"Jarhead" Vietnam Veteran on Bus
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- A scene towards the end of the film in "Jarhead" where Swoff and his men are on a bus going through a parade Stateside, and a Vietnam vet gets aboard. In my opinion, it's a very strong scene. *Disclaimer: I do not own this movie nor any of its rights.
This scenes really hits hard, that vet is trying to experience the welcome home he was never given.
During the Gulf War, late at night some young 18 year old trooper looked at our sergeant major and said, “we’re going to win this one for you guys sergeant major.” The sergeant major has served 5 tours with the 173rd Airborne in Nam. He was so moved he exited misty eyed.
That’s actually Deep man. Thank you the Food for Thought is Appreciated. If any veterans are reading this please know we love you and God Loves All. Always Faithful
Uncle was a Marine in Nam, asked him about his transition back to regular life. Said he never had been so humilated or made to feel so ugly in his life, he was spat on, had beer thrown at him, trash thrown at him, he was chased and has his car trashed. the craziest part is he never fought back because he felt so guilty and ugly. Mind you my Uncle was crazy and fought everything, just this one time they got under his skin mentally and he couldn't fight back. Wild.
He wanted to sit on the bus and maybe feel what it was like to be welcomed home. The Vietnam War was so terrible on so many different levels. :(
Danny B Americans had no business there.
HacksignKT So true.
They were just doing the job they were told to do, regardless if we had no business being there, it's still a shame how they were treated.
Yeah and they could have handled it themselves. We didn't get involved because of that, either...it was a shot at the Russians.
You are wrong
1 million Cambodians died after America pulled out
Speaking as a veteran, he wanted the feeling of being back in the brotherhood one more time. Noticed he asked to sit down so that he can feel he was back in.
+Frank Sejas Seemed he was more shocked and scared then nostalgic. Being back around Marines probably brought up a bunch of repressed feelings which triggered his PTSD.
+majorevangelism true I think it was a mix of both
@@majorevangelism it was nostalgia, and happiness. He was not shocked or scared lol
Veterans feel the safest when they are surrounded by other veterans, wtf are you talking about
I take this scene as the Vietnam vet trying to feel welcomed, because the reaction of those marines coming home and the reaction of marines from vietnam were much different.
I cant imagine how it must of been to see and do horrible things only to come home and have most people hate you for it. When for most it was forced on them anyway.
The second half of the scene where he sits down emphasizes the realization on both sides of what they have done. And how no matter the war and intensity of combat, they are one in the same.
Belgian Army infantry & US Army Armor Crewman veteran here.
You hit the nail on the head.
I noticed that too right away.
Looking at the other comments on here with a bunch of "likes" , it rly shows people have no clue.
Not that I blame them for it. You gotta experience it ti understand.
The Vietnam vet didn’t receive a warm welcome, but saw probably more combat than the entire bus together… fuckin‘ ironic
Dude was out there in the mud and guts and probably never even got a damned “Thank you sir” such a shame
@@sosaboi1352why though? It was the Vietnam War. No reason to thank young men going to die for corrupt politicians, they need help not a thanks
@@gorkaaustin5306 Thanks for having the courage to go through even if they didn’t believe in it or wanted to go out there while others got to stay and home. And they couldve hurt themselves or fled the country and didnt, its thanks for serving our country doesnt matter who the politicians were or what war it was, our dudes went over there because the country asked them to and yes they deserve better help but to not say thanks is retarded
@@gorkaaustin5306because it is the polite thing to do. Treating people badly and then expecting them to reintegrate with society is foolish
Most Vietnam vets did receive warm welcomes. It's a myth perpetuated by western media.
The silence of the guys coming home knowing there's a strong possibility that this guy will be them in about 15 years. Shout-out to all the Vietnam vets who welcomed me home even at 3AM so we wouldn't experience what they did.
and it's true. decades after 9/11, me and countless others are fucked up, wondering, what was it for? why did I do it? was it worth it? why are all these people thanking me? All I want is to be around my friends again. But it'll never happen. I pray we never enter another retarded conflict in my lifetime. I hope my son, is never asked or convinced to do what we did. But it'll happen. And who am I then? This guy, hopping on the bus, wishing it was his buddies on it. I was in the same battallion, same platoon, as swafford. 2/7 SSP(they called it STA back then). History repeats itself.
No they just didn’t experience war like he did. That’s why they were silent
Unlike present conflicts. A Vietnam veteran most likely came home on an empty bus. His buddies from boot to basics never came home. No heroes welcome, nothing... Times have changed, but those that experienced loss in combat are stuck in a cycle of hell. The title veteran gets passed around by anyone who serves, but it should be earned by the few who have actually experienced, witnessed, and survived combat.
I've always said there are specifically two types of veterans.
#1. Veterans
#2. Combat veterans.
I respect veterans, but I thank combat veterans. Signing on the dotted line is one thing, but actually putting your life actively in harm's way for your country is a completely different animal.
on the usmc subred the other day there was a MP going suicidal, was sad to see but at the same time I was disgusted.
@@tayrussell2921why disgust
@@tylercheung1194 You gotta have been in the fleet within the last decade to understand
i think the reason why the guy is much more emotional than the other marines as seen in the video is because the vietnam war was a lot more serious than the gulf war, and the fighting was much much more intense, it's kinda sad to watch this
Also the American populace acting fucking disgraceful to the vets when they came home, they were spit on.
They had the welcome home he never did and for a brief moment he was able to share in this experience with them.
Golf war wasn't even a week.
My relatives that fought in Nam even tho they were engineers and mechanics they said they had buddies over there come home to be called a baby raper or something worse and be spat on just because they fought
@@Gordon1990 That is absolutely disgraceful.
"You did it clean. You made us proud. Semper Fi. Semper F'ing Fi. Welcome home Marine. Welcome Home. Welcome Home Son. Welcome Home Staff Sergeant "
He felt a rush that he never experienced when he came back from Nam and probably not until he heard the crowds cheer with approval and young warriors being honored for their devotion, honor, and courage.
Tear came to my eye. marines pay a price. This guy paid a lot.
Not just Marines.
Very touching scene with the veteran, I'm proud to be a veteran, and I understand. He knows his job is still not done! Until we ALL come home. We got to take care of them when they return, and the years after that. You can tell he was a good NCO, like the SSG on that bus.
I disagree with most interpretations of this scene. I think Swafford was hoping for a smooth transition back into civilian life after the Marines but feels pity for this confused and distraught senior Marine, yet sees him as kind of a warning sign and unavoidable prophecy in a way. Note the discomfort of all the Marines on the bus. Hence the quotes at the end - ".....he will always remain...a jarhead." and "We are still...in the desert." - The desert in this movie being a catalyst for a type of insanity.
It is sad how nam vets were treated
VERY POWERFUL SCENE. OUR VIETNAM VETS NEVER GOT THE CREDIT THEY DESERVED. THEY WEREN'T GIVEN A WELCOME HOME PARADE, A LOT WERE SHUNNED BY SOCIETY AND CALLED BABY KILLERS. I SALUTE ALL MY VIETNAM VETS AND VETS OVERALL.
Gets me every time. Always makes me think about my uncles who served in Vietnam. They’ll always be hero’s to me!!! 🫡
This scene is perfectly done and represents the awful “welcome” our men got on their return from Vietnam. Conveniently most of those protestors must have forgot how many of them were drafted.
Most of those "protestors" were rich spoiled kids who would never get drafted anyway and just wanted an excuse to smoke weed and have sex,ofcourse they had no empathy for these vets
This scene is intense. Cried a little.
This is an amazing scene, I also love how he looks like frank woods lol
It's enough to make a grown man cry...
War. War never changes ...
Heartbreaking. He wanted so bad to show love and give the welcome home he didn’t get
This is no laughing matter, this is very real, this is meant to show you what war actually does to a person, much love to our all veterans.
Soul crushing, gut wrenching. These man was America's best, being a stoned hippie & running away was easy, doing what your country asked in a poorly run war was the hard path, God Bless the men this character represents.🙏
Always tell a Vietnam vet welcome home
Looking through the comments, there’s so many different interpretations of this moment, and none of them are wrong.
The mark of an relevant, realistic, and rich story right there
This scene had meaning
Most important scene of the movie. God bless every veteran. And remember that not all got the love and fair treatment when they returned.
you could write a movie about the emotions this actor showed...
The soldiers aren’t troubled in part because they can’t entirely empathize with him - they know they have not been into what this Vietnam veteran has been through.
This Vietnam vet made sure these Marines got the welcome home his generation never got , he got emotional because he never got a parade , celebration just hate and anger
I remember seeing this movie for the first time when I was a teenager, and thought it was super slow and kinda boring. I was expecting action packed fire fights and all the war stuff. However, when I got to this point of the movie, this marine vet gets on the bus, and clearly was having a moment because of what he saw in Vietnam, it really hit me hard. Even though this movie is a fiction, it was a real war, and thankfully the casualties were dramatically lower than Vietnam, and the war was over quick. This movie is one of my favorites of all time. Welcome to the suck!
indeed. reason why I felt the need to share the scene
At first time i saw this scene, i didnt know who was the strange dude, when i read the comments i instantly felt sad n ngl shed a tear, i cant imagine the thousands who felt underappreciated, n disrespected after that shishow that some of them didnt ask for. So many broken people returned home unappreciated. This maybe just a movie, but if i imagine how its mustve felt to those who dealt irl, hits a painful spot on my chest. Just unacceptably sad.
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Vietnam veterans just came home alone, and went to trade school, and carried on...
Vietnam was a war that killed 58,000 troops. On the other hand, the stats show that over 200,000 Vietnamese died as well
2 million Viets
*****
it was a civil war. they killed a lot of each other for defecting to the south and aiding the US + the US bombing of N. Vietnman also killed millions even though the media ignores or lies about how much the bombings killed even though they will readily admit that it was the heaviest bombing of any war.
Giving the welcome home he never got opened up an old wound.
Wouldn't be the first man to fight on wounded. Semper Fi. Lest we forget. US GB CN AU NZ
It's wild to read the comments. Seeing that Vietnam Vet was just another surreal moment that just passed by for these guys. One more weird thing to file away under "forget it if you can". I was in the Navy at the time, we launched some stuff that made the news feed on live CNN. When we got home, it was quite the welcome. I remember soaking it all in about a month later and realizing how much guilt the entire country felt for the collective way we treated the Vet's returning from Vietnam. I guess people decided they would not do that again. It all felt over-hyped and heavily politicized like the war we just engaged in. We were literally glorified pawns for the oil industry. I got out after that war, just to watch Bush 2 invade Iraq again for some other made up bullshit. I don't want a parade, I just want this country to elect better people. American's servicemen and women did not join up to fight wars for oil companies, or to parade tanks through Washington.
In a really good movie, this was the best scene. Many things said.
best part of the movie
My heart goes out to the Vietnam vets. They came home being called Baby Killer after being sent to a godforsaken jungle they didn’t even volunteer to be in. Poor Bastards.
It's crazy to think Vietnam was only 18 years seperated from Desert Storm.
Hell I didnt notice the nam vet was from 3rd Mardiv. Errah, welcome home gents.
That's the man that Jake is playing
I’ll never understand, no matter how much I read up on it, how come those men weren’t greeted with honour
Well yes I guess you can say the Vietnam veterans were treated like criminals I'm very upsetting
This shit breaks my heart. For real.
This is an incredibly poignant scene. This is one of those moments that stay with you forever not because its tragic or dramatic but because it shaves pretty close to Reality.
his shoulder patch is 3rd mardiv, not sure what unit though
This scene almost made me.want to cry semper fi
Da big homie, semper fi OG devil dog 💪🏼🫡🤙🏽
Nam vet and ww2 pacific vet are treated like shit. Only those who fought in the west are the one who praised. It makes me angry how american mistreated their own vet.
if you've never read the book it's one of the best ever
Ok, I'm goanna be straight up honest here. I'm not American, I'm British and the Vietnam war was years before my I was born, so I am intrigued to know and understand the meaning of this scene. If anyone could explain for me, I would very much appreciate.
There were no marching bands and home comings for soldiers who fought in Vietnam. The men came home with no fanfare whatsoever. As America turned against the War, the soldiers who fought in it were treated very badly at home. Spat upon and called names such as "baby killer." The ending to Jarhead shows a United States Marine who fought in Vietnam. Who went through hell there and at home. Who actually fought in combat, wanting to know what it feels like to be appreciated. The men on that bus came home to marching bands and such, are treated as heroes and they know they didn't do anything, didn't see any real combat. They feel bad that the Vietnam Vet is their brother in arms, he is a Marine, but he was treated like crap while they are treated as heroes.
The American troops had fought a long hard battle in Vietnam and on a military level these Men were winning the war but politically America was losing. Few Americans supported the war and so American troops suffered unjust consequences when they returned home and they were not seen as heroes back then like they serenate troops with heroism today. By 1973 American troops had made great progress in the war militarily speaking after repelling north vietnam time and time again and so America gave south vietnam most of the duties of fighting the rest of the war. Even though American troops had fought long and hard and seemed to be winning militarily speaking even then at a great cost, many servicemen had sacrificed their lives for a war that they knew was fruitless, even so they did their duty. From 1973-1975 however the political shame finally made America cut off all types of supply and help to the south, as America completely left the South to fight for itself, South Vietnam crumbled and the North invaded the south and won the war in 1975. American troops felt their long hard work to accomplish what they did from 64-73 was for nothing when America retreated. Because of this American troops felt betrayed by their own country they fought for, in combination of that and the wrong image that American back home had of them. All this can be summed up on this scene of the Vietnam vet on the bus. Its really sad. Vietnam servicemen are true heroes, many of them didnt even ask to go, they were drafted. Hope I helped my friend.
@@JR-sn1pi history repeats itself. Look at afghanistan. The difference is now people thank us after we come home. For what? Losing? "Defending freedom"? is that what I was doing over there? Atleast I get a $5 discount on oil changes or whatever the fuck. War is a racket.
Keep running
No one will ever understand the hell they went through in nam
Because vietnam vets didn’t get that welcome home !
Great scene
Hits like a fist 👊
Yeah but in 08 wen the boys were coming back they pissed on
After the economy crashed Iraq and Afghanistan got brushed away from the zeitgeist by both sides of the aisle.
Anyone who says one word of disrespect to this man will have to answer to me.
Poor guy
Shit. Dont need the tears. But damn, there they are.
yeah I'm like halfway through. it's fucking great
😭
Anyone know the ending scene?!?
Bit quiet.
All those ppl who protested the war by actually spitting on returning veterans, a lot of whom were drafted like my dad and uncles, will nvr deserve to be forgiven for what they did.
Semper Fucking Fi!!!!!