New York Jets at Oakland Raiders - November 17th, 1968
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- The Heidi Game or Heidi Bowl is the name given to a 1968 American Football League (AFL) game between the Oakland Raiders and the visiting New York Jets. The contest, held on November 17, 1968, was notable for its exciting finish, in which Oakland scored two touchdowns in the final minute to win the game 43-32.However, a decision by the game's television broadcaster NBC to break away from its coverage on the East Coast to broadcast the television film Heidi resulted in many viewers missing the Raiders' comeback.
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Curt Gowdy and Charlie Jones.... the best ever !! I remember this game like it was yesterday... I cried kicked and screamed when Heidi came on.
Loved the old AFL.
The following day a NY newspaper had the following headline, "Jets 32, Raiders 29, Heidi 14."
What does Heidi mean? Or who is Heidi? Lol
@@elizabitty213 NBC cut into game late in the fourth quarter to show the "Wonderful World of Heidi," so the viewing public, especially in the New York area, did not see the game's finish; the Raiders scored 14 points during the final minute, while the network was showing Heidi.
the next day on the NBC nightly news, they played the final minutes of this game at the end of the program. The
President of NBC was called before the scheduled start of Heide for instruction on what to do. He told them not
To cut away from the game. Apparently this was misunderstood and they cut away from the game. Over
Two thousand calls came into the NBC switch board at once and blew the board. There was a good review of
All the events in Sports Illistatrated after this event.
I watched the game at my Grandfather’s house. Great game, I loved Joe Namath and the Jets, and the Jets-Raiders
Games were as intense as the Packers-Colts games in the old NFL ( Jets-Raiders in AFL ).
@@gregford2103 omgosh wow 😯 people must have been very upset.
@@riddell3 wow what a mess lol at least they played the game for everyone to see because no RUclips back then to pull it up lol
I remember watching whole quarters on TV without commercial interruptions. No showboating and no politics.
Yes, you folks always talk about this. Every day.
@@ckendall67 And we’re STILL going to talk about it…NO POLITICS AND NO COMMERCIAL INTERRUPTIONS…
PROBABLY the most infamous Jet defeat in the team’s history. I can vividly remember watching the game on TV. At 7:00 Heidi came on the TV. We flipped on the radio (WABC AM IN NEW YORK) and found out they lost. The next day, Huntley/Brinkley (NBC news) replayed the last 1:05 seconds. There were so many irate fans calling NBC I heard it burned out the switchboard. The Heidi Game, that this game became know as, changed sports broadcasting forever. Since this game, a sports game is shown to completion.
Thanks to this incident,and longer commercial breaks, primetime NFL games take 4 hours to play
I attended this game as a 13 y.o. boy. Our first-period Jr High class won a magazine drive and for our prize we decided to go to a Raiders game and picked this one. Lucky pick! Very intense game with many twists and turns and, obviously, an incredible finish. The fans were beside themselves. At that age sports was larger than life and to this day it remains one of my favorite in-person sports memories.
cwctube I was born during Warren Wells' kickoff return.
Darryl lomonica was a bad ass - shouldn't he be in the hall of Fame? Little before my time
I was there with my father (he had season tickets). I was 16 and could barely talk after all the cheering. Great time.
me too! i was a huge Joe Namath fan, and one of my great memories of that day was, while watching both teams on the field warming up, there suddenly rose a huge Booo coming from the crowd. it was Namath, walking all alone out of the tunnel and onto the field. he could have been elvis or jagger or julius ceaser at that moment. the irreplaceable lynch-pin to this whole spectacle. the hero and the villain and the hollywood sex symbol all in one! fantastic! p.s. that was the year the Jets won the super bowl, after another epic game against the raiders in the afl championship game...
Wow that’s really cool! Thank you for sharing 😍
I was at this game sitting in the upper deck with my dad, mom , and big brother. I was 11 at the time. Charlie Smith was fantastic that season, and never more so than in this game. I remember most of the plays shown here, and none more than Charlie catching the pass from Lamonica, turning the corner to the endzone and snatching victory for the Raiders from the jaws of defeat. When Charlie scored the upper deck bounced up and down probably 6 inches each way. It felt like an earthquake. Hard to believe it's been 53 years, yet the emotions I felt at the Raiders victory are so fresh in my memory.
It was called "going out". Didn't matter if it was a movie, a concert, a game. People dressed up a bit. My uncle was a season ticket holder for the Raiders from 1967 to 2017. He got to see a lot of good football over those years, including two Super Bowl wins.
It's still called "going out" but now wearing sweat pants, pajamas and stomachs hanging out.
@@lemonwatersalt And that's just the description of the females.
I remember watching this game, until Heidi took over. I was 11. Thanks for posting. Fun to watch!
My first Raider game that I went to . What a memory for a 13 year old kid ! Go Raiders .
I was 6 years old and my grandpa was an original season ticket holder and I was at this game. We didn't know it at the time we were witnessing history. We didn't know it until we got home and saw all the news about it. Needless to say I have been a life long Raiders fan, Oakland, LA, Oakland again and now Vegas ..
My Military Dad went NUTS too when this happened! My two sisters had been looking forward to watching that "Heidi" movie too and they were ecstatic. We had ONE TV in the whole house and it was part of the old FM/AM. Stereo/ Record/ Veranda that my folks had. I remember me and my two brothers just getting up and going into the basement to play "Electric Football"....LOLOL What A Memory! Cheers All
Electric Football
was the greatest ! Line all the players up and hit the switch and BUZZZZ ! Up the middle for a touchdown ! So cool .
I had Saints dark
Not many remember 'ol #3, Daryl Lamonica. He was a helluva QB for the Raiders. Should be in the HOF. If he had played with today's rules, for example, if an ant farts near the QB OR receiver, instant penalty, he'd be in the HOF for sure. How about his favorite target, Warren Wells?.....
don't forget Bilitnikoff
Namath said if it wasn't for him Lamonica would have been the best he said the mad bomber was ever bit as good as him.
How many Super Bowls did Lamonica win ? Oh, right. Zero.
@@sneakerfacevids441 Who asked you? Oh, yeah, YOU did!! Talk to yourself much?! LMFAO!!!!
The Mad Bomber!
I was an 11year old girl at the time of this game I may have been one of the only young girls of that time who was not waiting to see "Heidi".
This was the first game my father ever took me to. I was 12. I got autographs from the majority of the Raider players. Ergo, I became a fan of the Raiders.
I remember listening to that game. It made me a Bill King fan for life. HOLY TOLEDO!1!!!!
I was 8 years old.
The family sitting around around the 23" black and white Magnavox. The sisters waiting to enjoy Heidi my dad and I just looking at each other. I recall it like it was yesterday. Great fun memory of The Oakland Raiders in the glory days of the AFL.
Back when the NFL was a great league!
This is the AFL.
@@jweyek A great league that should have pushed for Major League Football instead of a merger.
When the players were athlete entertainers and not woke social warriors telling us how to think.
@@LesterMoore Sports has always been linked to politics. Jim Brown and the man then known as Lew Alcindor did the same in the 1960s. Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier and Joe Louis beating Max Schmeling decades earlier were people fighting the notions of segregation. Lutz Long and Jesse Owens stood up to notions of Aryan superiority in front of SS. You can't tell the history of sports without telling its place in history.
@@wvu05 Those athletes spoke their thoughts regarding their perspectives of social matters of their time in suitable forums.They didn't go out and proselytize their social thoughts on the baseball diamond, basketball court, football field and track before captive paid audiences who attended to see a sporting event. If I want to hear their concerns, I'll go attend their announced speech event knowing what topic they in intend to speak about. Big difference. 'Sides there are other people more qualified to provide enlightened discourse on current social concerns rather than someone who does wondrous acts of physicality with a ball. My POV.
Whatever the era you hear this in-the music is incredible. Really amazing.
The Raiders were my team when I was young. Then in 76 Seahawks were expansion team so I had my own team in my town of Seattle. But I remember my brother, dad and I watching so much AFL over the NFL. Plus that 1969 Super Bowl , Jets upsetting the Mighty Baltimore Colts 16-7
Just love the background music of the first part. I was six years old at the time here in Western Canada and over the years read about this now famous “Heidi” game. And yes I do remember how well people dressed back then. Great footage here.
I used to watch these NFL stories in the 70`s on ABC....great times😃
Preston Ridlehuber! One of the great manes in Raider history.
Back when the Raiders were winning Titles… rip Mr Al Davis……
I too attended the Heidi Game. What was great was ALL of our relatives lived in New York. The phone was ringing non-stop when we got home. Got to love the Raider who recovered the fumble in the end zone . . . Preston Ridlehuber #37
I attended the game, a month later 12/28, in N.,Y.; was cold as hell; i wore two pairs of thermal underware. what a great game. i thought raiders would win, on that last drive, when warren wells made a great catch, and then added fifteen more yards on a jim hudson late hit.
windiest day ever for a football game, as lamonica will attest to.
I have a Pryor jersey. With a little work with a razor blade and a friend at a t shirt shop. I now have a Lamonica jersey.
Excellent video and a great addition of the original broadcast at the end was much appreciated. great to see the"mad bomber" Darylel Lamonica and just found out the Heidi Bowl was the year of George Atkinson's rookie year.He and the Jets receiver Don Maynard had some very competitive run-ins over the years. Thank you for providing such a great presentation of a sports historical event.
Atkinson played CB not safety that year. Maynard, one of the best receivers in football, was just *roasting* him. At one point in the game the Jets recovered a fumble on their own 3-yard-line and scored a TD on two long passes to Maynard. A guy sitting in front of us was SO upset with Atkinson. I still remember how PO'd that guy was after all these years. 🙂
@@cwctube true, he later switched to safety and was strong safety when Jack Tatum arrived.
The game was cut off in the Eastern and Central time zones but was shown to completion in the Mountain and Pacific time zones since "Heidi" wasn't going to come on until 6 in the Mountain time zone and 7 in the Pacific time zone, in both areas, well after the game had ended.
Yes, I remember seeing it to the end watching at home in San Mateo. Always loved watching the AFL games. Great quarterbacks and receivers.
My oldest brother was watching this game when they cut to the movie HEIDI and OMG did he throw a fit. He went scrambling for the radio to some update and found the final score was happy like hell the Raiders won the game but was so pissed off at NBC for cutting the game off like that
I remember as a kid reading Joe Namath's autobiography book and I remember specifically Joe mentioning the rivalry between the Jets and Raiders and how tough and hard hitting the Raiders were. Joe mentions this game specifically and i remember it being a highlight of the book. I never forgot his description of the huge rivalry between the Jets and the Raiders.
Fantastic upload, Thank You!
Preston Riddlehuber-one of the greatest names in football history
The Heidi Bowl! I saw this game with my friends Dale Roberts, Kent Stephens, and Kent's Dad. What the video doesn't show you is when Johnny Sample of the Jets flipped the bird to the whole stadium after he was ejected. Nobody in the stadium knew about NBC's cutting away from the game to televise Heidi on the East Coast.
Back in the days when a touchdown didn’t require a staged, moronic video shoot.
You got that right. NFL players are nothing but spoiled adults playing a child’s game.
You got that right.
LOL.. :-]
@@snydedon9636 That's a "snyde" remark. Lol. But it's basically true in all sports.
Such a racist remark (/s)
I remember watching this game with my Dad. When Namath ran for a td, Dad thought it was a great play call b/c Namath's knees were already shot at that time and the Raiders weren't expecting it. Plus the Raiders always tried to hurt the opposing qb and so it showed guts from Namath, if the Raiders hadn't been fooled, they would have crushed him.
Love that silver and black diamond pattern endzones...wish the Vegas Raiders would try that some time!
No I would like a team back in Oakland--then they can try it--apparently, a group of black businessmen is in the process of lobbying the NFL and getting the backing to get a new stadium in Oakland and a new NFL franchise--the city of Oakland should have sued the Davis family to keep the Raider name and colors in Oakland
@@bufnyfan1 Is the NFL adding more teams? Haven't heard anything about that. They seem rather content with 32 and if they do add more teams, then it'll be international like Canada for Toronto or Mexico for Mexico City. Oakland had all damn day to get a stadium and they pissed that opportunity away while annoying both the Raiders and NFL. You think Oakland is first in line to get a team over St. Louis or some of these other cities? With all due respect, keep dreaming.
@@osaji922 Four possibilities if expansion does come ---- Oakland, San Diego, St. Louis, and San Antonio.
@@osaji922 Oakland getting an Expansion team will never Happen!!!!
@@adamdorgant9454 Not after the fiasco they put the Raiders and NFL through. They're done. Maybe USFL might be able to get the Invaders back there but it won't be at the Oakland Coliseum.
Raiders always had great running backs back then. Charlie Smith was a speedster. Then, they had Clarence Davis, Hewritt Dixon, Marv Hubbard, Marc Van Eeghen, and Pete Banazak, who got the ball a lot at the goal line.
Yes! The Heidi game!! I was 15 and remember being totally pissed.
I love the Raiders from that era all the way through the final Super Bowl triumph after the 1983 season.
Especially great for me are the years when the team was in Oakland, where they belonged.
I will never get used to hearing the words “Las Vegas Raiders.” That fills me with the urge to micturate and defecate mightily.
I loved the ‘83 team even though they were in Los Angeles. 1976 and 1980 were better Super Bowl years for me.
Alex thanks for sharing this ... Ive been a Raider Fan 55 years Ill never for get watching this game till NBC screwed upland left the game for Heidi ha .. I was 11 years old back then.. Great seeing the players, sidelines etc , John Rausch HC and you could Def coach Madden at one point awesome Bro TY
The game was blacked out in the bay area, at that time it didn't matter if it was sold out. Listened to it on the radio.
No it wasn't. I saw it live on tv in San Mateo. They didn't cut away for Heidi either.
The late, great Charlie Jones narrating. Broadway Joe vs “the mad bomber” Daryle Lamonica. Awesome!
Was just gonna acknowledge that classic voice...glad u beat me to it. He and Al DeRogatis, sometimes John Brodie were the "2nd" team on NBC. Of course, Enberg and Olsen were the #1 throughout the 80's.
The Raiders were the best team in the AFL, the season the Jets won the Super Bowl.
This all happened the year right before I started watching pro football. Sadly, I became a Vikings fan.
I was watching and couldn't believe it.
This Raider fan was watching this game in 1968 and Heidi came on. I was not happy. Not until today did I see how Oakland won. Glad I saw it.
I don't remember the announcer saying the score was 12 to 14, that is not the way to say the score, and all the other backwards scores he said. It's Oakland 14, New York 12, etc.
I find it hard to watch football nowadays. I love the game but hate the endless commercial breaks with the same companies... AT&T, Progressive, Geiko, etc. on EVERY change of possession. I pray for long scoring drives that are seven to nine minutes long.
Wow, I just noticed that this clip has all three of my favorite tunes from these old weekly recaps. The first one, which I don't know the name of, Bongo Run, and The Push.
For the longest time I wondered what all the hoo-hah was about, since those of us in the Pacific time zone saw the game to completion, ending about 4:10 or so. Heidi aired at 7:00 PST as advertised (I didn't watch it).
I remember that game. The NBC switchboard went down because of so many calls to complain about Heidi coming on instead of the rest of the game.
OMG! Do I remember that game....the Oakland Raiders we're favorite by 6.5 points in the game, and was never winning with the spread anytime in the game.....the jets was up by 3 when they took the game off the air with 105 left in the game ....4 u young people that watch football today....back then the wonderful world of Disney will come on 7:00 sharp! On NBC.....they didn't care what was on or how much u had on the Game.....it's crazy, today that would never happen today....football is a Big business today.....
I watched this game Nov. 1968 while at home as a college freshman. I was infuriated when NBC cut from the game to broadcast Heidi, as every other fan was. The Jets may have list the battle, but they won the war when they won the AFL championship, then beat the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl 3 Jan. 1969, when Joe Namath guaranteed it.
They beat the Raiders to get there, too.
This was the game that had national notoriety, but not a single TV viewer in the San Francisco Bay Area got to see this game, as the NFL/FCC blackout rules forbade the live local airing of pro-football games (those rules weren't lifted until years later); even if the game was sold-out in advance. So, the TV viewing locals for this team did not suffer the indignation of witnessing this game getting pre-empted.
In the Bay Area at the time KRON Channel 4 would show the full Raider home games on tape at 11PM.
@@robertkeefer1552 I wasn't aware of that. As a youngster back then, that was way past my bedtime; and my parents were not interested in pro-football. Being a single-TV household at the time, they were the controllers of what was viewed on TV when they were home.
Broadway Joe & Lamonica old school AFL football! No frigging TV timeouts when football was real and only people who played the game on any level truly understood and loved the game! Not like these fantasy football armchair quarterbacks today! The game has lost its way! Sinn Fein Byrne
the music,,,, straight outta Dragnet days........
The "Heidi" game.
The entire nation did NOT miss the end of this game. Only the eastern half missed it. At the time of this game, the start of the prime-time shows was the same instant in *both* the Eastern time zone and in the Central time zone, but was two hours later in both the Mountain time zone and the Pacific time zone. That meant that NBC broadcast Heidi to those two time zones and stayed with the game in the Mountain time zone and in the Pacific time zone. Concerned watchers in Manhattan flooded the NBC Headquarters switch-board with calls asking if the planned start of Heidi would be postponed. This made it impossible for the NBC executives, who were at home on Sunday, to get through to their transmission engineers to tell them to stay with the game. So the engineers did as planned and cut to Heidi at 7:00 p.m. Eastern time and 6:00 p.m. Central time (the same instant in both time zones).
Great Bongos!
Don Maynard owned Cheap Shot Artist George Atkinson in 1968.
I always loved the play-by-play of the late Curt Gowdy. In the spring he and Tony Kubek would cover the NBC MLB Game of the Week every Saturday afternoon during the season. A game would be chosen depending on the circumstances going on--if a team was on a winning streak they would go to that game/if a team had a player that was making the news they would go to that game/if a team was playing in a game that could decide a potential playoff matchup they would go there----when it came to football Mr. Gowdy was actually approached by his friend Roone Arledge to be the first announcer for ABC's Monday Night Football in 1970. However, NBC would not let Mr. Gowdy out of his contract so Arledge hired Keith Jackson instead
This game was the day before I was born.
The Excellence of the Raida's Baloink!
I have a autographed football from the 68 raiders!
So, if this game was in November of 1968, eventually it was the JETS who ended up in SB-III when in Jan. 1969 as Namath led them to victory over the Baltimore Colts.
When I was watching this in Buffalo, I think I remember that NBC cut away from Heidi to show the recorded play-by-play.
some people in Buffalo remain very bitter about the trade that sent Daryle Lamonica to Oakland--Jack Kemp was clearly in the twilight of his career at that time and there wasn't an heir apparent to follow him---meanwhile Oakland got Lamonica a passer that fit right into the kind of offense Al Davis wanted to build
@@bufnyfan1 Hard to displace a QB who had won two championships and had a playoff appearance the previous three seasons
The game that changed the way the NFL broadcast nationally televised games....sorta, anyway. Now they cut away if the team "in your area" is playing the late game at 4:25 Eastern, 3:25 Central...and i hate it.
My guy #3 The Mad Bomber!👍
Billy Cannon played for the Raiders? This game was before my time, but Joe Namath throwing the Football is timeless....I would put his his release of the ball in the same category as Dan Marino.
Haha. Agree wholeheartedly. Joe Willie!
Cannon did well. He converted to tight end from running back after his first year in Oakland. He was a very good player. He won a championship or two with the Houston Oilers.
Everyone those passes to #13 Maynard were “back shoulder “throws . DB had him going deep , so Joe feathered a come back catch
This was the Heidi game..
Lamonica is talking to Oakland HC John Rauch on the sidelines at (4:51). Rauch would leave Oakland after this season to coach the hapless Buffalo Bills and ultimately be fired from there in favor of the return of Lou Saban. Just to the left of Lamonica in this sequence, you can see John Madden who would take over as HC of Oakland in 1969.
Real Football. When QB’s weren’t protected.
Don Maynard smoked George Atkinson all game long. Where was Dave Grayson with help over the top ?
Funny how the Jets went on to win the Super Bowl
As a kid I watched the game and then stupid Heidi came on and I’m like what the heck. Then I find out my raiders won
Wild to hear the score "delivered backwards," twice, at 1:52 and 6:27. It is a method gaining acceptance, but this isn't golf or cross country team racing, low score doesn't "lead."
As a final screw up NBC flashed the final score on the screen during the touching, emotional scene in Heidi where her paralyzed cousin takes her first steps which pissed off Heidi viewers as well. Hahahaha...it's so bad it's funny as hell.
Not funny.
No it isn’t
God when football was football
Does anyone think that this might make a great feature film? Sort of along the lines of Argo, Air, Ford V Ferrari? There were so many backstories to this entire affair I think it would be a great film
Should make it clear in the title that this is the infamous Heidi Bowl
Even that very last play run by the Jets was a disaster with Ben Davidson dragging that running back down
The AFL was the best
I always thought it was too---I liked the fact that the AFL was one league and the NFL a separate league--hence when the champions of each league met-in the first 4 Super Bowls-they had never played each other before (MLB used to be this way too until they ruined it with this stupid part of the schedule each year with intraleague games--i.e Cubs vs White Sox, Mets vs Yankees etc etc)
@@bufnyfan1
The AFL wouldn't have lasted without the NFL.
@@whataboutrob442 Not true. The AFL was the more exciting league with more passing offenses in contrast to the NFL's 3 yard and a cloud of dust run dominant offenses. Al Davis had the NFL on their heels as commissioner. That's why he was so enraged about Lamar Hunt making a deal to merge behind his back. He felt it wasn't necessary when they were clearly going to beat them. He carried the grudge with the NFL out until his final breath. It's sad that people believe this just because the NFL is still around today. The war between the AFL and NFL was ended because they mutually agreed to end it. AFL didn't have any problems financially and could have gone on for many more years. I wish it had. I hate the NFL.
@@osaji922 The AFL was more exciting and...one year, I had all the AFL football cards that Topps put out.
Loved AFL FOOTBALL and Hated the Merger. Being from Buffalo and earning 2 CHAMPIONSHIPS in 64 & 65 than losing to Kansas City to KC as Head Coach Lou Sabin Quit after the 65 Title after a dispute with Owner Ralph Wilson KC Went on the the first Super Bowl with Green Bay.
the heidi game
Question to the old-timers who actually watched this game on TV and personally experienced the cutover to Heidi: Do you remember the exact point in the game when they cutover to Heidi? Did they do it right after the Jets field goal at 1:05 remaining, or did they do it in the middle of the Raiders ensuing drive? You would think that if the cutover was at the point of the successful field goal, folks would have just switched on their radios without missing anything, but if they cut over in the middle of the Raiders ensuing drive or in the middle of a play, this would have been especially aggravating. Just curious.
boy did maynard utterly destroy atkinson....man vs a boy
Atkinson was a rookie and he got schooled. But he became a great player for the Raiders. I had a couple of beers with him in 2019 the day before the Raiders played the Bears in London. A good man. I met Lamonica around 2013 at the Coliseum and he signed my Lamonica jersey - big thrill. Sauer was an understated but great player, and the perfect foil to the incomparable Don Maynard.
Miss those days at the Coliseum. The fans were great. No fucking "Raider Nation" thugs and no clowns dressed up in Halloween costumes. Just great blue collar fans. My Dad was at this game and I started going to the games the next year as a kid.
I'm kind of glad they're out of Oakland, because of those type of things, and since I don't like Lost Wages, it gives me another good reason to not like them, also.
Namath running for a touchdown !!!!
It's a shame that the game would be better known for the program that followed it rather than its finish
As an added bonus we're going to show you the first 3 minutes of Heidi.
RIP Daryl Lamonica.
2:01 - perfect example of how the ground can indeed cause a fumble.
My guess is that the ball has to hit the ground while in the ball carrier's possession, or be caused by the arm, during a tackle, hitting the ground, for it not to be ruled a fumble. The ball never hit the ground on that fumble, but yes, the ground did cause that fumble.
HEIDI !
The Raiders had actually scored prior to the TD that gave them the lead after Heidi took over. But it was called back because of holding. They then scored anyhow to take the lead.
Also, the Raiders were favored by 7 1/2 and bettors who had thought the Jets had covered the spread found out later that they had lost their bets. Heehee
My brother was happy even when Heidi came on, until I listened to the sports report and told him that Oakland won by 11. I gave him 10.
I remember that. I thought the game was lost for Oakland after that. Heidi took over so I didn't see the scoring play.
Charlie Jones!
Notice the size of the helmets then and now!
THE GREAT DAYS OF NFL….
Should have put in George Blanda !
Lamonica was solid.
@@chop3625 Yes - is he in the Hall of Fame
Got em back a month later!
What? A high number of penalties against the old Raiders? Who would have thunk it…. 🤣
Great to see some fans in suits and ties and no black hole yet
Just like in Cleveland. I hate the Dawg Pound.They are the Browns not the Dawgs.
It was a different and now long gone era.
Lucky you to be at one of the most historical raider games ever. Remember seeing some adults in suits and ties in the stands? Wow different fan back then
@@headley62 The Dawg Pound wasn't intended to represent the Browns. A pair of all-pro cornerbacks, Hanford Dixon and Frank Minnifield, named the Dawg Pound cheering section, reflecting their style of play. There were games where neither corner gave up a single completion. Only the Raiders pair equaled them in the 1980s.
Why in Heaven's name would anyone go to football game in a suit and tie????