Chris Harris on Cars | Mercedes C63 AMG Bi-Turbo Road & Track test.
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- The all-new C63 loses the classic 6.2 litre atmospheric V8 for a smaller-capacity turbo motor. Can it be as good? If you'd like to make a donation on Patreon to fund more videos, please do! www.patreon.com/user?u=401656
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Best car channel on youtube
By a mile!!
Chris was the only reason Drive was worth watching. Period.
yeah, better than everything.
Definitely, but due enjoy watching Motortrend.
*****
the channel is new give him time ,and at least it's free and not 3 minutes content.
Chris Harris produces extremely high quality and factual reviews highlighting nearly every aspect of the car in 20 minutes, and we get the viewing pleasure of power slides on a track. What are Top Gear doing? A 20 minute video of used Peugeots bumbling around like idiots. Don't get me wrong I love Top Gear as much as the next guy, but why does it take them over a year to produce a new series and Chris is banging out fantastic videos on a regular basis? Chris Harris > Top Gear
I love Top Gear as well but it costs well over $15 million an episode since it's so big. Like you I was been disappointed with the Peugeot episode, even more so the tease with the big three hypercar's in studio and no track times.
CHoC = Petrol head car channel. Top gear = Entertainment show that happens to feature nice cars. I like them both.
Good point.
I really love Top Gear as well but i agree with you, the work they have been doing is disapointing, i mean that cover they did with the La Ferrari for exemple, was just pittyful you can see that there is a lot of montage and lots of shakky camera efect to make it look like the car is going fast when it clearly wasn´t. And their review are getting just lazy.Never the less it is a great show with lots of different cars, fantastic places and guests. But using James May own words, it just doesn´t give me the fizz anymore. If Chris had the budget they have it would be awesome im sure of it :D Ps: Just my opinion though.
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I have to admit that I haven't really liked Top Gear much for years. Three old guys falling over and being stupid on purpose isn't funny in my books. However I have to say that last two episodes have been excellent (s22e04&05).
Up to 7th season they were both entertaining AND funny. Altough the first season was a bit silly at points. Fe the 911 vs V8 Vantage vs M6 on the isle of man was just absolutely fantastic. I really doubt that it would cost too much to have 2-3 episodes per season of actual car stuff. And also go little bit in the details (like fe the excellent Carrera GT review).
Great review Chris as usual, loved every bit... I would take that C63 over the M4 any day, I think the looks are a lot more subtle and the M4 is too vulgar.
***** just because you prefer the looks of the M4 doesnt mean we all have to like it... I find the M4 a gorgeous car but I much prefer the new C63.
Also dont be a douchebag and stop insulting people who think differently to you.
***** lol the difference between fans and owners aye...
***** you mean M4 looks aggressive and the new c63 looks like a pussy?? I prefer the old c63, looked way better.
yes, old c63 much aggressive still own one, but im getting a lotta attention with my M4. I don't know, the new c63 coupe might look aggressive ??
its not bad, it actually sounds good. and it doesn't come in the speaker all the time. if I put the window open it sounds awesome , no fake noise. drive one before judging . inline 6 has been a benchmark for M cars. coz they don't need v8 to go fast unlike AMG and RS.
So while BMW gives you fake exhaust sounds, Mercedes goes the extra distance and does some proper exhaust R&D to give you the sound customers want.
***** Way better than fake exhaust sounds.
***** Ms use the stereo to pump extra sound dumb fuck. do some research yourself.
That's engine sound dumbass not fucking exhaust sound
Last time I checked the M3/M4 were playing engine noise thru speakers and not some crazy megaphones, so it must be converted into a digital format one way or another, so no matter how you slice it, THAT'S NOT 'real sound' at all.....
I'm not sure how the aftermarket exhaust industry feel about the C63 optional exhaust system. I mean, they will probably have to take those things out anyway. I don't know if it will worth the price or if the aftermarket will come with a better sounding exhaust. Notice how the exhaust system starts from the upper side of the engine on the new C63 too.
like before watching it. the usual
Evo Shift You mad?
Evo Shift When muscle cars make it available.
***** And a pic of a Corvette... Yeah you get the drift
Evo Shift Not everybody is as privileged as some that can own Vettes and AMGs. So stick that ego back up your ass and never let it out again
Evo Shift Hang on I'll just go and quit my degree... And I can't make fake money or buy a fake car can I. Why do people have to be so arrogant.
Oh and I wouldn't class a Corvette as "a real car" because it's a POS, every single generation
Chris Harris on Cars
I absolutely love it when you geek out on cars. For example at 8:44 when you take a look at all of the parts under the skin and explain them quite thoroughly. The 918 video comes to mind.
I realize that this isnt possible on all video shoots. However, if you can manage to put scenes like this in more videos that would be fantastic.
Also, have you and Neil thought about uploading in 60 fps? Imo, that would take your videos to the next level. Imagine the shot at 19:47 at 60 fps!?!
Thanks for all the hard work, love all the vids!
Excellent comment, mate! I totally agree with everything you said. :D
Well said. It's the right amount of hooliganism and wanting to know the car from the inside out that makes Chris Harris exceptional. A car's greatness is not about statistics, but the experience, passion, and engineering behind it.
Deciding on 9 slots to tune the exhaust note paid off.
I scrolled down to write the same only to find you'd saved me the trouble, cheers ... lol
well said.... exactly my thoughts
your completly right (y)
I've never seen Chris drift a car with so little effort. Incredible.
This video rules. You are forever my favorite.
Whenever I'm interested in buying a new car, I always make sure I watch your videos first!
Front and back ends have both lost their aggressive menacing stance and fascia designs. Shame to see the C63 go this route.
The old one looked like it meant business.
This new one looks like it is going to business, in a 2 piece.
Best analogy ever!
You'll appreciate the more somber look when you don't get pulled over as much, its a bit of a sleeper, the joy of blending in and yet still having a live grenade under your right foot is alot of fun, but be in no doubt more aggressive body work is coming in the form of special editions and packages but you'll have to pay to play... You'd know this if you understood the game which is the modern car industry...
David Oh I drive an M3 anyway and have yet to get pulled over once, and that looks like it's going fast standing still!
To be honest it's personal preference. Merc have pulled an E39 with this new C63. It's elegant looking but has hints of what lies beneath whereas the M3 shows its power from all angles and it stands out compared to the other 3 series models .
Still, my money will always go on the body design and aggressive looks without going all WRX :p
I don't need to understand any "game", I'm not an Anorak, I'm a regular driver a and car enthusiast, I know what others like me have always preferred and even Chris mentions about the body design in this video early on.
Well thats where we differ I believe the bmw looks worse than a wrx, the new m3 cannot be called a viable performance car anymore because hatchbacks and shopping carts are beating on tracks..
The sad truth is the m3 has been metropetroualized into a shadow of its former glory trying too hard looks wise so it ends up looking like a a kinder garden class designed it and failing to back up those "looks" with a bespoke engine or improved dynamics over lets say the M1 1 series or even the m235i ...
The Alpina's are better cars and their diesel version ya thats right I said diesel version is viewed as a better car than the M, only 1 tenth off to 60mph btw , and it costs less, too my eyes it is a beautiful classy car with rip snorting performance ..
And you really do need too understand this game cause you clearly are a victim of it. Always wait if you want the best an auto maker can do, case in point GT3rs 4.0 and Gt4 end of life cycle specials.. Ferrari , lambo they all do it .. The smart money is put in those cars...
Btw I have a 2011 Sti sedan in cocaine white for my winter car a few other toys for summer lolol But I'm in Canada so sti's are as common as cat shit here lolol
David Oh Oh I agree about the new M3 (M4/Whatever they are calling it this month :p), I'm on about the older M3s, namely E46 and in some aspects the E92 too. Should have made that more clearer I guess!
Awesome video Chris! And beautiful filming by Neil as well! I'd prefer the coupe but I think I'd take it over the M3 for sure. The more muscle car personality of the AMG appeals to me, and I think the interior is a lot more attractive to look at. Keep up the great work!
WRX fan :) love your vids bro
hey wrxfan. big fan.
yeah, the interior of this gen C-Class is top notch. very modern and high quality.
the old one looks so boring and dated now (it's ok in the facelifted model, though).
I don't know man, to me the screen to frame ratio on the iPad style nav is way off.. Mucho frame for the amount of screen :/
In a couple years it'll look even more out of place and outdated, plus the way it's stuck on there, it's kind of hard to ignore lol
Other than that yeah it's beautiful inside
*Also a big fan of your videos
Look, iPad mini screen aside (not the biggest fan of that), the interior of this new C is one of the most spectacular places to spend your time - it's a baby S class for god sakes! The attention to detail, materials and manufacturing tolerances leave even Audi for dead. BMW has never been about interiors, and it shows.
Hey Matt! yeh the current C Class is a lovely car glad to see they kep tthe V8 with the new AMG.
The production value of these videos are amazing! Neil is really talented.
Amazing video! And massive props to Neil, really well edited and filmed! It was a pure pleasure to watch this video!
M3/4 beater I suspect. Beautifully filmed video as always. Nice work Chris.
Hey Nick, you're a stylish guy, don't you think that the nav screen on the merc is a bit terrible?
I mean the frame is huge compared to the screen which makes it look old and sort of cheap to my eyes even though the car is new and the rest of the interior is beautiful.
It's really difficult to ignore also due to the way it's positioned on the dash.
Love your videos btw!
The general public who can afford the two will probably opt for the Merc in spades, BMW really needs to up their interior game - but the track dogs will likely stick with Munich.
Get this next :D
It's true , that screen...looks just cheap. It just doesn't make up for that gorgeous interior.
i rather have the m3/4 like yours
I love this car. And hot damn, the colour is truly stunning!!
Ohhh yeeeeeah!!!!
Probably capri blue metallic.
Absolutely, the color is beautiful. The whole thing just works, it's a great looking car.
GT7786 The looks do take some getting used to, most people don't get it yet. I remember people going on about the W204 being ugly.
It really is beautiful. I wish it looked a little bit harder. Not sharper, but a little more tuff'.
It's incredible to me that just two guys can produce such beautiful, high-quality automotive content that's among the best, if not THE best, on the web!
MickeyD100 check a Greek channel named drive...there’s a driver who’s name is Michael and producing same quality or better videos with English subtitles
8 years after watching this video I finally own one! (C63S in estate) same color, same wheels as in this video!
Me too ❤😊
I have wanted one for so long. And I pick one up on Saturday fully loaded AMG S . I'm 54 and as excited as a kid at Christmas.
When I analyze the smooth, aerodynamic, cohesive lines of the latest C Class sedan and, by proxy, Merc's latest C63 AMG, I can't help but see one of most quietly stunning vehicles of the 21st century.
I love the mix between road driving, technical stuff and race track hooning. Keep it up. Great Video.
Perfect balance of information and excitement. Beautifully filmed and no bullshit. Keep it up Chris and Neil!
I love how you take the time for the tech-spec bits in your videos. Thanks for another great one!
Great video, Chris. I really appreciate the extra time you take to show us all the little mechanical details that make the car work the way it does.
Oh wow wasn't expecting this! Quite a surprise! Thanks Chris.
Best car review I've watched in a while. Love the in depth discussion of what makes the C63 tick. I have yet to find content like this elsewhere. Thank you Mr. Harris.
What a piece of art, like always, your videos are so professionally filmed and edited, I love the way you talk about cars, much more variety in words which is honestly appealing to watch! And you are making so many little jokes which always give me a chuckle, I love that! Many presenters nowadays should take you for an example!
Keep it up, I really appreciate it!
I love my car. Honestly, sometimes I forget how special this car is because I can't utilize its full potential. Watching this video and seeing it's extraordinary capabilities on a track makes my pulse race and my hairs stand on end.... Blessed to own such a ferocious and dramatic feat of modern engineering. This car is art in motion.
Neil's drone shots were absolutely killing it in this one. Outstanding work.
oh my godness, your videos are just amazing, the content, the way you explain things, also the whole camera thing is incredibly nice . Please continue doing these videos, as a car enthusiast they make my heart even more smiling! Thank you so much for the effort and passion you and Neil put into the videos!
Those aerial shots - beautiful!
When ever i see a Chris Harris video popping up i instandly have a smile on my face:)
I must admit I am starting to be won over by the new C63 AMG. At first I hated it, because it doesn't retain the 6.2 V8. Regardless this review video shows how nice it really is. Great review Chris - your reviews are very natural and enjoyable to watch.
Absolutely loved this video. As a car fan, I can't imagine watching a more well made car video. Great job Neil and Chris!
the part which gives many technical information about the engine,block,diff.. was amazing!please do it for every car!!
Holy s... C63! Chris as always gives us something special!
Man we will miss this V8 biturbo. I own a FY18 w205 c63s (the last with no OPF) and I can 100% agree with Chris, I picked the AMG over an M3 F80, just the sound and the soul of the car is different.
And I have been (and still I am) a BMW guys (I have E and F series of different BMW) but this AMG will be remembered as the last V8 of its saloon class.
What a shame where are we going…(just have a look to the sales figures of the new AMG C63S hybrid…).
I will kept my old v8 as far as I can.
What a beautifully filmed piece. And really love the amount of detail you go into and your pure joy of driving.
Great shots with the drone! A very comprehensive piece, i enjoyed seeing the underpinnings and technical stuff. Keep on rolling this out Mr Harris, and lastly, thank you!
I actually really love the styling. Its more subdued than the W204 but still has this aggressiveness to it. And in that color it just looks even better
Procedure: Open, click like button, then watch.
Makes me think that you are a bit of a stupid kid, even if the video is great.
SaKuLification if it ends up being a shit video then I'll retract my like, but i'll never dislike. I've done car reviews and it's amazing how much time and effort goes into it.
And pause AdBlock. Make sure Chris gets the monies to make more movies like this.
SaKuLification
Judging by your favorites it makes me think your a bit of a chronic masterbaiter
David Oh Judging by that comment, I think it;s fair to call you a chronic stalker.
Oh Chris Harris, please never stop making theses videos - by far my favorite car content on RUclips :)
The way the car is brought into picture is on a hole new level. Many can learn from this. Chris like usual superb review!
Awesome car. Absolutely stunning. All reviews praised it and I will be praising it as well. Had a W204 AMG and it won me over, and I am looking forward to having one of this.
***** yeah, i prefer the old one too, but this is not a bad car. actually i expected worse, but i'm quite impressed what they managed to do with the engine. it sounds pretty good for a turbo, much better than the new m3 if you ask me.
***** If there was a bad review please give me the link.
All the media praised the car;.
After just reviewing last generation's C63 AMG, 507 edition, this next generation might need to be my next car. As always, Chris, you're an inspiration. I think I need to work on my accent and drifting skills ;)
Congratulations, each time you guys upload new stuff the quality gets better, thanks for sharing!!
Been a long time fan of Chris' videos, but as I'm a mechanical engineer by trade this one was quite a bit more entertaining for me as you took the time to show the innards too. Everyone loves a big power slide - it's a laugh, and combining those with great automotive journalism and charismatic presenting, this was a really cool clip
The old 63 looked like a curled up fist, this looks like a curled up fist in driving gloves. Still a fist, but with a wee bit of sophistication added.
Nothing beats NA engines, RIP 6.2L V8
In terms of noise, yes.
Performance?
Almost all the TT V8's will eat the NA for breakfast.
What a great video Chris. Please, keep us delighting us with videos like this one in Portimao.
Thanks for the awesome video as usual, Chris!
Nice drone film shots.
Can't wait for the coupe!
Chris you are the best when it comes to explaining cars.
Remember when this videos was upload...this Drift intro ... This v8 car , this vidéo will be a legend
I am a BMW Fanboy but i must say, in this case, id prefer this AMG over the new F Series m3... !
yeah, same here, complete BMW nut, but this is better imo than the F80 M3
M5 driver here...this AMG is epic.
This car looks boring thought. Needs to be more aggressive and have much wider arches.
I'm disappointed. Mercedes had a really good thing going with their more aggressive angular looking cars from last gen.
I'm not disappointed by the car on your avatar.
I love the real VW
The old Mercs were ugly and cheap looking
I dont mind the rear but the bullnose front on this generation ruined it
Trend moves on, people wore oversized shoulder pads in the 80s, and that looks cheesy nowadays. I like recent Mercs, and I believe matchboxes are for the last century.
that will come back with the C 63 Coupe!
Finally a car video that actually shows the heart of the car of the car. Way to go mate!
Man, he is a natural in talking about cars!! Very informative yet not boring at all. His speech is a great combination of informative talk and entertainment!!
19:35 "Look at me while I pick my nose, pick my nose" lolol
Circuit of Portimão rocks!
The fact that he generally understands and can explain the mechanical side of things makes Chris one of the finest car Journalists around.
Really digging episodes like this that talk about the underpinnings & tech!
chris ur the man
The wheels on this are awesome.. If only this shape had bigger arches, like the W203 had
Another great video guys, your enthusiasm is a big part of your appeal! Also, some really nice aerial shots, especially that one near the end catching the car drifting two corners back-to-back!
dichotomy? a car show with that extra eloquence? Priceless .
That's why we love you Chris!
I don't have a problem with the engine (how can I after all the things you said) but I have a massive problem with the looks. The previous C was the best-looking C ever. Now they just made a small S-Class. And while the S is a great car, I'd like the C to differentiate a little. Solely because of that I'd get the M3. Other than than, a great video as usual. Very thorough.
Just wait for the C coupe, the saloon is always lacking that bit when it comes to look, W204 has the same short. Just see what Merc is going to kick for next years coupe.
Jateruy Xu Hm, I liked the looks of the previous saloon more than the coupe. It looked right to me.
ianiva C is a small S, I see that as a compliment
I agree with you. It can be argued that the 205 looks more classic than the 204 in the regular version, but for the AMG I totally prefer the looks of the 204. It was a complete bad-ass, especially when seen from the front.
might need to trade in my CLA45 for one of these....
It's so awesome to see you in Portugal!
W204 was superior in terms of looks imo
Worst opinion ever
I think this one looks better. The back of the W204 looked weird.
Drmcx this looks even weirder. It looks like the back bumper is way to big in comparison to the trunk.
@@Eidrian111 I disagree.
Based on the exterior design, M4 and the C63 need to swap engines.
TIM Jackson they need to swap interiors too
Agreed
Simply no
That engine look over was absolutely fantastic. Thanks!!
The cinematography in this one is incredible. Well done, Neil! The mood was right for the car and the shots are amazing. Damn.
I went out with a girl last week, she told me she wanted to be 'treated like a Princess'.
So I put her in the back of a Mercedes and drove it into a wall.
Buuuuut,
thats the Sedan and not the Coupé,
the Coupé is the looker,
especially in the first edition version,
the sedan is supposed to look refind and not flamboyant.
I'm in luv with the seats absolutely beautiful!!
Love the walk through with all the technical bits, interesting to see what makes it tick. Keep it up!
When will you test the C63 Coupe ?
Chris, as always, great video! But now to the car: I'm sorry, but I don't like outside look of it. The previous model was agressive and angry looking, whilst this one looks...just like any other luxurious mercedes saloon. But the thing I would want from an AMG is perfomance, and thats what the car should look like. I wouls take the M3 over this anytime without even thinking about it. I am sorry AMG, but to me, this car is a bit of failure :/
This was exceptional, absolutely top quality review of a wonderful car. Thank you Chris and great job Neil! You are getting better and better.
The shots taken by drone are just mega...love it
Chris, you need video thumbnails! Channel feels low budget! Still 1000x better than Drive =]
Regarding the drifting, I think it's refreshing to see a review without drifts once in a while. It's more exciting for me to see a Speciale or Huayra going around a track at 10/10 instead of drifting around every corner like a rebuilt 240sx.
When it comes to cars like a C63 though, it can be nice to see the a** go out since it's "just" a fast C-class.
I do however understand if Mr.Harris likes to trash tires in every single car he gets his hands on when he doesn't have to worry about picking up the bill, I mean who wouldn't =)
Chris Harris. You are by far my favorite car reviewer. I think you care more about cars than most. I mean you showed all of the car. Most JUST tell you about it and kinda don't care to tell more. You go into detail and I really admire that. I've been watching you for a while now and never ever get bored of watching you. Honestly, I envy you. You're just a fantastic person, in my opinion.
Superb video, Neil you are killing it with some outstanding video work, top shelf work guys!
If i got this car i would rip that ipad off because it just drives me crazy
In my experience there's absolutely nothing wrong with it. It's well placed for me and very high definition.
Right, Its well placed. But looks simply crap! Luckily it will probably change with the next facelift..then it will be well integrated in the dash board, just like in the E- and S-Class:)
I'm a BMW guy, but man I've got to say, I like the the philosophy behind the styling of this one better. Looks of a C-Class but goes like a motherfucker. Yeah the M3 is a 3-series underneath, but the color choices, the flamed arches and the aggressive front and back bumpers turn me off :/
That opening slide...WTF! Smile inducing :)
Awesome vid as always. Big respect for the filming, too! Especially with the drone. Very nice balance between tec geeking and hooning. Keep the good stuff coming.
Why do manufacturers use electric steering? Is is lighter or more reliable or something?
It's lighter and it uses less engine power
and it makes the car easier to drive for non purists that can actually pay MSRP for the car brand new, then guys like me who plan to buy these cars years from now 2nd hand when they go down in value complain in the comments because mercedes is catering to a set of people that buy these things to be seen at the mall and at the nightclub and could care less about real driving dynamics. shame really
Another advantage is that it can be programmed. It seems they're using it to make the steering very heavy at center, so it's effortless to drive in a straight line, but have maximum feedback while steering. That's been my experience, but I'm sure some electric steering isn't as well designed as the versions I've driven.
Bogus feel is bogus.
hydraulic power steering pump is estimated to suck about 15 hp, electric power steering uses estimated .25hp of electrical load from the alternator. Hydraulic pump is always on sucking power, electric isnt on all the time
M3 dethroned :)
***** Too slow? LMFAO. The old 507 Edition C63 was just as fast as the M4 in the quarter. The oooooold, bulky, heavy C63. What a pathetic perfomance from the M3, ain't it? M3 is going to get it's ass handed to it ;)))))
***** LOL, you know, I was waiting for the AMG-GT to rape 911's ass and it indeed does it brilliantly. So troll unsuccessful again, lol
This kid Trolls all comments against BMW. He's not even out of diapers yet. There's no point in entertaining any BMW fanboy
Not the same, like he said they are different and i agree, the M3/4 seem lika a lot more sporty car and this is more of a allrounder, id take the C63 any day if it was my only car but the M3/4 if it was my second car probably.
I loved this review. ..I loved the amount of technology they staffed in this car especially the integrated turbo charger..ya turbo is inside the engine as one part of it not sticking outside like all the other cars....
The engine engineering is a masterpiece. ..I love it.
Fantastic camera work by Neil. Also great review and great insight.
A V8 shouldn't need two turbos to make 510hp....
Euro6 norm shit...
Agreed, but the AMG engineers recently hinted at the fact it can push closer to 700+ HP when asked about it (their response was an enthusiastic grin when grilled over HP figures around the 650+ mark).
As I see it, they are more interest in torque at this point, and with the new AMG GT, they don't want to bury the old SLS in shame. First revision of this engine should be interesting. I know Audi are doing some crazy things with their hot V TTV8, and the guys at AMG are fucking nuts.
***** what do you think of Koenigsegg's engines?? :)
It should not but it must since we have to lower emissions. Claimed is 33 but i guess 25mpg is more the truth that's better than many 4/5 cylinder cars with 200-250hp 10 years ago with a V8 and 500hp+.
girlncarorcarngirl
prehistoric :),
I think it looks fantastically expensive! And I'm not one to like or dislike a cars "face", but I think the current merc lights and grill are lovely too. It's not aggressive, but who the hell likes an aggressive person anyway? They're almost always just dicks with "wee-man" syndrome.
I'm not interested in "small" saloons, but I'd have a c63 long before an m3. The styling is much more what I'd want in a grown up sports saloon. The m3 is a bit "guy in his late 30s in a nightclub". And AMG, as ever, know how to make a proper engine.
Superb production - well done Neil.
Great video Chris & Neil... I love the extras you include in these videos like the technology aspects of the car. Thanks for the review.
Would absolutely hate to have to change the spark plugs on that motor...
Simon Coles
Why the fuck would you want to do that on your own in the first place? This is the reason why America has such a twisted look on german cars. They want everything to be simple and not move the fuck on. If you want a 6L supercharged engine on your luxury sedan then go American instead of acting like babies and bashing other cars you won't or can even buy, Jeez.
it's totally irrelevant the way he drifts
Was looking for this!
Your comment is totally irrelevant
where was this guy until now??? This is the best review I have EVER seen. Spot on. Subscribed in an instant
Jaysus this AMG Merc hauls! Chris & Neil, thank you for your fine work in the respective fields, the resultant quality of entertainment is a cut above, for more than the 6 years I've been a fan, so thank you indeed. Cheers to many more episodes to come!
I think I like m4 more than c 63