Obsidian - The Power of Backlinks and the Knowledge Graph - Effective Remote Work
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2020
- Obsidian and Roam Research offer a unique toolset to build a knowledge graph. What is it? Why are backlinks so powerful? Should you use it?
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This is great, please do more obsidian workflow, I suspect obsidian to blow up soon once people start googling roam alternatives
That's the plan for now! Is there anything in particular you'd like to see?
Agreed. That entry pricepoint on Roam is kind of ridiculous.
@@KadayiPolokov Exactly. I'm planning on moving most of my notes from onenote to obsidian now. Was going to try out roam, but Obsidian works just as well for the brilliant price of free. The roam price is ridiculous.
Man, I'm literally shaking on the things I can do with this! Solid videos as always!
Thanks a bunch!
Obsidian makes me excited to study. Where have you been all my life.
Right?? I felt the same way about taking notes when I first found Obsidian.
Hey , thanks from all of my heart, I was overwhelmed and you really simplify things, Liked and subbed, looking to see more from you .
So glad! Let us know if there's anything else you're struggling with, too. We're always open to video ideas.
Great video on this filing system! You’re explanation was very clear and concise. Could you make one on the P.A.R.A method?
I’ll add that to my list! Glad you enjoyed the video :)
Awesome!!! Please, keep up the good work on the workflow using Obsidian! Got me thinking about how to create my own slip box zattelkasten notes. Cheers from Brazil.
So glad this was helpful!
Awsome content dude. You just earned a new sub!!
Thanks for the sub!
Rolin Rego I second that!
I just discovered this after searching for Roam alternatives. I'm also using Zettlr and like it too. Two features I'd love to see in Obsidian are Table of Contents navigation (like Zettlr has) and also collapsable headings/bullets like Roam has. I know Obsidian has collapable headings/bullets in editor view, but not in preview, which is frustrating when trying to navigate the note in preview if it's large. I love that both use Markdown and I'm using both Zettlr and Obsidian to edit the same notes until I decide which program I want to stick with.
The neat part is you can continue to use both if you like! The notes apps are mostly compatible which is really nice. Be sure to check out the Obsidian forums and add a feature request there! forum.obsidian.md/
Very helpful to me, ty. New subscription. A couple thoughts as I think I'm coming from the same place a lot of people might which is I basically discovered Obsidian, RemNote and Roam Research all at once. There's so much out there on Roam, it's clear some people see it almost as a lifestyle as a note-taking software.. which is a little weird but I guess that's why I have to pay an outrageous 'Believer' fee to have the security of offline usage that Obsidian offers free. The only other 2 differences I've noticed are block references or insertions, which doesn't mean anything to my workflow as of now and the ability to use it through my iPad browser which is a really big plus. I appreciate that Obsidian is saying App is next, even before Web and I really hope that includes something geared towards the iPad which is my main note-taking hardware. RemNote is impressive too but it's clear they're focusing on students first and foremost. Basically, the security and outrageous value proposition vs Roam is why I think I'll be trying to learn Obsidian. I appreciate more content in that direction!
I think if one is willing to learn how a particular software works, you can do a lot within it’s limitations. We have more Obsidian content planned! Glad you are finding it helpful!
Effective Remote Work well said. At the end of the day it’s about what you’re using the tool to accomplish. Thanks.
Hey! Thanks for the great video! You're making my migration to Obsidian so much easier. :) I subbed too!
Glad I could help!
Thank you for your clarity, Justin. Could you please make a video on creating Zettelkasten notes in Obsidian and introduction to CSS? If possible in the light mode, the dark mode looks cool but doesn't help much when learning. Thank you once again for your awesome work!
I have a Zettelkasten video in the pipeline. The CSS video is a good idea too!
@@EffectiveCo +1 for CSS video
Thank you for the very informative video! I’d like to use Obsidian for managing Bible study notes so that I can use backlink to easily find content that makes reference to a specific Bible verse. But I have not figured out a good way to link to specific Bible verses or a range of verses without creating a note for each verse in the Bible. And since colons are not accepted in note titles, I don’t know how to create a link like [[Gen 1:1]] without changing the standard convention for citing verses. Also, I can’t think of a good way to cite a range of verses and make the range of verses a link. Any advice would be much appreciated!
What I’m doing is copying a verse in from the YouVersion Bible app, wiki linking to the book reference, then trying to link in core concepts either discussed in the verse or in the note I wrote. You might even be able to go as granular as a chapter in Obsidian if you want to create those pages, but verse-level will be tough work to pull off.
i know you want to use standard conventions, but since you can’t use colons, what about periods or hyphens? gen.1.1 or gen 1.1 or gen-1-1 or gen 1-1? visually it’s easy to comprehend, and then it works with tagging and titles and linking. even works with the unix command line? i recently had to find reference similar locations in text, and periods are saving the day :-)
this video is very informative
Glad you found it helpful!!
Hello, what is the name of the theme you use?
Man, I'm literally shocked by the things I can do with this!
Thanks a lot!
It’s so powerful, and gets even more so with time!
Hello, thank you very much for the video. It is really useful. But I don't know if I misconfigured the software because the backlinks don't work for me, I write the double square parentheses and nothing. Help me.
If you type [[ then the name of the note you're searching for you get nothing? I'd recommend posting over on the Obsidian forums for help
Thank you for the tutorial. I followed it, the links are there in several notes however, nothing shows up when I click on unlinked mentions (I'm using Obsidian v0.7.3). Where could I go wrong? Thanks!
Unlinked mentions specifically look for an exact match of the title of the current note in other notes. So if your note title is “Barbecue”, if any other notes refer to barbecue, they’ll show up in the unlinked references. However if your note title is, “Barbecue is really the easiest form of cooking”, you likely won’t have any unlinked references unless you use that specific sentence somewhere else. Does that help?
@@EffectiveCo Thank you.
I can see the backlinks when searching in files and in graph view, but not the backlink pane/toolbar on a specific document/note. Any suggestions?
There are a few things that might be the problem. I'd recommend posting over at forum.obsidian.md -- they'll be able to help sort it out!
Thank you so much, for the explanation, I'm following up with you to build my own notes in Obsidian. I have a question tho, what is the importance of the hashtags?
Tags give you simply another way to categorize your notes. I use them sparingly - mainly just to say what kind of a note they are instead of topics.
Effective Remote Work I got your point :>
Again, thanks for the unconditioned help!
@@EffectiveCo Couple of Q:
Do hashtags work like double brackets, in that they also backlink?
Can you backlink to a group of notes, ie. block reference?
Great video. I've been considering Roam and have been an Evernote (power) user, and a Workflowy (non-power) user, but Obsidian seems to have what I'm looking for, namely, backlinking, and local storage. I'm drawn to this tool, as a better way of consolidating my monkey-mind brain into one place, where I can better focus. Thank you for this!
As a writer and long time user of Scrivener and Evernote I always felt a need for some tool to give me the context i.e. the bigger picture as you called it. The problem I'm stuck with is how to use effectively my archive which is stored in Evernote from Obsidian? I can make links but they open in my browser without the tags and notes that go with them.
I want to use Obsidian for both my writing but also as a tool in educating highschool students. I am a former highschool teacher i social studies. I think they need brain gymnastics as much as they need regular gymnastics. In this case I let them form groups of four or five and tell them to dig deeper into a problem e.g. is climate change real? Then collect the results of the four individuals and build a graphic context that very likely raises more questions and therefore demands more answers hence the frase dig deeper; each answer should raise at least two new questions. Eventually it should help the student not only to think better but also help him or her to gain insight in the way he thinks and how it relates to his believe system.
I'm not sure of the best way to handle the Evernote integration you're looking at (though it seems like it should be possible with app links vs. web links). I love the fact that you're looking at using Obsidian for high school students! It's such a powerful tool for self-driven learning.
What is the name of the soundtrack at 5:10? Is there a Spotify playlist that has soundtracks similar to it?
It was something I pulled from RUclips's cleared track list. No Spotify playlist I'm afraid!
Hello, how to you create the "chips" on main keywords (2minutes)
That's the theme I'm using for this video -- I believe it's Red Graphite (a community theme)
Hi and thanks for a superb video. Could you or anyone else here share a real world (or otherwise) example (or two) of how this process / software can lead / can help lead to something deeper, new or unusual. Or maybe an example of how all of it adds up to something more, something that’s larger than the sum of its parts. Especially when it comes to original self generated content, as opposed to researching other people’s work. I have seen many, many videos on this topic but I am yet to see strong examples. Although, I’m sure they exist. Thanks again.
I think the best case I've had is when I think about something one day and write about it, then think about it another day (unintentionally), I can then link those two occurrences of thought together.
Just remember though that everything is a remix and it's okay to derive from others' thoughts. Very little is truly original.
Effective Remote Work Yes well put. Thanks.
Loving my start with Obsidian, however, a HUGE hole in its ability to capture for me is the lack of an iPhone app for me to quickly jot down notes with. I am not always near my laptop and having to jot down notes in another app and then add them to Obsidian is inefficient.
I recommend Drafts. Great markdown editor plus it has a Mac app (if you use one) to make it easy to copy notes in, or you can set up actions to automatically send notes to your vault. If you need full vault access and sync with Dropbox or iCloud, check out 1writer.
@@EffectiveCo I have and use Drafts. I've not yet set up actions to automatically move my notes to the vault however I can look into that. I would still prefer an app on my phone. Hmm, I will look at 1writer, thanks.
Hey, a mobile app is on the roadmap, but in the meantime, here's some other options: forum.obsidian.md/t/how-do-i-work-with-obsidian-on-mobile/471
Just subbed
Thank you!
Does Roam Research list all the tags and backlinks in one place, like the All Pages?
I’m not sure to be honest. It’s been years since I used Roam. I know this is achievable in Obsidian in a variety of ways.
Do you have a video specifically on graph note taking for books? (fiction / non-fiction )
I do not. There are some discussions on this over on forum.obsidian.md though!
@@EffectiveCo Thanks! I loved your Obsidian videos - very practical and helpful to get me started
Can Obsidian create a page that lists all the link connected to that note? For example, your "wellness" wiki page is blank. You can only see the content in the sidenote (backlinks), and the content is not complete as well. I think it is the deal-breaker for choosing Roam Research over Obsidian.
If what you're asking is full transclusion, no it's not possible yet. The devs are doing a rework of the sidebar so there may be some changes. Roam and Obsidian are similar but very different -- choose whichever works best for you.
@@EffectiveCo I totally agree!! One question: after you link to the page, would you organize those backlinked content like copy those into it (so it will not blank).
Could you make a video teaching how to link certain words with other words or phrases in another note? I don't want to make another note only for the link information. Is this possible? I have tons of notes (over 400) and want to link the words and ideas that are similar, so that I can click the link and it will take me directly to the words in the note that I'm referencing.
Thanks!
I'm not quite sure how to accomplish what you're asking I'm afraid!
which theme are you using?
Red Graphite I believe
can you share the milo link? At least on my description, all i see is, "Obsidian and Roam Research offer a unique toolset to build a knowledge"
forum.obsidian.md/t/lyt-kit-now-downloadable/390
@@EffectiveCo Thanks. One more quick question. I've been playing with obsidian for about 2 weeks. I feel like I have a cursory understanding of some of the functions, but also feel like there's a lot of things I am missing that I don't even know (esp. for academic use). How did you get a good overview knowledge and do you have recommendations btw. "LYT Flight School" or "Obsidian Made Simple" or "skillshare" ? Thanks in advance!
Awesome video. Did you know that when you click on a [[link] it activates it so it's not an orphan? If it doesn't ever get clicked on, it doesn't become a link.
Yes! This is one thing I enjoy about Obsidian. You can create a note, but you don't have to. You can still see the relationships to those notes via the graph even without the note being created.
please share the theme you're working with. the backlinks for some of the current themes kind of confuse me
It's the red graphite theme. You can find it by going to Settings > Community themes and it's in that list.
I wish this can be available in iPadOS :
I agree a full Obsidian client for iPadOS would be *amazing*. 1Writer does a decent job for now though!
@@EffectiveCo For sureeee! thank you for the alternative! I'll check them outtttt
Curious, is there a simple way to upload the content of 1400 .rtf files, spread across about 50 folders, on windows 10 without back and forth copy pasting, to have it all in Obsidian??
Best way is to try to convert the RTF files to MD (a plaintext format), and then you should be able to import all of them into Obsidian quite easily -- just add them to the vault!
@@EffectiveCo would that still have to be one at a time? Copy/paste has seemingly been work, bulk would obviously be best.
Would you recommend obsidian or logseq as a second brain?
Great question. In short, if you prefer bullet points/outlining and a fully open source app - Logseq. If you prefer paragraph-oriented writing, little to no extra markup in the text files, and don’t mind a closed-source solution - Obsidian.
@@EffectiveCo Thanks a lot for the quick reply! I feel like Logseq is a little bit slower and it seems like the graph in obsidian is more powerful. Is this just my impression or do you agree on the graph being more powerful in Obsidian?
What’s the difference between hashtags and back links?
Tagging can group notes together by a shared topic (#NoteApps) where Backlinks can link two notes together that are directly related ([[Zettelkasten Apps]] links to [[Obsidian]])
@@EffectiveCo I see, cool thanks!
@@EffectiveCo Can one and the same label used for a tag and a link? Thank you!
These MOCs are just a way to recreate the same structure which was abolished by moving away from hierarchical folders...
Almost the same thing with hierarchical tags.
Eventually you end up with the same concept, but implemented in a roundabout way...
The problem I have with Obsidian is this.
It isn't the quickest capture device for me when compared to OneNote.
As I watch videos on RUclips I will Copy the link and paste it onto a blank OneNote Page and voilà, the videos is embedded, and the you're video link automatically changes text.
In the case of Obsidian, I create a anew page, then I copy paste the video title, then I copy the Video link, press Ctrl+K and Paste the link.
That there isn't quick. I hope Obsidian finds a way around it.
That's totally fair and probably worth a feature request on forum.obsidian.md!
But in OneNote you also have to find the notebook page and section where you want to place that RUclips video and without additional comments you might not remember its key points, whereas in Obsidian you can just add the key topics that were the reason you saved it and create each of them as a link. Also Obsidian means you keep all your files in easily accessible and transferable form whereas once in OneNote always in OneNote
We're working on a solution for this type of quick capture here: eloquent.works/
Snippets that you can configure to your liking are in the works.
OneNote is a proprietary system (Microsoft, after all). I've used it for years. Now, I am faced with dozens of hours of conversion work to extract MY data from Microsoft's clutches. Once in obsidian the ideas can be linked for synergestic growth.
What theme is this, please?
Red Graphite I believe!
@@EffectiveCo Thanks.
For me it's sad that in my native language i don't have this Unlinked Mentions power. Wellness in Polish is Zdrowie, but can be also: zdrowia, zdrowiu, zdrowiem. Depends on contexts. And obsidian don't see this as a link. Sleep (sen) is even better. I can use: sen, snu, snem, śnić, spać, śpię, śpi, spanie, wyspać, wysypiać and a lot more which is hard to figure out now, but surely I will use them in my notes...
I guess this is one of the benefits (drawbacks) of English -- one word takes on many meanings... it's unfortunate!
@@EffectiveCo after watching one of your videos I'm using aliases now! Thanks!
why would you put music in the background? it is so irritating
cool but all incrediably innefficient like why doesnt it automatically do it seems pretty shit ngl
JUSTIN! THANK YOU THANK YOU for helping me understand and navigate Obsidian. I was really floundering in open water. Your OB vids were the first to ping an “A-ha” moment. I feel massively inspired and confident now. But I have a question: As you are harvesting all this content and cultivating your own ideas off the back of them; at what point do you make that final step; and produce your own completed body of work (Eg: Book, Show, Script, Business, etc)? Is that the beauty of Obsidian; that over time, slowly, it simply happens organically and all you have to do, to put it bluntly, is ‘cut and paste’? Thanx 🥷🏿
You can definitely use notes to create other things. What I find is the highest value for me, though, is using the vault as a place to let my brain make connections, then simply write them down.
Can you give us any more information about that digital index used in the database?
To which digital index are you referring?
@@EffectiveCo The one on the screenshot that's headed 000 Index
Welcome your Index. This is homebase etc... i.e. it's your Map of Contents. Is it proprietary, or based on a standard indexing system?
@@godspelled It's actually an idea from the IMF Toolkit linked in the description -- just a way to give yourself breadcrumbs to navigate between main structure notes in your system.
@@EffectiveCo Thanks!