I believe you're right. I think this is why God has these holy places about the world... in the final days, these brother and sisters, monks and nuns will be needed for those wanting to convert. God bless every one of their souls.
We would be extinct if we all followed this path. This is a calling from God for certain individuals. The blessings of the Lord must be great to those who remain in the world yet are not of it.
True, and, unfortunately, due to age and not having perfect health, no monastery will accept me--and it doesn't matter one whit that God is calling me to this life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@josephr.gainey2079. . Hi . . I believe if God called you for religious lfe, it doesnt matter if you are young or old. Talk to the higher authorities in the monastery and you need a lot of prayers from prayer warriors.
Thank you Fr Stephen. I really enjoyed your video talk on the Carthusians. I visited Parkminster for a week, in cell, on vocational discernment about 15 years ago I think. I found it a little scary at first, like I was really isolated. I was a little nervous and over awed when I was there. I was extremely impressed by the monks. To me they were like saints. Many times since I think I should have gone for it. But I wimped out. Now I wish I had done because, I think their charism really resonates with me. When I visited I had fears that I think were somewhat misguided or unfounded. I had incredible moments of spiritual joy in that hermitage. Spontaneous. Never felt that anywhere else. I was never bored and felt that the cell became a holy place as I lived deeply in the moment.
In solitude you come face to face with yourself and it's never pleasant and often scary. In solitude you come face to face with God and that, too, can be unpleasant and scary. But when we die we will come face to face with who we are and who God is anyway. As Mother Teresa once said (when she was ill with a fever) "you can burn now or burn later"! Some of us chose to "die to the world" before our physical death and we need a tried and true Rule like the great founders of religious orders left us to follow. We need not be afraid!
Thank you, Fr. Stephen. I live near a ruined Carthusian House, Mount Grace, in North Yorkshire (suppressed in the Dissolution of the Monasteries by Henry VIII in the 1530s). Your description.of the monastery at Parkminster, and especially the little houses that are the cells, was instantly recognisable. One of the houses had been reconstructed and apart from the modern inclusion of a shower, is exactly the same. I have also watched the film 'Into Great Silence' about the La Grande Chartreuse at Grenoble.
RE: the balance between Solitude and Community… certainly food for reflection in one’s own secular life (family vs self, home vs world, etc.) In everything there must be balance. The joyful monk is proof of it’s possibility.
I pray that God keeps them strong and with all they need fiscally and spiritually and that He takes them with Him to rejoice forever in his kingdom! Please all Carthusian Pray for us!
Fascinating. I went for a drive to Parkminster some time ago, and parked near the front entrance. As I was waiting, a number of monks exited the front door and headed off into the countryside for their Monday walk. I knew that happens every week, as the great film, Into Great Silence, showed some great scenes of monks at the Carthusian mother house, sliding down a snow covered hill. That lengthy film was a real eye opener and anyone wanting to know about Carthusian life, ought watch that beautiful film. It took the Director about 20 years I think to get permission to go inside and film their life, with so many wonderful personal stories from monks inside. Such a powerful film. And yes, knock or call and you can’t get in.....A firm no.
Father, thank you. I was a Carthusian postulant in Italy. I just wanted to say there are no Carthusian nuns in England. At present there are only four nuns' monasteries, 2 in France, 2 in Italy, and 1 in South Korea. There are two separate vocations in the monasteries...choir monks and nuns, and converse ones who do all the household work and farming and laundry etc. And take the meals to the choir monks and nuns, which they leave in the hatch (guichet). Apart from Matins and Lauds (night Office....3 hours on Feasts), and Vespers in Choir, all other Offices are prayed alone in cell, plus the Office of Our Lady. Have you read AN INFINITY OF LITTLE HOURS about 5 novices in Parkminster? Many try the life but few make it to the end! As an Order they do very much need our prayer. +
It's important that you mentioned the two vocations in a charterhouse, monks (priests) in cells and brothers. "An Infinity of little hours" is a very good book that doesn't leave out the difficulties a monk can meet on his journey. As far as I remember only one of five novices stayed. An important piece of furniture in the cell is the stove fired by wood. That's part of the manual labour of a monk..to saw wood.
I highly recommend the Ancient Devotions to he Sacred Heart of Jesus by Carthusian Monks of the 14-17th centuries. There is a free online copy of the book, too. I bring it to my Adoration hour.
Don't do it. Catholicism has already been proved false. Free will has been debunked. No one can ever deserve Heaven or hell so the religion is now pointless. Stay with your friends and family.
The Carthusians seem to perform a function similar to the Tibetan monks of the Himalayas. That primeval quality that Father spoke about really touches their depths. In a profound and mysterious way, they pray not only for the mountains and the living Earth and her sacred creatures, all of which exhibit the presence of the One to Whom they have given their lives, but pray AS these fellow creatures, as it were with their voices, standing in as the human reoresentatives of Creation to God, holding on to the Spirit of Christ Who enlivens all things, and keeping the planet on her journey until He comes. It is as if there is a cosmic liturgy going on throughout the universe, and our Carthusian siblings stand in the Milky Way on the curve of the Earth, and sing her song through the hearts of her children. God bless your search ❤
@hugo suarez hey Hugo. I’d recommend going to your local parish and speaking with a priest, as I am unfit to give spiritual guidance. God Bless you, and I will pray for you.
I lived the life for nine months in Vermont, US; The Charterhouse of the Transfiguration. (and 18 months with the Cistercians in Spencer, Massachusetts. St. Josephs) And no, it's not a retreat house... ) And yes, we brothers got up at 12 am (the Father's got up at I believe 11:15-30pm) for Vigils. This lasted about an hour and a half... more on major feast days. Then back to sleep until six. You actually got more sleep with the Carthusians (about 8 hours total) than with the Cistercians (about 7:15 though it was uninterrupted). Personally, I found the Carthusian life much easier. I was naturally a Carthusian. Though I was a Cistercian by grace... which, though more trying is ultimately more fruitful. ) It's very nice and easy to sit in ones chair and read stories about monastic life... Like heroic tales of old... But a day to day grind is the reality... A face to face with your own inner self. No distractions. No escapes. It's a hard reality... day after day. There are high points, don't be despairing, but... erase any romantic notions about the life itself.
They may not have a brewery but they certainly have a distillery at La Grande Chartreuse, they make Chartreuse liqueur. I´m not personally religious but saw "Into Great Silence" and found it somehow profoundly moving.
Well said, even if we don't live like a monk, we have times of solitude and we can learn from others. I'm retired and have struggled with the isolation suddenly thrust upon me.
Back in 1975 I went to Srebna Gora (Silver Mountain) Camaldolese Hermitage of the Monte Corona Observance , and I was told that there was a Recluse residing there that had not had any contact with society for over 30 years. And guess what he still had all his marbles.
In hospital very busy doctors nurses cleaners scurrying around, machines beeping (unpleasantly some time) people suffering! Not very peaceful, I pray for all sick and all hospital staff!!! God please help them in your mercy! ✝️✝️✝️🕎🕎🕎🙏🙏
Thank you, Father, for explaining your experience so wonderfully, and especially the "airlock" between the cell and the cloister! After watching, "Into Great Silence", I have wondered if the doors from the cloister just open into the cells directly, which would seem rather abrupt. Thank you for resolving this little mystery for me!
@@PauseforFaith Will GLADLY do so daily!!!!!!!! What's his name both born or religious, if you don't mind. Which Charterhouse is he at. (Don't worry. I won't write him or disturb their silence--just interested) Thank you for the response. GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!
Was the heremitage of Annaya of Saint Charbel was just as austere? They must be some kind of super heroes of the ecclesiastical spiritual people the heremitage!
Didn't Our Lord Jesus risk upsetting the authorities to heal immediately the sick and stop their sufferings even if He happened to meet them on the Sabbath?
Not a brewery, but the Grande Chartreuse in France makes the Chartreuse liqueurs, which the monks and nuns only use for medicinal purposes themselves, but sell world wide.
Reverend Father, why do the Car this Ian think that God Allmighty wants them to suffer? Jesus healed the sick to stop their suffering and resurrected the dead to stop their relatives' suffering and turned the water into wine just to make people merrier and preached to give hope and merriment in the fact that observing the loving word of God and to love your neighbour which brings joy and not sorrow nor pain. Even the Apostles healed people and stopped their suffering! I cannot understand why they believe that God wants them to freeze (and get sick) or be undernourished etc.
Because He taught us that when the Bridegroom would be taken away from them, then His disciples would fast. St Paul talked frankly about the value of his sufferings. We have records of penitential practices from the early days of the Church. This has always been Christian practice. It's only in the last 150 years that people have gotten so soft that any kind of discomfort became abhorrent. People used to think quite differently. God has not changed simply because we have fast food and central heating.
If u are more interested in this channel ‘salvation is from the Jews’ saints and spirituality episode 4. The host discerned there, really cool insights
God wanted his Son to suffer his passion and cross as a ransom for the sins of the world. The austerities the Carthusian monks suffer can likewise be viewed as an offering to God for the sins of the world.
@@markm1565 it's blasphemous. Don't take it as offensive, but Jesus denied validity of human sacrifices. They want to do it, they can. But never in my name
@@konyvnyelv. I think he was talking about literal human sacrifices which goes against everything Jesus taught. The killing of humans and animals for ritual sacrifice is satanic, very dark energy, occultic.
@@konyvnyelv. The Carthusian monk gives his life to live completely for God every minute of the day and night, as far as possible. It is not only a rare and precious vocational calling but can be viewed as an offering of self to God, an oblation.
So are you saying that St Bruno knew better than Christ ,what is defensive avoidance even anal retentive man made obstructing that which God might bring and what is a necessary emphasis on prayer,contemplatin and por meditation ,umm.
You mentioned that it isn't a theme park to be visited for spiritual experiences and then you go on to describe in detail how you visted it like a theme park for spiritual experiences. This feels like the religious version of a middle class dinner party with slides where the host bores you with their boasting of exclusive holidays or forbidden entry. This video does exactly what you claim the Carthusians don't want. Titillation, curiosity and religious tourism.
I think he said he was with a group from Worth Abbey, so maybe people wishing to find out about the Carthusian life in order to discern their own vocation. It is obviously a one-off visit.
Do they not have a true toilet? The Bible says "thou shall be clean and that waste (number 2 and 1) must be away buried outside the camp not near where you live) in theory it should be a little room just a minute bath with toilet sink shower and bide' (bird's should have a shower attachment to be really hygienic) for easily washing bottoms after each use even for the sick old or kids who may not balance well over the bath! In Italian and Greece every toilet has all four, basin, toilet shower bath and bide, otherwise you spread serious disease Escherichia coli is a merciless killer!
@@markm1565 When I was at Parkminster in the early 1960's there were no showers in the individual hermitages. There was a bath house were we had a bath and head and face shaved every two weeks. In the wake of Vatican II one of the Priors introduced showers in the hermitages.with cold water in the summer and warm water in the winter. I read that this was stopped following a visit from some German Carthusian monks who reported to the mother house at the Grande Chartreuse that there was laxity going on at Parkminster. The Prior was deposed and they went back to the original conservatism. I don't know if the showers were taken out of the hermitages of they were just disconnect from the water supply. There was no electricity when I was there other than a generator to power for the laundry machines. The individual hermitages and the brothers cells had oil lamps and wood burning stoves for heating. There was no heating in the choir or cloisters which were freezing cold in the winter months enough to make teeth chatter.
@@paulbastier3773 Wow! That sounds so severe. It's a very tough vocation that one. I heard about that German visitation and that they thought it was too lax. Father Cyril had the showers put in which i thought was a brilliant practical idea, not a proper shower, just a shower rose and a hole in the floor by the toilet really. And there was a heater, not just the wood burner. Luxury! Cyril had heritage restore the masonry in the cloisters. Superb job. When I visited Cyril was no longer Prior but a French Prior who seemed very impressive. The Carthusians are by far the most impressive of all the catholic monks, by far, in my considered opinion.
I am beginning to believe that the only truly sane people today are living in monasteries.
I believe you're right. I think this is why God has these holy places about the world... in the final days, these brother and sisters, monks and nuns will be needed for those wanting to convert. God bless every one of their souls.
We would be extinct if we all followed this path. This is a calling from God for certain individuals. The blessings of the Lord must be great to those who remain in the world yet are not of it.
True, and, unfortunately, due to age and not having perfect health, no monastery will accept me--and it doesn't matter one whit that God is calling me to this life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@josephr.gainey2079. . Hi . . I believe if God called you for religious lfe, it doesnt matter if you are young or old. Talk to the higher authorities in the monastery and you need a lot of prayers from prayer warriors.
It's a nice thought.
Do not be afraid of silence. Silence is a wonderful companion.
I really love the Carthusians. I had the privilege of staying 'in cell' at Parkminster about 12 years ago, discerning a vocation.
Thank you Fr Stephen. I really enjoyed your video talk on the Carthusians. I visited Parkminster for a week, in cell, on vocational discernment about 15 years ago I think. I found it a little scary at first, like I was really isolated. I was a little nervous and over awed when I was there. I was extremely impressed by the monks. To me they were like saints. Many times since I think I should have gone for it. But I wimped out. Now I wish I had done because, I think their charism really resonates with me. When I visited I had fears that I think were somewhat misguided or unfounded. I had incredible moments of spiritual joy in that hermitage. Spontaneous. Never felt that anywhere else. I was never bored and felt that the cell became a holy place as I lived deeply in the moment.
Hello
I pray every day for the Carthusian monks intercession. I’m fascinated with their spirituality. They are the living Saints.
In solitude you come face to face with yourself and it's never pleasant and often scary. In solitude you come face to face with God and that, too, can be unpleasant and scary. But when we die we will come face to face with who we are and who God is anyway. As Mother Teresa once said (when she was ill with a fever) "you can burn now or burn later"! Some of us chose to "die to the world" before our physical death and we need a tried and true Rule like the great founders of religious orders left us to follow. We need not be afraid!
Thank you, Fr. Stephen. I live near a ruined Carthusian House, Mount Grace, in North Yorkshire (suppressed in the Dissolution of the Monasteries by Henry VIII in the 1530s). Your description.of the monastery at Parkminster, and especially the little houses that are the cells, was instantly recognisable. One of the houses had been reconstructed and apart from the modern inclusion of a shower, is exactly the same. I have also watched the film 'Into Great Silence' about the La Grande Chartreuse at Grenoble.
I also live near Mount Grace Priory. its special place to visit, we take the family in the summer, and find it so peaceful.
where can I find the film Into Great silence"?
RE: the balance between Solitude and Community… certainly food for reflection in one’s own secular life (family vs self, home vs world, etc.) In everything there must be balance. The joyful monk is proof of it’s possibility.
I pray that God keeps them strong and with all they need fiscally and spiritually and that He takes them with Him to rejoice forever in his kingdom! Please all Carthusian Pray for us!
Fascinating. I went for a drive to Parkminster some time ago, and parked near the front entrance. As I was waiting, a number of monks exited the front door and headed off into the countryside for their Monday walk. I knew that happens every week, as the great film, Into Great Silence, showed some great scenes of monks at the Carthusian mother house, sliding down a snow covered hill. That lengthy film was a real eye opener and anyone wanting to know about Carthusian life, ought watch that beautiful film. It took the Director about 20 years I think to get permission to go inside and film their life, with so many wonderful personal stories from monks inside. Such a powerful film. And yes, knock or call and you can’t get in.....A firm no.
What an interesting talk - and yes I will pray for those who pray for us
Father, thank you. I was a Carthusian postulant in Italy. I just wanted to say there are no Carthusian nuns in England. At present there are only four nuns' monasteries, 2 in France, 2 in Italy, and 1 in South Korea. There are two separate vocations in the monasteries...choir monks and nuns, and converse ones who do all the household work and farming and laundry etc. And take the meals to the choir monks and nuns, which they leave in the hatch (guichet). Apart from Matins and Lauds (night Office....3 hours on Feasts), and Vespers in Choir, all other Offices are prayed alone in cell, plus the Office of Our Lady. Have you read AN INFINITY OF LITTLE HOURS about 5 novices in Parkminster? Many try the life but few make it to the end! As an Order they do very much need our prayer. +
I've just finished reading that book. It's very interesting and gives quite an insight into their lives. Such a hard life!
It's important that you mentioned the two vocations in a charterhouse, monks (priests) in cells and brothers.
"An Infinity of little hours" is a very good book that doesn't leave out the difficulties a monk can meet on his journey. As far as I remember only one of five novices stayed.
An important piece of furniture in the cell is the stove fired by wood. That's part of the manual labour of a monk..to saw wood.
I highly recommend the Ancient Devotions to he Sacred Heart of Jesus by Carthusian Monks of the 14-17th centuries. There is a free online copy of the book, too. I bring it to my Adoration hour.
Thank you father for this beautiful video
We all stand together for the need of grace.
I feel called to the Carthusians. I fear for my family, but I feel I need to at least visit them to discern it all.
Don't do it. Catholicism has already been proved false. Free will has been debunked. No one can ever deserve Heaven or hell so the religion is now pointless. Stay with your friends and family.
The Carthusians seem to perform a function similar to the Tibetan monks of the Himalayas. That primeval quality that Father spoke about really touches their depths. In a profound and mysterious way, they pray not only for the mountains and the living Earth and her sacred creatures, all of which exhibit the presence of the One to Whom they have given their lives, but pray AS these fellow creatures, as it were with their voices, standing in as the human reoresentatives of Creation to God, holding on to the Spirit of Christ Who enlivens all things, and keeping the planet on her journey until He comes. It is as if there is a cosmic liturgy going on throughout the universe, and our Carthusian siblings stand in the Milky Way on the curve of the Earth, and sing her song through the hearts of her children. God bless your search ❤
@@konyvnyelv. Get behind me satan.
@@konyvnyelv. Well you're certainly free to believe that
@hugo suarez hey Hugo. I’d recommend going to your local parish and speaking with a priest, as I am unfit to give spiritual guidance. God Bless you, and I will pray for you.
Would love to see someday a film about Parkminster as was done with the Grande Chartreuse in 'Into Great Silence'.
I lived the life for nine months in Vermont, US; The Charterhouse of the Transfiguration. (and 18 months with the Cistercians in Spencer, Massachusetts. St. Josephs)
And no, it's not a retreat house... )
And yes, we brothers got up at 12 am (the Father's got up at I believe 11:15-30pm) for Vigils. This lasted about an hour and a half... more on major feast days. Then back to sleep until six. You actually got more sleep with the Carthusians (about 8 hours total) than with the Cistercians (about 7:15 though it was uninterrupted). Personally, I found the Carthusian life much easier. I was naturally a Carthusian. Though I was a Cistercian by grace... which, though more trying is ultimately more fruitful. )
It's very nice and easy to sit in ones chair and read stories about monastic life... Like heroic tales of old... But a day to day grind is the reality... A face to face with your own inner self. No distractions. No escapes. It's a hard reality... day after day. There are high points, don't be despairing, but... erase any romantic notions about the life itself.
Thank you Father love all your wisdom and insights of living with hermits 🙏🌸.
Lovely presentation. Thank you
America has an English Speaking Charterhouse in Mt. Equinox, Vermont. A Very Beautiful Place !
And Steven.....Chartruse.......!!!
They may not have a brewery but they certainly have a distillery at La Grande Chartreuse, they make Chartreuse liqueur. I´m not personally religious but saw "Into Great Silence" and found it somehow profoundly moving.
Well said, even if we don't live like a monk, we have times of solitude and we can learn from others. I'm retired and have struggled with the isolation suddenly thrust upon me.
Thank you for your voice of reason
Yes Reverend Father, prayers now!🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you. Very inspirational and informative 🙏🙏❤️
Back in 1975 I went to Srebna Gora (Silver Mountain) Camaldolese Hermitage of the Monte Corona Observance , and I was told that there was a Recluse residing there that had not had any contact with society for over 30 years. And guess what he still had all his marbles.
That was great,Thankyou from Ireland Fr Steven,God bless our Global Catholic family.
I love this spirituality, I would like attended a retreat transfiguration abbey
I love listening to and learning of orders within Christ' church. I find the Carthusian order very impressive, on the way they live for God.
Do you have to almost get a cold to tell God that you need Him, you love Him, you long for Him? But I still admire the carthusians.
How reassuring that your first memory of Charterhouse is the same as mine!
Good video Father thank u
In hospital very busy doctors nurses cleaners scurrying around, machines beeping (unpleasantly some time) people suffering! Not very peaceful, I pray for all sick and all hospital staff!!! God please help them in your mercy! ✝️✝️✝️🕎🕎🕎🙏🙏
Thank you, Father, for explaining your experience so wonderfully, and especially the "airlock" between the cell and the cloister! After watching, "Into Great Silence", I have wondered if the doors from the cloister just open into the cells directly, which would seem rather abrupt. Thank you for resolving this little mystery for me!
I think they call this corridor the Ave Maria, or at least did so.
Very interesting and informative. Thank you.
We miss your videos Reverend Father!
Thank you! Considering to be one...but God's Will be done.
Thank you
Thanks that was a very interesting look at this reclusive order.
God Please guid and always protect the Carthusians monks and nuns
After watching the film I must admit they are a fascinating order.There sleeping pattern seems brutal to me.
Into Great Silence film of life at Grand Chartreuse - no extraneous music, no narration, just 2hours 40 minutes of life there.
Any recent word on the Newman House student who entered a Charterhouse?
He's still there! Please pray for him...
@@PauseforFaith Will GLADLY do so daily!!!!!!!! What's his name both born or religious, if you don't mind. Which Charterhouse is he at. (Don't worry. I won't write him or disturb their silence--just interested) Thank you for the response. GOD BLESS!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you father.
Could you also make a video about cistercian and trappist community, please ? Best wishes from Cologne.
Is it true that they pray the divine office as well as the little office of the blessed Virgin Mary everyday?
God bless carthusian, from an orthodox.
Was the heremitage of Annaya of Saint Charbel was just as austere? They must be some kind of super heroes of the ecclesiastical spiritual people the heremitage!
Talk to God Allmighty,Talk to Our Lord Jesus, talk to Holy Mary ask for permission to talk to them about everything!
La Cartuja nunca ha sido reformada, por que nunca ha sido deformada.
Saying No to silencing, by others. Self imposed silence is fine.
Didn't Our Lord Jesus risk upsetting the authorities to heal immediately the sick and stop their sufferings even if He happened to meet them on the Sabbath?
Not a brewery, but the Grande Chartreuse in France makes the Chartreuse liqueurs, which the monks and nuns only use for medicinal purposes themselves, but sell world wide.
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Just reading off of their website???
Hello
Did you know that St Bruno was also the name of a tobacco in 1960's/70's.
Please all Carthusian Pray for us!!!!✝️✝️✝️✝️🕎🕎🕎💒💒💒💒
The holy scriptures stand above silence of GOD.
The silence of God is God. Also, silence is the place where we can best hear and discern the voice of God.
Reverend Father, why do the Car this Ian think that God Allmighty wants them to suffer? Jesus healed the sick to stop their suffering and resurrected the dead to stop their relatives' suffering and turned the water into wine just to make people merrier and preached to give hope and merriment in the fact that observing the loving word of God and to love your neighbour which brings joy and not sorrow nor pain. Even the Apostles healed people and stopped their suffering! I cannot understand why they believe that God wants them to freeze (and get sick) or be undernourished etc.
Totally agree with you!
Almighty God is LOVE and Mercy
Because He taught us that when the Bridegroom would be taken away from them, then His disciples would fast. St Paul talked frankly about the value of his sufferings. We have records of penitential practices from the early days of the Church. This has always been Christian practice. It's only in the last 150 years that people have gotten so soft that any kind of discomfort became abhorrent. People used to think quite differently. God has not changed simply because we have fast food and central heating.
If u are more interested in this channel ‘salvation is from the Jews’ saints and spirituality episode 4. The host discerned there, really cool insights
I think God would be happier if they had a proper bathroom and heating too. But this is my opinion! Why would He want to cause His temples suffer?
God wanted his Son to suffer his passion and cross as a ransom for the sins of the world. The austerities the Carthusian monks suffer can likewise be viewed as an offering to God for the sins of the world.
@@markm1565 it's blasphemous. Don't take it as offensive, but Jesus denied validity of human sacrifices. They want to do it, they can. But never in my name
@@konyvnyelv. I think he was talking about literal human sacrifices which goes against everything Jesus taught. The killing of humans and animals for ritual sacrifice is satanic, very dark energy, occultic.
@@konyvnyelv. The Carthusian monk gives his life to live completely for God every minute of the day and night, as far as possible. It is not only a rare and precious vocational calling but can be viewed as an offering of self to God, an oblation.
Pray constantly. If one is in a mystical state of pray one does not feel the cold.
google THE BRIEF RULE OF SAINT ROMUALD.
You started talking about fake outer space and fake outer space travel and fake cartoon fantasy spaceball earth and planets?!?!?!?! 17:20 ?!?!?!?!
So are you saying that St Bruno knew better than Christ ,what is defensive avoidance even anal retentive man made obstructing that which God might bring and what is a necessary emphasis on prayer,contemplatin and por meditation ,umm.
You mentioned that it isn't a theme park to be visited for spiritual experiences and then you go on to describe in detail how you visted it like a theme park for spiritual experiences. This feels like the religious version of a middle class dinner party with slides where the host bores you with their boasting of exclusive holidays or forbidden entry. This video does exactly what you claim the Carthusians don't want. Titillation, curiosity and religious tourism.
I think he said he was with a group from Worth Abbey, so maybe people wishing to find out about the Carthusian life in order to discern their own vocation. It is obviously a one-off visit.
Do they not have a true toilet? The Bible says "thou shall be clean and that waste (number 2 and 1) must be away buried outside the camp not near where you live) in theory it should be a little room just a minute bath with toilet sink shower and bide' (bird's should have a shower attachment to be really hygienic) for easily washing bottoms after each use even for the sick old or kids who may not balance well over the bath! In Italian and Greece every toilet has all four, basin, toilet shower bath and bide, otherwise you spread serious disease Escherichia coli is a merciless killer!
Yes they have a proper toilet, wash basin and shower space beside toilet, all proper plumbing etc. Nothing fancy but functional.
@@markm1565 When I was at Parkminster in the early 1960's there were no showers in the individual hermitages. There was a bath house were we had a bath and head and face shaved every two weeks. In the wake of Vatican II one of the Priors introduced showers in the hermitages.with cold water in the summer and warm water in the winter. I read that this was stopped following a visit from some German Carthusian monks who reported to the mother house at the Grande Chartreuse that there was laxity going on at Parkminster. The Prior was deposed and they went back to the original conservatism. I don't know if the showers were taken out of the hermitages of they were just disconnect from the water supply. There was no electricity when I was there other than a generator to power for the laundry machines. The individual hermitages and the brothers cells had oil lamps and wood burning stoves for heating. There was no heating in the choir or cloisters which were freezing cold in the winter months enough to make teeth chatter.
@@paulbastier3773 Wow! That sounds so severe. It's a very tough vocation that one. I heard about that German visitation and that they thought it was too lax. Father Cyril had the showers put in which i thought was a brilliant practical idea, not a proper shower, just a shower rose and a hole in the floor by the toilet really. And there was a heater, not just the wood burner. Luxury! Cyril had heritage restore the masonry in the cloisters. Superb job. When I visited Cyril was no longer Prior but a French Prior who seemed very impressive. The Carthusians are by far the most impressive of all the catholic monks, by far, in my considered opinion.