How The Boeing 797 Competes With Airbus A321XLR
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2022
- Boeing has had plans for a New Midsize Airplane (NMA), for some time. Development of this aircraft, presumed to be designated the 797, has been put on hold. But with the launch of the popular Airbus A321XLR, Boeing needs something to compete. What could a new 797 look like?
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I feel like Boing missed out on something that airbus was able to do: FORESIGHT. Boeing didnt think they needed to come up with a new plane. They were too confident that what they had was enough.
Which is paradoxical because they had they foresight to ditch the 747 at the perfect time to transition.
The A321neo is no foresight or a new model, just a result of the luck that the A320 is a much larger base design than the 737 -- more potential.
They wanted to, but big important (737-) customers and the A320neo forced them into the MAX.
@@widget787 Boeing wanted to but didn't mean they could. The idea was to get Y2 (a.k.a. 787) out of the market, and use the tech to radically change Y1.
But the problem was they're burnt by various issues during the 787 development, that they simply couldn't design a significantly better cleansheet from ground up.
And Airbus knew this. They also knew how far their A320 could go, after years of continuous improvement on the product. So at the point A321LR/XLR is launched there’s simply no difference to the base A321NEO other than fuel tanks and flaps, but compare that to A321-100 in early 1990s you'll see how far they’ve gone.
"Downfall: the case against Boeing", the Netflix documentary gives great insight on why Boeing has been behind the curve for quite some time now. A real good watch if you enjoy aviation.
I like how Airbus gave full focus on the A320 family continuous development throughout the past years.
Come 2035 Airbus will be introducing a hydrogen powered replacement for the A320 family. Boeing are still playing catch-up to the A321xlr which has been coming down the pike for 5 years now.
I think Boeing needs to find a replacement for the 737. Actually, what Airbus did was to create a design capable of covering a large range of the market with the A320 family, Boeing needs to do the same so they don't have to deal with the problem of several supply chains for multiple family of aircrafts.
There is probably no room while trying to establish 737max over A320neo and keeping customers for 777x in the near future. Tough job for Boeing.
@@netopir3804 it's true... but they have to look far in the future because at some point there will no more room for any 737 upgrade... it's like Boeing keeps applying the same recipe and spect a different result
@@hernancho007 I totally agree that they need to come up with a unified family concept with a composite lightweight frame and more efficient engines that replaces the 737s… but do they have the capacity? And the guts to cancel 757 and 767? It just seems, they stick to the past…
I concur with the multiple and complex supply chain. That may be part of the reason why the building of the 787 was so complex and difficult because there were too many parties involved in making parts for the 787 around the world. Not everything is about reducing costs if Boeing were run by engineers like it was in the 60s and seventies it would do better than if it were run by Bean counters as it is today.
I don't think Boeing's got the money for a new 737. That train left about 8 years ago. That's also why there's no 797.
I think it is too late for Boeing... Airbus is much more further at this moment... Boeing has to think a " brand new idea"
If 797 is twin aisle>> never compete A321XLR on fuel burn/ trip
Boeing can beat the A321XLR with a twin aisle new 767 class with a Truss brassed wing
Why not a twin-aisle like Airbus did with the A310 in the past?
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Too heavy
Advantage : 767 cross section/ 2-3-2 more efficient et more comfortable 👍
@@ndlben7129 The 767-200 and the A310 had some differences (the 310 was wider).
What I'm looking for in the WB option is a 2-3-2 config with also capacity of carrying LD3 containers.
A 7 abreast all composite small twinaisle could easily compete with the A321XLR. Problem is when Airbus re-wings the A321 they would get a lead.
The big problem of the A321XLR is its wing.
I'm seeing a downward spiral here. Losses means no money for new aircraft, leads to uncompetitive updates of existing aircraft, leads to lower sales versus Airbus, leads to more losses, leads to...
Boeing shouldn't try to compete with Airbus. What they should is focus on their quality, cost reductions, new technologies, research, and at the end build a nice aircraft that's innovative like the 787.
Boeing already behind in the race with airbus and this would continue for this decade , Boeing should launch an alternative fuel based aircraft targeting narrow body and middle of the market capacities with a single design
Alternative fuel is a scam
787-3 makes sense to me
Engine and fuel improvements will come along as well
Not to mention two corridors.
@@claymag9803 The best part, single aisle aircraft are torture! 😪
I don’t think so as the original 787-3 design would’ve been the complete opposite of the A321LR or XLR or the middle of the market in general.
It’s not a small aircraft for long flights but instead a big aircraft for short flights.
As said the 787-3 is FAR from a ideal XLR competitor as this airplane is more or less the opposite.
Apart from that the 787-3 was a bad seller for a reason: a LOT less range than the -8 but just as heavy and no other advantages except the shorter wingspan.
The smallest 787 weights a lot more than twice as much as the A321neo ...
The 757 reimagined would be the best competitor to a a321xlr because it's a little bigger but still falls in the same size category meaning airlines would have an easier time fitting them at congested gate areas. An updated 767-200 would work too but call it the 767-800 would work too tho it would likely have a larger wingspan requiring more gate space but the benefit would be a short widebody with two aisles that can be boarded and deplaned quickly, and fly all the routes of the a321xlr and a little further for lesser operating costs. I would love to see the 757 come back to the arena but because tooling and suppliers have been dismantled I think the best bet for Boeing would be a 767-800. Basically an updated 767-200. Improved high lift wings, larger more efficient turbofans and more use of lighter composites and downsized flight computers. The cockpit has already been updated. It's the cheapest and fastest option for Boeing at this point.
Has to be 757x or +. It would be the best competitor. It would probably get loads of orders too. Should also have cockpit commonality.
Always thought a 757neo would be the best option. Love that aircraft so much!!
I am a huge fan of the 757 and a 757X would be a killer but unfortunately: the 757 is gone, no way to bring it back. To re-install production would be almost as complex and expensive as building a whole new airplane.
@@widget787 I’m afraid you’re right, it seems unlikely that Boeing will start a new production line for it, especially now.
Boeing should have offered upraged variants like the 737 family.
I think Boeing should develop an aircraft similar to the 767 - in size to accomodate about 250 passengers. For longer flights, I believe that 2 aisles in a, 2+3+2 configuration are more comfortable. Range should be up to about 10'000 km. Any way the new plane should not just "imitate" the A321XLR - but offer more advantages for airlines and passengers. With the A321XLR, we somehow go back to the era prior to widebody jets.
airbus makes one of the most practical aeroplanes
I think it's worth trying a 737-10. Maybe the further stretch could mean it's less efficient, but it's cheap to develop, and doesn't require retraining pilots, so airlines can keep relative fleet commonality. The 321XLR is already going to be like this, so a new aircraft might not compete as well as they think.
I hope its a all new design like no other aircrafts seen before
797, there is no such thing. I am beginning to think Boeing has no desire to release new plans when there are 60 year old designs that are shoved down our throats. Air Bus is eating Boeings lunch ,dinner and breakfast.
What I hope the 797 looks like: (1) Long narrowbody with primary boarding and deplaning through L2 door to control gate time. (2) Cabin width 9-12 inches wider than a 737 or 757 to allow each seat to be 1.5-2 inches wider, but narrow enough to prevent airlines from stuffing a seventh column of seats into the Y cabin. (3) Space bins (or equivalent) standard, ensuring all passenger rollaboards fit with no gate checks. (4) Three sizes: A 757-300 size, a 757-200 / MAX 9 / MAX 10 size, and a MAX 8 size, (5) Range allowing scheduled 4,500nm missions, even against the wind, to truly enable mid market lengths. The 797 then can soak up orders for BOTH 757 replacements AND, in time, 737 MAX replacements, with a single R&D, single parts supply and type rating for both -- something Boeing needs to keep up with the Airbus A320 family. And with a PaxEx (19.3+ inch wide Y seats, bin space for all) that will leap Boeing ahead of Airbus for even the densest ULCCs.
Let's get the 787 deliveries moving again to get some cash flow and get the 777X closer to certification before worrying about about a 797 clean build.
Boeing used to be able to do many things at once. They need to prove they can do one thing right before they try multitasking again.
Nice answer
Hopefully Boeing actually listens to the designers and not the stock holders this time
The NMA (797) and NSAA (737 replacement) could be combined into one airplane.
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I think the 737 replacement should be slightly smaller, targeting A220 and A320. Boeing has no answer for the small segment at all and they need one. Then you have room for a dedicated midsize that starts around Max-10 capacity and goes up to 767-300 numbers. Perhaps a smaller widebody, like 767 size which passengers would love. The 737 class is already spread thin, being too fat at the lower end (Max-7 and A319 are unpopular) and really pushing it at the high end. I think the new narrow body should be laser targeted on low-cost carriers like Southwest and Ryanair who want something a little smaller but ultra economical.
With that, Boeing would have an ultra-competitive lineup all the way from the bottom through to 787 size. Right now the 787 is good, 737 is in a tie, and they're getting beaten up or not present everywhere else.
This would be possible but only with two sets of wings. With one wing only either the smaller versions would be overweight or the bigger one not capable enough.
Problem would be that Boeing would have nothing in the below 180 seats market. The Embraer E2 would have fit that more or less ...
@@widget787 Could the Mitsubishi SpaceJet or the CRJ fit that position?
Could Boeing not build a new narrowbody to replace the 737 Max but designed from the start so the same airframe when stretched can also be the NMA
NSAA+NMA combined in a single product.
Possible with two different sets of wings.
If Boeing are wise they would re-engine and tweak the 757 but seeing as allegedly all the plans and assembly equipment were destroyed when production ended the next possible option is to alter the 767 as this is currently still in production.
A design close to the 767-200ER would be a winner for airlines I think. Gives them plenty of flexibility in terms of range for low capacity mid - long and even ultra long haul routes.
Also having a double aisle would speed up boarding and disembarking turning the aircraft around quicker.
The 767-200 is a bad Idea as it was the unloved, too heavy shrink. Its way too heavy to compete against the A321XLR, but a 767X sized between the -300 and -400 would be a Winner. Not to compete against the XLR but to offer something in that 767 market segment where there is no real replacement in sight.
@@widget787 I doubt Boeing would produce anything capacity wise between the 767- 300 & 400 as the 787-8 would cover that.
The 737 MAX 10 capacity is roughly what airlines want as it’s similar to the A321XLR, just the 737 MAX 10 has no where near the range the A321XLR has.
A close design to the 767-200 with a carbon fuselage, carbon wings would offer an alternative to the A321XLR. Boeing is still receiving feedback from airlines in what they want from this aircraft.
@Sebastian Floyd never said anything else ... Still Airlines start to replace their 757-300s with A321neo because there are no other options ... Replacement does not always have to be 1:1.
@@samjones3434 the 797 that they canceled when the MAX debacle came and COVID hit was exactly the size of the A330-200 and A330-300 ... There is a market for a 10 hour 220-250 seat airplane.
The 767-200 is too heavy compared to the A321.
one thing for sure: boeing is late! and forget about x versions, they need something new from that point,to compete 321xlr
Boeing could make a 757max with upgraded engines. The 757 was and is indeed a good NMA!
Would it have a side stick?
I am still wondering why 787-8 is not a competitor to A321XLR, since it doesn't has to be a narrow body for the same requirement.
Boeing has lagged so far behind that they need a lot of work done to keep relevant. Between the 777x and 787 they have the long haul market secured pretty well. The 737 is long in the tooth and as much as I love the old girl, it’s time for something new. Ideally they’d follow airbus’ lead and design a versatile aircraft that would cover the demand of both the 737 and 757 and effectively compete with airbus A320 family. I also think that they need to think long and hard of designing a short haul regional jet to compete with the A220, CRJs and Embraer. It’s an entire market that they have ignored, and one that has flourished in the recent market. Boeing has reached a critical point where they need to rectify these short comings or risk falling further behind.
Boeing aka. Mcdonnell Douglas version 2, will probably come out with yet another rushed design, that will cost a lot of human lives. Profits over lives, seems to be their motto.
The 787-3 seems like the best option rather than a 757X
A 787-3 is the complete opposite of the 757-200
I think It should look something in between the 737-787-777
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This is something I'm kind of surprised that not a lot of people are talking about, which is the hypothetical re-engined B757/B767. How would the public view about this if Boeing announced a re-engined 757/767?
Granted, for us aviation enthusiasts, that would be cool to see these classic work horses with new engines and wings, and given a new breath of life. But think about it. Boeing has damaged their reputation during the 737MAX crisis, and people lost a lot of faith in them when they started digging into their past. And given the amount of delays the 777X has been facing, some people are weary about the plane entering service. So, how would the general public feel if Boeing announced another updated 757/767, given their damaged reputation?
Just food for thought
99% of the travelers won't care what plane they're flying on as long as the tickets are cheap, that's the sad truth.
The vast majority of the population don't even know about the 737MAX scandal.
Boeing has no other choice than building a new airplane to compete with the A321XLR as the 757 would be the only airplane more or less in that size/weight category. But the 757 has gone, no way they could re-install production at reasonable cost. But: a 757X would have been a killer.
Boeing should concentrate on the 767 market first IMO, the market segment where there is no 1:1 replacement so far and where Airbus has nothing to offer. A 767X with GENx engines would do the trick midterm, but simultaneously they should start to work on a real NMA.
Rumors are that the current plan is a 757-300 sized narrowbody. Later on a shorter variant - most likely with a smaller wing - could replace the larger 737MAX variants and compete with the A32Xneo.
No way the 787 could compete against the A321XLR, this airplane (the -8) weighs more than twice as much as the A321neo. With a new smaller wing and wingbox it would be a good 767 replacement but not ideal. The 787-3 is nothing worth revisiting, it was much less capable but had almost the same weight as the -8.
By the way I think that the 757-300 sized NMA should rather be a 7 abreast airplane instead of a Narrowbody. More Cargo capability, shorter Boarding Times and more popular with passengers.
The advantage of a Narrowbody Design is lower weight and the ability to offer both wings, the one of the NMA and the one of the smaller NMA 737 replacement, on both models.
Boeing just needs to launch a safe and qualitative plane. It would be a huge improvement compared to the last years.
You are right on that Boeing's reputation has been tornished hence they need to win people's trust again if they needed to get back on feet again 😑
What Boeing will probably do is build the 797 to replace the 757. But use a lot of the designs components of the 797 in the 737 replacement so parts are very much interchangeable.
It seems to me that is 757 re-engining program would be a non-starter because most of them are very old and have too many cycles. New airframes would have to be built. An updated 767 sounds like a really good idea especially if it could be made out of composites. A small 787 would also be a good idea, but how do you get Airlines to order the smallest variant in a family? There are several examples where the smallest variant in a family received poor orders such as the a318 the 737,600 and there is no modern version of the 777-200 to replace it.
Don't care if it is single or dual aisle that I'm flying as long there's 18 inches of seat width, ample leg room and get me to my destination safely... and STRICTLY no nose diving experience!
One thing. I believe the Max -10 will be Boeing's last B737 model ever. They need to put the B737 behind them.
What would be better to compete against Airbus than and plane everyone already knows and loves. The 757 or 787 reworked to compete with the 321 Neo XLR. You don’t need a whole new plane, you need to offer familiarity and reliability as well as a lower purchase price. That way everyone wins.
797 must have duel front doors ! 787 engines and larger wings ! 225 pax to 300 wide body ! With larger cargo capacity !
Boeing needs to put the 777/787 debacles behind them. Does this mean launch the 797 by 2024? Not if there’s more delays.
Name of background track?
Airbus is so far ahead of Boeing. They develop new technologies and mind their own bussines while Boeing use 40 years old frame from 737 which they already squeezed everything what is possible from that frame. Airbus are thinking more clear. They are only compete with themselves to reach new heights.
Most of their aircraft are pimped as well, only the A350 is a new design.
@@widget787 it’s called future safe
I think by the time Boeing is ready to start developing and brings to market such an aircraft, it would be too late to go toe-to-toe with the A321XLR. They should still do it, and it should be some 767-200X, but I don’t see it being as successful as some claim, unless this market grows and becomes the dominant market in the years to come. Boeing should sort out its ongoing problems and focus on revisiting that Project Yellowstone 737 replacement that was axed in favour of the MAX. With that, they can develop a flexible, adaptable aircraft family platform, that can go head-to-head with the A320 Family replacement.
The 767-200 is a uneffizient shrink. A size between the 767-300 and -400 would be ideal.
For short term response to the market a B787 mini (787-5 and -6) would be ideal, cheap and efficient.
Efficient? No, not really. The 787-8 is already pretty short and further shrinking it would have more disadvantages than it has benefits. Basing it off the 767 would be a better solution
if it ain't broke... don't fix it... just improve what you already have out there...
Airbus' head start means Boeing is trailing in the wake vortex.
Bring back the 757. It'd stop Airbus in its tracks.
Boeing had plans for a New Midsize Airplane (NMA), however, Airbus has more than plans, it is actually working on a new plane.
797 was effectivly confirmed when the 787 was presented.. because that is how numbers work.
The quesiton is really what 797 would be.
Yes, Boeing 797, ready to be fighting the A320 XLR in....when will that be? When the A320 is about to become a legacy airframe or thereabouts...Boeing missed their slot to place a worthy competitor, and they trippled down on the decision by now. They are up for a really hard time...can't say they didn't ask for it though.
Completely agree, they have missed a chance and now they are stuck with a small and troubled catalog of aircraft: just the infamous 737MAX variants for narrobodies, and the currently paralyzed 787 and continuously delayed 777X for widebodies (excluding the 767 that doesn't produce passenger variants anymore).
Comparatively, Airbus has a much more extensive and reliable catalog, ranging from the small A220 all the way to the A350 and everything in between.
Is going to be better
Boeing should come up with a new plane and focus on what the market needs, engage with there customers grow relationships which they have lost to Airbus.
They should just skip on up to the 808💥💨!
Boeing probably ought to skip ahead to what will replace the 737-MAX and A321XLR because they already missed the boat on that. They've already lost an entire generation of new sales.
In my opinion, the pandemic catalysed the path for success of the A321 XLR.
Personally I think single aisle aircrafts should only serve short to medium haul routes around 5500km to 6000km which up to maximum 7hrs flight time. Seating for 2 classes around 200 to 220 seats.
6000km is way above 8 hours, at least westbound.
@@widget787 so around 5500km then
I don't think it would be possible to restart the 757 it would still take years to bring back and cost millions. the 767 isn't a great option either, yes it still exists but new engines, newly designed wing and a weight reduction e.g. using composites would be required. I think the 737 has reached its limit in terms of upgrades especially after the max debacle. Its quite possible we won't see the 797 be announced for some time and that the 797 will probable be an aircraft to compete with the entire a320 e.g. fits the a320 and a321 market
I feel like 757x or 757max all the way. or maybe that's because I love the plane. I fell the same with the 767
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A 767X seems likelier
Lately it seems Boeing thinks of launching new aircrafts only when Airbus launches a new one. Instead of always competing with its rival, Boeing should give importance to its innovative approach and should be able to analyse the market better.
Shrink the 787, add a extra fuel tank and BOOM 🤯 , you gotta 797 jet that can compete with the A-321XLR
The 787-8 is already comparably short, further shrinking it has more disadvantages than benefits
They need to replace 737 and make new 797
The time to respond to the A320 was when it was 10-15 years old, not when it will be forty years old and Airbus can respond to anything Boeing designs with something new and incrementally better, while selling every A320/21 they can build in the interim. Boeing, for years my favorite airframer, is courting irrelevance. With their current low-risk, low-investment philosophy, it's really hard to see a path forward for them.
Boeing wanted to modernize the 737NG in a much more radical way but big and important customers prevented them. Same with the MAX, where Boeing wanted to build a new design.
Being an entire model cycle behind your competitor is not where you want to be. In any other industry; cars, computers, phones, white goods you name it; if you are 10 years out of date you are dead. Literally, the only thing that saves Boeing is that Airbus just can't produce enough planes to fill the whole market. And if you buy Boeing, everyone knows you are cheap and will settle for second best, like Ryan Air.
@@widget787 There are reasons why customers didn’t want a cleansheet. Let’s face it, the tech for a radically better aircraft is not yet available. If a Y1 doesn’t worth the extra bucks they're of course not going to pay for it.
Plus, A32XNEO was already there. 737 customers wouldn't to wait a decade for a cleansheet and let their competitors beat them in cost. That’s not going to happen. They want something they could bounce bad, in time.
Simply put, Boeing is too late, too little in the game.
Would it be possible Boeing could just build a mini version of the 787 and call it a 797 🤔🤷🏽♂️😂
By inventing fuel tank safety issues???
The Migthy Boeing 757 or 767 its the Best Plane for the Nma...The Technology is there Already for Boeing...
How about a lighter and re-engined 767-200? With new materials and avionics and so on for a similar seat/mile fuel economy as 321XLR
By now this seems like one of the better solutions or options Boeing has!
Whatever Boeing decides to do, it has to be fuel efficient and environmentally friendly to compete and also attract customers. I’ve flown in the 757 many times, it’s a great bird, and so is the 767. They will both be missed once they are all retired, but change is inevitable.
Rocket powered or bust
757
maybe fix the current issues with the current planes and worry about the future later that should help
TERRIBLE decision by Boeing management retiring the 757… that airplane could have EASILY been re engined and updated to compete. Boring is so lost.
You do realize that the last 757 was delivered in 2005 and that the demand for long haul narrow bodies only reappeared around 2017, right? You don’t simply keep the production line of an aircraft open for 12 years, that would be ridiculous.
What Boeing 797???
757 aircraft Boeing
Boeing executives are too busy manipulating stock prices and giving themselves bonuses to think about developing products.
I think a 757 max or something would be a good investment for rebranding the aging 757, which has similar seating and range capabilities to the a321 XLR. Modernising the aircraft with more efficient engines for example might make an attractive plane.
Boeing 767-100
A 767-200 would already do the job just fine and has pretty much the ideal size.
I think Boe will announce a a new 737 replacement when the sales of the Max temper down or show them some almost decent profit, giving them time and funds to produce and test after its announcement is made.
As for the 757, the answer, as many hv variously suggested time and again, lies right in front of their eyes, which is redevelop what you already hv done.
Well, Boeing should re-engine the magnificent 757 as the "757x" . The 757 is a very versatile aircraft. But, day by day the 757 is disappearing from the skies. Boeing should bring the 757 back 🥲🥲
It unfortunately wouldn’t be just re-engining but ramping up the entire production line from the ground up. That’s the major benefit a 767X would have.
The 757 left production in 2005, there’s hardly any tooling left
A 757ng would be gold
Simply make a shorter 787 !!!
Too heavy
A new 767 with Truss brassed Wing can beat the XLR
The 787-8 is already comparably short, further shrinking it would have more disadvantages than it has benefits
Who cares about the economics for the airlines, how about comfort? A wide body would always be better than a single aisle. Shrink the 787
On a long haul narrow body get the exact same seats as you would get on a widebody, I had many transatlantic and the only difference you really notice is the lack of the second aisle
Definitely a 757X, I think that would compete perfectly against the A321XLR.
Boeing is lost.....old airframes updating again and again, their magic is gone and taken by AIRBUS👍
🤔hmm🤔
757X ✈️
Thats the one they have to bring back.
A 767X would be easier to realize though, 757 production ended in 2005
@@spongebubatz But a 767 would be more expensive to operate than a narrow body especially with the oil gas prices going up.
@@ivanviera4773 the 767 is just one aisle and one seat wider, it’s of no significance at all
@@spongebubatz Does not sound like much but its a wide body plane 16' 6" fuselage. With the gas prices probably going way up with the war i don't see that happening.
i think boeing want build the 797 and airbus build a321xlr the new plane build in 2023, the longest range fly hong Kong to europe
Just re-engine the 757.
It’s not "just re-engine it".
The last 757 left production in 2005, you’d have to ramp up production from the ground up. A possible 767X would be a better solution
707.. occupied ⛔️
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The 797 is the last plane in the 707-797 family for boeing to build, otherwise it will resort to even numbers.
757 program failed because of its high development costs. It sure was a hit among airliners but Boeing barely made profits with the 757 family. Hopefully Boeing devices cheaper manufacturing process for the 757x program
Failed???1,050 had been built for 54 customers with 625 still operating today does not equate to failure. The A 380 and 747-8 are in that group.
Boeing should bring back a better 757 because the problem its that making an All new plane it takes about 6-7 years. 737 has just reach its Max potential its 50 years old. The other thing its that Airbus its working on a new composite wing for the A320 family so the A320's are going to keep getting better.
Let Boeing ENGINEERS rather than ban counters (and ex-Jack Welch disciples) design, build and deliver the new plane.
The fastest and most efficient way is to keep extending the 737, maybe make it taller for bigger engines? It will be cool to see a B737MAX12
What 797? They can’t even get the 787 on schedule and 777x upgrades done, and 737 Max is going to go into history as a nonpareil fiasco. Combined with the KC-46 mediocrity Boeing may have to go into bankruptcy.
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Boeing can beat the A321XLR by a new 767 with a Truss brassed wing