Investigating the con that combines romance scams and crypto fraud (Marketplace)
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- Canadians are losing millions of dollars to a devastating new cyber-scam known as “pig butchering.” It's a long-term con that combines romance scams, crypto fraud and investment schemes. CBC Marketplace talks to people who've lost their life savings and the trust of their loved ones as a result of this scam. And in a surprising twist, we reveal that many of the perpetrators are victims themselves, forced into a life of scamming.
If you think you or somebody you know may be a victim of a scam, report it to the Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre.
#Crypto #Scam #Marketplace
00:00 - ‘Pig butchering’ playbook
13:54 - Are scammers victims, too?
18:58 - Confronting the other side
20:17 - Talking to LinkedIn and Facebook
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FIRST BROADCAST February 9, 2024
Bravo to *Charge backtools* I'm so glad you're out there fighting these scumbags.
We must do everything in our power to protect the elderly and the general public from these despicable scammers. You're a true hero. my brother.
I wish there was more people like you to stop all these scammers, they need serious jail time for that, especially when they take money from the elderly, keep doing what your doing *#GlobalTraceAssets* put the wind up these low life oxygen thiefs Love what you Guys do keep up the great work mate well done Respect
Pig butchering example: You receive a text message from a wrong number. You reply - wrong number. They reply back something innocent. You reply with a lol. Next thing you know you’re texting each other, becomes friendly. They want to be friends. They take it to the next level. Before you know it - you’ve been pig butchered! Never reply “wrong number”. Don’t let them know it’s an active number. It can even be a seemingly innocent message… Hey I can’t make my doctors appointment. You’re a nice person so you reply Wrong Number. Or they send a text message that says - what time is the meeting? You’re a nice person and you wanna make sure other plans don’t get messed up so you reply wrong number. Wrong thing to do. Don’t be that nice guy. PT Barnum said it best.
That wrong number text is so annoying. One time the scammer was pushing it after I said wrong number. Talking about wanting to buy me a coffee because they are so grateful I replied wrong number so they know they weren't texting their friend. I just replied stop texting me. Never heard from them again
Just be careful and aware
It's actually pretty easy: Whatever you do, *DO NOT SEND MONEY*
Block and report those texts
I get weird texts all the time like "hey did you get my e-transfer?" or "im waiting for you now" or "are you home yet?" they're designed to illicit responses from you - i'm assuming to see if your number is active.
Basic reality has long been " if it seems to good to be true, it most likely is"
Exactly
At least ask a professional about it {your bank for example) not a random company on Facebook
🤣😂😅
True. But nearly humans don't realise that.
Right. If someone is giving away their piano, they just want it gone without paying for removal. If someone is giving away cash, its a fraud and a lie.
Facebook should be held accountable for hosting those ads that lead victims to scams.
even in whats app from nigerian scmmers
NO, People need to be held accountable for their own actions.
Facebook and other social media are just a platform for people to connect with others and for businesses to market their products. They never force anyone to make decisions. Instead of blaming others, the users are responsible for their own actions.
@@benbazy9238 Read your statement. ☺😅🤣😂
@@EconomicWarfareBe accountable for dumb decisions. All of these people were conned by the need to be greedy. If you know that there's no such thing as a free lunch, the scammers can't steal from you. It's pretty simple. Get a better bullshit detector.
If you don't know them, don't talk to them... it's pretty simple.
EXACTLY. These ppl aren't victims. They gave away their money. Now ask them how many donated to local charities.
Bingo.
AlWays remember, DON'T TALK TO STRANGERS
its simple for someone with a brain and common sense.
That's not how a ELDERLY BRAIN is rewired ! Even retired CHIEF of the FBI was scammed !
Never answer unknown people that unsolicited contact you, block and delete.
Wow! Really! Without your advice I would NEVER have thought of that in a MILLION years!
Sorry but I accept them all. I love scam baiting.
I know somebody who lost 200k.. these scammers have no heart . They will scam the dying.
Plenty of criminals steal from the elderly and dying. How many stories do we have about Carers being caught on CCTV stealing from their clients purses? There was one recently where an ambulance paramedic was rifling through the wallet of someone he was taking to hospital.
Did he/she report to the right authorities to get the money back?
If not then he needs to immediately
It’s basically the Chinese mafia half the time yes they have no heart there’s also a huge facility outside Dubai where they are doing this. The facility is so big they have a mobile satellite dish truck parked out front to handle the huge amount of internet bandwidth
@@BrianSmith-yq7ys no it is 'basically' coming from Lagos.
The more deprived of love and desperate the more vulnerable you are
Definitely
BS. I am elderly and all my friends recognise that they are not going to be dating into their 60s let alone their 70s and 80s.
deprived of love and desperate = 99% of the world population
Outstanding job, *Briskdeft* ! I'm so glad you're out there battling these vile scammers. We must take every precaution to protect the general people and the elderly from these vile con artists!!
Bravo to you! You ought to be awarded the Nobel Prize for protecting us. Big up, brother
Damn, that was hard to watch. I hope the victims receive justice someday (those who were scammed and the enslaved scammers). What a nightmare system; it's heartbreaking.
yah right...dream on ...the cops are clueless and powerless
Would that woman have engaged that dude if he wasn’t a young handsome Asian. She says. I one ever called her honey or baby. Lady are you 50 years old or 15? Later on greed took over and now she’s out $500,000. SMH.
I can't imagine how hard it would be to decide to take on a moneygetback role of scammed persons..
The history needs to be remembered though and the help that was born through such pain and suffering. Respect to these *Charge backtools* team that take on these roles.
Never deal money with anyone who meet online and never met in person!!!!
they can scam you in person as well
@@kevinchen5703 True but at least you have seen their real face and can easily catch them. Online it’s basically impossible
Lol yea that was my exact thought@@kevinchen5703
They can also hack your friend's accounts and work from there
Ok
I got scammed while living in Germany when trying to rent an apartment. They were very convincing and their story seemed airtight. I feel awful for people like Stephanie, these scammers are professionals. You always think you're never going to let this happen to you until it does.
@@TonyCyberweb Trying to pull a recovery scam eh?
I can’t believe people would actually invest online with someone they don’t know. These creeps are so good and people fall for their evil ways. Sad
@@karaklein5348 they see first the profits then people get greedy thats how they do it
@@karaklein5348 they are not 'so good'. But play on the fact that 50% of the population is below average intelligence.
This is been going on for a long time… I remember back in 2009 or 10 I met a Chinese lady online. On a dating site. I had never heard of “pig butchering“. She made me think she liked me… She sent me lots of photos of her fancy purses… Short videos of her driving her Porsche, etc. etc. Then she started talking to me about crypto. She desperately tried to get me to open an account so that she could “teach me” about crypto investing. Luckily, I immediately knew this was a scam. I strung her along for a little while, and just kept telling herthat I did not need more money. I was very well off, and I was not at all interested in crypto. She got kind of angry and just stopped talking to her.😂
😂 I do the same...toy with them awhile and piss them off
It is hard enough to trust ppl in real-life.
How can ppl trust strangers online?!
Loneliness drive them to speak to them. Thats why talk and love your parents
Don’t blame the victims. Blame the losers doing this to innocent people
Remember this people every time anybody ask you for money in any shape of form especially someone you've never met RUN. As for family members you should have a limit of how much you can help cuz some family members are scammers too
I'm sorry these people were scammed, but holy crap, giving a random stranger your money?
that’s what im saying like bruh
You always think you'll never Fall for it until you do.
@Siriuslyyy um no. I've been messaged numerous times and haven't fallen for this. Falling for this is typically indicative of desperation, greed, and a lack of critical thinking.
It is like the CRA scams. The government doesn't ask for payment in gift cards. 🙄
I met someone , she gives $ 90 000 believing that guy will repay it with a GOLD that is on 'hold' on border overseas...just need little buy little until he got 90 000, and she ended up empty account...!!! Friends told her that he is scam, she just WANTED continue...she was all in 'him'...to the last penny...!!!
@@Siriuslyyy or don't. I have scammers approach me, mainly through Yahoo Mail, 2 or 3 times a day and they are so obvious. Where I live we have our own telephone company, Kingston Communications, that dates back to when telephone exchanges were first started. A workman went into the house of a friend of my neighbour in the middle of her giving someone claiming to be from them her passport number and told her to put the phone down. Why on earth did she think that the they would would want her passport number but to make it worse, her son is one of the managers of the company.
Exceptional work, *Briskdeft* I'm glad you're battling these jerks out there. We must take every precaution to safeguard the elderly and the general public from these disgusting scam artists!
You've earned it!! You deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for keeping us safe, brother
Stephanie. Forgive yourself. You are a kind and lovely person that deserves happiness. I’m sorry this happened to you. You are not alone. Try to look forward and put this behind you. Everyone makes mistakes and you will learn and grow. It’s awful this happened and I’m sorry.
I had initially planned to retire at 62, work part-time, and save money, but the impact of high prices on various goods and services has significantly disrupted my retirement plan. I'm worried about whether those who experienced the 2008 financial crisis had it easier than I currently am. The volatility of the stock market is a concern as my income has decreased, and I fear that I won't be able to contribute as much as before, potentially jeopardizing my retirement savings.
freakin bots LOL
@peartreez The irony on this kind of video too 😑
Has anyone watched this Chinese movie？it is called （No more bets），based on the true stories，this movie describe the scam ogranization and how to scam people，I highly recommend watching this movie with your family，increase the awareness of anti- fraud and protect them
Lol u scamming here 😂
You can collect SS at 62. The amount overall doesn't change, but your checks are smaller because the payments are spread out over a longer period of time.
A lot of these scams are very good. Make sure you check the email address and not the subject.
with that being said, the email addresses can be spoofed
Amazing that a video about crypto scamming gets picked up by the crypto scam bots. Checkout these comments... They dont even make sense in context.
😂🤣
I know right! I was like omg the irony is astronomical. 😂😂😂
How can you be so dumb to send your life savings away. It's pretty frustrating tbh
Love the market place.they should have their own channel
Please Marketplace, do more of those. No more consumer friendly advices, and just do like La Facture and cover scams and overwhelming financial situations.
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Kindly let us know how we can be of service to you.
We offer a versatile solution to scam cases.
Outstanding job done by *Charge backtools* I'm so glad you're out there battling these vile con artists. We must take every precaution to protect the general people and the elderly from these vile con artists!!! Bravo to you!! You ought to be awarded the Nobel Prize for protecting us. Big up, brother
Scammers preying on the victims greed
I saw a similar documentary in the Philippines. .They hired Filipinos to work as office staff or telemarketers to be based in Thailand but the job is actually in Myanmar owned by Chinese
They thought it was a real job. But when they arrived they found out that the job is about scamming people mostly Americans,, Canadians and Europeans. They were beat up if you refused to do what they told you to do. .They were not allowed to go out. At the end they were rescued.
Thanks for sharing. Wow, that's horrible, so scary. Glad they were rescued!
Brilliant initiative, *VortexTrace* It's encouraging to see that you are actively opposing these dishonest individuals. It is imperative that the safeguarding of the general public and the elderly from these abhorrent con artists be a top priority. Excellent job, my companion! Because of your dedication to ensuring our safety, you merit the Nobel Peace Prize……..
Great work *VortexTrace* - so glad you are out there fighting these lowlifes. We need to do all we can to spare the elderlyand the general public from these despicable scammers! Kudos to YOU!!You deserve the Nobel prize for keeping us safe big up brother…..
Congratulations, *ExposeGadgets* !! -I am relieved that you are out there fighting these thugs. We must take every precaution to protect the elderly and the general public from these despicable con artists. Congratulations to YOU!! You deserve the Nobel Peace Prize for ensuring our security.
another scammer the worst KIND , scamming the scammed vicitms
Has anyone watched this Chinese movie？it is called （No more bets），based on the true stories，this movie describe the scam ogranization and how to scam people，I highly recommend watching this movie with your family，increase the awareness of anti- fraud and protect them
It's hilarious that there is an obvious scammer all over the comments.... :)
😂😂😂
it takes a good dose of greed and plenty of gullibility to think you can 'invest' $250,000 and then 'earn' a million dollars almost overnight. i still feel bad for the victims though. crypto is a scourge.
I had the same situation in 2022, that year was a hard year for me. I even hired a lawyer and no support they always took my money. I have finally healed from that. I have not gotten anything back, I did all I can. All I can do is move on sadly. You are not alone.
Have you tried reporting to the internet crime complaint center?
If not, I can send all you need to do and have a chance of getting your money back
My father used to tell us "a fool and his money are soon parted." True 70 years ago and true today.
I never answer the phone to numbers I don't know. Why let them know your phones number is active.They can leave a voice mail. They never do.
I never answer texts I don't know as well.
So you're never out looking for a job, I mean, unknown numbers will call you for interviews 🤦🏽♂️
thx for making this video and for public awareness too..its super important for all to acknowledge and prevent the damages being done!! great work guys!!
"Your emotions are the slaves to your thoughts, and you are the slave to your emotions."
Wrong. Your thoughts are slaves to your emotions. Your emotions are slaves to your greed.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
....And RUclips shows scam financial ads in this video!
Exactly😂
I got two real estate investment scams in the 21 minutes
RUclips doesn't care they're getting paid
Team *Briskdeft* ! It's so satisfying to see you putting in the effort to stop those shady characters. Protecting the public, especially the elderly, from those despicable con artists is crucial.You truly deserve recognition and appreciation for keeping us secure. I'm thrilled for you because you're my sibling. Your accomplishments definitely make you a strong contender for the Nobel Peace Prize. Keep up the outstanding performance
i won't fall for these scams, i have no money
It's getting far worse than ever. I have known all these scamming games since 2010.
Just a glance in a DM message from unknown, I would quickly know right away it's BS.
Marketplace is the best
Scambaiting these guys never goes anywhere. They suck at maintaining a conversation.
When I saw the line from the singpore lady text "I have been in it" I was like hunh? terrible english, red flag
You're great Seriously. You're super likable at the same time. The FBI should seriously hire you right now based off of these videos. You're a true patriot sir. Thank you *Chargebacktools* for all you do please don't stop. You're so important to this country people like you. You're putting fear into literal countries. On a funny note; your character is legendary at this Point
I wish there was more people like you to stop all these scammers, they need serious jail time for that, especially when they take money from the elderly. keep doing what your doing *Charge-backtools* put the wind up these low life oxygen thief Loves what you guy do keep up the great work mate weldone!!
Outstanding job, *Adroitkey* ! I'm so glad you're out there battling these vile scammers. We must take every precaution to protect the general people and the elderly from these vile con artists!!
Bravo to you! You ought to be awarded the Nobel Prize for protecting us. Big up, brother
Scam
1. The colleague that’s helping the guy chat someone up had better be using a burner phone with NO accounts or anything identifiable or associated with a real person, because when she said shed downloaded an app to her phone as instructed as part of the investigation, her phone is bugged.
2. The lady victim who lost her life saving is brave to come forward with her story. She overcame her biggest embarrassment to warn others, which is very commendable. 👏👏👏
3. Greed is the root cause of the second victim.
I SALUTE You for all that your doing, helping all the victims of these scambaggs!
They so deserved to be humiliated and be exposed to the public, these people have No place on this world, welldone *Charge backtools* we're here to support you, More Power to you and all your friends, watching from France
The guy was right - karma will come for him
yah right...that is why crime is not so rampant
Karma is what we tell ourselves to make us feel better. It’s not a real thing.
Everyone says karma
@@OmniFilm-dk8ox this is Canada so it’s less likely, but if you do that to the wrong person, they might dedicate their life to tracking u down and killing those you love lol
Some very very learned people fall for it - this can happen to anyone - the scammers can be very deceptive - they are trained to trick
Someone young enough to be your grand child wants to date you and make you rich? How are people falling for this obvious scam?
People get wrapped up in this stuff because of social media. It’s why everyone thinks every OF model is making millions and everyone is getting rich off Crypto.
And everyone telling them not to just have their money in a bank but they need to make their money work for them. You need to buy stocks, bonds and do this and that and before you know it you’re broke. Because you’re looking at the exceptions and trying to be the exception.
I was one of the persom got scammed by this exact scam.
Need to ban all investment at right now and regroup.
Did you reporting to the right authorities to trace and get your money back?
If not, I can give you the details you need for that.
Always listen to your mom , fantastic journalism, its painful to see people loose money
I wish there was more people like you to stop all these scams, they need serious jail time for that, especially when they take money from the elderly, keep doing what your doing *Charge backtools* & put the wind up these low life oxygen thiefs, Love what you guys do keep up the great work mate well done respect.
So they meet people with million dollars and mansions but their phones is unavailable to facetime. Stupidity come in all shape and sizes.
Some of them send obvious wrong number messages. But sometimes they get emotional when you don't reply. I had one once inviting me to go golfing on a specific date. I didn't reply. Then I get an angry message on that specific date asking why I didn't show up. Nope.
Mr *Adroitkey* , I would like to sincerely thank you from the BOTTOM of my heart! So many from tough harsh living conditions that suffer and you helping and giving them something that they desperately need just to survive. I thank God for wonderful people like you that are making the differences that truly matter most! God bless you *Adroitkey* !!! Love from Greenville NC ❤
Scam
The joy of being a luddite. Not bothering with crypto because it's digital and not being able to even set up the accounts to transfer the money even if i did fall for the romance con. I have an anti-tech miasma around me.
Feel bad for the victims, we need to educate people how to be cautious about online
*CRYPTO* *SCAM* *VICTIM* ? As a Retired combat Marine I want to tell you that as what you are doing is just as important as any warrior on the battlefield. You are waging warfare against these criminals and terrorists on the digital battlefield.
You are defending and protecting the most vulnerable of our society against these predators. Keep up the good work *VortexTrace* …..!!!!!
👏👏👏👏👏⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️Nice Job CBC from NYC. Your show reminds me of FRONTLINE WGBH Public broadcasting- originating from Boston, MA
I love these documentaries! Thanks!
Just make it a rule. Do not give money to strangers online for any reason!!
Time and again women and men fall for people online or otherwise, with whom could not meet in person but offer romance through text messages and phone calls or even investment opportunities to get rich. The
Euphoria of getting married to a rich/beautiful/handsome person or getting rich blind their vision to see the red flags and warning signs.
Thanks Marketplace for informing us on this! I knew about the crypto scams, but I had no idea about the human trafficking/slave labour/abuse on the other side. I looked into it further, and it's appalling. I hope all those in captivity can be freed asap! And hopefully this video will help to prevent people from losing money.
How could you really trust anything on social media
We should not believe unknown person
Thank you for making us aware of pig-butchering.
These “victims of scam” are mostly motivated by greed and lust . They should be held accountable for the proliferation of scams due to their lack of due diligence and gross negligence
Avoid any of those risky "assets"
There are scammers on RUclips as well
Team *Adroitkey* ! It's so satisfying to see you putting in the effort to stop those shady characters. Protecting the public, especially the elderly, from those despicable con artists is crucial.
You truly deserve recognition and appreciation for keeping us secure. I'm thrilled for you because you're my sibling. Your accomplishments definitely make you a strong contender for the Nobel Peace Prize. Keep up the outstanding performance
Thank you for investigating these crimes! I hope the victims find solice and peace. 😢
This is so sad to see what these people are going through it's hurt me i can only imagine they pain.
Your?
Program has stopped many crimes from happening, including scamming against myself and my friends, I deeply. Thank you.
I think the younger generation also for the people that have older parents that are not tech savy need to really educate and teach them all about these scams especially over the cell phone were the scammers bait you with ther tricks
This is just scammers taking advantage of the loneliness crisis that has griped society.
Brokenness provides paths for exploitation
"make the victim think they can make easy money"
in other words, scammers prey on people's greed for 'easy money' 🤑
she might wanna sell some of her expensive Louis Vuitton handbags 🤷♂
Watching him load his mom's things into a 100k truck makes me think that should have been gone her house.
Don't give money to people you've never met.
Sad people are falling for this …it’s. So sad
People seek true love but this is sad.
People are to gullible if it sounds to good to to true its a scam 😂😂😂
Especially in 2024 with all the technology
Was contacted by one of these and chatted at first but realized it was a scam so blocked her.
I am living in Washington I am in big pain thanks guys to save others
You need to file a claim directly to the internet crime complaint center investigators to help you get back your money and get you off that pain, I've been a victim too and got help. I can send all details to you to reach them directly
StefanieSiegl01
I'll tell you the right authorities for the job
The impacts of COVID shutdowns and impact on mental health that persists appear closely related to the trend line. Very sorry to see.
years ago some people tried that with me and they never got nothing because i never met them in person. so if you don't meet they should not be given anything
There can be in person scammers too. If one has to give money it isn't "love"!
This is heartbreaking
Don’t be greedy 😢
They tried this with me. The profile was some supposed rich South Korean lady.
People need to educate themselves on online scams. This should be priority when using the Internet. No matter how smart you think you are. If you're very trusting and gullible you will fall for a scam. It's best to learn what to watch for.
Do you know how I always end these scams? I always ask for a current selfie. From right now. Not an old photo; a new one from the current moment. Once they send it I ask if they just took it. They always reply that it's a new photo. I then ask for a subsequent photo with the same clothes on, same room, same background. The I ask to send me holding their hands in an OK symbol underneath their chin. It always ends the scam dead in it's tracks.
I tried that, I had her original picture from the first text and asked her to hold up three fingers in front of her face so I could compare. Surprisingly she did it and it really WAS her in the first photo! I cut the conversation after a few more messages saying I was too old to be her friend (by about 40 years!)
Being scammed myself and realizing how it turned my heart cold and trust is completely gone
Such cases should be directed to *Mayor_Fast_Fix* cybersecurity team
On instagram
Did you report to the right authorities to get your money back?
StefanieSiegl01
The scammers have no heart. The victims have no brains. It's a good match.
I love how Peter can forgive himself after losing his mom’s money.
Hats off to you, *Prophecytrace* , for your impressive work ethic and self-confidence. You've handled those inquiries and collections brilliantly. Your efficiency and knack for organization are outstanding!
I find it amazing that lots of people let their feelings get in the way of logical thinking.
To all the lonely people, if an online "boyfriend/girlfriend" has a problem and needs your help, has an idea for investment or getting rich, is from another county and needs you for legal residency---run away from the person! I am convinced based on all the scammers that responded to my personal ad, that online romance is almost always a scam.