The set-hate cards should come back in silver-border sets, it could be pretty funny to have something like "Ravnica? Again? Enough." 4 mana artifact, tap to destroy all permanents printed in a Ravnica set. Flavour text: "Return to return to Return to Ravnica was good, but the fifth war of the spark was something else - Mtg players, 2030"
I could imagine cards like the fun police having protection from silver boarder cards and something called "always serious" destroying all silver boarder cards
An Eldraine hate card like this would probably see play in Standard 2021 on Arena or in the sideboard in the upcoming Standard. Completely dismantles Clover decks, hits Embercleave, Torbran and Bonecrusher Giant in RDW as well as Lovestruck Beast, Questing Beast, Yorvo and The Great Henge in mono green stompy. Does little to nothing against Ugin but there are several decks that are very reliant on Eldraine cards.
city in a bottle certainly does not deserve to be on this list it sees a small amount of play in vintage as a way to hate out bazaar of Baghdad and to a lesser extent library of Alexandria. if a card sees play in vintage i dont think it can be considered on a 'worst cards list'
@@ethanbrown4167 Interesting deck. I'm curious though, why Helm of Obedience? I see the gameplan with the rest of the decklist, but why Helm? Is it just a fail safe in case the deck runs out of creatures as a wincon once he gets the Time Vault + Mirage Mirror combo going? He can't loop it infinitely to mill his opponent, unless they have 0 creatures: is that why it's there instead of some other recurring mill effect, because it CAN still nab a creature? That's the one card that feels sort of filler to me. Could someone with Vintage knowledge fill me in? I'm genuinely curious. Edit: Wait, I just realized it combos with Leyline of the Void. Does Void's replacement effect prevent Helm from getting sacrificed if a creature gets flipped?
@@CanadianBaconPwnage Its because he is running four leyline of the void in the main. This is a two card combo that lets you mill out your opponent. The reason this works is because the helm requires cards go to the graveyard for it to stop milling. So what happens is you have leyline of the void in play and you activate the helm with x=1, because of leyline of the void no cards ever get put into the graveyard so the clause on the helm that says, "until a creature card or X cards are put into the graveyard, whichever comes first" never occours, even if X=1. This leads to you milling your opponents entire library.
Funnily enough, Mold Demon was the card that got me into EDH. My very first deck ever was Gitrog Monster, specifically so that I could use Mold Demon’s downside as an “upside”
In Old School-magic (only cards from 93/94) quite a few people wants City in a Bottle banned or at least restricted. I've seen tournaments where house rules decided to ban it. City in a Bottle is definitely considered one of the more powerful cards in the format (and that is a format with Moxen and Library of Alexandria). I understand that EDH is a different format, but putting City in a Bottle as the worst reserved list card ever... That's just shocking :o
@@kylerharris4246 Because reserved list cards are never being reprinted as of now; people with money to invest buy up good reserved list cards, sit on them and sell them later at a higher price for profit. When these buyouts happen players who just want good cards for their decks also participate in panic buying.
I actually think that this card is "undervalued" here and didn't deserve the no.4 spot on this list. At least it's +2/+2 for just one mana (with upside)
@@kvetchenfinks7044 well, I wrote one mana didn't I... As said, the upkeep is optional, so it can be regarded as an upside from the effect it grants the first turn. I never said it was good though, only that there are other worse cards that would deserve the spot...
I had an LGS by me that had cards pre priced. 25cents for common, 50cents uncommon, 1 dollar rares and my buddy and I got soo many reserved cards for nothing. (I'm Canadian so it's even cheaper in American)
I had someone gift me a big box of cards in 2009 (they saw me making some changes to my deck at my junior college and asked me if I'd like their old cards that were just sitting around doing nothing...they had quit playing right after buying some Tempest boosters). The cards included in that box were: Demonic Consultation, Unlimited Demonic Tutor, Wasteland, all of the original Elder Dragons, Rasputin Dreamweaver, Mana Drain, Vampiric Tutor, Cadaverous Bloom, Necropotence, Lotus Vale, Abeyance, and a shitload of decent commons and uncommons (including multiples of Dark Ritual, Counterspell, Brainstorm, and other staple classics).
Wood Elemental is actually a pretty decent lightning rod for kill spells in a Saproling deck. All you need is Life and Limb to make all your saplings and forests into saproling forests. If you don't have enough saps to make Wood Elemental a 100/100 by mid game, you ain't token the duel seriously.
Wood Elemental graces another Worst Top 10 list 🤣 I still remember the names of the EDH decks that you mentioned running these cards (e.g. I hate my life, worst cards tribal, etc. 🤣🤣)
I love that Cycle of Life is even worse than it looks bc you cannot just target one of your creatures, it has to be a creature you summoned this turn for extra suckage
@@lancourt It would depend on synergy. If you have effects that double counters and effects that proc on spell casting or permanents leaving the battlefield, then it would be a good piece of that.
The creation of the reserved list was one of the biggest mistakes wizards has ever made. It made mtg somewhat of a secondary isolated stock market, when in reality it’s just a trading card game. Which created a huge financial barrier for new players and is the main reason the paper eternal formats are slowly dying.
While I hate the reserve list as well, I could see maybe 50-100 cards being on there for collectable purposes. But the biggest mistake was to include the original dual lands. Duals make every deck better and encourage players to brew more decks. Which means more cards would be sold. But it's never going to be changed so I'm just wasting my breath. Lol
Alpha cards were not reprinted in Chronicles; it was just a selection of cards from Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends, and The Dark. Likewise 4th Edition used cards from these expansions to fill gaps created in the base set by the removal of cards that Wizards considered too broken after unlimited and revised, like the moxen, and the dual lands (they did this prior to the reserve list's implementation). The notion that these sets "tanked" the value of the alpha set is pretty dubious. What really happened is that collectors got upset that cards that had incredibly inflated prices due to scarcity, not playability, lost value on the secondary market (The printing of Legends, for example sold out almost immediately, and Wizards didn't do unlimited printings at the time). So it was really that people who had been lucky enough to snag Legends packs or boxes, were mad that cards like the original Elder Dragon Legends, which were pretty much unplayable under the regular ruleset, had a price correction that reflected their value as game pieces. I would argue that the Chronicles, for all the flak that it gets from people, probably helped the nascent EDH variant, because it made the Elder Dragons, and multicolor legendary creatures in general, available to the playerbase at large. Legendary creatures were thin on the ground for a good while after Legends and the Chronicles reprints, and multicolor ones even more so.
You know, I can't stand the idea of the reserved list. Cards are toys, not stocks. They absolutely shouldn't be treated like an investment. It's a shame that they couldn't remove the list even if they wanted to because of Hasbro bullshit. An Alpha Birds of Paradise is still $3000 despite it being reprinted to hell. But even if it did tank, I don't care. Maybe it's my Yu-Gi-Oh background where there's no reserved list and all cards tank in value after a while. Blue-Eyes White Dragon from the first set is ~$40, and it's the most expensive card from there. It also makes Vintage basically unplayable since you absolutely need the Mox and the Power 9 unless you want to try manaless Dredge. Speaking of, do "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)."
The vintage problem couldn't really be solved because, even if the reserved list didn't exist, there's no way in hell Wizards would reprint the power 9 in new sets.
@@leof.2695 I could see them printing it in an ultra premium product, like as an ultimate masters box topper thing, or a super expensive secret lair, or a from the vault style thing
Try telling that to a lawyer. Also wizards takes advantage of an overpriced secondary market all the time, like the fetchlands, so prices wouldn't go down that much even if they were reprinted in something like a secret lair.
I was going to be all like "that's not on the Reserved List" but holy shit, they did actually print that piece of crap as a rare. On the other hand, I think there are some real decks that actually make use of it (not good decks, but real ones) by giving it to your opponent and then tapping it to repeatedly boardwipe them.
Note: City in a Bottle is HUGE in Old School. There is a long discussion about errata or restricting/banning it in New England Old School every couple months.
Y'know, if you just use mystic might's ability on upkeep and then let it die to the cumulative upkeep cost, you did basically get +4/+4 for 3 mana over 2 turns. Still not good, but not the worst deal, really.
The best use for City in a Bottle is to side it in against the red player who's showing off by running Arabian Nights mountains. But sadly, you can't even do that anymore, as they changed these cards to affect cards originally printed in the expansion, rather than by expansion symbol.
i wonder if an 'ashaya, soul of the wild' EDH deck could potentially make wood elemental work? it would have to be a very casual game with friends, but would still be funny none the less.
I'd actually like to see the price of the cards in all your videos. It would be interesting to see how their success or failure affects the price, other factors (like being on the RL) notwithstanding.
0:52 Translated from Nizzahon’s very civil, charitable, and polite summation: “Because players, way back in 1996, were being basic bitches about reprints.”
I'm so glad the power 9 has such good art. Can you imagine someone asking what the most powerful card in the 25 plus years of mtg is and you show them the art for wood elemental
The reserved list exists because many would rather see their ship sink in greed than give up some of their gold. The game (which can include the sub formats upon which it is played) will one day die due to cost of entry. With less and less players entering a format, the real value of cards legal to that format sinks less and less.
Those 16 people running Wood Elemental definitely need their head examined... I keep trying to think of build-arounds to it and I don't know why. You could play black/red/green and have damage be dealt when permanents are sacrificed, like Mayhem devil and others, but then you kind of need to trust the wood elemental to finish the game if you can and in a deck that runs a bunch of colors, you still need a large number of Forests specifically. Even if you have something like Multani to get them back out or a Crucible of Worlds, it still seems like you're setting yourself so far back just to have a creature that's probably not huge and also didn't end the game.
surprised sorrow's path wasn't on this list. a land that doesn't tap for mana and that pyroclasms your board in order to do things is just awful. Maybe it escaped the list by being in meme decks where people donate it to the opponents and tap it down
I play it in an edh deck where I want to pyroclasm my board repeatedly and sorrow's path can be good there. It would be the best land in the deck if I could use it whenever instead of only being able to use it when someone's blocking someone with at least 2 creatures :/
City in a Bottle is extremely strong in 93/94 formats, so it’s way better than all other cards on this list. Apocalypse Chime should have been alone on top.
Cycle of life actually has some usefulness, you can use it on 0/0 creatures like spike feeder, or pair it with enchantress effects. Still a pretty weak card tho
Aegis meaning: the protection, backing, or support of a particular person or organization.. Could also mean a shield like you said. But for the card on this list I believe it does make sense 🤔
I have been waiting for this episode for years! Ever since I restarted my card-by-card review of the reprintability of The Reserved List card, No Reservations II: magicseteditor.boards.net/board/18/mtg-lounge?q=no+reservations+
Mercenaries is a great example of how strict the colour pie could be in Ice Age... White wasn't supposed to get a 3/3 for 3W without a downside, because it had weenies and anthems. Fortunately it also had Swords! Also, Wood Elemental is now $38, good lord. I think it might be a nice awful Jank card in decks that want to sac lands (and this is an openly bad way to sac lands for almost no payoff), but that justifies a $2 price tag, maybe.
Wood Elemental has it's place in EDH decks where scaficing lands get's you value. Gitrog, the mono green that makes 5/3 tokens when lands are blown up. Besides have four left over after casting Wood Elemental is enough for Splendid reclamation the turn after.
It isn't worth it in Gitrog. It draws you one card for a 5 mana 1/1. Titania isn't worth it either. There are too many cards way better in both those decks for it to ever be played. It is terrible, even in those dexks.
For the expansion, hate cards, do those that were reprinted in other sets count? I can understand how maybe something that was printed in 4th or 5th edition might not be part of this, but what about those printed in chronicles?
I actually saw 4 near mint city in the bottle for like $50 one time in a LGS about 15 years ago lol .Man I wish I had scooped them up .Cant believe that is a $400 card now.
Wood Elemental is actually good in one EDH deck. Titania, Protector of Argoth. She loves to sacrifice lands. If you have 7 forests, you make a 3/3 wood elemental and 4 5/3 elementals.
Sometimes I like to guess which cards make a list before watching. But I am not actually sure which cards are on Reserved List, or even if some of those cards are not rare. If any of the Bands with legends lands are Reserved List then I think they might make it and if any of the prevent specific landwalk ability enchantments from Legends are as well then those too. Obviously Wood Elemental makes the list (LOL). I would put Shelkin Brownie on the list as well (but it is not rare and quite probably is not on the Reserved List). Sure against top decks and players Shelkin Brownie is quite possible a 2 mana chump blocker and much better than anything Wood Elemental could be against those decks and players. But in my personal subjective criteria and ranking terrible cards are likely being played against other weird, bad, under-powered, poorly constructed cards, decks and players and in that scenario Wood Elemental has the theoretical potential of becoming a 5/5 or 6/6 or something and doing something if the opponent has no or cannot find hard removal. Shelkin Brownie on the other hand basically doesn't amount to anything other than perhaps dealing the last one or two points of unblocked damage, which needs something quite remarkable to actually happen (well maybe that's is better best case, hmmm). Having some thoughts on the matter, but I still think I think Shelkin Brownie is worse than Wood Elemental though.
if i had ti my way all cards on the reserve list would be banned in all formats , even vintage . why? because if they will not ever reprint it then it should not be usable and left to the collectors since thats the real purpose of the list. it exists to artificially prop up card values.
Oh, boy. Time to see all 10 of these on the next Market Watch as buyouts because reserved list cards got mentioned. Seriously, Wizards, just do away with that list already. There's not even a legal issue holding you to it, and the 2 people who'd be mad at it kinda deserve what they'd lose (talking about you, Alpha Investments, using the list to drive prices up to 4 digits).
Lol, pretty sure Wood Elemental is strictly a Titania finisher piece as a cmc4 sacrifice outlet for your lands so you can get in with 5/3s. It is still horrible though, and I hate that it doesn't allow you to use your lands that you want to sacrifice because it basically wastes your entire turn to pull off.
I don't know about "good", but here's the ones I consider the best having looked through a list of them all and seeing what was in the top decks at 1994 worlds: Fallen Angel - decent priced flier that can hit for the kill fast in a token deck, Gwendlyn Di Corci (not just the art) - difficult to cast, but reasonable stats for the cost and an amazing ability, Hell's Caretaker - repeatable reanimation for no additional mana and a reasonable upfront cost, Ichneumon Druid - wasn't good when it was printed, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in Vintage sideboards against Storm, Rabid Wombat - was good in Enchantress decks, Rubinia Soulsinger - you pretty much will always have the opponent's best creature, Sol'kanar the Swamp King - actually decent size for his cost (unlike most Legends in the set) with two reasonable positive abilities, Spinal Villain - narrow effect, but absolutely brutal against the right opponent and was in the sideboard of a T4 deck at 1994 Worlds, Time Elemental - not all that much worse than Temporal Adept, which was played in constructed, and was in Zak Dolan's 1994 World Champion deck, Whirling Dervish - the only other creature in Legends to make the final match in 1994 worlds in the second place deck, and contributed to winning the first game.
I really expected to see Wood Elemental at number 1...I still think of it as the worst card ever printed from a power perspective. At least City in a Bottle can deal with City of Brass, Bazaar of Baghdad, Library of Alexandria, or to a lesser extent, Juzam Djinn, Ernham Djinn, or Desert Twister. And Apocalypse Chime can deal with Merchant Scroll, Ihsan's Shade, or Didgeridoo.
Apocalypse Charm has to be a bottom 10 card of all time. There are what, two playable permanents from Homelands? Three at most? This isn't hitting a damn thing. At least City in a Bottle and Golgothian Sylex can randomly hose some powerful lands.
I get city in a bottle from am EDH perspective is not a good card, but in another format (93/94) it is an almost automatic sideboard inclusion, which is why it is asking for such a ridiculously higher price tag compared to it´s antiquities version. So calling it the top 1 worst card on the reserve list is a bit much. IT also see´s quite a bit of vintage play.
I think the number 1 cards on this list are somewhat playable. Sure, they're absolutely terrible in the average case, but their success case is good enough to make it into some sideboards. I feel like worst lists should have cards that are completely unthinkable to ever even seriously consider for any real competitive deck. Maybe Nizzahon is imagining like if there were a cube of every card every made, and then his number 1 cards would be the absolutely last cards picked.
Idk I think Arabian nights has more powerful cards than antiquities. It has only like workshop transmute artifact and power artifact su chi and like 1 other card where nights has juza dinner library of Alexandria bazaar of Baghdad. Serimdeb ferret the 3 mana 3/4 flier. Drop of honey diamond valley. So it’s closer than ya think ohhh and calendabra of towands is as in antiquities.
Mystic Might is actually not bad. At worse, it is a color-pie-breaking sorcery with rebound that gives +2/+2 for a mana cost of 1U. With the upside of rebounding it a couple more turns if you have lots of mana. This is more playable than most blue combat tricks we see every set and certainly better than many cards not on this list.
@@NizzahonMagic I didn't say it is. I said it's more playable than most of them (with the implied meaning that I'd rather have this as my 23rd draft card than something like Rookie Mistake).
@@zaclock-4228 I would take Rookie Mistake every time. Mystic Might will basically never trade for a card - you are going down a card for a really erratic chance at damage. Rookie Mistake isn't very good, but can at least trade more consistently.
I don't care what you have as number one, it is Wood Elemental, there is not a single reason or way ever or how that card will be useful in any deck EVER. FUCK Wood Elemental.
I believe they need revise the reserved list. Their severall examples along your topped him here that show that certain cards may be removed. Like number 2, That's just adding fluff To reserve list. And when you start adding fluff to something it's no longer really reserved. In this top 10 you did there is really no power in the cards you show.
bwahaha city in a bottle is an automatic side board inclusion in 93/94 and some even run it maindeck, and it is played quite a bit in vintage too. If you can make it in vintage you need to be really good, and 93/94 is a format that has quite the punch too, with all the power being legal and whatnot.
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The set-hate cards should come back in silver-border sets, it could be pretty funny to have something like "Ravnica? Again? Enough." 4 mana artifact, tap to destroy all permanents printed in a Ravnica set. Flavour text: "Return to return to Return to Ravnica was good, but the fifth war of the spark was something else - Mtg players, 2030"
I could imagine cards like the fun police having protection from silver boarder cards and something called "always serious" destroying all silver boarder cards
Imagine a card that says: exile all zendikar cards from opponent's hand, library and graveyard. Costs 2 generic Mana and 1 black.
It would be funny if it was an eldrazi doing that
An Eldraine hate card like this would probably see play in Standard 2021 on Arena or in the sideboard in the upcoming Standard.
Completely dismantles Clover decks, hits Embercleave, Torbran and Bonecrusher Giant in RDW as well as Lovestruck Beast, Questing Beast, Yorvo and The Great Henge in mono green stompy.
Does little to nothing against Ugin but there are several decks that are very reliant on Eldraine cards.
There are entire decks where all the cards are out of one set like clover and cycling.
Exile all Teferi would be better
The card would be called "fuck draft and sealed"
city in a bottle certainly does not deserve to be on this list it sees a small amount of play in vintage as a way to hate out bazaar of Baghdad and to a lesser extent library of Alexandria. if a card sees play in vintage i dont think it can be considered on a 'worst cards list'
www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3349157#online here is a recent 5-0 list with city in a bottle in the sideboard
@@ethanbrown4167 Interesting deck. I'm curious though, why Helm of Obedience? I see the gameplan with the rest of the decklist, but why Helm? Is it just a fail safe in case the deck runs out of creatures as a wincon once he gets the Time Vault + Mirage Mirror combo going? He can't loop it infinitely to mill his opponent, unless they have 0 creatures: is that why it's there instead of some other recurring mill effect, because it CAN still nab a creature?
That's the one card that feels sort of filler to me. Could someone with Vintage knowledge fill me in? I'm genuinely curious.
Edit: Wait, I just realized it combos with Leyline of the Void. Does Void's replacement effect prevent Helm from getting sacrificed if a creature gets flipped?
@@CanadianBaconPwnage Its because he is running four leyline of the void in the main. This is a two card combo that lets you mill out your opponent. The reason this works is because the helm requires cards go to the graveyard for it to stop milling.
So what happens is you have leyline of the void in play and you activate the helm with x=1, because of leyline of the void no cards ever get put into the graveyard so the clause on the helm that says, "until a creature card or X cards are put into the graveyard, whichever comes first" never occours, even if X=1. This leads to you milling your opponents entire library.
@@TheRetrus Oh, I didn't realize it can instant mill a library just on X=1. Thanks for the explanation!
Good catch. I bet that's why it's $400 and the others at number one are dirt cheap.
Playing Wood Elemental during a game is slightly more environmentally friendly than setting your deck on fire.
If it wasn't for the ink fumes it would be less environmentally friendly.
We should still rip and tear them until they are done.
Funnily enough, Mold Demon was the card that got me into EDH. My very first deck ever was Gitrog Monster, specifically so that I could use Mold Demon’s downside as an “upside”
wtfh
City in a Bottle is a pretty real card in oldschool and even some vintage sideboards.
I came to say this. City is great in Old School
Same here!
It is a very specific meta pick that works very well
Vintage? I doubt it, there are probably better alternatives to city
"Ultimate Nissa Who Shakes the World. SACRIFICE 30 FORESTS TO CAST WOOD ELEMENTAL."
In Old School-magic (only cards from 93/94) quite a few people wants City in a Bottle banned or at least restricted. I've seen tournaments where house rules decided to ban it. City in a Bottle is definitely considered one of the more powerful cards in the format (and that is a format with Moxen and Library of Alexandria). I understand that EDH is a different format, but putting City in a Bottle as the worst reserved list card ever... That's just shocking :o
Fun list! Only disagreement I have is City in a Bottle, which is a very good card in Old School 93-94 format
Comedy gold timing with this one Nizzahon
Why’s that?
@@crazyvikingboy2856 Reserved List buy out
fatrat600284 oh yeah lmao F*ck mtg finance people
fatrat600284- whats that mean
@@kylerharris4246 Because reserved list cards are never being reprinted as of now; people with money to invest buy up good reserved list cards, sit on them and sell them later at a higher price for profit.
When these buyouts happen players who just want good cards for their decks also participate in panic buying.
The one deck with Mystic might is a "mystic in the name" tribal. I- cant even
Ohhhh, that sounds like a fun deck
I actually think that this card is "undervalued" here and didn't deserve the no.4 spot on this list. At least it's +2/+2 for just one mana (with upside)
@@hermodnitter3902 except that it actually costs a lot more with that 2 mana cumulative upkeep cost
@@kvetchenfinks7044 well, I wrote one mana didn't I... As said, the upkeep is optional, so it can be regarded as an upside from the effect it grants the first turn. I never said it was good though, only that there are other worse cards that would deserve the spot...
@@hermodnitter3902 alright fair enough
I had an LGS by me that had cards pre priced. 25cents for common, 50cents uncommon, 1 dollar rares and my buddy and I got soo many reserved cards for nothing. (I'm Canadian so it's even cheaper in American)
I had someone gift me a big box of cards in 2009 (they saw me making some changes to my deck at my junior college and asked me if I'd like their old cards that were just sitting around doing nothing...they had quit playing right after buying some Tempest boosters). The cards included in that box were: Demonic Consultation, Unlimited Demonic Tutor, Wasteland, all of the original Elder Dragons, Rasputin Dreamweaver, Mana Drain, Vampiric Tutor, Cadaverous Bloom, Necropotence, Lotus Vale, Abeyance, and a shitload of decent commons and uncommons (including multiples of Dark Ritual, Counterspell, Brainstorm, and other staple classics).
@@HaydenX minor jackpot! also, I love Cadaverous Bloom
@@alyssinwilliams4570 minor ?? mana drain alone is like 400 bucks, and there is a bunch more more in the 100+dollars range on that list
Wood Elemental is actually a pretty decent lightning rod for kill spells in a Saproling deck. All you need is Life and Limb to make all your saplings and forests into saproling forests. If you don't have enough saps to make Wood Elemental a 100/100 by mid game, you ain't token the duel seriously.
I'm glad Farmstead allows target land to generate mana as usual.
Yeah in a Heliod commander it’s marginally decent. 3 devotion and can trigger its plus one counters ability.
Wood Elemental graces another Worst Top 10 list 🤣
I still remember the names of the EDH decks that you mentioned running these cards (e.g. I hate my life, worst cards tribal, etc. 🤣🤣)
I love that Cycle of Life is even worse than it looks bc you cannot just target one of your creatures, it has to be a creature you summoned this turn for extra suckage
If you could target any creature, then it would be good in a Hydra Tribal Deck. Most of them are 0/0, so it would actually boost their toughness.
Now imagine that was your rare back when you're 12 cracking packs of a brand new set.
@@BrotherAlpha It still wouldn't be good. Its still three mana for basically +0 +1 now and a +1+1 counter next turn
@@lancourt It would depend on synergy. If you have effects that double counters and effects that proc on spell casting or permanents leaving the battlefield, then it would be a good piece of that.
I thought I had seen some bad creatures in the Kawigama block, then I found out that Wood Elemental existed.
The artwork on Mold Demon is awesome. Like a crazy nightmare. Also a little bit like Moss Monster.
The creation of the reserved list was one of the biggest mistakes wizards has ever made. It made mtg somewhat of a secondary isolated stock market, when in reality it’s just a trading card game. Which created a huge financial barrier for new players and is the main reason the paper eternal formats are slowly dying.
While I hate the reserve list as well, I could see maybe 50-100 cards being on there for collectable purposes. But the biggest mistake was to include the original dual lands. Duals make every deck better and encourage players to brew more decks. Which means more cards would be sold. But it's never going to be changed so I'm just wasting my breath. Lol
Alpha cards were not reprinted in Chronicles; it was just a selection of cards from Arabian Nights, Antiquities, Legends, and The Dark. Likewise 4th Edition used cards from these expansions to fill gaps created in the base set by the removal of cards that Wizards considered too broken after unlimited and revised, like the moxen, and the dual lands (they did this prior to the reserve list's implementation). The notion that these sets "tanked" the value of the alpha set is pretty dubious. What really happened is that collectors got upset that cards that had incredibly inflated prices due to scarcity, not playability, lost value on the secondary market (The printing of Legends, for example sold out almost immediately, and Wizards didn't do unlimited printings at the time). So it was really that people who had been lucky enough to snag Legends packs or boxes, were mad that cards like the original Elder Dragon Legends, which were pretty much unplayable under the regular ruleset, had a price correction that reflected their value as game pieces. I would argue that the Chronicles, for all the flak that it gets from people, probably helped the nascent EDH variant, because it made the Elder Dragons, and multicolor legendary creatures in general, available to the playerbase at large. Legendary creatures were thin on the ground for a good while after Legends and the Chronicles reprints, and multicolor ones even more so.
You know, I can't stand the idea of the reserved list. Cards are toys, not stocks. They absolutely shouldn't be treated like an investment. It's a shame that they couldn't remove the list even if they wanted to because of Hasbro bullshit. An Alpha Birds of Paradise is still $3000 despite it being reprinted to hell. But even if it did tank, I don't care. Maybe it's my Yu-Gi-Oh background where there's no reserved list and all cards tank in value after a while. Blue-Eyes White Dragon from the first set is ~$40, and it's the most expensive card from there.
It also makes Vintage basically unplayable since you absolutely need the Mox and the Power 9 unless you want to try manaless Dredge. Speaking of, do "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)."
👆 Hear hear!
The vintage problem couldn't really be solved because, even if the reserved list didn't exist, there's no way in hell Wizards would reprint the power 9 in new sets.
@@leof.2695 Meh, I'd be fine with them reprinting the power 9 in new sets. Would make the format cheaper to get into.
@@leof.2695 I could see them printing it in an ultra premium product, like as an ultimate masters box topper thing, or a super expensive secret lair, or a from the vault style thing
Try telling that to a lawyer. Also wizards takes advantage of an overpriced secondary market all the time, like the fetchlands, so prices wouldn't go down that much even if they were reprinted in something like a secret lair.
No Sorrow's Path? I was expecting it at #1, though the expansion hosers are pretty terrible, too.
I was going to be all like "that's not on the Reserved List" but holy shit, they did actually print that piece of crap as a rare. On the other hand, I think there are some real decks that actually make use of it (not good decks, but real ones) by giving it to your opponent and then tapping it to repeatedly boardwipe them.
The lore behind golgothian cylex is pretty sweet though!
Too bad it's on such an unplayable card :( If it was a board wipe Oblivion Stone or something would be really sweet
Seeing how Urza got it and used it in the novel "The Brothers War" was pretty interesting as well... apparently he got it (indirectly) from Ashnod...
@@alyssinwilliams4570 ashnod didnt create it, she just got her hands on it
@@raze956 I didnt say she created it, I just said URza got it from her indirectly (via Tawnos)
@@alyssinwilliams4570 i am aware. but the unsuspecting reader, who doesnt know the brothers war, could think so.
Note: City in a Bottle is HUGE in Old School. There is a long discussion about errata or restricting/banning it in New England Old School every couple months.
Y'know, if you just use mystic might's ability on upkeep and then let it die to the cumulative upkeep cost, you did basically get +4/+4 for 3 mana over 2 turns. Still not good, but not the worst deal, really.
I love it! And if you cast it on an Ice Floe, it's +4/+4 for only 1 mana!!!
This was great. I think I'd watch 56 more videos covering all 567 cards.
I use elder spwan in my Zedruu edh It`s pretty funny to drop it in with haste hit for 6 then give it away to someone without islands.
The best use for City in a Bottle is to side it in against the red player who's showing off by running Arabian Nights mountains.
But sadly, you can't even do that anymore, as they changed these cards to affect cards originally printed in the expansion, rather than by expansion symbol.
i wonder if an 'ashaya, soul of the wild' EDH deck could potentially make wood elemental work? it would have to be a very casual game with friends, but would still be funny none the less.
I'd actually like to see the price of the cards in all your videos. It would be interesting to see how their success or failure affects the price, other factors (like being on the RL) notwithstanding.
0:52 Translated from Nizzahon’s very civil, charitable, and polite summation:
“Because players, way back in 1996, were being basic bitches about reprints.”
How much use wood Wood Elemental get if you could sacrifice tapped Forests as well?
I'm so glad the power 9 has such good art. Can you imagine someone asking what the most powerful card in the 25 plus years of mtg is and you show them the art for wood elemental
How i feel about force of will
The reserved list exists because many would rather see their ship sink in greed than give up some of their gold.
The game (which can include the sub formats upon which it is played) will one day die due to cost of entry. With less and less players entering a format, the real value of cards legal to that format sinks less and less.
Those 16 people running Wood Elemental definitely need their head examined... I keep trying to think of build-arounds to it and I don't know why. You could play black/red/green and have damage be dealt when permanents are sacrificed, like Mayhem devil and others, but then you kind of need to trust the wood elemental to finish the game if you can and in a deck that runs a bunch of colors, you still need a large number of Forests specifically. Even if you have something like Multani to get them back out or a Crucible of Worlds, it still seems like you're setting yourself so far back just to have a creature that's probably not huge and also didn't end the game.
The art for Mold Demon XD
Can we take a minute to talk about the artwork on Mold Demon? I love that splashy art style
I bought a copy for the artwork alone. One of the best in MTG. And now that I have the card, I will use it in my upcoming Fungus Tribal deck :)
sylex is good because antiquities has a lot of busted cards, but city is best because it's a static effect.
surprised sorrow's path wasn't on this list. a land that doesn't tap for mana and that pyroclasms your board in order to do things is just awful.
Maybe it escaped the list by being in meme decks where people donate it to the opponents and tap it down
I play it in an edh deck where I want to pyroclasm my board repeatedly and sorrow's path can be good there. It would be the best land in the deck if I could use it whenever instead of only being able to use it when someone's blocking someone with at least 2 creatures :/
City in a Bottle is extremely strong in 93/94 formats, so it’s way better than all other cards on this list. Apocalypse Chime should have been alone on top.
Nizzahon was particularly inspired in this video. It's a lot of fun XD
I love these videos so much no joke. They’re so interesting, especially this one.
You know what's funny? Even to this day, hearing Mystic Mine gives me hardcore flashbacks because in YuGiOh it is an absurdly unfun stun card.
Cycle of life actually has some usefulness, you can use it on 0/0 creatures like spike feeder, or pair it with enchantress effects. Still a pretty weak card tho
also fun on kobold tribal
Theros Constellation effects.
Aegis meaning:
the protection, backing, or support of a particular person or organization..
Could also mean a shield like you said. But for the card on this list I believe it does make sense 🤔
I have been waiting for this episode for years! Ever since I restarted my card-by-card review of the reprintability of The Reserved List card, No Reservations II: magicseteditor.boards.net/board/18/mtg-lounge?q=no+reservations+
Mercenaries is a great example of how strict the colour pie could be in Ice Age... White wasn't supposed to get a 3/3 for 3W without a downside, because it had weenies and anthems. Fortunately it also had Swords!
Also, Wood Elemental is now $38, good lord. I think it might be a nice awful Jank card in decks that want to sac lands (and this is an openly bad way to sac lands for almost no payoff), but that justifies a $2 price tag, maybe.
The reserve list: the worst and most enduring of Wizards' knee-jerk reactionary decisions!
thanks for putting card prices.
Wood Elemental has it's place in EDH decks where scaficing lands get's you value. Gitrog, the mono green that makes 5/3 tokens when lands are blown up. Besides have four left over after casting Wood Elemental is enough for Splendid reclamation the turn after.
It isn't worth it in Gitrog. It draws you one card for a 5 mana 1/1. Titania isn't worth it either. There are too many cards way better in both those decks for it to ever be played. It is terrible, even in those dexks.
Top 10 Timewtisters
Just when I was starting to catch up to these today. A top 10 best themed cards would be cool.
mold demon has some pretty bitchin art
"Hello everyone it's Wednesday and that means..." - Wait, you're not Nizzahon ?!
For the expansion, hate cards, do those that were reprinted in other sets count? I can understand how maybe something that was printed in 4th or 5th edition might not be part of this, but what about those printed in chronicles?
Mystic might actually works kinda nice with the new enchantment commander from baulders gate
I actually saw 4 near mint city in the bottle for like $50 one time in a LGS about 15 years ago lol .Man I wish I had scooped them up .Cant believe that is a $400 card now.
Wood Elemental is actually good in one EDH deck. Titania, Protector of Argoth. She loves to sacrifice lands. If you have 7 forests, you make a 3/3 wood elemental and 4 5/3 elementals.
What about a card that hates on cards originally printed in Alfa?
Sometimes I like to guess which cards make a list before watching. But I am not actually sure which cards are on Reserved List, or even if some of those cards are not rare. If any of the Bands with legends lands are Reserved List then I think they might make it and if any of the prevent specific landwalk ability enchantments from Legends are as well then those too.
Obviously Wood Elemental makes the list (LOL).
I would put Shelkin Brownie on the list as well (but it is not rare and quite probably is not on the Reserved List). Sure against top decks and players Shelkin Brownie is quite possible a 2 mana chump blocker and much better than anything Wood Elemental could be against those decks and players. But in my personal subjective criteria and ranking terrible cards are likely being played against other weird, bad, under-powered, poorly constructed cards, decks and players and in that scenario Wood Elemental has the theoretical potential of becoming a 5/5 or 6/6 or something and doing something if the opponent has no or cannot find hard removal. Shelkin Brownie on the other hand basically doesn't amount to anything other than perhaps dealing the last one or two points of unblocked damage, which needs something quite remarkable to actually happen (well maybe that's is better best case, hmmm).
Having some thoughts on the matter, but I still think I think Shelkin Brownie is worse than Wood Elemental though.
Wood Excremental is definitely a Number 2
if i had ti my way all cards on the reserve list would be banned in all formats , even vintage . why? because if they will not ever reprint it then it should not be usable and left to the collectors since thats the real purpose of the list. it exists to artificially prop up card values.
Reverberate and Fork have one difference. Fork is on the Reserve List
The copy created by Fork is red while the copy created by Reverberate is the same as the original spell.
Oh, boy. Time to see all 10 of these on the next Market Watch as buyouts because reserved list cards got mentioned.
Seriously, Wizards, just do away with that list already. There's not even a legal issue holding you to it, and the 2 people who'd be mad at it kinda deserve what they'd lose (talking about you, Alpha Investments, using the list to drive prices up to 4 digits).
if you think rudy is behind these prices you are a moron. You are probably just jealous of his collection
Lol, pretty sure Wood Elemental is strictly a Titania finisher piece as a cmc4 sacrifice outlet for your lands so you can get in with 5/3s. It is still horrible though, and I hate that it doesn't allow you to use your lands that you want to sacrifice because it basically wastes your entire turn to pull off.
#1 cards (apart from Apocalypse Chime) are good sideboard in Old School.
Veldrane of Sengir look like a pirate David Bowie
I thought "rarer" was not a word. It is. Glad I looked that up.
Wood Elemental might finally be playable with Ashaya, since nontoken creatures you control are also Forests
It can sac itself to become a 1/1 now! (Probably the best thing you can do with the guy)
An Aegis is also a goats fur and that's where it comes from etymologicaly.
I was guessing sylex would be played the most out of that cycle due to Urza flavor decks
Does Legends have any good creatures?
I don't know about "good", but here's the ones I consider the best having looked through a list of them all and seeing what was in the top decks at 1994 worlds: Fallen Angel - decent priced flier that can hit for the kill fast in a token deck, Gwendlyn Di Corci (not just the art) - difficult to cast, but reasonable stats for the cost and an amazing ability, Hell's Caretaker - repeatable reanimation for no additional mana and a reasonable upfront cost, Ichneumon Druid - wasn't good when it was printed, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in Vintage sideboards against Storm, Rabid Wombat - was good in Enchantress decks, Rubinia Soulsinger - you pretty much will always have the opponent's best creature, Sol'kanar the Swamp King - actually decent size for his cost (unlike most Legends in the set) with two reasonable positive abilities, Spinal Villain - narrow effect, but absolutely brutal against the right opponent and was in the sideboard of a T4 deck at 1994 Worlds, Time Elemental - not all that much worse than Temporal Adept, which was played in constructed, and was in Zak Dolan's 1994 World Champion deck, Whirling Dervish - the only other creature in Legends to make the final match in 1994 worlds in the second place deck, and contributed to winning the first game.
It’s a power move to beat somebody with wood elementals though.
Unfortunately, the playlist didnt appear on screen..
reserve list is basically to appease people who "collect" cards, rather than actually play... kind of some BS.
Actually some of the ones you listed as top 1 (set hate) see some play in old school cube.
I was stunned there were not one but three cards worse than wood elemental in this list. XD
I really expected to see Wood Elemental at number 1...I still think of it as the worst card ever printed from a power perspective. At least City in a Bottle can deal with City of Brass, Bazaar of Baghdad, Library of Alexandria, or to a lesser extent, Juzam Djinn, Ernham Djinn, or Desert Twister. And Apocalypse Chime can deal with Merchant Scroll, Ihsan's Shade, or Didgeridoo.
Apocalypse Charm has to be a bottom 10 card of all time. There are what, two playable permanents from Homelands? Three at most? This isn't hitting a damn thing. At least City in a Bottle and Golgothian Sylex can randomly hose some powerful lands.
I get city in a bottle from am EDH perspective is not a good card, but in another format (93/94) it is an almost automatic sideboard inclusion, which is why it is asking for such a ridiculously higher price tag compared to it´s antiquities version. So calling it the top 1 worst card on the reserve list is a bit much. IT also see´s quite a bit of vintage play.
Sorrow's Path is my pick. I have about 70 of them
Wood Elemental is probably played in EDH in decks that want to put their lands into the graveyard.
It shouldn't ve
I was sure Sorrow's Path was going to be #1. Though, I do kind of want to put one in a Zedruu deck, for shits and/or giggles
It's not bad in an enrage edh deck
The people playing these cards are most likely meme lords and theur decks are probably just giant shitposts
I think the number 1 cards on this list are somewhat playable. Sure, they're absolutely terrible in the average case, but their success case is good enough to make it into some sideboards. I feel like worst lists should have cards that are completely unthinkable to ever even seriously consider for any real competitive deck. Maybe Nizzahon is imagining like if there were a cube of every card every made, and then his number 1 cards would be the absolutely last cards picked.
Idk I think Arabian nights has more powerful cards than antiquities. It has only like workshop transmute artifact and power artifact su chi and like 1 other card where nights has juza dinner library of Alexandria bazaar of Baghdad. Serimdeb ferret the 3 mana 3/4 flier. Drop of honey diamond valley. So it’s closer than ya think ohhh and calendabra of towands is as in antiquities.
It depends very much on what format you are playing.
Farmstead is decent in one of my decks with specific commander
Mold Demon looks badass
It is so and sweet, I bought it for the artwork, and plan to include it in my upcoming fungus tribal EDH deck.
A lot of mtg content creators are talking about the reserved list. I never really paid any attention till now
Mystic Might is actually not bad. At worse, it is a color-pie-breaking sorcery with rebound that gives +2/+2 for a mana cost of 1U. With the upside of rebounding it a couple more turns if you have lots of mana. This is more playable than most blue combat tricks we see every set and certainly better than many cards not on this list.
It isn't a combat trick at all.
@@NizzahonMagic I didn't say it is. I said it's more playable than most of them (with the implied meaning that I'd rather have this as my 23rd draft card than something like Rookie Mistake).
@@zaclock-4228 I would take Rookie Mistake every time. Mystic Might will basically never trade for a card - you are going down a card for a really erratic chance at damage. Rookie Mistake isn't very good, but can at least trade more consistently.
they should make a hoser for Modern Horizons 1 and 2
I remember ripping farmstead and being so sad, lol
Because the best defense, is a good offense! *shades*
i want to see 10 best cards of all time
Unless the power 9 are excluded it would just be them plus one more card
@@steveneaddy5298 would they have more points? even though they're banned or restricted in every format
I’m pretty sure Island would be on that list
2:27, really? That's literally 25% of the video (25.17%)
Good math I guess?
Where’s Sorrow’s Path?
Wood Elemental just HAS to be the worst card ever... like EVER
I have an Italian Wood Elemental and I simply can't believe it is not #1.
Edit: ... I also have a City in a Bottle. Jesus, I have to sell that thing.
i would wait a bit the recent price spikes should make it even more expensive pretty soon
I don't care what you have as number one, it is Wood Elemental, there is not a single reason or way ever or how that card will be useful in any deck EVER. FUCK Wood Elemental.
I believe they need revise the reserved list. Their severall examples along your topped him here that show that certain cards may be removed. Like number 2, That's just adding fluff To reserve list. And when you start adding fluff to something it's no longer really reserved. In this top 10 you did there is really no power in the cards you show.
bwahaha city in a bottle is an automatic side board inclusion in 93/94 and some even run it maindeck, and it is played quite a bit in vintage too. If you can make it in vintage you need to be really good, and 93/94 is a format that has quite the punch too, with all the power being legal and whatnot.