Schoolgirl Murdered By Ex | Real Stories True Crime Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2021
- When a 17-year-old girl was attacked and murdered in her Wiltshire home, her killer was until the day before her boyfriend. Explore what made him turn into a killer.
Ellie Gould was a 17-year-old English sixth form student from Calne, Wiltshire, who was stabbed to death on 3 May 2019 by Thomas Griffiths, a fellow student at her school, who was also 17 at the time. Griffiths stabbed Gould after she ended their relationship of three months.
From Britain's Deadliest Kids Srs 2 Ep 1
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Someone who takes a life should get life.
100% agree..
I wholeheartedly believe that someone who is 100% proven guilty should experience what they did to their victim.
Edit* I am very happy to see that so many people agree with this statement.
I agree if you are 18 or older. If you are under 18 you should never get life.
@@cherryfieldsinc life in prison.
100% agreed !! Period.
12.5 years is a slap in the face to her friends and family.
Wtf is wrong with England
He can be out in 6.25. same happened in our country (slovakia), but murderer was 16yo girl (murdererd boyfriend with knife, about 30 stabs). tried to masked it, and throw it on fictive electricimen (dont know term in english, the man who goes control electricity stuff in flats)
but camera didnt see anyone entered.
she got also 12 years, but can be out in 6 years if good behaviour.
on the other side, drunken women in USA, who killed with car, (accident) , got 50 years. (she is in 30's, so that means basicaly lifetime prison). And some thieves , that stolen 1 milion from state money, got 11 and 12 years in our country. it is sick. They got as murderers, that's sick.
@@warrax111 Electrician.
I'd have no trouble taking the law into my own hands.
@@TheBandit7613 Thank you. Yes, the correct term is electrician.
The second sentance I dont understand how did you meant tha about taking law into own hands?
The electrician didnt exists, the girl used it as excuse, that he attacked them, and killed boyfriend.
I started tearing up when her friend said she sent that text “you’re not dead are you?” I’ve jokingly sent that text before as well. Can’t imagine how she must have felt when she heard the news. Absolutely devastating.
I kno I felt so bad for her cause she you can tell tht she felt so bad about tht but she didn't kno
I've sent that text too. And Ive received it. We never know Nobody is guaranteed tomorrow
@@suekelley2109 very scary
Always look at your last words you tell someone before the see ya/goodbye
She should feel NO GUILT OR SHAME - she couldn't have imagined that something SO HORRIBLE could have happened. My heart goes out to ALL OF ELLIE'S LOVED ONES {FAMILY & FRIENDS}. That boy should get a long prison sentence so he can have time to become ashamed & repentant. He also needs therapy to treat that possessive nature he has that drove him to murder Ellie in cold blood. He should never have freedom until he does not have a possessive bone in his body!! I think because of his age, he didn't understand what he did. He should not even get paroled until he's no longer a risk for being possessive.
As a teenager, my girlfriend broke up with me via text message and I wanted to have a conversation about it. Not even trying to convince her to stay with her, just have a conversation. She agreed to it, but her parents insisted that we would meet at their home while her parents were at home. At the time, I was a bit upset about their parents, because it felt like they were accusing me of being some sort of psycho who would harm their daughter, after hearing about Ellie's tragic story, I feel a lot differently about it.
My post breakup conversation went well and we even managed to stay friends and I certainly did not have any bad intentions, but you never know.
Hey, you're a fine gentleman. I never understood people's psychotic attachments to former partners. Nothing lasts forever. It's heartbreaking sometimes to be parted with someone dear but there are plenty of ways to deal with the grief instead of lingering on it.
EXACTLY
🥰🥰🥰
I thought it'll be ridiculous to break up over phone. It made it difficult that my last 2 ex girlfriends did it every week. It was unstable and even at 25 and 29 respectively, I didn't know how relationships truly worked because it seemed new to me and each relationship was over a year but culturally different. One in Texas and the other in Korea. They were violent and abusive and their behavior was hard to control. I couldn't touch them at all and didn't try. I ended up breaking up both relationships because of the risks.
@@YourXellency that's symptomatic of the modern women. Most cultures are affected. You'd be hard to find anyone who would really commit to a relationship. Us men aren't that good either with that. Well, as long as you can detect red flags and avoid the loonies, all you can do is keep trying.
Kids that make adult decisions deserve adult consequences.
Agreed
Absolutely. Amen.
Absolutely
Absolutely!!!
I wouldn't "Kill a person because she rejected me." not exactly call an "adult decision".
These parents are so brave to speak about this. I don’t think I would be able to do the same.
I guess there are some situations in life that you need to have gone through yourself to fully comprehend their impact! A good friend of mine lost two husbands (accident and heart attack); a nightmare! When I mustered up the courage to talk to her about it, she said "there's nothing else than picking yourself up and to go on, as to having the strength to do it? It doesn't matter if you don't, there's no choice, is there?". That sums it up quite accurately, in my mind.
If you were getting a check for it im sure you would sing about it
I'm only 10 min in right now but i was thinking the exact same thing. They are very strong people but obviously broken
@@miggysalazar9177 it sounds cruel but you ain’t lying 🤷🏻♀️💯
@@miggysalazar9177
You're sick if that's how you think
That guy really took "If I cannot have you, no one else can" to a whole new level. That was so uncalled for she seemed like a sweet girl. RIP to her.
😂
@@CavangoVulgora Funny?
@@KomatsuHB215LC-1 I have things to do. Im super busy !!! 🦦
@@CavangoVulgora troll. someone died n you can still laugh?
"That guy really took "If I cannot have you, no one else can" to a whole new level. "
Literally. It's scary.
Being the father of a daughter, I can't imagine what those parents went through. No parent should endure that. My sincere condolences.
His poise and clarity while recounting finding her body is absolutely insane. My god.
Me too, my little girl is just 4 years old and we are so close. How old is your daughter?
@@BeeRocket2010 40, 42 and 43. Plu 3 granddaughters. Yeah, lots of women. Lol.
@@lenman1114 Oh wow you have created a big family, I'm just at beginning with a 7yr old step daughter and a 4yr old girl and she's mine. My wife is awesome and my best friend, she wants 1 more child but I really don't want to anymore, I'm 40 and feel two kids is enough. I had a hand full of ladies before my wife lol
@@BeeRocket2010
I always say you shouldn't have just one child because you never know
So have at least one more.
12 years, he's got? what an horrifying misjustice for the family
I was shocked how light sentencing is in the UK when I lived there. I mean, c’mon minimum 25 years
I'm sure when he gets out someone will take care of him 😃👌
In Germany it would have been the same or even less. We don't believe in so called "absolute punishment" you practise "relative punishment" which means it's not punishment for the sake of punishment but it has to have a "purpose". Either social rehabilitation or deterrence for either the perpetrator or the public.
In the US he would have gotten more.. Europe sucks with these type of laws
People in the US get more time for smoking weed than brutally killing someone. Absolutely tragic
The parents are sublimely classy, decent, and brave. My heart breaks for them.
Lovely expression. Agreed, terribly heartbreaking.
Sometimes classy means nothing when commonsense produces real insight.
People don't fully mature mentally and psychologically until 23-24 years old. In fact, people under that age were legally and correctly considered children until WWII when the law changed. We needed every able bodied male and 18 year old boys were in body more like men. They couldn't send children to war, so the age that was considered to be an adult was simply lowered to 18 years of age.
@@brookeguenther4909 Are you making excuses for murderers?
@@caroldepp2545 seems like Brooke was EXPLAINING not excusing
I've gotta add - the old dude at the beginning said "This is the tragedy of a young man who wasn't mature enough..." Wow. How about this is the tragedy of a young girl's life being taken by someone she trusted?????
I don't remember the exact words he used but i remember thinking he was off completely i said ''wait what'' to myself. And he is supposed to be a criminologist. They guy was a psychopath obviously how does a criminologist don't know what that entails?
Losing a child takes an extreme toll on a marriage. It appears that Ellie’s parents have beaten the odds. Hopefully they continue to find comfort in each other and stay strong in their love. RIP, Ellie ❤️
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I lost my son 11 years and 4 months ago. It is so true that you never "get over" it. You manage (some days better than others) to get through it. But there is forever a hole in my heart in the shape of my son, that can never be healed or filled with anything else. It is there, every minute of every day.
I'm so sorry u r exactly right my son passed 11-21-06 Noel David Mancilla
My daughter died 3/21/03. 16 yrs old , still hurts today
Dear Ladies, I can’t stop crying, just reading your tragedies… real pain here and I’m feeling just one ounce of your life long pain. Please stay strong. I’m praying for you and your precious families. 🙏
My gma lost 3/4. Two as still borns and one to domestic abuse. She said my mom the domestic abuse one was the worst because she was a bystander and now she has to live with it. But she also said my mom was so under his control if she did something she feared her fleeing the country. So I get her inner struggle in my own beliefs there were many ways to stop it.
God, it's unthinkable. I know the grief must be overwhelming at times, but you don't deserve to be unhappy forever. Please allow yourselves to experience joy every chance you get. Your children would want that.
For a father to find his daughter dead let alone murdered…. Sending so so so much love to the family, friends, school community and the community at large. ❤️
😭😢😭😢😭
😹😹😹😹😹deserved
@@kat-gj8wv ur disgusting to comment that
OK don't think I woulda survived that! But I'm glad they have each other to loose your only child your only baby I ask God to keep them sane and at peace!!
@@kat-gj8wv I hope you can find some counselling to help with developing empathy. And/or assist you in resolving your need to troll on RUclips. It’s not a practice people are actually interested in. 🙏
I love the way when her parents talk about her they both light up, the mom can smile and the father too. This has to be so absolutely so terrible. Waking up everyday and reliving the reality you no longer have the number one thing you love in life. Having to deal with that daily, I cannot imagine. I'm so very sorry to Ellie's parents and friends. She was so absolutely beautiful ❤️.
Only 12 years for murder? That is a horrendous injustice that was done to that beautiful girl. I wonder what that judge will say when he’s let out of jail and then kills again?
I think there were red flags. Tom's possessiveness and talk of marriage pointed to a controlling personality which is a red flag for domestic violence homicide.Regarding premeditation...he tried to cover up his crime by preempting conversation about the defensive scratches on his neck claiming them to be self inflicted.Strangulation is deliberate and takes considerable force and time.This is a dangerous young man.
Absolutely.
He also could have been suffering from severe fear of abandonment. With the recent death of his grandmother, and potential upcoming death of his father, this may have triggered a mental illness, possibly BPD, which brings on EXTREME instability often due to fear of abandonment. Left untreated, patients with BPD have been known to become excessively volatile and often viciously violent when triggered. This, of course, is not the case for all diagnosed with BPD, but these behaviors and actions are well documented within this illness.
He will get out and reoffend. Sickening.
@@cb3514 I’m sorry but that’s a weak argument. I understand your point however borderline personality disorder is not a ‘mental desease’, it’s a personality disorder, the name spells it out. This guy is a full blown sociopath.
@@Dca252 I'm aware it's a cluster b and personality disorder. Regardless it was a potential short term explanation if this came out of nowhere. And your claim of sociopathy has less merit than my SUGGESTION of BPD. Neither have been diagnosed as far as we know, and BOTH are cluster b's that present similarly with traits of narcissism in the forefront. BPD was an off the cuff idea because of all the similar cluster b's, it has specific identifiers that stand out in this case.
That sentence is a disgrace. He changed his clothes, proves it was premeditated. Her family and friends are being made to continue to suffer.
You're correct. This is why so many people take the law in their own hands and exterminate people like him. Yet, they will give you 10-15 years for certain drugs under an once.
I’ve always thought that the UK and Canada and other European countries have relatively light sentences when it comes to murder no .matter how terrible the murders can be
@@cindyreynolds4045 I agree. I think they should be more severe when it comes to murder like the US does
@@masonslie1146 As long as the perpetrator isn't rich in the US. You remember OJ?
@@masonslie1146 agree, however, America is one of the most dangerous countries on the planet, so it isn't working.
The fact I was a troubled teen and KNOW there were many situations I shouldn't have made it out of makes me feel guilty because girls like Ellie always seem to meet the fate that I could have met. Fly high butterfly Ellie ❤️🦋
Same here. The things I’ve done in my youth make me shutter in disgust. There were many times I put myself in situations where if I had worse luck, I’d be killed many times. Dangerous parts of town, dangerous men, rides home from strangers, drinking at clubs and leaving with people I’d just met. Now that I’m a mom, I’d be so upset if my kids did what I did. This case is so sad and my heart goes out to all the victims of horrible tragedies like this. She didn’t even put herself in harm’s way. No one deserves this, but this was majorly unnecessarily unthinkable. He was a trusted friend
@@CJLOVE23 same I'm a mom now too and it's just scary to think I had the best fate than most . Makes you think about somethings
Jas, glad you survived, lifting you up ✊🏾💜🌹
I'm glad you made it out of the situations you were in. Both of you ❤
We do dumb things in our youth. Definitely makes you worry for your children. We can't be present every moment of their lives so all we can do is instill good values and morals, love them, comfort them, listen to them and hope you've done enough of a job to watch them grow into amazing people. I have 3 kids and if they do half the stuff I did in my young years I'd probably never sleep solid ever again!
The memorial her friends and teacher did for her brought me to tears once again. This story made me cry off and on but the memorial really did me in, and I 100% agree that he should have gotten life!
No parent should ever find a child, the way Ellie's dad found her. Heart-wrenching.
The 12 year sentence is yet, another travesty. Guy's a psycho....people, take heed.
I guarantee he’ll get in more trouble in prison and won’t get out in 12 years. And if he actually does, God help anyone who comes across him
I’m quite sure the courts haven’t seen the last of him. He’ll kill again Abc his parents will again defend him for it
Oh he will for sure kill someone else
Seems like a budding serial kiIIer to me
@@abbysheyba8421 I don't feel he fits the profile of a typical serial killer tbh. From all murder stories I've seen, this one seems like an impulse murder, not premeditated. Clearly has a problem with anger.
So sad. This young lady was only 17 and able to recognize a toxic relationship without anyone telling her anything. So many people much older than her would never have been that smart. She no doubt would have been a very bright presence in society.
Her parents raised her amazingly well, that’s why.
i got lucky i survived i was in a abusive toxic relationship
luckily he never became a murder
@@kornbsblinkindazeevanmoomoobp he hasn't become one *yet and you're very lucky and smart for leaving. I know it doesn't feel "brave" but it takes a huge amount of courage, and I think it's something to be proud of yourself for.
😆😆😆
That is what came to mind cause at 24 year I couldn't recognize and thought was love when it was lovebombing. Each day I wish at school we were taught about toxic people. These people can destroy you.
So heartbreaking! Her friends and parents seem like the sweetest people!The calmness and love they show is just so brave. Prayers for all affected by her passing.
The world lost a great future detective and a sweet horse's friend. Not only did he kill her but left her for her poor loving father to find (felt so much). I hope father and her mother for that matter is doing OK. So sorry for your loss. Thank God you had her and got her for so long.
Keep going to his parole hearings and keep fighting for justice. Keep him locked away from other women.
Premeditated murder isn't just killing. It is pure EVIL!
Evil killing definitely
That moment when dad told mom; please drive carefully. What wasn't said but was felt, I couldn't bare to lose you too...
It was so sweet
Impressed by the maturity and eloquence of her friends! That are some wonderfully brought up teenagers.
It’s frightening to think how sick and disturbed this individual really is. His savage obsessive behavior snuffed out the life of a beautiful young lady who didn’t have a chance. God be with her sweet parents.
Such a tragic case. What a pathetic guy the boyfriend was, on top of being a complete psychopath to murder his ex simply because he couldn't handle the rejection of getting dumped. So disgusting. So every time something doesn't go his way he's going to murder the person? Hope he rots in jail and hope he gets a bit of karma from the other inmates there. Rip Ellie.
I like your outfit pup pup :)
@@ashleelarsen5002 hehe thank you
@@SweetTooth8989 I need a dog, do you have a sister?
@@ashleelarsen5002 aw, not available unfortunately. All the brothers and sisters were adopted last year. But the parents might have babies again, but I don't know for sure. It's a friend of mine that has the mom and dad and that I got my dog from.
@@ashleelarsen5002 they've had two litters so far, so you never know, they might have a third some time soon.
I literally burst into tears when Ellie's parents described how they found their beloved daughter lying lifeless.... RIP Ellie
What sound did you make?
@@thelightside77 you fail even trying to troll.
@@ZNOM9 Ok i get it now. You are trying to find all my comments. You missed one.
Me too 😢
Ignore Satan below
I burst into tears when they showed the memorial to her.
My heart aches for her parents and dear friends who loved her so deeply.
It's amazing that men have ever said women are "too emotional" to ever be in positions of power. Imagine throwing the biggest fit ever because someone decides they just want different things than you, then taking their life. I'm convinced men are the overly emotional ones.
Have you seen the Shayna Hubers case?
Who says you have an opinion
Such a beautiful young lady that was robbed of her entire adult life!!!
I wonder if the judge would be so lenient if it had been his daughter who was murdered.
Oh of course not... he would've been sentenced in the same way an adult would've been.
Bingo! I wonder if any judge would be so lenient (and there are many who are way too lenient) if it was THEIR family member - daughter, son, wife, sister, mother, father, etc who was murdered, or brutally attacked and survived? I've often thought these judges should be forced to endure what the families endure, either by forced to spend 2 weeks with the victim's family on the immediate aftermath, or in some way attend grief counseling sessions or something.
Thank you!
@@BeRightBack131 yeah, that’s why we don’t let………sigh…never mind.
They wouldn't even be allowed to judge a personal case
He was such a happy, go-lucky chap with a charming personality and personable demeanor; there was absolutely no indication that anything was wrong. (shows picture of cold, calculating psychopath with dead, farm animal eyes and menacing, permanent scowl)
My heart bleeds for Ellie's family. When he is released after 121/2 years, he will still be young enough to start afresh with a long life ahead of him. This is grossly unfair. I wonder if that high court just would have been satisfied with this sentence if it his own child who had been murdered in that manner. This is very, very cruel and unfair.
It's not fair he went in jail in the first place. He removed her from life probably saving countless men in the process.
@@thelightside77 excuse me sorry what does this even mean..?
@@summerjane9864 Don't waste my time with things you don't care about. You don't care so stop pretending.
I hope that her friends realize that recognizing that something is 'off' about a person is not 'judging,' it's using your sixth sense and it can save your life or the life of your friend. This boy put quite a bit of thought into trying to get away with murdering this young lady, thankfully not enough to get away with it.
There's been so many times I've not listened to that voice inside of myself for my own life....and for what I saw in others' relationshps. I don't ignore any longer. I've also taught my son to listen to it and call it out. The worst thing that is gonna happen (in your friendship) by doing it is that someone is going to be pissed off at you because they are on denial. Okay, may be not the worst. I'm sorry. That's wrong. You can also become a target yourself. That happened to me. But I still didn't change...I still called out the person. Never again will I be silent.
Oh my goodness that’s so true. I tell my grandchildren to always trust their sixth sense.
Right but some of those “people” are not not always killers
@@dominiquexo4772 they may not be killers but they usually give off bad vibes because they're bad company. We're not talking about someone just being shy or awkward, We're talking about red flags
The thing is that if you murder someone close to you or that you've contact with regularly then you'll be one of the main suspects the police will look at if not the the main suspect period,as you should be. Some people don't think about that and then other PATHETIC evil murderers just don't care whatsoever!
Kudos to those girls; to Ellie’s friends. Good for them for taking such a negative, horrible event and doing their best to turn it into a possible positive outcome for any girls in the future. Having self defense classes taught at school is a wonderful idea. That’s such a great initiative that Ellie’s friends thought of. What a great way to honor their friend. And, although a girl so loved could never die in vain, passing on a gift in her name is a beautiful way to make sure that her life will mean as much as it would’ve, had she gotten the chance to live it fully.
Your comment is lovely!
I agree completely! Every person close to Ellie handled this way better than I could imagine and made a bad situation better
They are good friends to have
Indeed.
Even with black belts no girl can beat a grown male
Ellie's friends are truly dear. Her memorial is quite perfect and speaks to her memory so well.
The moment her mom recalled the letter from the student that didn’t know her, tears definitely started to well up hard. Her crying, the kindness of the student, and the genuine effect that this girl had on people; it was all just very emotional…heartbreaking and heartwarming at the same time.
12 years for taking away her entire life? He's young but it was such an awful crime... He'll get to live out most of his adult life.
Ren
12 years- what a F-ing joke.
He should have been jailed for the rest of his rotten life.
Premeditated- from the moment he was rejected.
It basically validates what he did - and he’ll always have the mindset of he can murder and only get a slap on the wrist- death penalty
He should at least serve the amount of years that she lived
12 years is a shame. When he gets out, there will be another victim. He will absolutely kill again
He'll definately kill again
12 years for stabbing someone to death. That’s a slap on the wrist. Where is the justice in that??
Evil as those eyes are, he will be killing again when he's released! Pure evil!
Sadly, I don’t think the family got any justice. 12 years is just degrading imo.
I swear there is one thing the U.S gets correct and it's appropriate sentencing options for murder.
I've seen so many cases in European countries where both youth and adult killers are not even given 25 years. It's so flawed and dangerous that there is little chance of getting "life" for these disturbing crimes.
Liberal governments always sympathize with the criminal, not the innocent victim. Canada is the same.
No justice , you get that for affray , that's pure Evil , & a bullcrap , take a life do a life ,he new what he was doing ,😈 .... Rip Elle🌻
Ellie sounded like a lovely young woman who made lots of peoples lives better, even with a smile. God bless her, the family and her friends 🖤
The memorial is beautiful. A reminder of how people cared for this young woman. Every victim is someone’s loved one.
She was smarter, brighter and more brilliant than him. He knew he'd never be good enough for her so killed her to stop her moving on and being happy. He won't be "better" in 12 years. Her poor parents ❤
Pure narcissist!!!
Yet she chased him and was ecstatic when they got together?
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 And????Why blaming the victim?She was a teen who had been dreaming of being Thomas' girlfriend for a while but without knowing he was a narcissist so obviously when they got together she felt ecstatic but after only 3 months she was clever enough to find out their relation was toxic.
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 Yep the original commenter is purely coping.
@@fine100 pointing out this dude was insecure and unstable isn’t coping…. you sus af
My heart absolutely breaks for Ellie's friends and family. You can hear all the pain in her parents voices when they talk about that day. . .
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Tom has dead eyes. R.I.P Ellie. Sincerest condolences to her family and friends. What a tragic loss of a promising young life.
"I didn't really know Ellie, but whenever she passed me at the corridor she always smiled and I wasn't a confident person but it made my day."
He has a mean case of murderface.... it just oozes creep.
I just heard the sentence of 12 1/2 years and I literally yelled out loud, “WHAT!?!?” That is is SO wrong. Crazy
This beautiful young lady was blessed with an incredibly wonderful group of dedicated friends and family. My heart breaks for them.
That memorial and quote really brought me to tears. Such a bright light snuffed out like that is heartbreaking.
12.5 years?!?!? That’s it??? This poor girl had so much potential and it was taken away so brutally. 💜
There are things we did that when we think of in retrospect, look incredibly stupid. If the killer ex was, say 25, maybe he could have been more emotionally mature and handle things differently. I think its why the judges gave him the benefit of doubt. I've seen terrible kids who turn out to be really good people. But not defending the killer. It was completely uncalled for.
@@hildajuma3236 If we can't bring the victim back than we should not care if he matures or not that is very irrelevant. All of us have been young and rejected yet we did not become killers so we should stop justifying crime.
He'll be out doing it again. He took her life so brutally, a young woman who posed him no risk. But they think he should be allowed to do it again? The U.K. "justice" system just fails and fails and fails.
Looking at that picture of him, he looks very capable of the evil he committed. Just like mom said “spoiled monster.” 12 years? What kind of justice is that? I guess I’m just used to hearing 25 to life.
It's because he wasn't an adult, I know Corrupt America loves to give children life, especially black children.
But in actual civilized countries, children don't get 25 to life.
Luckily, emotional people like you aren't in charge of the justice system.
@@davidrele a psychopath will be let loose on other people, your justice system sucks
@@davidrele It was emotional people ie people with emotions, who put together the justice system, you dork. By the way - “especially black children” - bit overly-emotional of you isn’t it? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@crazycatlady323 About 1% of the population has psychopathy, they aren't all in jail.
So yes, we shouldn't lock up people for being psychopathic, that's not a crime.
And there is no proof this boy is a psychopath, not all murderers are automatically psychopaths.
BTW, I'm not trying to excuse this murderer..
@@crazycatlady323 kinda weird how the us has such an incredibly high murder rate despite the punishment and terrible prisons you have over there, maybe your justice system isn‘t as good as you think lol
Incredibly sad. I feel for Ellie’s parents & friends. Ellie was well loved by everyone & that’s a wonderful legacy for one so young
Ellie and her friends are all so pretty. She should’ve been able to grow up with them and live the life she wanted. 😔
His mother was a special education teacher and not trained in diagnosing sociopaths. RIP Ellie this is all on the sociopath who thought he deserved whatever he wanted.
Yep some are born without a conscience, just as some are born without arms or legs or deformed, these people are missing a chip when it comes to feelings towards others including animals. House pets are usually the first to suffer at the hands of these monsters when they are children and then as they get older it’s people. These people cannot be rehabilitated for there is nothing to rehabilitate
Why would a special Ed teacher be able to diagnose sociopathic behavior? 🤔 not being smart, genuine question
@@ellamayoxoxo9510 basically people would like to blame his parents for raising a crazy kid, but the comment is saying that's not fair because she was just a teacher and shouldn't have been expected to predict this horrible outcome.
@@ellamayoxoxo9510 you're right, they wouldn't. Special education teachers are not psychologists, psychiatrists, nor diagnosticians. We aren't educated and trained to recognize, diagnose and treat mental illnesses. Our education and specialty falls more in line with recognizing and working with students who have neurological conditions and/or learning difficulties/discrepancies.
@@Somegirl811 agree! No one could have predicted this outcome.
What an absolute shame such a beautiful young life lost. A message to all women. If a guy is possessive it's a major red flag. It may not lead to this outcome but possessiveness will NEVER lead to a healthy relationship. Condolences to friends & family R.I.P 🙏 x
Ellie recognised a toxic relationship early at the age of 17, she would have become a beautiful strong lady.
So true 💔
So true, please get out when they start trying to tell you what to do or manipulate you….
She broke up with him almost as soon as she saw it. I don’t know what she could have done differently.
@@TangledTrueCrime I don’t think they are trying to say she could have prevented it had she got out earlier, more just trying to warn those that see the signs and ignore what their instincts might be telling them. What I mean is I don’t think the comment was criticism of Ellie at all, which is how I am guessing you might have interpreted it. It’s just tragic :(
From how her family and friends described her, you can tell what an easygoing, happy and cheerful girl Ellie was and everywhere she go it's just gonna be positive vibes all around. Losing someone who bring so much joy in your life, I can't imagine the pain. When her mom said you wake up and that's the first thing you think of, carrying the pain throughout the day. That breaks my heart.
A huge thank you to these parents for sharing their painful story so other parents can be aware of their children’s friends. There are monsters out there. This story will help a lot of people. My heart is sore for this family.
Really hope her parents can stay together! Too many people that lose kids break up when they should be each other’s strength. That boy should get life!!
Agree!!!!
Nope. Death within no more than two years be executed. All appeals denied. Swift Justice.
What a stupid comment.
@@AnneOhn123 why?
That's exactly what I am fearing. Too often when children are lost, the grief and despair is so overwhelming that the parents are unable to comfort and help each other, with each parent turning inward,. Over the years, the loneliness and solitude turns the marriage turns into an empty shell, and divorce follows. And in this case the final tragedy was that, I believe, she was their only child. So that glue of other children is not there. Let's hope they beat the statistics.
So the teen who first planned it, then went and murdered his girlfriend, then mutilated her dead body and then tried to cover it up will be released from prison before he is even thirty years old. In that case, let us all hope against our better judgement that he has had a proper therapy and grown mature in there, and that he will proceed to live a peaceful life from then on. Otherwise, the system will have unleashed a very angry, revengeful monster on that traumatized community.
God almighty...
There is no rehabbing a psychopath, he is missing the part of the brain which houses empathy and sympathy for other human beings. He is dangerous and WILL do this again one day when someone doesn’t give him what he wants or gets in his way. Damn shame European courts can give someone such a light sentence for murder, more like the kind of sentence you would get for drug charges.
I agree. No rehabilitation for an evil demon like that
I feel worried for the women this monster will meet. They are potential victims😔
Degrees, being a prefect, sportsmen, awards received, academic scores and financial status should never be an indicator of "innocence". It has been proven many times that ANY person of ANY social or financial standing could be a killer. This is a great profile actually as the fact that he obtained prestige in sports and academics made him entitled.
So very happy to see you are feeling better. Excited to study this chapter. God bless you and Luis and the kids
He looks cold and remorseless. He was obviously not accustomed to being told “no”. I partially blame his parents for that. He should be in jail for the rest of his natural life.
Why should we the taxpayer support this pos after he took a life..his life should end immediately, his parents should pay all expenses for the young ladies burial expenses too. Poor poor parenting..my condolences to the girls parents and family.
Most kids today are not being told no at home. I rarely see it. Parents are desperate for to be the children’s friends vs actual parenting.
@@RC-iq2hh I have 3 kids. My kids get told no often but I usually explain why (when they can reason) and they understand. Being strict and not allowing kids to feel heard can also cause these issues because kids rebel.
@@joanna0988 that’s fine and well but the fact of the matter are children are overly coddled these days. This is the reason this young man could not take even basic rejection . Most people raised well know better. I am sure this was not the first time this boy exhibited angry behavior when he didn’t get his way. I noticed his parents /family are nowhere to be found on this doc.
@@RC-iq2hh Young men not taking rejection well is not new at all. My generation was hit and disciplined constantly and I've had many experiences with men becoming abusive when I turn them down or broke up with them. Thankfully I've been with my husband for 17 years but one of my daughter's is almost at a dating age and the boys seem calmer nowadays.
Her mother and father tore my heart out while recounting that day. God be with them.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING. ONE OF THE MOST HEART BROKEN STORIES. I FEEL HER PARENTS PAIN. 😢 SO VERY SORRY.
When her friend talks about the memorial foal lying in the flowers I absolutely lost it. My heart breaks for her parents and friends. What a waste of such a beautiful life .
So very sad, Its everyones worst nightmare to find someone you love harmed or murdered. My heart goes out to Ellies parents especially her father. That very disturbed boy has ruined so many lives, not just his own. I was more shocked that he only received a twelve and a half year sentence, no justice at all.
I just can't imagine the pain of the parents I feel sorry for the parents
@@jackdennis3626 ßli
They are old enough to know what they are doing, disturbed or not. Life for life, they should be executed. It may serve to discourage others from doing the same .
@@pjay951
Publicly executed.
How about at the matches of lower division football teams.
That would boost the crowds.
Life- for taking a Life- is the only correct sentence.
@@pjay951 .. I agree 💯% … western judicial system is too soft… it needs to “ toughen up”. You can get put away in jail 7-14 years in Australia … in some states if you own a toy gun! 12 years for murder is a vulgar insult to Ellie’s parents- disgraceful sentence!🤬😡
This is beyond sad. But I disagree that kids are the most innocent members of our society. No, they are brutally honest about what they want, and will do it.
I once read a bibliography that said "The notion of innocence refers to a children's simplicity, their lack of knowledge, and their purity not yet spoiled by mundane affairs."
I agree, children will lie, bully, steal, hurt and murder.
@@LilDitBit For me personally, I don't consider these age range as kids. For me I consider people 12 or under, kids. The above 12, I consider them teens, and adults when someone completes university at around 21-22.
@@1mol831 and I agree. My point was that children in primary school, the 7yr range definitely occasionally lie, hurt, thieve and bully. And less occasionally they murder. So saying someone is innocent based on age is twaddle. And if you are a teen, society might be less lenient because they are not very young.
The human conscience is not fully developed until 19, so if you are not raised with a moral backbone and of consequences, they can and will do anything.
seems like Ellie was surrounded by beautiful, loving, and caring people. My heart hurts for them.
This is dreadful, so sad and made me tear up. As a father i could not imagine going through this. You are both so brave to share this. Thank you.
Her parents are handling their grief amazingly. The integrity they carry themselves with is beyond my understanding.
At the same time it doesn’t seem like the boys mother could be held responsible for what he did. Even if she worked with troubled kids, he wasn’t showing homicidal red flags. Plus, at the time her family was in turmoil, her husband was going through chemo and she’s raising a teenage son.
Mr. & Mrs. Gould & Ellie's friends seem incredibly strong and are a living testament to a young lady whose life was too short, yet beautiful and bright enough to make such a positive impact on them. The immense tragedy lies in the unfulfilled potential. Blessings & love to all who suffered and will continue to learn how to live with the pain.
What a beautiful memorial. I was able to hold back my tears until I saw that foal and heard the words engraved on it.
I was gonna close out of this video but your intro was so captivating !! Well done
This guy is so sick to ruin two families. Take that poor girl’s life away like that. Her poor parents I can’t imagine.
Well, listen. My step-dad is a psychotherapist who missed the signs, a few times, that my mom was dissociating. Have you ever heard ‘doctors make the worst patients’? Someone can completely miss what they look for everyday in their own family members. It’s a perspective thing, they are too close too see the signs, or changes. It happens more often than you think, unfortunately. So don’t blame his mom too harshly.
I don't blame the mom at all, Like one guy said, with his athletisim he probably learned how to hide emotions. I blame him not his mother
Yeah my mom has a PhD in Psychology and never figured out that I am autistic and have ADHD.
Absolutely agree 👍 I was going to write the same thing.
A lot of people seem to always blame the parents. In a lot of cases it may be true but it's not an absolute. Bad kids do happen to loving caring parents.
Ted Bundy one of the worlds most infamous killers for one. There is no evidence he had a bad home life or anything other than a "normal" childhood.
At 18, he got 12 yrs, IF he serves all 12 he'll be out at 30, still, lots of time to get married have kids, and still have a great life, Justice is truly blind. Prayers for her family.
Imagine the pain the parents must feel.. Heartbreaking 💔
Such a tragedy
His eyes says it all. How lovely and sweet she was. How brave her family and friends are. So lovely of her friends and teacher to create that tombstone and self defense course in her memory. May they all find peace and healing. 😞🙏
As a mother of two daughters this is extremely disturbing. The poor parents and her darling friends . 😥
12 years? Atrocious !! He should have gotten life, and no parole.
Agreed.
I got out of a relationship when I was 19 and pregnant. The father was emotionally abusive as well as possessive. When I ended it my parents and his parents took his side so I didn’t really have anyone to turn to but being so young and expecting a baby I just knew in my gut if I don’t end it something bad would happen to me. Everyone around me is still pissed at my decision.
Forget everyone especially your jackass of en ex and your crappy parents,I also hope you and your baby are thriving healthy and happily you made the right decision to leave.
Girl I’m proud of you for leaving an abusive man! He could have hurt your child. Thank you for being strong and leaving and not staying with a loser like that. You and your child deserve better
Good on you for getting away and obeying your gut. So, so, so many people don't and it costs them dearly. Intuition is really your subconscious adding things up that aren't right. It's noting those red flags that your conscious mind might ignore or downplay.
You're a smart woman. Good luck to you.
RIP Ellie🙌🤘🙌 What an incredibly well put together story. Bravo 👏.
Everybody involved in this really brought her out in the best way, I am just a true crime nerd but this one really hits the heart.
I wish her family and friends the best, the memorial is quite possible the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.
Parents are just unimaginably brave beyond words. I couldn't ever imagine i couldn't fathom.
I’m just sick for her parents. Damn, no words 😶😢💔🙏🏼
6:27 The mother's face starts happy because of happy memories, and ends sad because she knows that its the only memories she will ever have.
Such sweet friends - sounds like Ellie touched the lives of everyone she encountered. My heart truly goes out to her parents.
Parents MUST teach their sons, from a very young age, that rejection is a part of life; specifically they aren’t entitled to someone’s affections.
Ah………we…..oh never mind. Forget it.
Teach girls too
Yes!
Reminds me of Elliot Rodgers and other incel killers. The sense of entitlement to women bc they are ‘nice guys’
THANK YOU
I don’t know what kind of a person the mother of the murderer is, but if she is a normal mother who tried her best with her child, imagine the situation she must be in now. Lost a child and blamed for not preventing the murder, together with the situation she was already in.
Naturally, I don’t want to downplay the situation of the victims, the pain they must be in is unimaginable to me.
he was 17, at that age people drive so they can understand right from wrong i don't understand people who blame the parent
Yes , but her son is warm and breathing, she can visit him and help plan his future on release from prison. Which will be before his 30th birthday. I spare my sympathy for the victim's mother.
I agree 100% you can't control your childrens actions after the teen years. They keep things from you. You don't know everything they are doing. They only tell you what they want you to know. I have 2 sons 1 22 years old and 1 18 years old. I have done everything I can to insure they are good young men. I would be heart broken if they do anything like this. You can only prey you are never in a situation like this one.
I agree I bet both families are really stressed and sad
@@marthienel2190 if you are only capable of limited sympathy, that isn’t something I would brag about.
her parents are so sweet and loving ....you can only imagine what a child they raised...so sad for them .
She sounded like a wonderful girl and what wonderful friend she has
I’m not a mother, but I just can’t imagine what parents go through, the deep pain of losing a child. Especially in such a brutal, horrific way!
Why are there such evil people in this world?
My heart goes out to Ellie’s parents. ❤️ 😢
Somehow he was raised to feel ENTITLED. I agree with you 100%. I'm not a parent either but I try to have real empathy and sympathy for all who suffer unjustly.
Remember her friends too. They grieve that loss too.
such lovely girls, all of them. As mum to a teen I can't even think about the possibility of losing my girl to a psycho that was even inside my home, as her boyfriend, somebody that has being treated well.
I dont know how the parents kept their cool. I woulda been going apeshit crazy
My heart goes to the family and friends. I can't imagine how hard it is for the people that lost ellie.
Lots of murderers are not shy or reserved they should stop stigmatizing being a quiet person as a sign
Such a beautiful beautiful girl ❤️ my heart breaks for her family and friends 😢💔🙏
You right...my too:(
A memorable moment that won’t be forgotten in heart.
My admiration and total respect to the parents of Ellie, how dignified and in control of their emotions they are.
i love the parents.. to speak bout this💯