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  • Опубликовано: 24 июн 2008
  • Very rare vid showing what the opening credits would've looked like using Robert Farnons "big country" style composition as explained by music editor Robert Dearberg.

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  • @shawnfella
    @shawnfella 5 лет назад +32

    The Little Prisoner On The Prairie.

  • @phillyflash43
    @phillyflash43 7 лет назад +53

    I can't stop picturing a cowboy on a galloping horse for that theme, lol...

  • @miliamince
    @miliamince 15 лет назад +14

    In a Lotus 7, you can actually go under those barriers...he was being very polite in taking a ticket considering he was resigning ;)

  • @gomro
    @gomro 12 лет назад +17

    Thanks for posting this bit of alternate history. They couldn't have gotten it any more wrong.

  • @tubian323
    @tubian323 15 лет назад +16

    I agree, it's way more like a western theme than a spy/sci-fi theme.

  • @talkinganimals
    @talkinganimals 14 лет назад +52

    Sounds like the theme for a show where the characters from Dallas perform a corporate merger with the Beverly Hillbillies, who take in the Waltons as boarders, and open a Wild West theme park... all turned into a spoof done by The Young Ones.

    • @jerrykitich3318
      @jerrykitich3318 2 года назад +5

      Get those wagons rolling.

    • @grinsko6741
      @grinsko6741 4 месяца назад +2

      Genius! 🤣

    • @enigmagenesis7341
      @enigmagenesis7341 2 месяца назад +1

      😂

    • @grinsko6741
      @grinsko6741 2 месяца назад

      This is not a number; it’s an abomination.

    • @barbarakirk3064
      @barbarakirk3064 Месяц назад

      That could also tie in with Red Dwarf's Gunmen Of The Apocalypse episode!

  • @macten11
    @macten11 4 года назад +9

    Whew! not dark enough. To lighthearted.

  • @Baelmyrrdn
    @Baelmyrrdn 10 лет назад +92

    Yikes. I'm glad they rejected it! (It sounds like something better suited to Bonanza than The Prisoner)

    • @MKIVWWI
      @MKIVWWI 6 лет назад +7

      Agreed! Number Six joins the Cartrights on the Ponderosa Ranch! lol

    • @littleneutrin0
      @littleneutrin0 4 года назад +7

      Could have used it for Living in Harmony perhaps.

    • @mrrolandlawrence
      @mrrolandlawrence 4 года назад +2

      i would have said more like the saint...

    • @storminboy
      @storminboy Год назад +5

      Agreed. I thought it was the start to The Big Country theme.

  • @ryoushii
    @ryoushii 14 лет назад +7

    I listen to this and expect to see a herd of cattle and cowboys riding the range going hee yah.
    Might have made a good secondary opening for the Harmony episode.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor 7 лет назад +6

    The theme music eventually chosen was by far the right choice.
    This first rejected theme certainly could have been used as incidental music during an episode.

  • @davidcritchley3509
    @davidcritchley3509 6 лет назад +10

    Ride 'em cowboy! The Magnificant One!

  • @EdOscuro
    @EdOscuro 16 лет назад +11

    It would've been hilarious if they used this theme for Living in Harmony.

  • @petermcintyreA1
    @petermcintyreA1 6 лет назад +6

    Thank God they saw sense. The chosen theme was often hummed amongst my class mates at school, as we were so much into the series, at the time.....

  • @christophernuzzi2780
    @christophernuzzi2780 3 года назад +4

    I'm so glad this was changed to the classic Ron Grainer theme!

  • @stu1701E
    @stu1701E 2 года назад +4

    They missed a trick by not using this as the opening theme for "Living in Harmony"

  • @robharding4028
    @robharding4028 Год назад +3

    Excellent choice of music, this is just plain, but the original theme chosen was definitely the right choice.

  • @mariegriffiths2713
    @mariegriffiths2713 3 года назад +4

    I can imagine what McGoohan said when this was presented to him. "At what stage did I say cowboy?"

  • @markgriffiths8786
    @markgriffiths8786 6 лет назад +4

    Never mind Robert , you wrote a great theme for 'Colditz' !

  • @alexrodriguez9441
    @alexrodriguez9441 8 лет назад +36

    That's actually a very enjoyable piece of music... but it's much too optimistic. Glad they changed it.

    • @Roescoe
      @Roescoe 6 лет назад +3

      Heh it sounds like the Thunderbirds with all that percussion.

  • @GeorgiaJen
    @GeorgiaJen 10 лет назад +20

    Too conventional, not sinister or off-beat enough. Totally different vibe. I can see why they rejected it..

  • @chetvaldes
    @chetvaldes 11 лет назад +11

    Funny- at first I hated it, but now I can't get it out of my head! There's something about it's energy that I like.

    • @shitsumeilegumovitch
      @shitsumeilegumovitch Год назад +1

      I agree. It works really well with the quick edits of the opening, much better than what they ended up using.

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 3 месяца назад +2

      It's got a good melodic hook but it definitely sounds hopeful and horsey, not paranoid and modern

  • @dougalmac54
    @dougalmac54 11 лет назад +7

    This village ain't big enough for the both of us, hoss!

  • @EnergyOM
    @EnergyOM 11 лет назад +6

    That theme would have worked for the episode that played in a wild west town.

  • @adminkoff
    @adminkoff 16 лет назад +5

    Fascinating bit of history. Thanks for posting!

  • @MISTERASMODEUS
    @MISTERASMODEUS 5 лет назад +6

    I am so glad this was rejected. It sounds like a 60s western. It also is awkward.

  • @95thFoot
    @95thFoot 5 лет назад +3

    I have to say, this is growing on me. I like it.

  • @i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b
    @i-a-g-r-e-e-----f-----jo--b 16 лет назад +7

    I said to myself thats the music to Big Country! Then the editor said the same thing and I patted myself on the back, lol. Amazing how important a thing like music is to the success of a film, they did a great job with the theme music that was picked, it's awesome!

  • @tjscott395
    @tjscott395 9 лет назад +7

    That would have worked better for Bonanza than The Prisoner.

  • @leelarson6534
    @leelarson6534 8 лет назад +6

    I would have rejected that first theme myself. It belongs with a BBC situation comedy series.

    • @Mishima505
      @Mishima505 4 года назад +3

      Or Carry On Number Six?

    • @barbarakirk3064
      @barbarakirk3064 Месяц назад +1

      @@Mishima505 Number 6 meets The Rumpo Kid in Stodge City!

  • @CaminoAir
    @CaminoAir 7 лет назад +7

    I always tuned into repeats of 'The Prisoner' to hear Grainer's theme. It works as a combination spy theme/surreal, over the top theme that suits the show. The original theme here sounds like a cross between 'The Big Country' and a more conventional 1960's thriller show and the orchestration isn't well chosen.

  • @UNOwen1
    @UNOwen1 12 лет назад +4

    It definitely is 'different' than Ron Grainer's familiar theme. While I don't dislike it ((I DO dislike Wilfred Joseph's), it doesn't fit withe the 'menacing' undercurrent that Grainer's theme has. My favourite version of the Grainer theme has always been the FALLOUT theme, with the horns, which really give a foreboding quality to what had taken place in ONCE UPON A TIME, and, what will happen, in FALLOUT.

  • @gary7vn
    @gary7vn 12 лет назад +3

    Amazing bit of history. The Prisoner was a great great show. The score, as chosen was superb. Thanks for posting this!

  • @lukasdowd
    @lukasdowd 4 года назад +4

    This is good for "The Alamo" not for "The Prisoner"

  • @dannyventure
    @dannyventure 3 года назад +2

    Thank goodness calmer heads prevailed

  • @Romantic_At_Heart
    @Romantic_At_Heart 6 лет назад +2

    So glad they chose the other theme.

  • @SoloPilot6
    @SoloPilot6 16 лет назад +6

    Yee haw! Who is Number One? HOSS CARTWRIGHT!

  • @bpage4132
    @bpage4132 4 месяца назад +2

    I love this alternate theme, and I think this should make this for western movies or TV series like Bonanza, etc. Hi Ho, Number 6!😊😇❤💯

  • @iwasthor
    @iwasthor 11 лет назад +2

    Praise da Lawd it got rejected. That theme music would have done well for the Big Valley which was a 60's western show. I mean I expect the Indians to attack a fort full of soldiers.

  • @johcafra
    @johcafra 6 лет назад +3

    Don't be too harsh with Farnon, a genuinely talented composer and among the very few arrangers Frank Sinatra could work with. Paddy likely didn't give any of the candidate composers much to work with. The choice is always clearer in hindsight. Josephs' theme was (as only a German instructor could say it) "a little too weird," and even Grainer's was redone (search for his "Age of Elegance"). Suffice it to say this show kept a lot of folks guessing...and to its great credit still does!

  • @galinneall
    @galinneall 15 лет назад +3

    It is sooooo 60s! It's exactly what you would expect from a typical second-rate detective/adventure t.v. series, which the composer probably thought he was writing it for. Problem is that the Prisoner wasn't a typical series and couldn't use typical music. "The Age of Elegance" fit perfectly.

  • @inversion66
    @inversion66 10 лет назад +12

    It would have made a good theme for McCloud.

  • @stingray4real
    @stingray4real 8 месяцев назад +1

    It sounded like the film score The Big Country. Thank goodness it was rejected.

  • @pogolswood
    @pogolswood 11 лет назад +2

    Cowboy film theme music definitely. Something the composer had lying around.

  • @captainbedworthy
    @captainbedworthy 9 лет назад +13

    There's a reason it was rejected, it's not nearly as effective as electric guitar, bongo's and horns wound up being.

    • @professor_stevens6784
      @professor_stevens6784 2 года назад +2

      Oh, hey, I never thought about the percussion being bongos, but you're right (or might as well be). Wonder if that kind of arrangement would cross anyone's mind today, or would it all be Hans Zimmer and sweeping synthetic glissandos? (Not that I don't love Hans Zimmer, but I love Ron Grainer too.)

  • @paulhunter123
    @paulhunter123 9 лет назад +39

    epic fail seems more like a western

    • @aardvark280
      @aardvark280 8 лет назад +1

      +paul hunter true... and does not complement the editing of the visuals at all!

    • @MKIVWWI
      @MKIVWWI 6 лет назад +2

      Yep, good song, but horrible match for The Prisoner!

    • @LouisaMusyoka
      @LouisaMusyoka 5 лет назад

      paul hunter

  • @kurtb8474
    @kurtb8474 10 лет назад +11

    It's too light. Or it sounds like it belongs in a western.

  • @toml.1408
    @toml.1408 9 месяцев назад +1

    We are all very lucky that the 1st theme was rejected.

  • @RetroGamebloke
    @RetroGamebloke 5 лет назад +2

    If the Prisoner had used this it would be forgotten. Thankfully, Patrick fought for a better theme, tooth and nail :) Let's face it, he nailed the final version :)

  • @SteveBrant55
    @SteveBrant55 10 месяцев назад +1

    Wow! Who thought this show should sound like a Western during its opening credits? I keep looking for Marshall Matt Dillon to show up!

  • @darren2514fv
    @darren2514fv 10 лет назад +3

    the two rejected themes were used on other ITC shows this one on the Champions for the scenes introducing each of the agents voiced over by David Bauer but this one could still have been used on The Prisoner in the episode A Town Called Harmony

    • @MKIVWWI
      @MKIVWWI 6 лет назад +4

      Didn't David Bauer play "Morton Slumber" of Slumber Mortuary in 1971's "Diamonds are Forever"? Where Bond almost gets burnt to a crisp in the crematorium?

    • @bpage4132
      @bpage4132 Год назад +2

      @@MKIVWWI Yes, he did.

  • @sirjanska9575
    @sirjanska9575 8 лет назад +6

    This music makes me think of cowboys and indians chasing each other in the prairies with lassos and bows.

    • @TheScavenger71
      @TheScavenger71 8 лет назад

      I agree..... it reminds me of the music from the old Marlboro commercials.

  • @erjo8199
    @erjo8199 4 года назад +1

    I instantly thought of the Big Country too

  • @paddy9i99
    @paddy9i99 11 лет назад +2

    Get annnnn yer sports car and ride outta town boy

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Год назад +2

    sounds like the theme to the Western Magnificent Seven

  • @shanewaterman4125
    @shanewaterman4125 4 года назад +1

    Thank God they binned it!

  • @raverdeath100
    @raverdeath100 11 лет назад +1

    " I AM NOT A NUMBER, I AM.... YEEEEHAAAAWWWWW!! "

  • @edwardgrabczewski
    @edwardgrabczewski 2 года назад +1

    Thank god they didn't use this theme. It has echoes of The Magnificent Seven!

  • @abcbatman1966
    @abcbatman1966 10 месяцев назад +1

    This would’ve been a great theme if James Drury had played The Prisoner..

  • @johnwilliams2479
    @johnwilliams2479 3 года назад +1

    First one is like that sound track to The Big Country

  • @gerardphillips7507
    @gerardphillips7507 Месяц назад

    Such a good decision to reject this first introduction!

  • @RammatRamzi
    @RammatRamzi 3 года назад

    If they stuck with that opening thing, we wouldn't be talking about the Prisoner now.

  • @xerxesxylophone7188
    @xerxesxylophone7188 7 лет назад +1

    It sounds like the Big Country!

  • @michaelnorthcote3194
    @michaelnorthcote3194 4 месяца назад +1

    The start is exactly the same as the Big Country theme!

  • @anthonyluisi7096
    @anthonyluisi7096 5 лет назад +1

    Glad it was rejected ... sounds like the sound track to a US WESTERN /Cowboy TV SHOW 😨

  • @rupertchappelle5303
    @rupertchappelle5303 2 месяца назад

    rather light hearted and upbeat, missing horse hooves.

  • @Floorguy1000
    @Floorguy1000 4 года назад

    Omg... we dodged a bullet there! ( by this NOT being the music used.) Thanks for posting.. very interesting.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor 15 лет назад +1

    This was so "wrong".
    The theme they ended up with was the best possible choice.

  • @thatvegasguy
    @thatvegasguy 2 года назад

    I don't think I would have ever watched with this theme.

  • @GPGaal
    @GPGaal 10 лет назад +5

    Yee-haw!

  • @borusa32
    @borusa32 3 года назад +1

    It sounds like the opening to The Big Country

  • @teecee1567
    @teecee1567 3 года назад +1

    That makes me think of a western!

  • @staberind
    @staberind 15 лет назад +1

    Yeeeeeehaw!! ride 'em Pat!
    [ohghodthisisdross]

  • @andrewrooney8264
    @andrewrooney8264 11 лет назад +1

    That theme music would never have worked as a ringtone.

  • @raymondoreilly959
    @raymondoreilly959 4 года назад +2

    reminds me of a westren for some reason .I see Yul Brynner on a back of a horse

  • @belkys120
    @belkys120 8 лет назад

    THE PRISONER :GREAT TV SHOW. SPY VS SPY . AND HOW TO BREAK DOWN A PROFESSIONAL.!!. AND MAKE HIM TALK ABOUT ALL HIS CASES. HE REFUSE TO GIVE IN . AND FIGHTS FOR HIS FREEDOM. !!!!.

  • @jeprice08
    @jeprice08 15 лет назад +1

    I'm going to be quite honest with you and you can ridicule me all you want, but I liked it. I mean the music, the beat and all, but I agree that it wouldn't have worked as the theme song for that show. Neither would the second one work, although it's pretty good too.

  • @stevenn5764
    @stevenn5764 4 года назад +1

    Very Western oriented piece of music - I am so glad they rejected it.. I don't think the show would have had the same feel about it if they hadn't.

  • @LordZontar
    @LordZontar 14 лет назад +2

    "I knew Pat was going to hate it". An understatement.

  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger 3 месяца назад +1

    Too funny. Would be good for a western or a one off action sequence.

  • @barbaras2669
    @barbaras2669 Месяц назад +1

    Oh dear!

  • @OrchestrationOnline
    @OrchestrationOnline 11 лет назад +1

    Rightly rejected.

  • @CarlB_1962
    @CarlB_1962 6 лет назад +2

    Great piece of music, just not right for The Prisoner's main theme. The one they finally chose is perfect for it.

  • @krelbar
    @krelbar 10 лет назад +1

    I kind of like the pause with the drums during the resignation scene...I wonder what affect that would have had using the origina theme? Other than that, I agree with others...the theme doesn't fit at all.

  • @gary7vn
    @gary7vn 12 лет назад +3

    I was shocked to see that you still had your notes, after all these years.
    Did you have any sense of how good the show was going to be?

  • @ajvonline
    @ajvonline 2 месяца назад +1

    ...and then they all realized that 'The Prisoner' isn't a western.

  • @bpage4132
    @bpage4132 4 месяца назад

    Ride `em, Number 6!😊😇💯❤

  • @rendezvouzwithrama
    @rendezvouzwithrama 11 месяцев назад

    Talk about dodging a bullet.

  • @Tony11806
    @Tony11806 2 месяца назад

    I thought it sounded more like a theme for a Western film before he mentioned it at the end of the video.

  • @GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears
    @GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears 3 года назад

    Brilliant Upload! Didn't know ANY of this as a very casual Prisoner fan!
    Thank you.
    This just makes the show distinctly UNMENACING and makes me appreciate Grainer even more if that's possible.
    There is a subversive genius in this version too but it's just not right is it?

  • @SHONNER
    @SHONNER 2 месяца назад

    I can't even watch half of this vid. The music hurts.

  • @kurtb8474
    @kurtb8474 14 лет назад +1

    @enemyofbohemia I agree. I was waiting for John Wayne to come riding down the tunnel on a horse.

  • @migmadmarine
    @migmadmarine 4 года назад +1

    the one they used was much more "mod".😏

  • @davidgo8874
    @davidgo8874 3 года назад

    It's like the opening theme for Dame Edna

  • @bc1969214
    @bc1969214 14 лет назад

    Guess this could have been a one episode use for Living in Harmony.

  • @jefffuller9918
    @jefffuller9918 3 месяца назад

    "YEE HAW" instead of "Be seeing you."

  • @cheesehoven
    @cheesehoven 14 лет назад

    It shows you how important music is. Had that been used, the series would probably have bombed.

  • @vintagethings9187
    @vintagethings9187 2 года назад

    The Big Country on speed! Thank God they didn’t go with it. (Sorry composer!)

  • @kevindouglas8652
    @kevindouglas8652 3 года назад

    Shocking.

  • @thecovidprisoner
    @thecovidprisoner 4 года назад +1

    Rip off 'Big Country' theme what a mistake that would of been. Top guy making sure that was stopped.
    Be seeing you...

  • @StefanTravis
    @StefanTravis 8 лет назад +1

    Painfully Generic Spy Theme, No. 1.