe its likely due to the fact that he played a very pivotal role in Japanese history combined with the fact that he was known to be incredibly eccentric/ ruthless with a very strong character that makes him stand out.
I often wonder what if Oda or Toyotami took over Japan instead of Tokugava.
I’m so happy to learn you like Naruto. My favorite character male is Itachi, he suffered so much, and seems to portray the aspects of the ‘ninja’ best- spying and concealing. My favorite female characters are Konan and Guren (the crystal user). Konan’s silent dedication to building a trap for years impresses me. Guren’s change of heart and recognition of the importance of emotional connections was also beautifully written.
itachi is not a Saint, he's a murderer who put his brother into a genjutsu and let him suffer
I learned quite a bit actually. I thought Ninja were more like spies while shinobi were more like assassins. Learned quite a bit my man. Massive respect my man.
They spied but there were assassins as well
I was told, quite erroneously it seems, that Ninja was just a catch all term for a clan specialized in various underhanded but valuable skills like spies, assassins and saboteurs, while a Shinobi was basically a Ninja that has no clan, like a Samurai with no master becomes a Ronin.
@@ShaimingLong didn't knew what a ronin is. Thanks. As ninjas had many names and depending on time and regions different duty's , we westerners created a word to summarise them all which is "ninja"
@@Narekz And the term we used became known as a sports bike that looks aggressively beautiful.
i lowkey expected you to tell the story of the sage of six paths as a joke
Well, it kinda did start as a cult of peace in mountains
@@hotsauce6789 fair enough
I did see something about Ninshu on that board. Which is the religion that Sage of the Six Paths started. So the writers of Naruto did get inspired by it!
@@hotsauce6789 sauce?
Fun fact :
くノ一 aka kunoichi if you join the 3 letters together you will get the kanji for 女 which stands for female in Japanese
Interesting? 😏
@@Prince-Shogun Yes : and it makes sense and i iNtuit it. And i'm Honored by OP :)
Oh yeah that’s a cool coincidence
Who's the Character in your avatar?
@@TehAbdullah Me? Royal Guard ... Like Gaara(d) in Naruto :P
I like the one scene when Kakashi used Obito eyes (Double Mangekyou Sharingan) on the Kaguya arc
He awaken the Susano ' o and boom that was perfect.
He's my favorite one
Hey Shogo, great video as always, in case you did not know Ninjota, a modified version of Ninjutsu and Jujitsu was adopted by the US Military. I trained in this art for a few years through an instructor for the military.
Really appreciate you understand a lot of ppl around the world get interested in your culture bc of anime/video games, but you arn't a jerk about it. Its a fact, and you accept that and just wanna teach ppl where all these inspirations for their favorite shows come from and differences in similar things. Thanks for these vids, your great to listen to!
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@@jamesguanzing4402 ok.
Favourite character : Shikamaru
Favourite scene : when he pretended to be caught in genjutsu during chunin exam arc
Hahahahhahahhaha
I remember the dog saying he could touch the paw pads if he would do the um... nvm i dont really remember
Your videos are so excellent and such a pleasant experience to watch. Thank you for this one! I didn't know pretty much any of this information and find it extremely interesting. Much love and appreciation for your thoughtfulness and insights!
One of my favorite quotes for the meaning of the Ninja kanji is, "Even though the enemy holds their blade over my heart, I will endure, persevere and eventually prevail."
Got me through life.
Funny you should say that, because there is a similar quote in Naruto [SPOILERS]
When Sasuke asks Hashirama "What is a Shinobi", he replies:
"Shinobi are people who endure to achieve their goals… but depending on what they choose as their goal they change… like Madara and I…"
One caveat about the kunoichi: while it is true that you probably would not find them on the battlefield acting as scout fighters, they probably DID have SOME martial arts training and likely carried a few small weapons for protection, like the women of the nobility. But you are right in that their spy work was typically (likely exclusively) done in a civilian setting rather than a military one.
I use to be obsessed with Ninja's from back in the 80's when I saw one on a TV show. This was pre internet so I bought books on ninjitsu and read as much as I could about them.
@Der Bettnässer go study tree bujinkan for authentic Ninjutsu
Pretty cool
That's one of my favorite scenes man! This was a great video, one question I've had for a long time! Thanks!
Mochizuki Chiyome was the most famous of Kunoichi's. There is a channel that went into great detail about famous Japanese mythos revolving around samurai, shinobi, legends. Others that were focused were Miyamoto Musashi, Hattori Hanzo, and Ishikawa Goemon. (It's the Legends of history channel.) I was very fascinated by the lore explained in that channel.
Nice job with this video. Definitely subscribing. :)
video came out a few seconds/ 1-2 minutes ago, already has a dislike. Those haters are comitted man wtf
It’s the ninjas, they wanted their lore to remain secret
Thats from Sakura
@@fiqriq7273 lol!
My favorite is Might Guy and Rock Lee collectively! That "work hard" ethic is so phenomenal and had inspired me more than once!
Loved the video, Shogo! If possible, can you talk more on the origins of certain anime? I've been enamored with Japanese mythology since i was in high school (3 decades ago)!
100%
A lot of work and research are put into this videos , and I especially like the conclusion part since it summarizes the points you make in a brief and understandable way
RUclips's rabbit hole brought me here, so glad it did. I didn't know any of this. Thank you very much for taking the time to make such an informative and entertaining video!
For those who like some more resources, you may search up:
1) Bansenshukai
2) Hatsumi Masaaki
3) Bujinkan Honbu Dojo Japan
All 3 of these are bullshido frauds.
1:12 that hurted, so badly... didnt even need translation
shogo im glad I came across your channel......bcz this is something special to some of us...and let us know how we can help you ...and to be a part of a community, a life style... that is just getting started to rule the future...
I've Always thought they were the same. I thought Ninja was the art form and Shinobi was just the name of the clan. Glad it was explained properly.
I had always heard the depiction and role of ninjas in pop culture was inaccurate and they were basically the equivalent of spies and were more commonly blending in with disguise rather than dark robes in the shadows assassinating people. Seems that both the East and West chose to go with the more fantastical depiction just because it's cooler and makes for more entertaining media
You are correct. If they had worn black outfits and carried a “ninja” sword they would stick out in society. The actual scrolls describe dressing as common Japanese folks, learning the local language, etc. Basically, learning to fit in with wherever you were going.
Well, I mean, humans are known for their imagination so is it really that surprising for us to over exaggerate and romanticize things?
While relying heavily on magic and fantasy "Ninja Scroll" was still an eye opener, it was the first time I realized that Ninja had no need to wear the black night suit they are famously connected with. Ninja Scroll also showed that some Ninja were only meant to be spies and collect information while engaging in subterfuge. There are many plot twists throughout the movie that make the viewer realize how important the art of deception is vs the art of brute strength. There are even some minor historical points about the Iga and Koga, the Tokugawa etc.
You've more than met your goal of 100,000! So honored to learn, appreciate your teaching.
Interesting. Thank you! I always wondered what the differences of the two were. I appreciate the detailed breakdown that went even further to describe other titles from these historical figures.
I would like to hear what Shogo thinks and knows about Chiyome Mochizuki, the most famous Kunoichi, who is believed to be related to Shingen Takeda the powerful warlord that is also mentioned in this video.
I wonder why kids likes so much of ninjas, I was totally in love with JIRAIYA ("Sekai Ninja Sen Jiraiya"), a tokusatsu of the 80's, Jiraiya was my model hero of that time, even surpassing Superman or Batman.
LOL, I think for any kid, anyone who can do things out of the ordinary is cool and is deemed worthy of their admiration.
Yeah.. RIP Jiraiya
This was very helpful and educational, thank you ^^
My Favorite ones are Kakashi, Kankuro & Shino.
I loved the fight between the latter two so much!
I love how polite you are 😊
Kudos Shogo! I love how structured and well thought out these videos are, while considering that there are other research regarding the matter. As a side note, is it possible for you to also consider making Japanese language lessons? I just noticed how well you pronounce English words and the diverse vocabulary you have, it's definitely an asset when it comes to accurate translations and teaching beginners. I'm sure a lot of viewers would want to learn from you. Thank you so much for all the lessons!
Paul, hi. I totally agree with you. To include Japanese language lessons would be great but only if Shogo has the time. I think the way he presents himself and the calmness of pronunciation and accuracy would benefit many !
You certainly do history very entertaining. I am virtually new to your channel, but I have already watched many videos and lot of shorts and they have all been very interesting. Thanks for sharing your culture! 👍🏼👌🏼
As of today, 1.02M subscribers. I think you blew past that 200,000 subscriber goal. :D Congrats on your huge success!
That daisho behind you is breathtaking! I'm a huge Shikamaru fan, and any scene where he uses his mind to defeat a problem is my favourite!
I try to keep my knowledge up. I'm writing a book, and this helps out a lot. Thanks, man!
Buddy this is awesome explained thanks for new knowlege and i hope you have a great day!!!
I’m learning so much through this channel! I would love a video about traditional fashion. I can’t find much on traditional fashion and I want to know the differences in robe patterns and colours and layering.
I also want to know at least the basic types of kimono, when they appeared and how each type is different and what occasions they are worn.
So did Iga and Koga clans existed? 🤔🤔
They did but they were most likely the ruling clans of their respective prefectures
It was more likely martial traditions passed among the warrior clans of these provinces. They tended to have relatively few people and were quite independent, often functioning as mercenaries during the warring states are.
It is said that Hattori Hanzo's own family was from Iga, and he is probably the most famous historical figure associated with ninja (and probably a big reason why the Tokugawa shogunate kept some as retainers).
Yes
You can check "iga and koka ninja skills" book on Amazon. It's a neat translation of ninja scrolls
Yup they do, and yes, Naruto did exist too.. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
best video EVER!!!!!!! chiseledadonis i applaud you for introducing me to this sport.
Such an awesome and fascinating story of history love your channel
80's ninja movies and pop culture depiction promoted the ninja from zero to hero.
Finally the number 1 explanation of the birth of the "ninjas" I have heard of in my early study of martial arts, but no one on other ninjutsu oriented channels seemed to know or remember of that story, whether it be a myth or a legend (myths and legends are not the same. A legend has an historical background but has been embellished in a way.). Go Shogo!
Nice work! Insightful and well delivered! ~Adam
Thank you for the wealth of information that you provide!
If possible, could you someday perhaps explain the history of how the tabi came to be incorporated into ninja garb?
Best wishes to you and the continued success of your channel. Have a great day!
This is much needed for my personal research. I'm on my journey to write fiction and I needed to know what ninja are in an efficient way. I'm sure I'll deep dive into other sources but for now something to jumpstart without falling for cliches. 🧡
LOL, as someone who loves fiction, I love doing my own personal research as you never know where my curiosity could lead me to next!
Now I wonder if Jiraya's design is based on Takeda Shingen. Long, white mane and loves the ladies. Thanks for the great video!
Ninja : make some hiding move in every corner.
Shinobi : RASENGANNN, CHIDORIII
Amazing video, but your growth is what amazes me even more! You wanted to aim for 100K subs by January, but got over 9x your goal! That's actually insane!
When I was in Japan, after I met Shogo 😁 I was in Iga Village, in Mie, and there is one of the most important ninja village in Japan! It was really really cool experience, where you can show how was the life of the Shinobis.
Except that something ninja villages never existed. The samurai Hattori clan that ruled in Iga Province was small and used guerrilla warfare. And as a result, they were hired as spies from other clans. And that was also the reason why they were exterminated.
I'm looking forward to this channel growing just like I have watched others do so. Fantastic channel! Thank you for your knowledge!
"100,000 subs by January 2022" Woah, you smashed that goal, man. Great job! And i'm happy to add myself among the million! Great video!
I learned so much from you sensei Shogo. Thank you 🙇🏾♂️
Rooting for your channel! Quality content as always! Thank you for quenching our hunger for knowledge of Japanese culture!
Mark my words, you'll have more than 50k subs before January ends.
If it was quality content he would have taken the time to read some books and documents disproving most of the garbage he's presenting here.
Me too, so facinated with Japanese, Chinese, and other cultures.
Taisho era’s “Ninsha” sounds pretty much like “ninja”...
Very nice research and video style
For some reason, I don’t remember when or where, I had the idea that ninja/shinobi primary service was an early form of a postal service. Glad to learn more about it. Thanks.
After many years, I finally know why the ninjas in Senran Kagura game are named Shinobi and the main character is called Asuka. Thanks for the history lesson.
Thank you for putting together in a nutshell of Shinobi history! My introduction to Ninja was the TV show "Mito Komon." I used to watch it in New Jersey when I was a kid back in the late 70's and early 80's. Then there was the "Ninja Boom" in the movie theaters. Of course anime and manga is saturated with NINJA! In the US Army (during combat tour Afghnisatan) I was introduced to the martial arts practiced by the Bujinkan in the early 2000's. Now I live in Aomori still practicing with the Bujinkan and other martial arts traditions. Ninja history is so vast....that I'm sure you can do a series on Ninja alone! Once again thank you Shogo!
Sugoi! konnichiwa! I'm glad your channel was recommended by my interest 🙏🏽❤️❤️❤️
Thanks for the information sensei!!! I've learn a lot.
FInally! Someone who mentions Kunoichi! I refer to them all the time and people look at my like I'm crazy......
Well yeah because here too they're represented as high ranking infiltrators, for which there is no historical evidence. This video is garbage and lacks any historical reference. It's 80s style fantasies that have solidly been disproven.
I just love your videos so much!! I'm so happy that I discovered this channel!
Love your channel I learned a lot
Was always confused when I was playing Sekiro as to why they don’t just call them ninja, thanks for this insightful video on the differences on ninja and shinobi
As a Nisei with Kagoshima-Niigata breed, I do felt like a harsh but proud man just like Kakashi. He's tough, he's cold, he's non-emotional, but he cares for others in secrecy, and he teaches his students well.
I really like how youre video's are so calm and easy to follow. Keep up the good work and cheers from the Netherlands.
this dudes so likable, super informative and understandable.
Thank you for the insights into your heritage and culture I appreciate it, your teachings have made my day more bright. Peace☮️
Really appreciate it. Was waiting for this 👍👍
It is wonderful to hear about the Japanese culture and how its different from the western ones. Thank you for this.
Subbed. Really enjoyed this video and learned some new things.
I Actually somehow learn about Edo period through Gintama.
My favorite character by far is Luffy. The way he follows that Marine around in the G-8 filler arc was just an immortal moment... wait, that's One Piece. Pirates forever!
Ah the legendary filler arc of the G-8
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!❤️
Thank you for this video!
that was tremendously interesting. Thank you for the lesson. *liked and subbed
Hello Shogo, I can't believe it took so long for me to discover your channel. I am a reasonably advanced H.E.M.A. (Historical European Martial Arts) practitioner; I have been learning, training, and occasionally teaching for roughly 25 years. At this point in my life with the sword, it is not just the blade but the warrior's mind I strive to understand. One of those minds is terribly overlooked: the female samurai, like the fictional Lady Yae. Could you tell us a little about female warriors in feudal Japan?
my favorite is Rock Lee being mentored by Might Guy. Too funny. and my favorite scene is when Naruto stumbling on Hinata bathing in the river at night and seeing her in the moonlight. He finally notices her for the first time. To know that they marry in Boruto is satisfying.
what episode ?
Foreshadowing.
Sakura was never the one & never deserved Naruto’s love. I honestly wished she got stuck with Sasuke’s Love Child from Karen.
Thanks for your info about the different between shinobi and ninja
big thank to you. That was best information for me about this topic
the words from naruto at the start made me squieek like a toy i love it! great videos friend!
Now Pa Rappa the Rappa makes perfect sense.
Thank you for the info buddy !
THE DIFFRENCE:
just swords and weapons
shinobi
RESANGAN
Fun fact: Kusa means grass, kusa also used as "Lol" in modern japan which is why some overseas fans of japanese streamers started using "Grass" as their "Lol".
Grass
they popularized usada pekora before it was cool
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@@dominicalvin Ah.. We are on the same page peko.
Hello there brothers.
They call them grass because the modus operandi of those people were ambush from the long grasses/thick bushes. I even read something about how samurai convoy often burn down the grass before passing or took a detour to avoid potential ambushes.
I've been watching naruto again and stumbled upon this video :D very informative! I love it 🥺 also one of the best things to happen in naruto is ino and sai getting together 🙏 they're perfect
I always wanted a video about this! 😎
Amazing video!