Everything you say here is gold, sir! Learned French by listening and reading and repeating out loud the series Champs Elysées (French current events covering all aspects of society, with transcripts and helpful notes). EVERYBODY, including my instructors, tried to tell me it was too advanced for me. But I just kept at it, one sentence at a time. Short clips of interesting content with repetition, reading while listening, and speaking (which seriously helped my accent; I'm American, now living in France, and people often ask me if I'm from Belgium or Switzerland). Still took time, but it was fun time.
@@Ded_Silu Started when I was 25, in the Army. My operational area was West Africa. I hated using interpreters to understand and be understood, so was pretty motivated. Moved to France a couple years after retiring from the Army. Age 40 at the time.
Salut ! Est-ce que vous pouvez me dire où je peux trouver le série Champs Élysées qui vous avez mentionné ? J’apprends le français aussi. Je suis brésilienne. Merci d’avance !
When I began to watch your videos, I was beginner in Finnish, my level was like A1.1. Now I’m in B1.2 and your tips were so useful for me! Thank you, Steve & greetings from Russia!
By reading a lot you experience the things you’ve learned again and again in different settings and you are exposed to new words and phrases.This deepens your understanding and increases your ability to use the language, It boosts your confidence and helps develop fluency
When I was little, my grandfather would always have me start learning a new language by giving me a periodic table or some of his favorite books in that language. It was a lot of fun, but now I start by listening to/reading more varied content so that I develop a broader vocabulary more quickly.
If you have the money, and not to disuade you from following Steve's admonishments ( Because, I too, would recommend Assimil/Linguaphone/TeachYourself), but the best learning template I have found, that is also co-opted by other polygots (Moses McCormick + Ikena), begins w/ Pimsleur, then moves to Glossika. The spaced-repition/graduated-interval recall systems employed in both, collectively, embed the foundational verbs into your long-term memory through active recall and audio-conversational usage exercises!
I think learning many languages influnce the prounciation of the mother language because i usually switch on english subtitles on youtube during watching video in english, Now when i watching this video with english subtitles i found out youtube subtitles did many wrongs subtitles.. sorry my english not so good but i hope tou got the idea
I have French to a good B2 level, and I regularly listen to podcasts to improve my knowledge of the language. I started German 5 months ago, using Babbel which I like a lot. I guess it is like your book approach. I am on the B2 course, but my ability is nowhere near that, maybe A2. But it is introducing me to the concepts of the language and giving me some vocabulary. What I really need is huge amounts of practice at the basics, so they become automatic. At the moment I am very slow at reading and writing. I will try LingQ to see if it provides that need. I found for French that I preferred to listen to podcasts. I did not like LingQ. Instead I listen to them repeatedly, write down vocabulary and add it to Anki. That may be because my aural French comprehension is very good, albeit requiring lots of work to acquire vocabulary.
Some materials I make my own comprehensible input. I am currently learning Brazilian portugues and Swahili. I use to memorize a lot of material, not anymore. I am doing more reading out loud, listening, repeating and shadowing.
I find reading and listening at the same time is very distracting. I can't even do it in my native language. When i'm concentrating on the words my mind switches off to the listening and visa versa. Did you ever say or ask something to someone who is in deep concentrated reading ? sometimes they don't even hear you, even if you asked them twice..they look up and say,sorry,I didn't hear what you said,I was concentrating on the article. I retain more when silently reading.Krashen advocated silent reading too. This happens with subtitles too.I can't read and listen.I miss things that the actor said and have to stop and rewind it.
I wish that streaming services (Netflix), would have the audio and the subtiltes match. English is the only one that has the “closed caption”. If I try french, I can change the audio but the french subtitles do not match. I know it may have been provided by different companies, but it would be a game changer if all audio languages had the exact match in the subtitles version.
I have a new theory based on social patterns I'm seeing in language learning because most language learners seem to still quit. I think most advice from the online language learning community, although coming from many successful polyglots, is wrong for beginners, because it creates extreme social pressure to take on a mental load of learning that is too much for the average person, it stresses them too much, and they quit. It's not that reading isn't powerful, it's that it might not be the best approach for the average beginner because it creates too much mental load or content which raises their stress levels, and it might be a desire, but it's not what they desire most. So something is wrong because most people seem to be quitting or feeling long-term unsatisfaction with their progress, and I think it's because the majority of people care a little more about speaking and listening than reading, writing, or grammar, because it gives them a deeper and more intense sense of social connection, which goes along with the conclusions of The Harvard Grant Study: that positive social connection benefits wellbeing and meaning in life. If this is correct, I think that majority of beginners need media they find novel in the target language and combine it with SRS common word memorization in whatever SRS method they want to use or create, preferably in characters or letters they understand, learn other things about the language when they want to, and if they want deeper fluency, pursue that after they have a command of common words and phrases. In this method, their mental load and stress stays low, they are being persistently rewarded because of that, and they are less likely to quit. The majority of beginner language learners seem to not be using this method and are also quitting, and I think there might be a correlation.
I think most learners quit partly because they can’t commit the time and effort to the language, but also because adults don’t cope well with failure. Language learning takes a lot of hard work. And it involves failure. I continually screw up, I make mistakes, I forget something I thought I had learnt, or I struggle to understand a new podcast. I suspect many people see the mistakes as an indicstion of failure, rwther than the normal learning process.
Regarding LingQ, overall you probably shouldn't worry much about this, but to me LingQ discourages rereading/relistening to things in a way. To keep your daily streak alive you need to add more LingQs everyday and so if I was starting a language I would feel like I never want to reread because I want to see that LingQ number go higher. I think it's great to have a meter that tracks known words and LingQs but maybe the daily streak should be track with amount of words read instead of LingQs so that people can feel like they can freely reread things more.
This is nice, but this is impossible with the language I need to learn. There are no books, no literature, nothing to listen to. Waray Wary is the 5th most spoken language in the Philippines among dozens of languages. It is not taught in schools. There are no textbooks or dictionaries or books translated into Waray Waray. This is my wife's language and I have to learn it. Everyone here speaks it all the time. Most are also fluent in English, Tagalog, and Cebuano. When they write it in Face Book or speak it, they abbreviate and use shortcuts. There are multiple dialects of Waray Waray also.
You could try to worry about speaking and hold off on writing, since that's the primary way you communicate with your wife, which appears to be your main motivation. And you could try to have your wife help you find common words for things, use some form of SRS to get them in memory, which can be as simple as writing down the word and its meaning and looking at it in spaced out different times until it is memorized. Getting down enough common words and phrases could be a good start.
@@ClassPunkOnRumbleAndSubstack Thanks! I have done some of this. I have a spread sheet with dozens of words and phrases. But, I can't seem to recall them. Maybe because I'm old. I never had this much trouble remembering things before. I'll return to my spread sheet and see if I can concentrate on a few phrases and then just keep using those.
This is a bit late but he is speaking very deliberate and clear. I think most people would not be quite as careful to enunciate. He also has a pretty strong Canadian accent. I live in the southern US and people here talk slower in general and draw out their syllables a bit more, but also tend to drop the endings of words more often. Especially anything ending in -ing.
Everything you say here is gold, sir! Learned French by listening and reading and repeating out loud the series Champs Elysées (French current events covering all aspects of society, with transcripts and helpful notes). EVERYBODY, including my instructors, tried to tell me it was too advanced for me. But I just kept at it, one sentence at a time. Short clips of interesting content with repetition, reading while listening, and speaking (which seriously helped my accent; I'm American, now living in France, and people often ask me if I'm from Belgium or Switzerland). Still took time, but it was fun time.
@New Apollo 🤣🤣🤣 Neh; apparently just you!
When did you begin learning French, and after how much time after that did you move to France?
@@Ded_Silu Started when I was 25, in the Army. My operational area was West Africa. I hated using interpreters to understand and be understood, so was pretty motivated. Moved to France a couple years after retiring from the Army. Age 40 at the time.
@New Apollo I care.
Salut ! Est-ce que vous pouvez me dire où je peux trouver le série Champs Élysées qui vous avez mentionné ? J’apprends le français aussi. Je suis brésilienne. Merci d’avance !
When I began to watch your videos, I was beginner in Finnish, my level was like A1.1. Now I’m in B1.2 and your tips were so useful for me! Thank you, Steve & greetings from Russia!
Hienoa! Näin se homma etenee👍👏
How long did it take you? :O
By reading a lot you experience the things you’ve learned again and again in different settings and you are exposed to new words and phrases.This deepens your understanding and increases your ability to use the language, It boosts your confidence and helps develop fluency
Now this is quality content right here
When I was little, my grandfather would always have me start learning a new language by giving me a periodic table or some of his favorite books in that language. It was a lot of fun, but now I start by listening to/reading more varied content so that I develop a broader vocabulary more quickly.
If you have the money, and not to disuade you from following Steve's admonishments ( Because, I too, would recommend Assimil/Linguaphone/TeachYourself), but the best learning template I have found, that is also co-opted by other polygots (Moses McCormick + Ikena), begins w/ Pimsleur, then moves to Glossika. The spaced-repition/graduated-interval recall systems employed in both, collectively, embed the foundational verbs into your long-term memory through active recall and audio-conversational usage exercises!
I think learning many languages influnce the prounciation of the mother language because i usually switch on english subtitles on youtube during watching video in english, Now when i watching this video with english subtitles i found out youtube subtitles did many wrongs subtitles.. sorry my english not so good but i hope tou got the idea
I have French to a good B2 level, and I regularly listen to podcasts to improve my knowledge of the language. I started German 5 months ago, using Babbel which I like a lot. I guess it is like your book approach. I am on the B2 course, but my ability is nowhere near that, maybe A2. But it is introducing me to the concepts of the language and giving me some vocabulary. What I really need is huge amounts of practice at the basics, so they become automatic. At the moment I am very slow at reading and writing. I will try LingQ to see if it provides that need. I found for French that I preferred to listen to podcasts. I did not like LingQ. Instead I listen to them repeatedly, write down vocabulary and add it to Anki. That may be because my aural French comprehension is very good, albeit requiring lots of work to acquire vocabulary.
Some materials I make my own comprehensible input. I am currently learning Brazilian portugues and Swahili. I use to memorize a lot of material, not anymore. I am doing more reading out loud, listening, repeating and shadowing.
@New Apollo their english is good, wtf is ur problem??
@New Apollo why r u going around spreading hate?
@@katt14325 DON'T FEED the TROLL!
I find reading and listening at the same time is very distracting.
I can't even do it in my native language. When i'm concentrating on the words my mind switches off to the listening and visa versa.
Did you ever say or ask something to someone who is in deep concentrated reading ? sometimes they don't even hear you, even if you asked them twice..they look up and say,sorry,I didn't hear what you said,I was concentrating on the article.
I retain more when silently reading.Krashen advocated silent reading too.
This happens with subtitles too.I can't read and listen.I miss things that the actor said and have to stop and rewind it.
Useful information thanks
I wish that streaming services (Netflix), would have the audio and the subtiltes match. English is the only one that has the “closed caption”. If I try french, I can change the audio but the french subtitles do not match. I know it may have been provided by different companies, but it would be a game changer if all audio languages had the exact match in the subtitles version.
I have a new theory based on social patterns I'm seeing in language learning because most language learners seem to still quit. I think most advice from the online language learning community, although coming from many successful polyglots, is wrong for beginners, because it creates extreme social pressure to take on a mental load of learning that is too much for the average person, it stresses them too much, and they quit. It's not that reading isn't powerful, it's that it might not be the best approach for the average beginner because it creates too much mental load or content which raises their stress levels, and it might be a desire, but it's not what they desire most.
So something is wrong because most people seem to be quitting or feeling long-term unsatisfaction with their progress, and I think it's because the majority of people care a little more about speaking and listening than reading, writing, or grammar, because it gives them a deeper and more intense sense of social connection, which goes along with the conclusions of The Harvard Grant Study: that positive social connection benefits wellbeing and meaning in life.
If this is correct, I think that majority of beginners need media they find novel in the target language and combine it with SRS common word memorization in whatever SRS method they want to use or create, preferably in characters or letters they understand, learn other things about the language when they want to, and if they want deeper fluency, pursue that after they have a command of common words and phrases. In this method, their mental load and stress stays low, they are being persistently rewarded because of that, and they are less likely to quit. The majority of beginner language learners seem to not be using this method and are also quitting, and I think there might be a correlation.
I think most learners quit partly because they can’t commit the time and effort to the language, but also because adults don’t cope well with failure. Language learning takes a lot of hard work. And it involves failure. I continually screw up, I make mistakes, I forget something I thought I had learnt, or I struggle to understand a new podcast. I suspect many people see the mistakes as an indicstion of failure, rwther than the normal learning process.
Thanks Steve Kaufman for this content
I like your approach to learning a new language! any chance LingQ will offer a Persian course in the near future? would highly appreciate it = )
We have Persian at LingQ, lots of good stuff. that's where I have been learning Persian.
Starter book... hmm yeah. I agree with this. 早速ハンガリー語の本買いに行くぜっ！
Let’s go, Steve!
I didn’t know that you live in Vancouver till now~
Well say bravo
Regarding LingQ, overall you probably shouldn't worry much about this, but to me LingQ discourages rereading/relistening to things in a way. To keep your daily streak alive you need to add more LingQs everyday and so if I was starting a language I would feel like I never want to reread because I want to see that LingQ number go higher. I think it's great to have a meter that tracks known words and LingQs but maybe the daily streak should be track with amount of words read instead of LingQs so that people can feel like they can freely reread things more.
I'm late hahah, listen and read a book i think is the power of you when you learn a second languanges is it true mr. Steve?😊
This is nice, but this is impossible with the language I need to learn. There are no books, no literature, nothing to listen to. Waray Wary is the 5th most spoken language in the Philippines among dozens of languages. It is not taught in schools. There are no textbooks or dictionaries or books translated into Waray Waray. This is my wife's language and I have to learn it. Everyone here speaks it all the time. Most are also fluent in English, Tagalog, and Cebuano. When they write it in Face Book or speak it, they abbreviate and use shortcuts. There are multiple dialects of Waray Waray also.
You could try to worry about speaking and hold off on writing, since that's the primary way you communicate with your wife, which appears to be your main motivation. And you could try to have your wife help you find common words for things, use some form of SRS to get them in memory, which can be as simple as writing down the word and its meaning and looking at it in spaced out different times until it is memorized. Getting down enough common words and phrases could be a good start.
@@ClassPunkOnRumbleAndSubstack Thanks! I have done some of this. I have a spread sheet with dozens of words and phrases. But, I can't seem to recall them. Maybe because I'm old. I never had this much trouble remembering things before. I'll return to my spread sheet and see if I can concentrate on a few phrases and then just keep using those.
I'm interested in starting German soon... any good resources like this?
Check out the "Natürlich German" RUclips channel!
How do you use LingQ? I find it kind of confusing
Cool hacks 👍 🇮🇳
U guys who r native english speakers, he talks like a normal people or most of u guys are not that clear?
This is a bit late but he is speaking very deliberate and clear. I think most people would not be quite as careful to enunciate. He also has a pretty strong Canadian accent. I live in the southern US and people here talk slower in general and draw out their syllables a bit more, but also tend to drop the endings of words more often. Especially anything ending in -ing.
Ты дед
Вас дед?
the captions are in viatnamese hahah