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That's what happens when Rocksteady does writing stuff for themselves or bringing a very rookie crew of writers instead of bringing back or even asking tips to Paul Dini or even Geoff Johns (who despite his infamy can still do something decent... kinda) for the plot of this.
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 From what I've read from many comments, the people of Rocksteady that worked on the previous Batman already left and were not involved with this game. They now have a different game studio called Hundred Star Games.
@@eliberman9956Wait a minute you think all this extra content all the other brainiacs in play all the dlc's was made cuase deadshot was black you genuinely think they spent 7 years to explain why dead shot is black
Well that's what happens when someone wasn't paying attention or playing but i played the last part online which was fun like other parts@@TheGamingManiac
this game messes around with multiverse stuff so honestly it wouldn't be too farfetched if rocksteady said this was a parallel universe where the justice league failed
They went through all that fuckin trouble of making Deadshot black instead of using Bloodsport. I bet I can count the brain cells of these game developers on one hand
It’s a plot point that it’s a deadshot from another universe, a mystery that literally goes hand in hand with stuff that happens in the game stop complaining
@@itsnoyoose8135 Nah, we wont stop complaining about the obvious black washing in every media. And you're not gonna stop defending these ant white corporations cause you're a sheep.
No, because then you wouldnt have pictures of the white one in "the batman experience", which clearly shows everything that happened in the arkham games, including having a white deadshot The white one is from another universe and he traveled to the arkham verse when when the black one was retired, before AO. The black one was never caught before so the police, batman, and the rest of the world only knew the white one, when the black one heard about him he hunted him down and killed him because he was afraid it would bring attention to him and his daughter. That was when he was captured by Green Lantern
This just makes it more confusing. What was wrong with keeping Deadshot the way he is from “City” and “Origins”? Just because Will Smith played him in the movie, doesn’t mean the original Deadshot is black.
Because they're out of their minds. We're living through a time when stupid ass people try to pathetically please the stupid ass teenagers in a stupid ass way. This also includes some young adults, and some of them are even more "stupid ass" than the mentioned teens. Don't ever let any braindead mofo's tell you otherwise, that such actions from video game developers are good/acceptable.
He should have been Bloodsport, and said that he took the mantle of Deadshot after the original died, and looked after his daughter. Like Bloodsport, Deadshot and Deathstroke knew each other from way back. And after Deadshot was killed by Red Hood/Arkham Knight, Bloodsport changes his name to Deadshot as a tribute to his old rival/friend, and is looking after Deadshot’s daughter. See. Super simple. None of this incoherent bull they’re trying to do.
The difference is, we’re fans who love these characters in the world they come from. The dip shits that made this game couldn’t be bothered to read the cover of the comic book this Lore comes from.
That's. . . *An actually better explanation. . .* Most mercenaries in comics are professional and each of them have a code, no matter how fucky they may be. Too bad though, this game, and whatever woke dumbfuckery of a narrative/plotline it has, is what they gave us. Too bad for them too, cause we ain't eatin'.
Bruh this imposter dead shot bull crap makes no sense, they should of only kept the old Dead shot since he's been in 3 different Arkham games and a movie...
Or use Will Evans Deadshot, an actual black guy Deadshot they literally made because of Will Smith's Deadshot Then again this is game that decided to do 4 Squaders that Are NOTHING alike to each other and give them all guns And gadgets of absolutely unrelated different characters. Even Square Enix wasn't "smart" enough to give their Avengers guns or gadgets from other characters just so they could double jump or traverse. Like why not use super villains from DC that ALREADY have guns and ALREADY very similar in terms of physical capabilities and all that. Or better yet just use comics based Bloodsport as One guy, maybe with 3 other gun based DC villains if it is Co-op mode. On every single level this "game" made absolutely wrong decision.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz tbh, that Avengers game was good. Apart from lack of content and more diverse content though, one of its main problems was having all character more or less same speed, just so people could catch up online. Black Widow catching up on foot to flying Iron Man or Thor didnt make much sense and felt a bit goofy xd Quicksilver would feel so slow if they ever added him to the game xd
@@kptmaci4979 "one of its main problems was having all character more or less same speed, just so people could catch up online. Black Widow catching up on foot to flying Iron Man or Thor didnt make much sense and felt a bit goofy xd Quicksilver would feel so slow if they ever added him to the game xd" that's why i h8 this game so much. Once I had my Hulk being even mildly phased by some random normal sized guy with a baton it was over for me, especially because in parallel I played Iron Man game on PC, which was very dogshit looking port from PS2 (while PS3 and Xbox 360 versions existed with adequate graphics) but it had absolutely HUGE (even compared to GTA of same years) maps where you Really get to feel like you playing as character that Has to fly with same speed as jet just to beat level in minutes instead of in hours if it was Avengers' speed. I just don't understand why even attempt to balance these characters, for me it is absolutely great time to play EA Battlefronts as a normie grunt next to Luke Skywalker that is much faster than me, much more durable, can jump much higher than me, etc etc etc. Or play Against someone like Darth Vader or Maul or Boba, with My only vaalid tactics against being running away and hoping that maybe my other grunt buddies come around to jump at them. But man, compared with SSKTJ Avengers is brilliant and has more value. Instead of looking as cheap uninspired Fortnite knock off.
It’s implied that Black Deadshot is from another universe but they didn’t really discuss that in the main game which was a bad decision for real since it made a lot of people confused.
It's the opposite, this Deadshot is the original, the other one is most likely from a parallel world. The game's audio files you unlock for Deadshot explains that. This Deadshot is the original that retired a long time ago. The one we see in the entire Arkhamverse prior to this was a copy cat or from a parallel world. This one in KTJL is the original one.
@@aires425I honestly doubt that. Luthor even shut him down when Deadshot asked if the white one could’ve been the Earth 2 Deadshot. It honestly makes more sense for black Deadshot to be from an alternate universe who somehow ended up here. The one issue is his daughter, but it could be explained if they do it right. I still think it’s unnecessary to bring all this multiverse stuff just to explain why they race swapped Deadshot, when they could have just brought in Bloodsport, or Bronze Tiger even. But I think this whole plot is interesting and I am excited to see how it plays out.
@@aires425yes it plays into the story and I’m not gonna pretend like it’s bad writing or anything because because they are dropping clues here and there, but at the end of the day it IS an unnecessary addition when they could’ve just brought in a different character if they wanted to include a person of color.
And in the bio for John Stewart in this game (that is supposedly written by black Deadshot) he calls him "one of the good ones", which is just really weird and I don't understand why the writers at Sweet Baby Inc feel the need to inject their race-grifting into this game
To be fair every adaptation of the suicide squad we've gotten Deadshot has either been black or had dark skin considering both suicide squad movies Deadshot was black since the first film he was played by Will Smith (don't remember who played him in the second film) and even in the assault on Arkham animated film he had dark skin (can't remember if he was actually black or if he just had dark skin)
@@KnightmareSenpaihe was white in Assault on Arkham. Though they did make him look sorta Hispanic, but he’s not (I mean he could be white hispanic but he’s only ever classified as white, and that’s more of an ethnicity than a race so it doesn’t really matter).
This explains why brainiac referred to his mind controlled justice league as ,"My justice league." He most likely has multiple sets of them for each clone of brainiac from other worlds. This also means that there is potential that none of them are dead truly because he can clone, regenerate or just unleash another set of them.
MASSIVE SPOILERS they already said in game that the leagues DNA's dont match up. Brainiac indeed cloned them. Its why green lanterns ring doesnt fly away, why superman isnt weak to kryptonite, why flashs' finger regenerates when he comes back evil. Hence why they would actually be weaker than their the counterparts. The game is a live service and most likely will have future seasons rescuing members of the real justice league from the ship.
@@jinji_xo if this is the case then the only leaguer dead is wonder woman unless they use the fact she is a war god and have her have been pulled away by her dad which is zeus.
so why didnt he before he gets decimated??? why didnt he just release whole troops of JL to take over the world? this is a very very stupid excuse for a very very stupid story just because they want the game to be live service and makes us pay more fucking money
It’s the same with why ‘back for blood’ failed, and the many here saying “cope” apparently didn’t realize that trying to market the game as being made by the “creators of left 4 dead” would somehow save the game from being dead on arrival lol. Surely back 4 blood will be as good as left 4 dead, surely!
@@moongoalie2410 left 4 dead isn't all that great of a game neither are the Arkham series. There's no game that's the pinnacle of gaming. There's games you like and games you don't. It's that simple.
This just contradicts Batman being "worlds greatest detective." In the Arkham games, you'd think batman would have deduced that Deadshot in Arkham City was a fraud. Then again, there was a moment where Batman noticed in on of deadshots vantage points that he was "getting sloppy" leaving evidence.
Yeah and when people are saying "this is just another arkham universe" or "this is just a different universe deadshot" I'm questioning if Rocksteady was adamant for this to set after arkham knight you'd think they could've made this character bloodsport. So imagine if this game hadn't gone the push back they way it did. I'm pretty sure they would've kept that this was in the same arkham universe that we know, like if batman in this game is the same arkham batman then all they did was use the "oh this is just another arkham universe, so arkham batman you know isn't dead' yeah I'm pretty sure all those delays they wanted to lessen the blowback when the game came out. I'm still not considering this to be none canon imo but I'm just thinking about all this that Rocksteady did attend to be set in the same universe. And all these people who say "this isn't the same arkham universe" are just damage controlling
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 Every decision they made for this game was driven by money. They made a Suicide Squad game to profit off the hype and relevance of the team after two film releases. They made Deadshot black to make him recognizable after Will Smith’s portrayal. They killed off the Justice League because shock media and subverting expectations is popular these days. They made it live service because that’s the trendy business model these days. They set it in the Arkhamverse because to appeal to Arkham fans. The whole game, even conceptually, is so insincere and greedy.
Yeah that’s what I think a lot of people are missing and it’s why I think the black Deadshot is actually from a different universe. If he was really the original Deadshot here, he would be known. Considering the fact that the white Deadshot used the name Floyd Lawton, that would mean he would have to somehow know that the black Deadshot was Floyd Lawton. Assuming that is known information, people wouldn’t just believe that a formerly black guy is now white. And considering Floyd Lawton as a character is ex-military, he would be known, even if he had never been caught when he had the mantle of Deadshot originally. My point is, Floyd Lawton isn’t unknown. It’s NOT like the black Deadshot never revealed his identity, so when a white guy came along and took the mantle they didn’t question it. Floyd Lawton would be in the system. If the original Floyd of this verse truly was black, they would know. So somehow the black one has to have been from an alternate universe and somehow he ended up here unknowingly, with his daughter. So it doesn’t seem like an accident, someone from his home universe must have sent them here on purpose for a reason. I hope this gets further explored in future seasons.
This is kinda funnier if you know that in the comics there was a black guy with the same gimmick and a grudge againts Lawton who took him down and took on the Deadshot persona for a bit, wearing a blue Deadshot suit along with it.
Yeah his name is Will Evans. See they could have just used that Deadshot, it would have made sense with the whole "i killed the old Deadshot" plot they've got going on. But nope, gotta try to explain race swapping somehow instead
@@The_VanDal Well technically if thif they did call him Will Evans and kept the same story, they would explain the race swap while also giving a spotlight to a character of color
"Yeah, I killed that white Deadshot, but it was really close, see? I'm definitely the better shooter, but only by a bit" Oh, no, please, don't hold back for us. What's one more character getting shat on? Go ahead and write that the old Deadshot stood no chance against yours, like you really want to.
@@DgardsGamingyou mean like when Barry makes jokes about being Wally’s brother on the CW lol. People like you are just as bad as the super sensitive sjw types. Always looking for something to get offended over even when its not there.
That's not how that works. The sentence isn't racist. "He's just like me, except he's (insert other race)" isn't racist, it's stating a fact@@DgardsGaming
I disagree. Race swapping just for the sake of race swapping is always super annoying. This is an unnecessary change, but at least they are trying to explain it in universe instead of just basically ignoring continuity.
The problem is when they released the SS game teaser trailer in 2020 that have a black Deadshot, nobody heard of Bloodsport until they announced the different SS movie that they introduced the character in 2021. So you should blame on WB for forced them to make Deadshot black just because Will Smith played the character in that movie (not 2021, the 2016 one)
The real reason Deadshot is black in this game because Will Smith played as the character in that terrible Suicide Squad film. If they made him Bloodsport in this game, thst would've been fine. Hell, they could've just made it that the Deadshot from the Arkham games was the original one and this one either killed the original or he died some other way and took the title of Deadshot.
@@LAGator-qu7tc Bloodsport isn't white and that's the point he was making, if they really wanted to include a black dude. But yeah, Deadshot being black is supposedly due to WS and the game being in dev since 2016 supposedly. The multiverse does help the bigger picture about all this tho, but still, this was a bad move on their part
But none of going back in time has that in the movie. It's all happening at same timeline. Like how Miles father died instead of his uncle and became Prowler.
If the theory that Lex-2 is actually a Braniac in disguise, then i wouldnt be surprised if the other Deadshot was from earth 2 and he was sent to earth 1 as a sort of recon unit for him, and maybe he eventually went rouge. Im wondering if Lex-2 is actually Braniac 5. It seems oddly convenient that he was the only one to survive the Braniac assault there. Also, we never saw an Earth 2 Braniac. We just fought the Earth 1 one there.
@@berk3857I don’t think the writing is lazy at all. In fact if you really look at all the audio logs and hints from the main game, they set up a lot of storylines that are going to be resolved in future dlc. I think this Deadshot plot is unnecessary, but it’s not badly written and I think making theories is a part of the fun.
It’s the same loophole Disney tried to do with novels that contextualize the many reoccurring problems seen throughout the last jedi, and the final movie. Many bad faith actors who approve of this crap are obviously pretending to not see how lazy this sort of retconning is, especially when the creators are afraid to ever put in on the big screen to solidify its validity, but instead chose the least expensive option lol.
My guy it's a video game like for F##k sake this is media for a new generation if you couldn't tell lately it's writers do stuff like this all the time 😑🤣
But it’s not confirmed that the white Deadshot is from an alternate universe. The black one could be. These audio logs are pretty inconclusive on purpose. There’s a larger story at play here that will play out in further seasons.
Man, they are trying too hard to tell us that the Cooler Origins and City Deadshot is a fake. SS Deadshot can't even ricochet his bullets like Origins and City Deadshot. For all I care SS Deadshot is just a token black dude. And SS will never ever be canon to the Arkhamverse. Arkham Series ended with Arkham Knight and that's that
Alright so they confirmed one of them is from a parallel universe. Call me crazy but i still have a hard time belivieng this one is the "real" Deadshot because the other guy operated for over ten years before the current one went after him, and the new one killed the old one because was convinced it would bring heat on him.
It’s not a token character, they’re doing it to bring in fans of the movie - where they cast Will Smith in the Role, lots of media does this. People thinking this is some sort of token wokeism are just looking for something to be upset about.
If anything, this guy is the phony. OG Deadshot was in Arkham Origins and Arkham City, this guy was in none of them and hadn’t been doing shit during that time. He was retired for the entirety of Batman’s career, dude should be in his 50’s or something
The game's audio files you unlock for Deadshot explains that he retired a long time ago because he wanted to be a better father for his daughter. When he found out that there was someone out there using his name and his skills to be him, aka the Deadshot we know, he came out of retirement and killed that Deadshot. This one in KTJL is the original one. The other is a parallel world Deadshot or a copy cat villain. Which if you know DC as a whole, either one is possible because stuff like this in DC happens all the time.
@youdononeetokno cause he was tracking him down. Him and the other deadshot were literally identical. The game explains all of that. He took so long, because the other deadshot was a literal mimic.
@@aires425imagine having to shill out this obvious last minute continuity error because Sweetbabyinc needed to force in a black person into the squad for ESG purposes. Nevermind that you have a spectrum of other races or ethnicities to chose from, yet apparently the character is black….why? Well, if you’re not plaything this dumb game of using the last minute lore change from the writers, you know this decision was most likely made because of Will Smith’s portrayal of the character. Which ultimately gave Sweetbabyinc an easy excuse to include this token, despite being an “inclusive” company, and deciding that black people are the only colored race that exists lol.
my headcanon is that the black deadshot got caught early into his criminal career and the very problematic vigilant, William Hell, co-opted the deadshot name to hide his true identity. Could have easily reference the Ostrander run and explained the continuity error without using the multiverse excuse.
That's sweet baby inc writing for ya they are about diversity so much they just try to retcon the whole this is dead shot and not the white one I swear the writing is terrible everything is terrible
I do wish Deadshot was replaced by Bloodsport because his weapon gimmick is so cool and he shot superman with a kryptonite bullet, so killing him with one would be neat to see.
I'm telling you😂 the plot is good. Everything that's considered a "plot hole" by haters is answered in the game or will be answered in the situations of the flash finger and green lantern ring clone theory. But because "OMG they ended up killing the justice league I thought the devs were lying😢.... 😲🤬 The game sucks" They've told us exactly what this game was and how this game would be.... Yet everyone who hasn't played it... Hates it. And everyone who played the game and enjoyed it for what it was, loves it.
@@Picmanrebornso like flash who's been able to outrun death dying to a bullet makes sense? Or green lantern who was previously able to keep the squad hostage dying to them, makes sense? Or superman who was literally able to melt the gold kryptonite, not doing that makes sense? Or better yet, batman whos fought extremely powerful villains all in a single night four separate times. Like how he fought and defeated the white dead shot, like more than four times, and in this game the new dead shot says that was was the same level. Or better yet how's he beaten Harley's ass like every single time before, or how he's taken on Grundy, killer croc, and even fucking clay face but he can't beat machine gun shark? I am one of the few people who was willing to give this game a shot but it doesn't matter how fun the gameplay or traversal is if the fucking story is absolute dog shit.
"Loves it" is a strong word. You probably think that because you liked the game and youtube noticed or something. The game IS bad. Its a fact, cannot be denied. You can like the game, its ok. It depends between each person. But it Doesnt make the Game any better. There WERE a lot of problems on the story... Weird decisions... Some terrible. Lots of plot armor. Overrall Bad. "OMG they ended up killing the justice league I thought the devs were lying" - No, thats not what people were hating on. They KNEW the Justice League would die. But they expected to better executed. The leaks of the game, started making the fans afraid of what the game were turning and what concequences it would bring to the Universe of the Games they cared abour. Afraid that it would be better if it were lefted as it was... They were Right. But they didnt know yet. They started creating theorys in hope that it could be changed. They had hope that the game would surpass their expectatives and have some ploy twist or something like that. "everyone who played the game and enjoyed it for what it was, loves it." - I had trouble finding someone who actually liked this game. In fact, most people who played it didnt like it, or said it was mid. Aside from casual players and the ones who didnt know about what they were talking, of course. @@Picmanreborn
People would still not like the game Arkham verse or not since it would still have bad plot and poor writing. Being connected to Arkham just made it worse for WB
The only reason they’re adamant on having Arkhamverse is because they genuinely want to disrespect you and your hero’s this is done on purpose. Fucking pissing on a corpse really? (Actually happens to one of the hero’s)
Everyone is talking about deadshot, but my question is how is king shark alive if he supposedly died in Assault at Arkham? Isn’t that movie part of the Arkhamverse
Yeah, I want to believe the deadshot from the Arkham games ended up on the earth of the Suicid Squad game just like Lex Luthor later on and therefore that they are just indirectly connected. Makes no sense anyway cause Deadshot’s first public appearance was in Origins and it’s the supposed « doppleganger » so the one from Suicid Squad cannot be the real if he’s not the first.
I like to imagine Brainiac was using the OG Deadshot like a Guinea pig as well as a bunch of other heroes(like lady boomerang) during a way earlier invasion of Earth 2, in which Deadshot was thrown into another world, and Brainiac began his plan to dominate multiple worlds, while Deadshot got to live a new life, perhaps the teleportation fried his memory too and that’s why he doesn’t tell anyone, or he does and they think he’s crazy so he decides to move on from that because he thinks Brainiac won’t get to him. I still believe they should have used Bloodsport but with the dumb lore Rocksteady used I think my theory helps things make a bit more sense
My theory was that this guy was an obsessed stalker who copied Deadshot, trained up, got the same gear and then went to become the only deadshot, only when he succeeded he had a compete mental breakdown and now thinks he is Lawton. The dna and prints are an issue, but in a world of glowing hackers and crazy people leaving question marks everywhere I’m sure he could have had the originals data swapped out for his. Everything else is his word, and if he is a delusional murderer, his word isn’t worth much, even to himself.
This isn’t the only time they race swap a character in dc. The original bloodsport was black and than when he went to Stryker his successor became white.
Harley: (after the tape 7 conversation) No luck with Lex 2? Deadshot: Luthor is dead set on the poser not coming from his Earth. So that leaves 3 options. He doesn't want to share the whole story. Something he didn't know happened behind his back. Or the poser came from somewhere else.
This game could have been a beast…if they not decide to scrap it under SBI. They could have make this game into a heist. Stealth or Loud, king shark be a tanker, while Harley doing AOE with explode grenade, deadshot high damage low health, favor charge shot, Cpt Boomerang can teleport, set trap, etc. but no, they make it openworld shooter that was boring.
I'm going to be honest. And I'm not trying to sound racist or anything. I feel like the only reason why they decided to make Deadshot black is because they were just trying to copy what the Suicide Squad movie did. That's literally the only explanation.
So this deadshot got pulled in from another universe then killed the original Arkham deadshot then started having beef with green lantern (also his daughter got pulled in?)
It definitely seems to me that this isn't the Arkhamverse we knew and is instead just a really similar universe that the Arkham Deadshot somehow ended up in. Both Deadshots are almost identical apart from the skin colour, they have the same blood, finger prints and backstory. And then there's the part about white Deadshot being holed up in a clocktower with enough ammunition to bring down a small nation, was he aware this universe's Deadshot would come after him since they think alike or was he actually about to have one final shootout with the world after finding himself lost in a place that seems similar to home but doesn't include his daughter.
Interesting theory. As much as I have defended and enjoyed this game, I wouldn’t be mad if it takes place in an alternate Arkhamverse if written properly.
ide argue the og is the one with the comic accurate lore with his daughter zoe where they had a whole canon movie about his arch getting out of prison to be with her. And the fake deadshot is the one who calls himself deadshot with a pallet swap.
I'm all for retcons. I can't help but feel like given the plot of the game this game should've had an Arkham cameo but be set on a different earth than the batman games
So Deadshot in Suicide Squad is from the multiverse and not the original from Arkham City and Etc. that makes perfect sense given the context of this game
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They really used the multiverse to explain why Deadshot is black when they could've just,.....not set it in the Arkhamverse
That's what happens when Rocksteady does writing stuff for themselves or bringing a very rookie crew of writers instead of bringing back or even asking tips to Paul Dini or even Geoff Johns (who despite his infamy can still do something decent... kinda) for the plot of this.
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 From what I've read from many comments, the people of Rocksteady that worked on the previous Batman already left and were not involved with this game. They now have a different game studio called Hundred Star Games.
its okay all they have to do is get Flash to run real fast and turn back... ohhhh
@@eliberman9956Wait a minute you think all this extra content all the other brainiacs in play all the dlc's was made cuase deadshot was black you genuinely think they spent 7 years to explain why dead shot is black
@@chromephone from how this “content” looks I would say yeah, they spent 7 years working on this deadshot explanation
This ain’t the real Deadshot, he hasn’t done one ricochet trick like he WAS KNOWN FOR in Arkham
fr fr, that was what made his shot trajectory so tricky for batman to calculate! he throws off the calculations with ricochets.
he did ONE at the very end of the game when all the characters were fighting for control over the Brainiac in the bottle
Well that's what happens when someone wasn't paying attention or playing but i played the last part online which was fun like other parts@@TheGamingManiac
@@TheGamingManiacHm, I’ll give em that..
This presumably “fake deadshot” had barely missed him though.
@@destroyermcw626ok Rocksteady, stop promoting your trash game.
They really went all this trouble instead of making the game an elseworld OR keeping the og Deadshot OR bringing another black character.
No this was there plan😂😂. Since the multiverse was confirmed, by other Easter eggs not just Deadshot.
this game messes around with multiverse stuff so honestly it wouldn't be too farfetched if rocksteady said this was a parallel universe where the justice league failed
These 4 are an anomaly
I don’t mind elsworld games. But I get it, work smarter not harder.
Would've loved to see an interation of bloodsport
They went through all that fuckin trouble of making Deadshot black instead of using Bloodsport. I bet I can count the brain cells of these game developers on one hand
It’s a plot point that it’s a deadshot from another universe, a mystery that literally goes hand in hand with stuff that happens in the game stop complaining
@@itsnoyoose8135 Nah. This shitshow deserves no recognition
@@itsnoyoose8135they had no type of intelligence to pick that up
@@itsnoyoose8135 Nah, we wont stop complaining about the obvious black washing in every media. And you're not gonna stop defending these ant white corporations cause you're a sheep.
Nope is the writers ruined the lore
So, this proves that SS isnt in the Legit Arkhamverse, a parallel world where brainiac attacks
This means that the prime Arkham Batman is different from sskjl Arkham Batman 😅
that could fix so much, if they only put it out there more
if they wanted too, but more than likely it is the arkhamverse with a flashpoint coming
I like this theory so I’m keeping it as Canon lmao
No, because then you wouldnt have pictures of the white one in "the batman experience", which clearly shows everything that happened in the arkham games, including having a white deadshot
The white one is from another universe and he traveled to the arkham verse when when the black one was retired, before AO. The black one was never caught before so the police, batman, and the rest of the world only knew the white one, when the black one heard about him he hunted him down and killed him because he was afraid it would bring attention to him and his daughter. That was when he was captured by Green Lantern
This just makes it more confusing. What was wrong with keeping Deadshot the way he is from “City” and “Origins”? Just because Will Smith played him in the movie, doesn’t mean the original Deadshot is black.
If you’re confused by this you need to stop playing video games
Agreed
Because they're out of their minds. We're living through a time when stupid ass people try to pathetically please the stupid ass teenagers in a stupid ass way. This also includes some young adults, and some of them are even more "stupid ass" than the mentioned teens. Don't ever let any braindead mofo's tell you otherwise, that such actions from video game developers are good/acceptable.
@@thecringeprince2040You are spending your entire day replying to every person that doesn't like this game?
@@VanessaWong-yi5pe you can’t even properly identify the passage of time. Don’t ever @ me again
So that means Floyd just orphaned the daughter of this universe.
Oh god
"Hello Deadshot from the Arkhamverse"
"Hello Velma from Scooby-Doo"
That is true
"Hello Ariel from the little mermaid"
"hello CW Batwoman"
🤣🤣🤣😂
He should have been Bloodsport, and said that he took the mantle of Deadshot after the original died, and looked after his daughter.
Like Bloodsport, Deadshot and Deathstroke knew each other from way back. And after Deadshot was killed by Red Hood/Arkham Knight, Bloodsport changes his name to Deadshot as a tribute to his old rival/friend, and is looking after Deadshot’s daughter.
See. Super simple. None of this incoherent bull they’re trying to do.
Wokeness matters more than coherent worldbuilding though! Can't hit those ESG targets otherwise!
The difference is, we’re fans who love these characters in the world they come from. The dip shits that made this game couldn’t be bothered to read the cover of the comic book this Lore comes from.
That's. . . *An actually better explanation. . .*
Most mercenaries in comics are professional and each of them have a code, no matter how fucky they may be.
Too bad though, this game, and whatever woke dumbfuckery of a narrative/plotline it has, is what they gave us. Too bad for them too, cause we ain't eatin'.
that's... actually a decent idea.
He actually has Revitaligo a skin condition of what Michael Jackson had....only reversed!
Ok now I kinda want a deadshot that talks like Uncle Ruckus.
"I'm 104% Deadshot, with a 4% margin of error."
Bruh this imposter dead shot bull crap makes no sense, they should of only kept the old Dead shot since he's been in 3 different Arkham games and a movie...
Or just use blood sport
I feel like the multiverse is a narrative cop out and a jump the shark moment
Or use Will Evans Deadshot, an actual black guy Deadshot they literally made because of Will Smith's Deadshot
Then again this is game that decided to do 4 Squaders that Are NOTHING alike to each other and give them all guns And gadgets of absolutely unrelated different characters. Even Square Enix wasn't "smart" enough to give their Avengers guns or gadgets from other characters just so they could double jump or traverse.
Like why not use super villains from DC that ALREADY have guns and ALREADY very similar in terms of physical capabilities and all that.
Or better yet just use comics based Bloodsport as One guy, maybe with 3 other gun based DC villains if it is Co-op mode.
On every single level this "game" made absolutely wrong decision.
@@FirstnameLastname-my7bz tbh, that Avengers game was good. Apart from lack of content and more diverse content though, one of its main problems was having all character more or less same speed, just so people could catch up online. Black Widow catching up on foot to flying Iron Man or Thor didnt make much sense and felt a bit goofy xd Quicksilver would feel so slow if they ever added him to the game xd
@@kptmaci4979 "one of its main problems was having all character more or less same speed, just so people could catch up online. Black Widow catching up on foot to flying Iron Man or Thor didnt make much sense and felt a bit goofy xd Quicksilver would feel so slow if they ever added him to the game xd"
that's why i h8 this game so much. Once I had my Hulk being even mildly phased by some random normal sized guy with a baton it was over for me, especially because in parallel I played Iron Man game on PC, which was very dogshit looking port from PS2 (while PS3 and Xbox 360 versions existed with adequate graphics) but it had absolutely HUGE (even compared to GTA of same years) maps where you Really get to feel like you playing as character that Has to fly with same speed as jet just to beat level in minutes instead of in hours if it was Avengers' speed.
I just don't understand why even attempt to balance these characters, for me it is absolutely great time to play EA Battlefronts as a normie grunt next to Luke Skywalker that is much faster than me, much more durable, can jump much higher than me, etc etc etc. Or play Against someone like Darth Vader or Maul or Boba, with My only vaalid tactics against being running away and hoping that maybe my other grunt buddies come around to jump at them.
But man, compared with SSKTJ Avengers is brilliant and has more value. Instead of looking as cheap uninspired Fortnite knock off.
It’s implied that Black Deadshot is from another universe but they didn’t really discuss that in the main game which was a bad decision for real since it made a lot of people confused.
It's the opposite, this Deadshot is the original, the other one is most likely from a parallel world. The game's audio files you unlock for Deadshot explains that. This Deadshot is the original that retired a long time ago. The one we see in the entire Arkhamverse prior to this was a copy cat or from a parallel world. This one in KTJL is the original one.
Yea I think the other way fits better though, why did they have to make things difficult for themselves fr 🗿
@jennifermontoya1209 they didn't. It's a plot point for the character in the game, and it plays into the story.
@@aires425I honestly doubt that. Luthor even shut him down when Deadshot asked if the white one could’ve been the Earth 2 Deadshot. It honestly makes more sense for black Deadshot to be from an alternate universe who somehow ended up here. The one issue is his daughter, but it could be explained if they do it right. I still think it’s unnecessary to bring all this multiverse stuff just to explain why they race swapped Deadshot, when they could have just brought in Bloodsport, or Bronze Tiger even. But I think this whole plot is interesting and I am excited to see how it plays out.
@@aires425yes it plays into the story and I’m not gonna pretend like it’s bad writing or anything because because they are dropping clues here and there, but at the end of the day it IS an unnecessary addition when they could’ve just brought in a different character if they wanted to include a person of color.
They did this shit so he can have beef with Green Lantern. That's my theory
I feel the same
It’ probably just to make it similar to Will Smith’s version to attract general audiences
GL and Deadshot had that weird Black on Black beef lol
And in the bio for John Stewart in this game (that is supposedly written by black Deadshot) he calls him "one of the good ones", which is just really weird and I don't understand why the writers at Sweet Baby Inc feel the need to inject their race-grifting into this game
@_davidboxing Bro that's what I've been saying!! they had to portray the Black on Black Crime😂
I love all the bizarre attempts these Hollywood weirdos try to "canonize" race swaps as "the original character".
This is a video game not a movie?
@@sgtroach1510 Doesn't matter. "Hollywood weirdos" is a fitting description for those types.
To be fair every adaptation of the suicide squad we've gotten Deadshot has either been black or had dark skin considering both suicide squad movies Deadshot was black since the first film he was played by Will Smith (don't remember who played him in the second film) and even in the assault on Arkham animated film he had dark skin (can't remember if he was actually black or if he just had dark skin)
@@KnightmareSenpaihe was white in Assault on Arkham. Though they did make him look sorta Hispanic, but he’s not (I mean he could be white hispanic but he’s only ever classified as white, and that’s more of an ethnicity than a race so it doesn’t really matter).
@@KnightmareSenpai Nobody played Deadshot in the 2nd film bc he wasnt in it...
all this trouble just to insert will smith's Deadshot
There's no deep lore to explain this. They change the race of the character because they wanted to do it and that't it...
Motivation doesn't matter. The lore is deep. Its stupid lore, but it IS deep.
It’s because of will smith !!
its simple its anti white racism
This explains why brainiac referred to his mind controlled justice league as ,"My justice league." He most likely has multiple sets of them for each clone of brainiac from other worlds. This also means that there is potential that none of them are dead truly because he can clone, regenerate or just unleash another set of them.
MASSIVE SPOILERS
they already said in game that the leagues DNA's dont match up. Brainiac indeed cloned them. Its why green lanterns ring doesnt fly away, why superman isnt weak to kryptonite, why flashs' finger regenerates when he comes back evil. Hence why they would actually be weaker than their the counterparts. The game is a live service and most likely will have future seasons rescuing members of the real justice league from the ship.
@@jinji_xo if this is the case then the only leaguer dead is wonder woman unless they use the fact she is a war god and have her have been pulled away by her dad which is zeus.
so why didnt he before he gets decimated??? why didnt he just release whole troops of JL to take over the world? this is a very very stupid excuse for a very very stupid story just because they want the game to be live service and makes us pay more fucking money
@@TheProxy2 you must have loads of friends.
Game isn't cannon due to the fact that everyone who originally worked on the Arkham games no longer works at Rocksteady. Ship of Thesus and what not
Cap they only left a year or two ago stop it
Cope cope cope
One of the rocksteady founders is still with rocksteady and still works on suicide squad. Cope
It’s the same with why ‘back for blood’ failed, and the many here saying “cope” apparently didn’t realize that trying to market the game as being made by the “creators of left 4 dead” would somehow save the game from being dead on arrival lol.
Surely back 4 blood will be as good as left 4 dead, surely!
@@moongoalie2410 left 4 dead isn't all that great of a game neither are the Arkham series. There's no game that's the pinnacle of gaming. There's games you like and games you don't. It's that simple.
This just contradicts Batman being "worlds greatest detective." In the Arkham games, you'd think batman would have deduced that Deadshot in Arkham City was a fraud. Then again, there was a moment where Batman noticed in on of deadshots vantage points that he was "getting sloppy" leaving evidence.
He wasn't a fraud though. Just another Deadshot. It's him only difference is race
Batman never noticed that because that was the real Deadshot. Fuck this game
Yeah and when people are saying "this is just another arkham universe" or "this is just a different universe deadshot" I'm questioning if Rocksteady was adamant for this to set after arkham knight you'd think they could've made this character bloodsport.
So imagine if this game hadn't gone the push back they way it did. I'm pretty sure they would've kept that this was in the same arkham universe that we know, like if batman in this game is the same arkham batman then all they did was use the "oh this is just another arkham universe, so arkham batman you know isn't dead' yeah I'm pretty sure all those delays they wanted to lessen the blowback when the game came out.
I'm still not considering this to be none canon imo but I'm just thinking about all this that Rocksteady did attend to be set in the same universe. And all these people who say "this isn't the same arkham universe" are just damage controlling
@@BanishedSilentShadow3318 Every decision they made for this game was driven by money. They made a Suicide Squad game to profit off the hype and relevance of the team after two film releases. They made Deadshot black to make him recognizable after Will Smith’s portrayal. They killed off the Justice League because shock media and subverting expectations is popular these days. They made it live service because that’s the trendy business model these days. They set it in the Arkhamverse because to appeal to Arkham fans. The whole game, even conceptually, is so insincere and greedy.
Not just Batman, Hugo Strange also thought he was real, meaning two of the smartest people alive are actually dumb.
They should make this game non-canon to the Arkhamverse. It ended with Arkham Knight
What’s wrong? Loser baby can’t cope with the fact that arkham batman’s dead?
There is no way this is canon to Arkhamverse. Arkham Batman would never go out like that. He became a myth after AK and was never seen again.
@@Hugsloth
Boo hoo. Cope loser
Nah I like this game being canon to Arkhamverse. this is my favorite arkhamverse game.
If only we got that Damian Batman game we were meant to get instead of this, it's such a damn shame they cancelled it and gave us this piece instead.
So Hugo Strange and Black Mask hired the wrong guy twice.
And Batman somehow misidentified him. Suuuuuuuuure.
No did you watch the video lol
No. They are both Deadshot. By DNA and everything. Just like there are two luthors in this game so on and so forth
@@MonolithBrookshadowthat's stll realt stupid
In a sense it makes the white Deadshoot more special because he is a multiversal traveler.
Arron cash stated himself that the white deadshoot is the one in the database, maybe the black deadshot is convinced he is the original but is not
Yeah that’s what I think a lot of people are missing and it’s why I think the black Deadshot is actually from a different universe. If he was really the original Deadshot here, he would be known. Considering the fact that the white Deadshot used the name Floyd Lawton, that would mean he would have to somehow know that the black Deadshot was Floyd Lawton. Assuming that is known information, people wouldn’t just believe that a formerly black guy is now white. And considering Floyd Lawton as a character is ex-military, he would be known, even if he had never been caught when he had the mantle of Deadshot originally.
My point is, Floyd Lawton isn’t unknown. It’s NOT like the black Deadshot never revealed his identity, so when a white guy came along and took the mantle they didn’t question it. Floyd Lawton would be in the system. If the original Floyd of this verse truly was black, they would know.
So somehow the black one has to have been from an alternate universe and somehow he ended up here unknowingly, with his daughter. So it doesn’t seem like an accident, someone from his home universe must have sent them here on purpose for a reason. I hope this gets further explored in future seasons.
@@dakotatrue12 If the game makes it that far, always a possibility these live service game shut down b4 reaching their end goal.
This is kinda funnier if you know that in the comics there was a black guy with the same gimmick and a grudge againts Lawton who took him down and took on the Deadshot persona for a bit, wearing a blue Deadshot suit along with it.
Yeah his name is Will Evans. See they could have just used that Deadshot, it would have made sense with the whole "i killed the old Deadshot" plot they've got going on. But nope, gotta try to explain race swapping somehow instead
@@The_VanDal Well technically if thif they did call him Will Evans and kept the same story, they would explain the race swap while also giving a spotlight to a character of color
@@hujan1744 yeah it actually would have been perfectly fine
"Yeah, I killed that white Deadshot, but it was really close, see? I'm definitely the better shooter, but only by a bit"
Oh, no, please, don't hold back for us. What's one more character getting shat on? Go ahead and write that the old Deadshot stood no chance against yours, like you really want to.
0:45 "If he wasn't a White dude." Lets play the (Is it Racist Game), change the word white to any other and see if it sounds racist.
@@DgardsGaming..was he wrong? That deadshot was white 💀
@@jirengray6188Its way he said it and the double standards, imagine a white person saying it like that but replace white with black.
@@DgardsGamingyou mean like when Barry makes jokes about being Wally’s brother on the CW lol. People like you are just as bad as the super sensitive sjw types. Always looking for something to get offended over even when its not there.
That's not how that works. The sentence isn't racist. "He's just like me, except he's (insert other race)" isn't racist, it's stating a fact@@DgardsGaming
This is like the plot acrobatics the Matrix went through to recast the Oracle.
It's better to ignore it than to go through all this.
I disagree. Race swapping just for the sake of race swapping is always super annoying. This is an unnecessary change, but at least they are trying to explain it in universe instead of just basically ignoring continuity.
All this could have been avoided if they just went with Bloodsport
The problem is when they released the SS game teaser trailer in 2020 that have a black Deadshot, nobody heard of Bloodsport until they announced the different SS movie that they introduced the character in 2021.
So you should blame on WB for forced them to make Deadshot black just because Will Smith played the character in that movie (not 2021, the 2016 one)
The real reason Deadshot is black in this game because Will Smith played as the character in that terrible Suicide Squad film. If they made him Bloodsport in this game, thst would've been fine. Hell, they could've just made it that the Deadshot from the Arkham games was the original one and this one either killed the original or he died some other way and took the title of Deadshot.
But Bloodsport isn't even white so..... And Deadshot being black isn't cause of WS it's cause of multiverse shenanigans
@@LAGator-qu7tc Bloodsport isn't white and that's the point he was making, if they really wanted to include a black dude. But yeah, Deadshot being black is supposedly due to WS and the game being in dev since 2016 supposedly. The multiverse does help the bigger picture about all this tho, but still, this was a bad move on their part
@@CHRISCAMPO-wq8bi I don't think it was a bad move.... Just not the greatest, it's their IP ya know....
That’s what’s this game is pointing at …
Lex is so smug he thinks he the only person who can pull of universe travel
He is the smartest human in DC (and one of the smartest beings in general, only outclassed by Brainiac and a select few others).
@dakotatrue12 you remember when asked is batman dead in the comics before he declared he was the smartest being
He probably got there by accident and got sent back in time in the process, like what happened in Spider Man into the Spider Verse
But none of going back in time has that in the movie.
It's all happening at same timeline.
Like how Miles father died instead of his uncle and became Prowler.
@@SeriousDragonify it did remember Gwen Stacy the Spider Woman, she was sent back a week before the collider went off.
If the theory that Lex-2 is actually a Braniac in disguise, then i wouldnt be surprised if the other Deadshot was from earth 2 and he was sent to earth 1 as a sort of recon unit for him, and maybe he eventually went rouge. Im wondering if Lex-2 is actually Braniac 5. It seems oddly convenient that he was the only one to survive the Braniac assault there. Also, we never saw an Earth 2 Braniac. We just fought the Earth 1 one there.
fuck these theories. These writing (not yours rocksteady's) just lazy. Another theory from me: ıts all a dream we are pranked.
@@berk3857I don’t think the writing is lazy at all. In fact if you really look at all the audio logs and hints from the main game, they set up a lot of storylines that are going to be resolved in future dlc. I think this Deadshot plot is unnecessary, but it’s not badly written and I think making theories is a part of the fun.
Cmon man, a recon unit decided to be a random goon for batman to beat up? Seriously...
Its like people keep forgetting orgins Deadshot is confirmed to be the real one by cash and bruce.
Lmao fanboys will eat this shit up and go “SEE THEY EXPLAIN IT” 🤡
Nah bro. Most fanboys hate this shit
It’s the same loophole Disney tried to do with novels that contextualize the many reoccurring problems seen throughout the last jedi, and the final movie.
Many bad faith actors who approve of this crap are obviously pretending to not see how lazy this sort of retconning is, especially when the creators are afraid to ever put in on the big screen to solidify its validity, but instead chose the least expensive option lol.
@@InfinityThawn3nah alot of people are actually defending this
@@josueztheiii9089 yeh
My guy it's a video game like for F##k sake this is media for a new generation if you couldn't tell lately it's writers do stuff like this all the time 😑🤣
So there’s been a parallel universe Deadshot running around for decades , this change messed up a lot of things and my brain as well
But it’s not confirmed that the white Deadshot is from an alternate universe. The black one could be. These audio logs are pretty inconclusive on purpose. There’s a larger story at play here that will play out in further seasons.
Long term undoing all of this just feels like more retcon bs
Man, they are trying too hard to tell us that the Cooler Origins and City Deadshot is a fake.
SS Deadshot can't even ricochet his bullets like Origins and City Deadshot. For all I care SS Deadshot is just a token black dude. And SS will never ever be canon to the Arkhamverse. Arkham Series ended with Arkham Knight and that's that
Cope
@@LAGator-qu7tccope harder with your trash game
@@enenra6417 I have fun when I play it, you're the only one mad here. Lol copy with your feelings of anger as pop Brainiac in the skull
The game is not telling u that. The game is legit implying the black one is from elsewhere.
Did you watch the video before commenting lol
Alright so they confirmed one of them is from a parallel universe. Call me crazy but i still have a hard time belivieng this one is the "real" Deadshot because the other guy operated for over ten years before the current one went after him, and the new one killed the old one because was convinced it would bring heat on him.
Just so happens original deadshot can do all the feats that the real deadshot can do, this is such an asspull its sad lol
Deadshot: “You might know everything I’m going to do, but that’s not gonna help you since I know everything you’re going to do. Strange isn’t it?
Glad neither of them ended up dying in lava.
"Using my name, my rep" Ah yes like how the dead shot in this game is using the original dead shot name and reputation?
He meant to say "I'm using his name and rep and claiming he's a fake for bullshit reasons"
@@jrwith Sounds about right
White deadshot shoots better than black deadshot
Apparently not
This is not Arkham's Deadshot, period.
Rocksteady is trying really hard to convince us that the OG Deadshot was a phony just so they can include their token black character
It’s not a token character, they’re doing it to bring in fans of the movie - where they cast Will Smith in the Role, lots of media does this. People thinking this is some sort of token wokeism are just looking for something to be upset about.
If anything, this guy is the phony. OG Deadshot was in Arkham Origins and Arkham City, this guy was in none of them and hadn’t been doing shit during that time. He was retired for the entirety of Batman’s career, dude should be in his 50’s or something
Or doppelgangers from a other universe. He could've been earth 2 deadshot.
Should have just used Bloodsport instead.
isnt all that indicating though that the Deadshot we play with here is already a multiverse character? And Arkham one was this earths real one?
Man, this "He WuZ DeADshOt" is insanely elaborate.
My goodness, now I see why people hate the multiverse plot-twist.
They might be anticipating some sort of multiverse stuff, like they did with Brainiac at the end of the game.
It would be a decent idea.
they pulled an uncle ruckus with deadshot
So either Arkham Deadshot is from another Earth or Suicide Squad Deadshot is?
They’ve really bent over backwards to make the swap legit huh
This ain't Deadshot, thats gansta glock
Did the game developers not see batman assualt on Arkham? Cause amanda Waller was basically dead at the end. And that was in the Arkhamverse.
We never actually see Deadshot kill her. It's only implied.
Assault on Arkham stopped being canon a long time ago.
She actually survived because Batman saved her.
Not canon
@@someonethatexist3086 True
This game is a rotting corpse under the sun...
I say they should have been father and son, retcon would've made more sense then the multiverse Deadshot being in the Arkhamverse for years.
The only way youd know this is by eastereggs....how...how is that good marketing
Sorry but bullsh*t. Bloodsport would make more sense.
Or Will Evans Deadshot
How ?
@LAGator-qu7tc Because he is actually black
@@westhequagsireplus8191 my bad I was thinking of Sportsmaster.
Plus then you’d get a Superman villain (this team is 2 Batman villains, a flash villain and an Aquaman villain)
Remember when they had an imposter mad hatter for no reason? Never thought they'd do that in modern times.😂😂😂
Yeah, this is a bunch of bull
Yea even the voice actors knew they were being set up lol
He can’t be the original if everybody thinks dead shot is white
The game's audio files you unlock for Deadshot explains that he retired a long time ago because he wanted to be a better father for his daughter. When he found out that there was someone out there using his name and his skills to be him, aka the Deadshot we know, he came out of retirement and killed that Deadshot. This one in KTJL is the original one. The other is a parallel world Deadshot or a copy cat villain. Which if you know DC as a whole, either one is possible because stuff like this in DC happens all the time.
@@aires425this doesn't make sense because he took too damn long to kill him
@youdononeetokno cause he was tracking him down. Him and the other deadshot were literally identical. The game explains all of that. He took so long, because the other deadshot was a literal mimic.
@@aires425imagine having to shill out this obvious last minute continuity error because Sweetbabyinc needed to force in a black person into the squad for ESG purposes. Nevermind that you have a spectrum of other races or ethnicities to chose from, yet apparently the character is black….why? Well, if you’re not plaything this dumb game of using the last minute lore change from the writers, you know this decision was most likely made because of Will Smith’s portrayal of the character. Which ultimately gave Sweetbabyinc an easy excuse to include this token, despite being an “inclusive” company, and deciding that black people are the only colored race that exists lol.
@@moongoalie2410 sorry, I don't take your kind seriously.
SS turning the Arkhamverse into the Arkham-multiverse
did they just retcon that we've been dealing with a else worlds villain batmans entire career
His explanation should have been sweet baby inc.
Lazy retcon
my headcanon is that the black deadshot got caught early into his criminal career and the very problematic vigilant, William Hell, co-opted the deadshot name to hide his true identity. Could have easily reference the Ostrander run and explained the continuity error without using the multiverse excuse.
I would've made him a apprentice to OG and made him have respect for OG.
That's sweet baby inc writing for ya they are about diversity so much they just try to retcon the whole this is dead shot and not the white one I swear the writing is terrible everything is terrible
I do wish Deadshot was replaced by Bloodsport because his weapon gimmick is so cool and he shot superman with a kryptonite bullet, so killing him with one would be neat to see.
people would be SLURPING down this stuff if the game hadnt killed their arkham batgod
I'm telling you😂 the plot is good. Everything that's considered a "plot hole" by haters is answered in the game or will be answered in the situations of the flash finger and green lantern ring clone theory.
But because "OMG they ended up killing the justice league I thought the devs were lying😢.... 😲🤬 The game sucks"
They've told us exactly what this game was and how this game would be.... Yet everyone who hasn't played it... Hates it. And everyone who played the game and enjoyed it for what it was, loves it.
@@Picmanrebornso like flash who's been able to outrun death dying to a bullet makes sense? Or green lantern who was previously able to keep the squad hostage dying to them, makes sense? Or superman who was literally able to melt the gold kryptonite, not doing that makes sense?
Or better yet, batman whos fought extremely powerful villains all in a single night four separate times. Like how he fought and defeated the white dead shot, like more than four times, and in this game the new dead shot says that was was the same level. Or better yet how's he beaten Harley's ass like every single time before, or how he's taken on Grundy, killer croc, and even fucking clay face but he can't beat machine gun shark?
I am one of the few people who was willing to give this game a shot but it doesn't matter how fun the gameplay or traversal is if the fucking story is absolute dog shit.
"Loves it" is a strong word. You probably think that because you liked the game and youtube noticed or something. The game IS bad. Its a fact, cannot be denied. You can like the game, its ok. It depends between each person. But it Doesnt make the Game any better. There WERE a lot of problems on the story... Weird decisions... Some terrible. Lots of plot armor. Overrall Bad.
"OMG they ended up killing the justice league I thought the devs were lying"
- No, thats not what people were hating on. They KNEW the Justice League would die. But they expected to better executed. The leaks of the game, started making the fans afraid of what the game were turning and what concequences it would bring to the Universe of the Games they cared abour. Afraid that it would be better if it were lefted as it was... They were Right. But they didnt know yet. They started creating theorys in hope that it could be changed. They had hope that the game would surpass their expectatives and have some ploy twist or something like that.
"everyone who played the game and enjoyed it for what it was, loves it."
- I had trouble finding someone who actually liked this game. In fact, most people who played it didnt like it, or said it was mid. Aside from casual players and the ones who didnt know about what they were talking, of course.
@@Picmanreborn
People would still not like the game Arkham verse or not since it would still have bad plot and poor writing. Being connected to Arkham just made it worse for WB
@@beastlygamer21Stop saying Arkham
This game is not part of the Arkamverse. This is nothing more than a nightmare.
white deadshot kill amanda waller in batman assult on arkham
also king shark died rockstady is on drug for me white deadshot is real for me
Apparently on a "canonical comic" while Deadshot did shot Waller, Batman returned to her office to save her.
Deadshot? nah thats Unalive Glock
thank god i never bought this game
I thought it was an imposter of Floyd Lawton... This just blows my mind even more.
The only reason they’re adamant on having Arkhamverse is because they genuinely want to disrespect you and your hero’s this is done on purpose. Fucking pissing on a corpse really? (Actually happens to one of the hero’s)
Everyone is talking about deadshot, but my question is how is king shark alive if he supposedly died in Assault at Arkham? Isn’t that movie part of the Arkhamverse
Don’t think it was canon but hey if it was we can pull a “was from a different elseworld” 😂
TL;DR WB shoehorned their movie into the Arkham verse without thinking it through.
My first thought seeing him was "He doesn't look like Will Smith" 😂
Yeah, I want to believe the deadshot from the Arkham games ended up on the earth of the Suicid Squad game just like Lex Luthor later on and therefore that they are just indirectly connected.
Makes no sense anyway cause Deadshot’s first public appearance was in Origins and it’s the supposed « doppleganger » so the one from Suicid Squad cannot be the real if he’s not the first.
Should’ve just made him bloodsport
I like to imagine Brainiac was using the OG Deadshot like a Guinea pig as well as a bunch of other heroes(like lady boomerang) during a way earlier invasion of Earth 2, in which Deadshot was thrown into another world, and Brainiac began his plan to dominate multiple worlds, while Deadshot got to live a new life, perhaps the teleportation fried his memory too and that’s why he doesn’t tell anyone, or he does and they think he’s crazy so he decides to move on from that because he thinks Brainiac won’t get to him.
I still believe they should have used Bloodsport but with the dumb lore Rocksteady used I think my theory helps things make a bit more sense
My theory was that this guy was an obsessed stalker who copied Deadshot, trained up, got the same gear and then went to become the only deadshot, only when he succeeded he had a compete mental breakdown and now thinks he is Lawton. The dna and prints are an issue, but in a world of glowing hackers and crazy people leaving question marks everywhere I’m sure he could have had the originals data swapped out for his. Everything else is his word, and if he is a delusional murderer, his word isn’t worth much, even to himself.
This isn’t the only time they race swap a character in dc. The original bloodsport was black and than when he went to Stryker his successor became white.
Not the same thing?
lol he CONFESSES why he's the "original"
Harley: (after the tape 7 conversation) No luck with Lex 2?
Deadshot: Luthor is dead set on the poser not coming from his Earth. So that leaves 3 options. He doesn't want to share the whole story. Something he didn't know happened behind his back. Or the poser came from somewhere else.
Should’ve just said the white deadshot was a replacement and when he died he stepped back into the mantle
This game could have been a beast…if they not decide to scrap it under SBI. They could have make this game into a heist. Stealth or Loud, king shark be a tanker, while Harley doing AOE with explode grenade, deadshot high damage low health, favor charge shot, Cpt Boomerang can teleport, set trap, etc. but no, they make it openworld shooter that was boring.
I'm going to be honest. And I'm not trying to sound racist or anything.
I feel like the only reason why they decided to make Deadshot black is because they were just trying to copy what the Suicide Squad movie did.
That's literally the only explanation.
So this deadshot got pulled in from another universe then killed the original Arkham deadshot then started having beef with green lantern (also his daughter got pulled in?)
It definitely seems to me that this isn't the Arkhamverse we knew and is instead just a really similar universe that the Arkham Deadshot somehow ended up in.
Both Deadshots are almost identical apart from the skin colour, they have the same blood, finger prints and backstory.
And then there's the part about white Deadshot being holed up in a clocktower with enough ammunition to bring down a small nation, was he aware this universe's Deadshot would come after him since they think alike or was he actually about to have one final shootout with the world after finding himself lost in a place that seems similar to home but doesn't include his daughter.
Interesting theory. As much as I have defended and enjoyed this game, I wouldn’t be mad if it takes place in an alternate Arkhamverse if written properly.
It's not like there's another similiar character to deadshot who enjoy engaging in BLOODSPORT in other suicide squad media
0:30 HILARIOUS 😂
They have the posters of Earth 1 and Earth 2 different Flash’s. I think they’re in a weird amalgam world due to Brainiac’s multiversal meddling.
Did anyone else want a joke in game of someone calling Deadshot Will Smith?!
"Oh my god Its Will Smith!"
Then he goes and slaps a cutout of Chris Rock after an audio log
ide argue the og is the one with the comic accurate lore with his daughter zoe where they had a whole canon movie about his arch getting out of prison to be with her. And the fake deadshot is the one who calls himself deadshot with a pallet swap.
So they implying that Batman never figured out that his deadshot was an impostor?
The headshot in arknight came from another earth which brainiac tested his plan
Another reason would be: "Rocksteady wanted to make similar as possible to the movies".
Yes Luther it's bad writings
I'm all for retcons. I can't help but feel like given the plot of the game this game should've had an Arkham cameo but be set on a different earth than the batman games
So Deadshot in Suicide Squad is from the multiverse and not the original from Arkham City and Etc. that makes perfect sense given the context of this game
No, they just blackwashed Deadshot. It ain't that complicated.