The bit with the plastic clicking tooth is brilliant. I've modified a Brownie Target 620 to hold 35mm, and shot one roll with it. It works, but I had to guess at the winding so a fair amount got wasted in between the pictures. A tip of my own for you: if you tape a paper leader onto the film you won't lose so much when you're loading in the spool, unless you normally do that in the dark.
I just found my Brownie Hawkeye in the garage and can't wait to try it out with 35mm film. Thank you SO much for this video. Answered everything I needed. 👍👍📸
It takes 13 clicks to advance one frame leaving a small, less than one tooth spacing, gap between images. You get the maximum number of images with no overlap that way.
This is exactly what I needed! Thank you for explaining and showing how to load and rewind the canister. ❤ I have not been able to find a video that did both soo clearly.
I set them up in front of a white background with a 500w light illuminating it evenly then shot photos of the negatives with my Sony NEX-VG20 camera. Changing from film negative to positive takes a lot of work but its easy to repeat.
I have put a few more rolls through it since then, even a roll of 120. Its a fun camera that makes you do a lot more work to get a decent image, even when compared to my Minolta SLR.
I made a jig for spooling 35mm film onto the backing paper from medium format rolls so that I can load it onto 127, 620 and 120 spools. This way I don't have to modify my cameras at all. I've considered making the plans available for anyone that wants to make their own. But it'd involve access to a laser cutter.
How many ticks does it take to advance to the next frame? This is an ingenious idea by the way! The idea of making a piece that counts each sprocket is awesome.
Question: did you have the lab scan your photos or did the print them out for you? The flicker photos, where they scanned by your Sony camera? Did you have to do any editing or the photos came out just like in the flicker photos? thanks.
@@NickMoore This comment just saved a good 2 weeks of shooting/developing time from being wasted. I appreciate the quick response time, especially on an 8 year old video. What a legend.
Got one of this but having trouble opening it and and got it for $25 bucks and wondering if I’ve did good and if the back can’t come off can I’ve used it as a photo prop when I’m photoshooting with people? -Retro:Scott Fox Ps. The back of the camera wouldn’t open up.. saw what should I’ve do then?
Would you recommend this method over the method of useing no.120 film Were you use a nail clipper to make the spools smaller making it fit perfectly in the camera
I've used unmodified 120 in this camera with no-issue, the spool holders are just flexible enough to work. If you have 120 that needs to be clipped then clip it and use it for sure.
@@NickMoore And by any chance do you know if the 35 mm roll will fit on a kodak duaflex iv? In case it matters their isnt that much extra space for anything other than a no.620 spool.
If the shutter speed for the camera is 1/40 and the f stop is 16 what iso film did you use for the outside shot? I would imagine something like 100 or even 400 wouldn't work properly
I thought I would try this, and have come to the end of my 35mm cartridge. The film won't progress, the winding key won't lift and release, and so my camera (a Six-20) won't open. Would you have any suggestions? Thanks!
I did some small editing to one of those pics with a couple of freeware photos apps. I was looking for one with the RGB. The REDEYE removal did wonders to. You CAN save some/all of those photos for sentimental and educational reasons. Luckily they are not really ruined. Its just spectrums that are off. Give it a try! I suck at these apps and did good.
+Laura Condrin Most film is forgiving enough that it will work with lighting between overcast and full sun. When I use the Hawkeye I just try to make sure that the scene is reasonably bright otherwise I stabilize the camera and take 2 (or more) exposures rapidly to increase the brightness.
Nick Moore I recognized the red dots on my color negatives, too, but now I know, where that comes from. And, to tape the slide on the medium format spool was so easy that I've never thought of
I cannot put the cover & close, circumference of the cassette's edges are a liitle too big. I have the same Hawkeye model as yours. Thanks for sharing.
When the film runs out you can feel the spool go tight and it the plastic tooth will stop clicking. After that you have to unload the film in a darkroom.
this video was really usrful, I collect brownie cameras and really need more info like this for my other brownies, could you do videos like this with cameras such as the brownie no. 2
Nick Moore The earlier box cameras took much better pictures, (the pre bakelite/or plastic). When I was a teen in the 1960/70s I would buy these cameras all the time at church basement rummage sales for like a buck. I had about 5 of them. My favorite was a big box camera that took 616 film (if memory serves me ...i think it was 616)
My only question is: WHY BOTHER????? Just get yourself a Kodak "Pony 35". It's as basic a 35mm camera as you can get! Unless your taking "Pin Hole" exposures in an oatmeal box!
Shooting 35mm through a medium format like the Hawkeye will give an effect called sprocket photography, where the sprocket holes are visible on the exposed image. It's a creative aesthetic that some photographers strive for.
The bit with the plastic clicking tooth is brilliant. I've modified a Brownie Target 620 to hold 35mm, and shot one roll with it. It works, but I had to guess at the winding so a fair amount got wasted in between the pictures.
A tip of my own for you: if you tape a paper leader onto the film you won't lose so much when you're loading in the spool, unless you normally do that in the dark.
I just found my Brownie Hawkeye in the garage and can't wait to try it out with 35mm film. Thank you SO much for this video. Answered everything I needed. 👍👍📸
Glad you found it useful!
That little clicky thing's a brilliant idea!! :-) Love it and thank you.
+Iain Hamilton-Cummings It works well, on a roll of film it only wastes a few mm between shots.
Much better than having to guess the amount to reduce each frame wind-on by!! :-)
I second that! Counting turns and fractions of turns is tedious and inaccurate, at least for me.
+Maxim Zodal After the first spoiled roll I started using the plastic tooth and never wasted more than a couple mm of film between shots.
Are you
It takes 13 clicks to advance one frame leaving a small, less than one tooth spacing, gap between images. You get the maximum number of images with no overlap that way.
This is exactly what I needed! Thank you for explaining and showing how to load and rewind the canister. ❤ I have not been able to find a video that did both soo clearly.
This is ingenious .! Good work salute!
The clicking tooth IS Ingenious! I will use this hack in my wooden pinhole! And, I'll try your 35mm hack in my Hawkeye. Thanks
I Have a few Hawkeye and I've always wanted to use them. This is a great idea.
All of the photos were spoiled because of the tape I put over the window. I put a link to some examples in the description for you.
I set them up in front of a white background with a 500w light illuminating it evenly then shot photos of the negatives with my Sony NEX-VG20 camera. Changing from film negative to positive takes a lot of work but its easy to repeat.
Thanks for sharing!! I have a Brownie and this 35mm project looks like fun..
I have put a few more rolls through it since then, even a roll of 120. Its a fun camera that makes you do a lot more work to get a decent image, even when compared to my Minolta SLR.
What an ingenious little idea, that clicker!
thanks super helpful, would love to see what you made with this
very clever, thanks for sharing
Very interesting! Thank you,
I made a jig for spooling 35mm film onto the backing paper from medium format rolls so that I can load it onto 127, 620 and 120 spools. This way I don't have to modify my cameras at all. I've considered making the plans available for anyone that wants to make their own. But it'd involve access to a laser cutter.
Great information. I just bought one of those cameras and will give it a try after flipping the lens
Very clear presentation and very useful, thanks.
Glad you found it helpful!
How many ticks does it take to advance to the next frame? This is an ingenious idea by the way! The idea of making a piece that counts each sprocket is awesome.
Question: did you have the lab scan your photos or did the print them out for you? The flicker photos, where they scanned by your Sony camera? Did you have to do any editing or the photos came out just like in the flicker photos? thanks.
Interesting, I never thought to try that. I'll give it a shot.
Thanks for the great video.
YOU. ARE. A. LIFESAVER.
Glad it helped. Make sure you cover the little peep hole in the back well. I had to use 3 layers of foil tape to stop from fogging the film.
@@NickMoore This comment just saved a good 2 weeks of shooting/developing time from being wasted. I appreciate the quick response time, especially on an 8 year old video. What a legend.
Got one of this but having trouble opening it and and got it for $25 bucks and wondering if
I’ve did good and if the back can’t come off can I’ve used it as a photo prop when I’m photoshooting with people?
-Retro:Scott Fox
Ps. The back of the camera wouldn’t open up..
saw what should I’ve do then?
There should be a lever on the top that releases the back. If it is really stuck maybe give it a gentle squeeze?
I have a 35 mm Pinhole camera that has a similar frame counting system. It is effective!
I don't know if you mentioned this in the video or not, but how many exposures are you able to get out of a roll on average?
This is genius thank you
thank you for this advices! but i tried to put a 35mm canistre inside, but could not close the box- what is the trick??
For my camera there is a kinda sweet spot where the case can just barely close, it's not a great fit but it only seems to fit in the one way.
Would you recommend this method over the method of useing no.120 film
Were you use a nail clipper to make the spools smaller making it fit perfectly in the camera
I've used unmodified 120 in this camera with no-issue, the spool holders are just flexible enough to work. If you have 120 that needs to be clipped then clip it and use it for sure.
@@NickMoore And by any chance do you know if the 35 mm roll will fit on a kodak duaflex iv? In case it matters their isnt that much extra space for anything other than a no.620 spool.
Great explanation, thanks for shearing!
If the shutter speed for the camera is 1/40 and the f stop is 16 what iso film did you use for the outside shot? I would imagine something like 100 or even 400 wouldn't work properly
I thought I would try this, and have come to the end of my 35mm cartridge. The film won't progress, the winding key won't lift and release, and so my camera (a Six-20) won't open. Would you have any suggestions? Thanks!
I did some small editing to one of those pics with a couple of freeware photos apps. I was looking for one with the RGB. The REDEYE removal did wonders to. You CAN save some/all of those photos for sentimental and educational reasons. Luckily they are not really ruined. Its just spectrums that are off. Give it a try! I suck at these apps and did good.
Cool. Can you make a video of that process? Thanks.
Thanks
Glad you liked it.
when you shoot, are you assuming that situation will be around proper exposure or are you metering and deciding whether or not to take the image?
+Laura Condrin Most film is forgiving enough that it will work with lighting between overcast and full sun. When I use the Hawkeye I just try to make sure that the scene is reasonably bright otherwise I stabilize the camera and take 2 (or more) exposures rapidly to increase the brightness.
Thank you for this video.
It explained 2 troubles I had to cope with my East German Perfekta box-camera
+Michael Zieschang Glad it helped, did you get your camera working?
Nick Moore I recognized the red dots on my color negatives, too, but now I know, where that comes from. And, to tape the slide on the medium format spool was so easy that I've never thought of
Nick Moore look here goo.gl/photos/FFZvgTaDTNDJMGLN8
Cool
I cannot put the cover & close, circumference of the cassette's edges are a liitle too big. I have the same Hawkeye model as yours. Thanks for sharing.
+tulauc If you have 2 spools you could try winding your 35mm onto the spare. Not sure how you could keep it centered though.
My plastic little thing didn't work, do you know how many turn of the button i have to do for pass the 13 holes ? Thanks so much !
Did you ever figure it out? I think I counted about 2 and I am about to try this myself.
Ahh, I never thought of the leader, thank you.
amazing.
Would this be able to work with the brownie hawkeye camera? Instead of the flash?
As far as I know it will work. Just check that a 35mm can will fit inside and let the case close fully.
what happens when the film is finished, does it just not turn anymore or do you not know
When the film runs out you can feel the spool go tight and it the plastic tooth will stop clicking. After that you have to unload the film in a darkroom.
this video was really usrful, I collect brownie cameras and really need more info like this for my other brownies, could you do videos like this with cameras such as the brownie no. 2
I only have one other medium format camera but the setup is identical to this one, sorry.
Awesome-Thanks!
Damn. My Hawkeye flash (October 1952) won’t close with a 35mm canister in there
So Vintage!
i love my hawkeye
My sister and I had cameras like these. The lens was so terrible that there was always blurring around the edges of the photos
inkey2 I've used it with 35mm and 120 film and found pretty much the same thing but its still a fun camera to keep around and use some times.
Nick Moore The earlier box cameras took much better pictures, (the pre bakelite/or plastic). When I was a teen in the 1960/70s I would buy these cameras all the time at church basement rummage sales for like a buck. I had about 5 of them. My favorite was a big box camera that took 616 film (if memory serves me ...i think it was 616)
Really!? NO Photo Samples.. I was REALLY looking forward to seeing how this worked out in all reality.
He has a link to the Flickr gallery with the sample images in the description of this video. Click the "show more link".
35 mm film on a larger film camera? ...instead of 120/160 film?
WHY?
120 is hard to find lately and the 35 lets you use the film right up to the edge.
+BillXCIII Since I made this video I was able to order some but many suppliers will not ship outside the US.
Sure, but several millimeters along each side are ruined by the sprocket holes.
Thats part of the fun..and unusual effect of using 35mm film
No sample images!
Try here: www.flickr.com/photos/nicholas_m/sets/72157631946653904/
Nick Moore Thanks, I love old cameras .
mamiyapress No problem. I'm working on another video about usinga Zeiss Nettar 510 for later this year
F22 by the way
My only question is:
WHY BOTHER?????
Just get yourself a Kodak "Pony 35". It's as basic a 35mm camera as you can get!
Unless your taking "Pin Hole" exposures in an oatmeal box!
Shooting 35mm through a medium format like the Hawkeye will give an effect called sprocket photography, where the sprocket holes are visible on the exposed image. It's a creative aesthetic that some photographers strive for.
This is pretty much witchcraft to me. Ha