I am loving the fact that so many of these Crown Court programs are now on RUclips. They really were classic and very well done. Always seem to get on the telly these days is doctors, nurses, emergency and accidents. It is totally boring now. Our crown courts are full of the drama of life, which is never reflected on our screens anymore.
I remember watching this as a kid in the 70's when off school sick. It would be on Tv around 1pm or 2pm. No one of my generation growing up in the 70's can forget that music by Janacek.
Same here, if I were off sick and got better I used to make out I was still sick to my mum so I'd get to stay home and see the final day and the verdict. What a great series, Richard Wilson's finest hour imo as Jeremy Parsons QC, among many fine hours.
I can remember this in the 70s when of school pretending to be sick. Schools and colleges , pebble mill then crown court which I found boring as a kid . Love it now .
I believed the verdict should have been not guilty, based on the evidence. I was looking at the defense counsel, trying to figure where about, I see the actor Brian Cox before and realized it was King Agamemnon from Troy.
Just starting to watch this one, and realised that the first witness is played by Philip Madoc, he plays a doctor who has a romance with Cassie Manson played by Sheila Allen (playing the prosecutor here) in Another Bouquet, the sequel to A Bouquet of Barbed Wire. No wonder I was getting a sense of deja vu!...and yes, the female defendant is also familiar. I saw the actress playing her (Julie Shipley) this afternoon playing Lesley in Rooms, a 70s soap currently showing on Talking Pictures. It's a small world!
Thanks for all the uploads. Reminds me of when my Dad was ill, he used to love watching this daytime tv. He'd record them on a very expensive video recorder I'd brought. I think it cost more than a new top range cd player would today.
This is my new old tv show fix as i remembered the 80s Crown court tv shows as they were shown in the afternoons.I`m going to watch the rest,great 70s and 80s tv programs from Granada
Brian Cox raised the bar here. Came across as a polished barrister with an acerbic tone, incisive wit and an almost intimidating court presence. One could be mistaken for thinking he was a career silk. One day I'll come back and steal the script and use it in court! (and the charismatic inflections.)
Jez T, Thanks ever so much for posting Crown Court. For me, it is a trip down Memory Lane to a lost world of returning deposit bottles to shops that weighed & measured dry goods before wrapping. It wasn't all wine and roses though, as I know only too well.
Very good series and thanks for posting them Jez. It is funny to see how many of the Actors, Actresses have developed since then; and how the types of their current roles have changed too.
His numerous television credits include Crown Court, Z-Cars, The Avengers, London's Burning, Home to Roost, Queenie's Castle, The Saint, The Champions, Dixon of Dock Green, Catweazle, The Main Chance, The Professionals, The Sweeney, Minder, Pennies From Heaven, Westbeach, Howards' Way, Lovejoy, May to December, Boon, Heartbeat, Juliet Bravo and The Scarlet Pimpernel...Anthony Patrick Caunter
The boy in the dock is Ashley Paul Barker hes appeared in many tv shows such as Emmerdale Farm, All creatures great and small, Threads etc........... RIP Ashley
This series passed me by for some reason. Glad to have found it on YT. Some thoroughbred actors in this. The lady barrister was in an episode of The Prisoner. The police officer played the german U-Boat commander in Dad's Army.
This was probably the worst verdict I've seen in the 20 or so of these that I've watched so far. What little evidence there was against them was circumstantial, and even in THEIR trial more of that came out against the girlfriend and her new man. It was a good social experiment into prejudice based on attitude rather than actions though.
Thanks jezz no real proof they did it just here say i guess the girls attitude didnt help though i thought it would be a not guilty,but thats crown court for you.love em now onto next one as youve double billed us fans with crown court pleasure tonight.
No evidence at all, as you say, purely circumstantial. I was anticipating a not guilty verdict too. The jury obviously didn't like the attitude of the girl.
@@paulgreen7035 It was obvious the girl was 100% front, but the popular press would have been full of what the horror stories about feral youths ...y'know, the sort of thing the Daily Mail is full of to this day.
@@paulgreen7035 A signed confession is hardly circumstantial evidence. Where there was no evidence was the counter-accusation that had been forced from him.
The accused girl's use of the 's' word towards the prosecutor in the closing stages seems to have tipped the jury against her. There was no evidence to convict - it was all circumstantial and hearsay - and the confession was obtained without following correct protocol. Aside from it being wrong to punish someone for a crime they did not commit, it also leaves the actual perpetrator free to commit further crimes against others, which is such a serious concern that it should weigh heavily on the jury when they consider the 'beyond all reasonable doubt' issue.
Young lady has a job in what is known as telesales I do this for living 23 years it's a good job and pay. It has a bit of a rep but most places are fine. Pay structure is very good and mostly warm calls to clients who are looking for a quote if you sound friendly and articulate in speech it's a great job.people can be rude but yet fet that in any job if your dealing with the public but don't get me wrong most of them are friendly
It isn't a job for me, but it is nice to see that someone actually enjoys the job and clearly you have the right attitude for it. Please continue to enjoy your work and at the end of the day, it must be remembered that for some, your call is timely and exactly what they needed (i.e., the product or service that you are selling).
Though the story is fictitious, it is rooted in truth and reality. The social worker, condemned by the pure stupidity of the prosecution and judge. He was trying to do good but was basically harangued for it. The girl, intelligent and articulate was already bitter and resigned to her fate. In real life this is so often the case. They do things because they will get the blame anyway. I would have found them innocent. Their futures would have been even bleaker after that and the real culprits would have got off scott free.
Asking a police officer if he has ever been accused of threatening or intimadating a suspect? Would any do so if the officer was any good at it? Possible answer would be: none has ever dared to do so, ma'am. Granted that might only ossur in the worlds of monty python & contemporaries.
Didn't like the verdict. This show is like a who's who of 70's and 80's British actors. I loved, 'The Devil's Crown.' I wish they had churned out more historical dramas at the time. Such solid acting.
They didn't prove anything. The prosecution was aggressive and got away with too much without objection by the defence. Funny how we are more knowledgeable now days and know what would not happen. Perhaps that's why this program hasn't returned in recent times despite its enormous popularity.
There was absolutely no proof. It was all heresay and circumstantial. Only a fool would accept the confession. And why did they not look for the other copper? Has to be the womans new boyfriend and she was egging him on. So glad I no longer practice in England, saw this type of bad justice far too often.
*Brian Cox's accent is terribly fake and he is hamming it up so much that he is forgetting his script, shouting so hard. A real judge would have asked him if the witnesses are deaf.*
I am loving the fact that so many of these Crown Court programs are now on RUclips. They really were classic and very well done.
Always seem to get on the telly these days is doctors, nurses, emergency and accidents. It is totally boring now.
Our crown courts are full of the drama of life, which is never reflected on our screens anymore.
Brilliant acting by the two young accused, Brian Cox , Tony caunter, and Philip Madoc, and rest of cast, thanks JEZ T
I remember watching this as a kid in the 70's when off school sick. It would be on Tv around 1pm or 2pm. No one of my generation growing up in the 70's can forget that music by Janacek.
Same here, if I were off sick and got better I used to make out I was still sick to my mum so I'd get to stay home and see the final day and the verdict.
What a great series, Richard Wilson's finest hour imo as Jeremy Parsons QC, among many fine hours.
I can remember this in the 70s when of school pretending to be sick. Schools and colleges , pebble mill then crown court which I found boring as a kid .
Love it now .
I remember Sheila Allen rom Bouquet of Barbed Wire, A very handsome lady.
Cross on Sgt is still the best cross-examination I have ever seen. And I am a practising lawyer.
I believed the verdict should have been not guilty, based on the evidence. I was looking at the defense counsel, trying to figure where about, I see the actor Brian Cox before and realized it was King Agamemnon from Troy.
Nice one.Loving these.Brings back memories of our black n white telly with a coat hanger for an ariel.
hippyIM1 my dad once made a coat hanger out of a tv aerial!
The usual, polished performance from Brian Cox -- it's nice to see him here.
"And I don't want any soggy chips. I want mine crisp and light brown" The superb Clive Madoc playing DS Hobbs
Sure the actress who plays Sheila was in ‘How we used to live’ which we watched every week at school in the late 1970’s on a big telly on wheels!
I just found these and am really loving my walk down memory lane. Thank you so much!
My pleasure! :)
Gailann Kimbrough .ô9
Brilliant acting by the young boy, I thought. Very convincing.
Just starting to watch this one, and realised that the first witness is played by Philip Madoc, he plays a doctor who has a romance with Cassie Manson played by Sheila Allen (playing the prosecutor here) in Another Bouquet, the sequel to A Bouquet of Barbed Wire. No wonder I was getting a sense of deja vu!...and yes, the female defendant is also familiar. I saw the actress playing her (Julie Shipley) this afternoon playing Lesley in Rooms, a 70s soap currently showing on Talking Pictures.
It's a small world!
Thanks for all the uploads. Reminds me of when my Dad was ill, he used to love watching this daytime tv. He'd record them on a very expensive video recorder I'd brought. I think it cost more than a new top range cd player would today.
I wish my local fish and chips shop stayed open until way past 11pm! 😺
This is my new old tv show fix as i remembered the 80s Crown court tv shows as they were shown in the afternoons.I`m going to watch the rest,great 70s and 80s tv programs from Granada
Thank you so much for these fine episodes, .
My pleasure, Adrian. More to come! :)
Brian Cox raised the bar here. Came across as a polished barrister with an acerbic tone, incisive wit and an almost intimidating court presence. One could be mistaken for thinking he was a career silk. One day I'll come back and steal the script and use it in court! (and the charismatic inflections.)
Jez T,
Thanks ever so much for posting Crown Court. For me, it is a trip down Memory Lane to a lost world of returning deposit bottles to shops that weighed & measured dry goods before wrapping. It wasn't all wine and roses though, as I know only too well.
Great to see these again. Thanks. :)
I'm addicted to these 😋
Gosh working over fime to up load. Thank you.
Crown Court seems to have been the nursery for many great actors, including Richard. "I don't believe it, Wilson!
Thank you so much for posing this. I enjoyed watching this from start to finish.
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
I love these Jez, thank you so much, I'm so happy to see these episodes from the good old days! :)
Very good series and thanks for posting them Jez. It is funny to see how many of the Actors, Actresses have developed since then; and how the types of their current roles have changed too.
The second one in a row I've watched where the jury got the verdict completely wrong.
Such a well crafted and produced series,so much more depth than todays American influenced bland and banal efforts
Law and order uk, perhaps?
@@ravarga4631 Yes,that is well made.
He played the role of Goering at the Nuremberg Trials really well.
CROWN COURT never an episode went without good concentration a great comback needed .
You would never use the term Subnormal intelligence now...
My mam use£ to use the expression “acting the goat” a lot - today, you might say “behaving like a pair of prats!”.
Ashley Barker played the role of Bob (Jimmy Kemp's workmate) in Threads
Thanks Jez.
His numerous television credits include Crown Court, Z-Cars, The Avengers, London's Burning, Home to Roost, Queenie's Castle, The Saint, The Champions, Dixon of Dock Green, Catweazle, The Main Chance, The Professionals, The Sweeney, Minder, Pennies From Heaven, Westbeach, Howards' Way, Lovejoy, May to December, Boon, Heartbeat, Juliet Bravo and The Scarlet Pimpernel...Anthony Patrick Caunter
This looks a good one jez.
I think the accused boy is in Threads. He says "bloody hell" when the bomb goes off, which has to be a contender for understatement of the year.
Correct verdicts 👍
The boy in the dock is Ashley Paul Barker hes appeared in many tv shows such as Emmerdale Farm, All creatures great and small, Threads etc........... RIP Ashley
This series passed me by for some reason. Glad to have found it on YT. Some thoroughbred actors in this. The lady barrister was in an episode of The Prisoner. The police officer played the german U-Boat commander in Dad's Army.
Surprised by the verdict. Thought there was enough doubt to get them off.
Thanks Jez 👍🏼
My faith in the jury is not what it used to be.
Thanks again, so disappointed with the verdict though:(
This was probably the worst verdict I've seen in the 20 or so of these that I've watched so far. What little evidence there was against them was circumstantial, and even in THEIR trial more of that came out against the girlfriend and her new man.
It was a good social experiment into prejudice based on attitude rather than actions though.
@@otterspocket2826 It was, you just know it was Nolan's girlfriend and her new boyfriend that did it.
How old are you mr Harrison: 39. 39!! What was it that made everyone look 10 years older back in the day? Lol
smoking, alcohol and 70s British food would make anyone look old before their time
Thanks jezz no real proof they did it just here say i guess the girls attitude didnt help though i thought it would be a not guilty,but thats crown court for you.love em now onto next one as youve double billed us fans with crown court pleasure tonight.
No evidence at all, as you say, purely circumstantial. I was anticipating a not guilty verdict too. The jury obviously didn't like the attitude of the girl.
@@paulgreen7035 It was obvious the girl was 100% front, but the popular press would have been full of what the horror stories about feral youths ...y'know, the sort of thing the Daily Mail is full of to this day.
@@paulgreen7035 A signed confession is hardly circumstantial evidence. Where there was no evidence was the counter-accusation that had been forced from him.
Philip Madoc, the actor who played Detective Sergeant Hobbs - didn't he play Magua in the Last of The Mohicans?
The verdict is unsafe , there is absolutely no concrete evidence they were even present when the assault occurred.
Except the boy's confession.
Not guilty , but justice was still done .
@HampsteadOwl. That’s an incredibly unsafe confession. He should have had an appropriate adult with him. No way that verdict would stand up today.
Love the Brian Cox shakes his head when she calls Sheila Allen a big shit, as if to say, that's torn it
The accused girl's use of the 's' word towards the prosecutor in the closing stages seems to have tipped the jury against her. There was no evidence to convict - it was all circumstantial and hearsay - and the confession was obtained without following correct protocol. Aside from it being wrong to punish someone for a crime they did not commit, it also leaves the actual perpetrator free to commit further crimes against others, which is such a serious concern that it should weigh heavily on the jury when they consider the 'beyond all reasonable doubt' issue.
That was a surprise verdict. Only circumstantial evidence and a dodgy confession.
Young lady has a job in what is known as telesales I do this for living 23 years it's a good job and pay. It has a bit of a rep but most places are fine. Pay structure is very good and mostly warm calls to clients who are looking for a quote if you sound friendly and articulate in speech it's a great job.people can be rude but yet fet that in any job if your dealing with the public but don't get me wrong most of them are friendly
It isn't a job for me, but it is nice to see that someone actually enjoys the job and clearly you have the right attitude for it. Please continue to enjoy your work and at the end of the day, it must be remembered that for some, your call is timely and exactly what they needed (i.e., the product or service that you are selling).
@@andrewjones-productions very well said,excellent points thanks
The Macbeth and Lady Macbeth of the problem estate.
by watching this it would do no harm to bring crown court back if any producers are listering or the boss freemantel go luck
Anthony Patrick Caunter
Social worker is played by actor who, in Eastenders, played Pat Butcher's last husband. Do I get Brownie points for knowing that? 😆
She gives her some abuse back after being called liar
I don't agree with the verdict 'guilty with no reasonable doubt'.
No real evidence , victim needed to be there .
Was enjoying this until Brian Bloody Cox appeared 🤬
Though the story is fictitious, it is rooted in truth and reality. The social worker, condemned by the pure stupidity of the prosecution and judge. He was trying to do good but was basically harangued for it.
The girl, intelligent and articulate was already bitter and resigned to her fate. In real life this is so often the case. They do things because they will get the blame anyway. I would have found them innocent. Their futures would have been even bleaker after that and the real culprits would have got off scott free.
I don't agree with the judgement.
I would have found the little tykes guilty
Sorry meant you get that in any job spelling error so sorry respect
Asking a police officer if he has ever been accused of threatening or intimadating a suspect? Would any do so if the officer was any good at it? Possible answer would be: none has ever dared to do so, ma'am. Granted that might only ossur in the worlds of monty python & contemporaries.
See 'Matrix Breakout', on the 'IRA'.
Didn't like the verdict. This show is like a who's who of 70's and 80's British actors. I loved, 'The Devil's Crown.' I wish they had churned out more historical dramas at the time. Such solid acting.
'Educational Sub Nornal'
Another atrocious verdict - what is wrong with these juries?
Nearly 50 years ago. No way would that verdict stand today.
They didn't prove anything. The prosecution was aggressive and got away with too much without objection by the defence. Funny how we are more knowledgeable now days and know what would not happen. Perhaps that's why this program hasn't returned in recent times despite its enormous popularity.
Wrong verdict: it was the victim's girlfriend, or maybe her boyfriend.
There was absolutely no proof. It was all heresay and circumstantial. Only a fool would accept the confession. And why did they not look for the other copper? Has to be the womans new boyfriend and she was egging him on. So glad I no longer practice in England, saw this type of bad justice far too often.
*Brian Cox's accent is terribly fake and he is hamming it up so much that he is forgetting his script, shouting so hard. A real judge would have asked him if the witnesses are deaf.*
Guilty?????