How To Fix The Holley 1920 On Your Slant Six Mopar (Throw It Away!)
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Today on Dead Dodge Garage, I show you how to fix everything wrong with the stock fuel toilet found on gazillions of slant six powered machines like the Dodge Dart, Plymouth Valiant, and even Dodge trucks. What you do is, you unbolt the Holley 1920 carburetor, slam dunk it right into the scrap pile, and replace it with a random Carter BBS from eBay. It’s just that easy.
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It might help if you said which carter bbs to look for. there are a lot of different models. I tried following your advice. There are exactly zero bbs carbs on E-bay for anything newer than "61. And every one of them are sold as parts only. In other words, junk. Will one listed as being for a late '59s to early '60s 225 work on a '73?
I thought parts for a slant 6 would be everywhere, they made them for so long. NOPE. Carbs are nonexistent. Can't even find a new or rebuilt 1920. They're everywhere cheap for fords. None to be had for a mopar. Not interchangeable either.
A word of warning for anyone getting into vintage mopar slant 6. GOOD LUCK. Parts are a bitch. I had to get valves from Australia. None in the US.
Unfortunately you’re right. At the time I made this video, there were many listed. As you can see, this one showed up shiny and new in a box. Other commenters have informed me that this is no longer the case. There isn’t much I can do about that. No, an early to mid 60s carb will not attach to the 67+ linkage. It’s a problem.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Thanks for the reply anyway. I don't get answers to my questions very often, and almost never this quickly. I very much appreciate that.
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That Dart causes serious jealousy moments for me. Awesome ride. Fortunately it has this mighty fine owner. That slants power unleashening in the end was priceless. 👍
My buddy had a slant six in a 65 Belvedere back in 75. We called it "The Jet". It got us around. Never had any issues with the carb.
One of the problems is a 1920 has a metering block that can get dirty(and hard to clean). Plus, I don't like the leak point either. That's a very late BBS...they used those on 70-71's.
The 225 "Tower of Power" is one of the best engines ever!
Damn right!
This going to help me a lot . With my 1967 Dodge Dart. I’ve had the same problem. 🤷♂️
I had a 69 Dart GT, and then a 71 Dart that looked much like yours does, with the leaning tower of power. They were very good cars for their day.
Love the Carter BBS with the exception of the butterfly shaft air leaks. I also warn all and sundry that rebuilt carbs on eBay aren't. Buy them, then rebuild them. Done.
Right. The BBD has the same problem - every one of them, I swear. The devil you know, etc. This one was nice, with a tag on it, vacuum packed in plastic, nice coating. Actually a remanufactured unit. I trust it! But we saw a lot that sure didn’t look as nice.
The "mic drop" has now evolved... carb drop...
I'm relatively new to the Slant Six world, but just started learning about it and the 1920- my 69 Dart Custom was going to be a 5.7 hemi daily fun car until I realized it was a very rare V1H (1 of 25)!! So now it's getting a factory resto. I'm now on the hunt for the correct oddball '69 carb/intake/exhaust as theyre the only non-original pieces on the car...
Mod top slant six ‘69 Dart? That’s sweet! What a cool thing to restore. Different. I dig it.
@@DeadDodgeGarage It's not what I had in mind. Tough to change your vision from carbureted Hemis and race parts to casting numbers and date codes, but it's still going to be a fun journey!! Just found your channel after the $170k Charger video. Love it and insta-subbed. Another semi-local Mopar maniac channel, oh yeah!!! I'm in Vancouver btw...
Cool little car! Great fix!👍
Great video buddy I wish I would’ve ran into that earlier in my life my fix for it was getting a four barrel 390 card and replaced it with a Clifford manifold that was my fix and I apologize I was using sarcasm in the last comment that I did now to videos ago
That’s ok. Haha. It can be hard to detect sarcasm through text sometimes… I’m beyond guilty there. The four barrel is pretty cool too. I’ve yet to run one on a slant, but it’s in my plans.
Are you playing rebuilt carb roulette?
Basically
@@DeadDodgeGarage You got luck and got a good one.
what is the part number for the carter bbs you used on this slant?
I don’t know, and unfortunately I think I caused them to all disappear from eBay…
Whats your issue with the holley carb? My dads 83 d150 has the holley carb that thing has worked flawlessly for years
They tend to not idle and it’s a big pain to fix. I’ve dealt with a few that were ok, and a bunch that weren’t.
@@DeadDodgeGarage interesting 🤔 yeah we have never had a problem with ours we've owned the truck since 89
I have a bbd carb on my super 6 in a 77 aspen and it wont idle for nothing rebuilt carb still wont idle
When rebuilt, did you verify that the base to main body gasket is correct? Several different varieties come in the kit. If the wrong one is used, passages will be blocked and you will have no idle fuel… learned that the hard way many years ago.
I’ve got a 1973 dart swinger with a 225, and I am trying to find a carter carb to fit it. Everything I find online will say 1966/1967 I haven’t found anything that includes 1973 yet, I can’t imagine thy changed the designs of them every couple of years back then, but I want to be sure I’m ordering the right carb. Any good info on this like a part number that will cross?
The throttle linkage changed in ‘67? Something like that. We just searched for Carter BBS on eBay and found the one with linkage that matched. I will say, I have looked more recently and didn’t see many good options.
Appreciate the reply, I’ll keep looking.
Is there a part number for the Carb you got? I’m trying to do the same. Thanks!
I don’t have that unfortunately, and recent attempts to find the same one on eBay have been unsuccessful… which is a bummer. Lots of people need one.
Back in 1993, I had a 1920 on my 225/6 in my '73 Duster. It was kind of a weaksauce, power limiting carb, but it got good mileage, around 18-20. That winter, we got temps down to -22 F, and I had the fast idle adjusted JUST RIGHT. Even on the coldest day, I could go out to the car, pump the gas pedal once to set it on the fast idle cam, and crank it up. The Slant would start out idling very slowly, around 500 rpm, due to being so cold, but over about 10 minutes, it would warm up to around 1200 rpms, then I'd tap the gas once to take it off fast idle, and drive away! And no, I didn't wait in the car that whole time, it was too frickin' COLD!
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Where did you get that Carter that fit the Chrysler linkeages
They made gazillions of them in the 60s. We found it on eBay. Unfortunately they are getting hard to find.
Would you have the part number for the BBS Carter that you used?
I don’t… we found it on eBay, and it doesn’t seem to be available anymore. So that’s a problem.
dang i hoping to get one I just bought a 1967 dodge d100 truck with a slant six in it my carb is shot and missing some pieces.
I need a 72 holley 1920 to rebuild, tried rebuilding mine and it barely will run. Must be plugged in metering block.
They’re all like that… that’s why I throw them in the garbage.
@DeadDodgeGarage ok thanks, but still want to revive mine if possible. So I will keep looking for parts.
where did you get your carburator?
eBay, and I think they’re all gone now…
Was the Holley 1920 vs Carter one of those 'lowest cost bidder' situations?
That would make a lot of sense… I think we can all agree Holley is a reputable brand that always made good stuff. The 1920 just happened to not be engineered to last 50 years…
@@DeadDodgeGarage Agreed, Holley stuff is normally good quality.
Old alky gas & electralysis seem to do more damage to the multi-metal Holley design
Holley 1920 was the performance upgrade (according to my 63 dart shop a manual)
Would you be able to help me fix my slant six on my Dodge Truck
I’m not sure what you need, but you can email me at jamienoise@gmail.Com and I’ll see what I can do.
How did i miss this one lol. Ya the 1920. Was that model named after its year of origin. They ack like it. I am a carb guy and its the only one ever to allude me on the whyyyyyy. Key here is mopars dont like holleys. Unless we are talking like something that needs a trash can with 4 holes in it. Which is what i call my 1050 dominator.😂 it gets fuel economy 2 gallons per mile.
Hahahaha. I think about the year 1920 every time I have to talk about this pieces of scrap. I think the way you missed it is, I made it almost a year ago. The RUclipss just throw out randos sometimes for reasons I wouldn't know how to explain.
The holy 1920 is the best car for the slant just clean them out.but holly stoped making rebuild kit back in the 2000 's so it being rebuilt no just cleaned it was so that not rebuilt.if you want send them my way I will take them instead of busting them up.but bbd is great to.
Whether Holley makes kits or not, aftermarket has them so it’s definitely still possible to “rebuild” them. Which is the same as cleaning, plus new gaskets and small pieces, so I’m not really sure I understand your point. Personally I think the BBS is better, and trying to make the 1920 idle is a waste of time. Every slant six car I’ve ever owned had a 1920 and had idling problems, usually requiring the choke to stay partially closed. Every 1920 (but one) I have ever dealt with had this problem. Apparently not everyone else has had that experience. I accept that, but stand by my point.
Great video thanks im gonna get one for my dad's 71 Swinger
They’ve gotten a little harder to find lately. Hopefully you can track one down.
@@DeadDodgeGarage i just realized that as well 😂
I’ve never had any issues with a 1920.
I have seen a couple that work fine. I have seen many that will not idle unless the choke is partially closed. I know there is a lead plug that can be removed to clean out the idle circuit, which can then be covered with epoxy or whatever. That’s way too much trouble to make something kinda sorta work again for a while. The BBS is a direct bolt on swap and is so much easier to work on.
@@DeadDodgeGarage where can you find a bbs I’ve searched eBay and google with little to no luck but I am young and have no knowledge but want my 82 d150 /6 stepside to NOT SUCK between the 1920 and lean burn ahhhhh
@@johnhenderson4837 www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=Carter+BBS+Dodge&_sacat=0 you've got options. There are several versions of the throttle linkage setup so make sure you pick the one that looks most like what is on your truck. That lean burn needs to go! Awful nightmare fuel... The 80s slant is capable of running really well if you get those systems sorted out.
@@DeadDodgeGarage would you tackle the lean burn system first or the carb
Truck starts ok but runs rough almost always, it’s an old forestry service truck
@@johnhenderson4837 personally, I think I would be pitching both at once. Doesn't the carb have electronic controls built into it? The carb swap is going to be the easier job if you (like many mechanic types) find the electrical side of things is a little daunting. But the lean burn ignition control really sucks, and I can only imagine it won't work right with the carb removed.
Zero explanation why the 1920 is so bad 😂
They never idle for shit