It is my opinion that the Turkish prison _was_ in Turkey, and I say this because not long after Jack and the others left the area, his hat was picked up by a pair of sailors, one Turkish and one Greek.
I know nothing of Caribbean history nor Turkish history, but is it possible a "Turkish Prison" could have been for some reason closer to the Caribbean lol
@@torinjones3221 Turks were definitely a thing, the ottomans were a ruling dynasty, the name for the imperial state centred on turkey. English, for that reason, tended to refer to Muslims, near and middle easterners and north Africans as "Turks" interchangeably, so it was certainly a word that meant something. The turks and Caicos get hat part of the name from a plant resembling a fez, so have no connection to turkey in a way that would cause a Turkish or greek fisherman to be there. However the ottoman empire extended to Algeria and the Barbary (pirate) states, sort of including Morocco, so very generously this prison could be placed in the Azores/Madeira/canaria or right at the west end of north africa. Maaaaybe justifying people from the other end of the ottoman empire being there.
Growing up doing 18th century reenacting, pirates of the Caribbean felt almost more like just an 18th century movie than something fantastical, familiarity is the best way I can describe it. Growing up, and having developed a more critical eye, I’m always amazed by how well the authenticity of the trilogy holds up compared to some of its contemporaries that are supposedly “historic.” The costume design (primarily in the first film) is on par with proper living history, and even outdoes movies like The Patriot in accuracy. I think that added authenticity for the period is what really grounds these movies and is part of what makes them so timeless.
The entire point of the new world colonies was to say screw you to Turkey and the Ottomans. The Ottomans didn’t need to go, they had everything already
Nice video but some notes: Of the Dead Man's Chest after the Turkish prison scene has the fishermen who got eaten by the Kraken (because they find Jack's hat just before it) speak mixed Cyprus dialects Greek and Turkish. The Island of Cyprus in near Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean. Norrington also notes in his tavern rant scene how Jack escaped him "in Tripoli" which in the Mediterranean modern Libya in North Africa. All this indicate very clearly without a doubt that Jack was meant to not only in have sailed the Mediterranean after the Curse of the Black Pearl but that the next movie starts from there. It is odd that he makes his next landfall on the Pelegosto Island which is undoubtedly in the Caribbean. This can be seen as a kind of a plot hole.
In the beginning of The Dead Man's Chest the crew of Jack's Black Pearl was very irritated that they make long distance without clear targets. The storms that they encounter in the period of long travelling must duel the irritation. And Jack went back to the other side of the world after he got the haunting Black spot from Bootstrap Bill to mark him for the Kraken. The Kraken was appearing in the Mediterranean sea where he attacked the Turkish/Cyprish fisherman. After the brutal glimp of the Kraken in the Mediterranean we don't see the beast for a long time because Jack outrun with the Black Pearl (the fastest ship of the seven seas) the Kraken to the other side of the world.
It's also stated by Jack's crew that they're tired of being "chased around the Atlantic". This indicates that Norrington has been pursuing Jack over quite a long range of distances. It makes sense for Jack to have escaped Norrington in Tripoli, and then been pursued across the Atlantic to the Caribbean. The mentioned hurricane also probably helped in getting them from one side of the ocean to the other.
@@JBTriple8 I feel it has less to do with the (as you call it) "stereotyping" and more the fact that it doesn't advance the plot much or matter to the story. Though I personally still find it a very fun and entertaining segment.
My rewrite would have Will arrive on the island finding the crew rushing to leave, he asks where Jack is, and Jack comes running around the corner being chased by the natives for god-knows what. The same general outcome woukd exist, but would save so much more time to potentially be used elsewhere.
I think that there was a scene where Norrington says that he almost catched Jack and his crew under tripoli, so maybe the turkish prison actually was located near turkey
The pirates hanging from gibbets at the entrance to Port Royal was a real thing. Captain "Calico Jack" Rackham was hanged in 1720 and his body put on display as a warning to other pirates.
If it's a "Turkish prison" in the Caribbean it could be referencing The Turks and Caicos which geographically would make more sense than sailing across the Atlantic.
The first three movies seem to be in a heavily fictionalized version of the late 1720’s - 1730’s. Obviously a lot of things don’t line up with that, like Port Royal and not Kingston being the “capital” of the British Caribbean, Tortuga still being a pirate stronghold (when in reality Nassau would have been the place to be by the 1710’s, and nowhere by the late 20’s with Caribbean piracy damn nearly extinct by the point the movies take place). That said, these movies are clearly in a bit of a timeline of their own, and people have worked it out based on the clothing, ships and other details to fit right into that window. On Stranger Tides is much easier, I think the director or writer flat out said 1750, which is confirmed in the movie by the King of Spain being Ferdinand VI, the King of Great Britain being George II, and the appearance of several historical British government ministers like Henry Pelham in the St. James Palace scene that were all in power right at that time. I think 5 is confirmed to take place about one year later from dialogue in the movie *EDIT: In fact, knowing the year 4 and 5 take place also helped people pinpoint more or less the exact years the original trilogy took place, thanks largely to the age of Will’s son Henry. I’m too lazy to check right now but if you go on the POTC wiki, I’m pretty sure they have the timeline worked out pretty accurately
@@JakvsMetalheads999 the movies 4 and 5 are so broken in every way that it is an even stronger point to try to pin point the historical setting egnoring them
Dude that would be awesome! They did cover that in some expanded material, and apparently Edward Teague lives there, but it has somehow never been a focus of any POTC stories.
Singapore was definitely around during the golden age of piracy. It was a significant trading port for centuries, originally as the town of Tamasek, but from the 14th century as the independent kingdom of Singapura. By the 18th century, Singapore was part of the sultanate of Johor, one of the major local powers. Singapore was bombed by the Portuguese though and other trading ports became more important. The town survived though, until it rose to power in the 19th century. So at the time of the movies, in reality, it was a trading town in decline and not unlikely to have had some pirates berth their ships in its docks, as the strait of Malacca has been notorious for pirates since at least the time of Majapahit.
4:36 this is technically true, though their lifestyles, clothes and weapons are similar to the Igorot Tribe in the Philippines (yeah that's quite far), they lived in mountains like the Pelegostos but were predominantly vegetarian
Seeing your channel name under that title in my RUclips feed made it feel like a hokie dad joke xD Where does pirates of the Caribbean take place? The Caribbean No, the S.E.A
Yes, but it does point to what the user wants most, which happened to be to the right of the direction Elizabeth was facing. The back of the compass was pointed West, and the right of that direction would be North-West.
Technically a pirates life (sea of thieves storyline) also technically ties into the canon along with that the rum runners isle has the same layout as the one from the curse of the black pearl
I wonder if there's any ghosts of pirates hanting the underwater sections of Port Royal And if there were did the gods send a tsunami to trap them there?
Primarily in the Caribbean, but definitely has scenes and moments that happen elsewhere, like near one of the poles, in the South China Sea, the Mediterranean, etc. Part of the whole value of having large ocean-going vessels is that you can go all over the world.
I have to wonder though...how did they get from the Caribbean to Singapore before the Panema Canal was built? Did they sail all the way around South America??
the more intresting question would be the "when". clothing styles range from louis XIV era clothing up post 7 years war clothing. 4th movie shows george II. but apparently in advanced age. but somehow blackbeard is alive? etc...
They do somewhat cover the Blackbeard stuff. Apparently he was believed to have died in 1718, but somehow escaped and since then became a supernatural entity. A bit thin to be honest, but still canon.
While they did break with ‘Pirates’ tradition and film a majority of ‘On Stranger Tides’ in Hawaii, I suppose this may be because they might have wanted the island where the Fountain of Youth was to look different to previous Caribbean settings, due to its mystical nature.
The fountain of youth is in St. Augustine, FL which Anastasia Island sits just across the Matanzas Bay ... which is a "small island just off of coast of Florida" ... eh?
The island in the film is a large mountainous one, with valleys and rivers and large rock formations. Sadly nothing near Florida fits this depiction of the Fountain.
After port royal was mostly destroyed in the earthquake in1692, it was later reestablished by the royal navy as a place that hunted pirates. So it acyvery accurate the way it is depicted in the pirates movies.
Only thing I wish you elaborated on more is the deal with Singapore. I guess it wasn't established as a city yet? What was there in the years that the movies actually take place? I know from another video of yours that piracy was big in the South China Sea, so where would have been a better alternative for that portion of the movie to take place?
It was China without being China, Disney wanted to sell the film to China, but the Chinese government finds offensive that a Chinese person can be portrayed as a villain or a pirate in a film shown worldwide, so Sao Feng and his crew became Singaporean, somewhat ironically that didn’t stop the Chinese censors cutting some of Chow Yun Fat’s scenes. Shanghai is kinda famous in nautical terms, not sure if it was a port in the 17/18th century ? Lastly, the female ‘Chinese’ Pirate captain portrayed in ‘At Worlds End’ was based on Madame Ching, probably the most successful pirate captain of all time.
So Singapore just straight up didn’t exist before the 1800’s. It was a port established by the English (if memory serves me right), and from there it turned into a far larger settlement. As for a real-world location that would fit better: maybe Hong Kong? Chinese piracy has historically been tied to Hong Kong, but again, moreso in the 1800’s.
There’s a real archipelago in the Caribbean east of Cuba called Turks and Caicos Islands that was part of the British Empire. I imagine that’s where the Turkish prison is but it’s an easy misconception to make especially considering the circumstances of the movie.
I feel like saying "for centuries" when talking about the Bermuda Triangle is a bit misleading, since superstition around it only started in the 50s and it didn't get the name till the 60s
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Thanks! In fairness to myself though I got quite a few views AND gave the answer in the first 5 seconds of the video as a way to bait people into learning some random esoteric topic 😎
Ok one thing…. The Caribs actually WERE practicing cannibalism against the Arawak and Taino as well as their own tribe attested by two hundred years of first-person historical accounts by many sources, both Native and European, including Columbus himself. A historical fact is a historical fact.
That isn’t a historical fact, that’s a historical account. Any number of explainations could be given for that: there could have been some Caribs that did have instances of cannibalism as an exception to the norm. Or the other tribes could have been fearmongering since conflicts were frequent in the region, so demonizing the enemy would help rally support. And Columbus is hardly a great source on anything, the guy claimed to have seen a mermaid for corn’s sake. If there is archaeological evidence of teeth marks on old bones or mass graves, we could possibly make the argument that it’s a historical fact, but calling it a fact based on word of mouth isn’t the wisest move.
@@TheSEAempire Not saying Columbus is the most reliable source, however, some of his claims *are* backed up by evidence. For example, one of the pieces of “evidence” used to try to debunk Columbus’ claims was the long standing belief that there were no Caribs in the northern Bahamas when Columbus landed there. New DNA analysis of bones from the area have had their origins traced to the northern coast of South America, precisely where the Arawaks told Columbus they came from. This groundbreaking evidence confirmed a claim by Columbus that was long thought to be a myth. But he thought manatees were mermaids…. Could it be possible that Columbus was an explorer and not a zoologist? Could it be possible that he was extremely trustworthy in his field of expertise and not necessarily in another? Sir Isaac Newton believed in alchemy yet for obvious reasons we don’t hold his other theories in the natural sciences to the same scrutiny as his beliefs outside of his expertise. Same with Columbus.
Columbus was also not an archaeologist nor an anthropologist, so that’s also not his area of expertise. To think that Columbus was right about Carib history based on word of mouth while the modern descendants of the Caribs claim otherwise is to basically say they don’t know their own history, which is a pretty wild line of logic to try and follow. Again, until we find actual evidence of Carib cannibalism, we can’t say it’s a historical fact.
@@TheSEAempire It wasn’t based on word of mouth. It was based on his own first hand accounts. You don’t have to be an archaeologist or an anthropologist to use your eyes. To discount Columbus’ account, who was present at the time he witnessed these reports, in favor of denials from descendants hundreds of years later is, in my opinion, even wilder logic to follow. That isn’t even mentioning the Arawak oral tradition, of which the invading and warlike Caribs are an integral part of the story.
Speaking of turks, Jack Sparrow is actually inspired by a real english pirate who converted to islam and started to work with tunisian pirates (Tunisia was ruled by turks that time) and they called him "asfur" (bird/birdie).
Surely, the turkish prison is on or near turks and caicos. At least thats what i always thought given the names. At that time Turkish werent called turkish they were called Ottomans.
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It is my opinion that the Turkish prison _was_ in Turkey, and I say this because not long after Jack and the others left the area, his hat was picked up by a pair of sailors, one Turkish and one Greek.
I know nothing of Caribbean history nor Turkish history, but is it possible a "Turkish Prison" could have been for some reason closer to the Caribbean lol
@@charliesnark6535Not really, the ottomans had no Caribbean or American possessions.
@alisilcox6036 ah ok makes sense lol
It's probably near the turks and caicos islands. After all Turkish weren't called Turkish at this time they would've been called Ottomans.
@@torinjones3221 Turks were definitely a thing, the ottomans were a ruling dynasty, the name for the imperial state centred on turkey. English, for that reason, tended to refer to Muslims, near and middle easterners and north Africans as "Turks" interchangeably, so it was certainly a word that meant something.
The turks and Caicos get hat part of the name from a plant resembling a fez, so have no connection to turkey in a way that would cause a Turkish or greek fisherman to be there.
However the ottoman empire extended to Algeria and the Barbary (pirate) states, sort of including Morocco, so very generously this prison could be placed in the Azores/Madeira/canaria or right at the west end of north africa. Maaaaybe justifying people from the other end of the ottoman empire being there.
…Given that it’s called “Pirates of the Caribbean,” I would assume that it takes place…in the Philippines.
Thanks i didn't wanna watch the full vid
Im so glad im not the only one who knew this!!!
4:18 but there is a scene when James Norrington said that he almost captured black pearl in Tripoli
It could be they sailed away from the Mediterranean sea back to the carribean where Jack sneak in the prison
@@Yeahimman32I think that is indeed the idea because Norrington said he lost them when he tried to chase the Pearl through a hurricane.
Growing up doing 18th century reenacting, pirates of the Caribbean felt almost more like just an 18th century movie than something fantastical, familiarity is the best way I can describe it. Growing up, and having developed a more critical eye, I’m always amazed by how well the authenticity of the trilogy holds up compared to some of its contemporaries that are supposedly “historic.” The costume design (primarily in the first film) is on par with proper living history, and even outdoes movies like The Patriot in accuracy. I think that added authenticity for the period is what really grounds these movies and is part of what makes them so timeless.
The Turkish prison implies that this is an alternate history where Turkey had small colonies on the Caribbean
maybe it's the Turks and Caicos island
Tbf, we already have distinct differences, with Port Royal being a bustling British port rather than a small fishing village built on pirate ruins.
The Ottoman Colonial Empire? I shudder at the thought 😵💫
So the pirates of the Caribbean takes place in a game of EU4
The entire point of the new world colonies was to say screw you to Turkey and the Ottomans. The Ottomans didn’t need to go, they had everything already
Nice video but some notes: Of the Dead Man's Chest after the Turkish prison scene has the fishermen who got eaten by the Kraken (because they find Jack's hat just before it) speak mixed Cyprus dialects Greek and Turkish. The Island of Cyprus in near Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean. Norrington also notes in his tavern rant scene how Jack escaped him "in Tripoli" which in the Mediterranean modern Libya in North Africa. All this indicate very clearly without a doubt that Jack was meant to not only in have sailed the Mediterranean after the Curse of the Black Pearl but that the next movie starts from there. It is odd that he makes his next landfall on the Pelegosto Island which is undoubtedly in the Caribbean. This can be seen as a kind of a plot hole.
In the beginning of The Dead Man's Chest the crew of Jack's Black Pearl was very irritated that they make long distance without clear targets. The storms that they encounter in the period of long travelling must duel the irritation. And Jack went back to the other side of the world after he got the haunting Black spot from Bootstrap Bill to mark him for the Kraken. The Kraken was appearing in the Mediterranean sea where he attacked the Turkish/Cyprish fisherman. After the brutal glimp of the Kraken in the Mediterranean we don't see the beast for a long time because Jack outrun with the Black Pearl (the fastest ship of the seven seas) the Kraken to the other side of the world.
It's also stated by Jack's crew that they're tired of being "chased around the Atlantic". This indicates that Norrington has been pursuing Jack over quite a long range of distances. It makes sense for Jack to have escaped Norrington in Tripoli, and then been pursued across the Atlantic to the Caribbean. The mentioned hurricane also probably helped in getting them from one side of the ocean to the other.
The Pelegosto stereotyping is what keeps from it better than Curse of the Black Pearl despite Lovecraftarian Imagery with Jones and The Kraken.
@@JBTriple8 I feel it has less to do with the (as you call it) "stereotyping" and more the fact that it doesn't advance the plot much or matter to the story. Though I personally still find it a very fun and entertaining segment.
My rewrite would have Will arrive on the island finding the crew rushing to leave, he asks where Jack is, and Jack comes running around the corner being chased by the natives for god-knows what. The same general outcome woukd exist, but would save so much more time to potentially be used elsewhere.
The new Sea of Thieves music was a nice touch
DAMN that’s a good thumbnail
After Effects my guy. I ain’t ever touching Photoshop again 😂
Agreed
I think that there was a scene where Norrington says that he almost catched Jack and his crew under tripoli, so maybe the turkish prison actually was located near turkey
Where The pirates of the carribiean takes place is in the name
It takes place inside pirates, duh
The pirates hanging from gibbets at the entrance to Port Royal was a real thing. Captain "Calico Jack" Rackham was hanged in 1720 and his body put on display as a warning to other pirates.
Maybe the Isla de Muerta is in the Cayman Islands, I hear even recently people stash their cash there.
The Caribbean.
Yes, that is the intro of the video.
^ Bro clearly didn't read the whole comment @TheSEAempire
Love the video man and the pronunciation is kali-na-go and do-mi-ni-ca also i appreciate you making it known that the cannibalism was a myth
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!
If it's a "Turkish prison" in the Caribbean it could be referencing The Turks and Caicos which geographically would make more sense than sailing across the Atlantic.
They are turkish and greek speaking sailors in that scene, so no.
It's unclear whether the Black Pearl had good winds and how fast she actually is with the wind in the first 3 films.
Tia dalma cabin was filmed on the Indian river in Dominica 🇩🇲 it’s literally still there up to this day as tourists attraction
Very well paced video filled with useless information. Just how I like it.
Ouch, alright.
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The island near fajardo is called palominito! I used to go there with my dad all the time
That’s awesome!
Didn't realize the channel name is The S.E.A. and thought you had answered the question in the title. Lol
Great Video yeah I agree with That a Turkish Prison was in the Carribbean.
Crazy how they have a chest of aztec gold and they put a bunch of staff gods in the Tiwanaku style on it. That's Andean!!
I just always assumed the Turkish prison was in the Turks & Caicos Islands.
Vetter ask when. Really strange. They say 1730 but the surroundings, the ships, the everything. It spreads from mid 17 to mid 18th
The first three movies seem to be in a heavily fictionalized version of the late 1720’s - 1730’s. Obviously a lot of things don’t line up with that, like Port Royal and not Kingston being the “capital” of the British Caribbean, Tortuga still being a pirate stronghold (when in reality Nassau would have been the place to be by the 1710’s, and nowhere by the late 20’s with Caribbean piracy damn nearly extinct by the point the movies take place). That said, these movies are clearly in a bit of a timeline of their own, and people have worked it out based on the clothing, ships and other details to fit right into that window. On Stranger Tides is much easier, I think the director or writer flat out said 1750, which is confirmed in the movie by the King of Spain being Ferdinand VI, the King of Great Britain being George II, and the appearance of several historical British government ministers like Henry Pelham in the St. James Palace scene that were all in power right at that time. I think 5 is confirmed to take place about one year later from dialogue in the movie
*EDIT: In fact, knowing the year 4 and 5 take place also helped people pinpoint more or less the exact years the original trilogy took place, thanks largely to the age of Will’s son Henry. I’m too lazy to check right now but if you go on the POTC wiki, I’m pretty sure they have the timeline worked out pretty accurately
@@JakvsMetalheads999 the movies 4 and 5 are so broken in every way that it is an even stronger point to try to pin point the historical setting egnoring them
Which begs the question:
If the series drags on long enough, could we get John Paul Jones?
It would be nice if Libertalia showed up in these movies.
Dude that would be awesome! They did cover that in some expanded material, and apparently Edward Teague lives there, but it has somehow never been a focus of any POTC stories.
Is that the real life version of Great Inagua from AC Black Flag?
@@j_edwards6075it’s sort of a pirate myth about a great haven for pirates, think great inugua on steroids. Uncharted 4 is a great game covering it!
Singapore was definitely around during the golden age of piracy. It was a significant trading port for centuries, originally as the town of Tamasek, but from the 14th century as the independent kingdom of Singapura. By the 18th century, Singapore was part of the sultanate of Johor, one of the major local powers. Singapore was bombed by the Portuguese though and other trading ports became more important. The town survived though, until it rose to power in the 19th century.
So at the time of the movies, in reality, it was a trading town in decline and not unlikely to have had some pirates berth their ships in its docks, as the strait of Malacca has been notorious for pirates since at least the time of Majapahit.
4:36 this is technically true, though their lifestyles, clothes and weapons are similar to the Igorot Tribe in the Philippines (yeah that's quite far), they lived in mountains like the Pelegostos but were predominantly vegetarian
Seeing your channel name under that title in my RUclips feed made it feel like a hokie dad joke xD
Where does pirates of the Caribbean take place?
The Caribbean
No, the S.E.A
The compass does not point north !!
Yes, but it does point to what the user wants most, which happened to be to the right of the direction Elizabeth was facing. The back of the compass was pointed West, and the right of that direction would be North-West.
Technically a pirates life (sea of thieves storyline) also technically ties into the canon along with that the rum runners isle has the same layout as the one from the curse of the black pearl
I like the title tbh, the caribbean is pretty large and culturally diverse
I wonder if there's any ghosts of pirates hanting the underwater sections of Port Royal
And if there were did the gods send a tsunami to trap them there?
Primarily in the Caribbean, but definitely has scenes and moments that happen elsewhere, like near one of the poles, in the South China Sea, the Mediterranean, etc.
Part of the whole value of having large ocean-going vessels is that you can go all over the world.
Haven't watched the video but it takes place in the Caribbean. Just a hunch
Cool. I’m amazed they filmed in all those places including Hawaii
I have to wonder though...how did they get from the Caribbean to Singapore before the Panema Canal was built? Did they sail all the way around South America??
Yes
The Aegean right?
Turkish prison can be in the turks and Caicos, north of the Hispanola island
the more intresting question would be the "when".
clothing styles range from louis XIV era clothing up post 7 years war clothing.
4th movie shows george II. but apparently in advanced age. but somehow blackbeard is alive?
etc...
They do somewhat cover the Blackbeard stuff. Apparently he was believed to have died in 1718, but somehow escaped and since then became a supernatural entity. A bit thin to be honest, but still canon.
Aw but where’s the island where Elizabeth and Henry lived at the end of 3 and 5?
I've seen theories that's part of Shipwreck Island, which I could see being the case since the final battle was assumedly near there
Yeah some sources say Jamaica, some say Shipwreck Island.
While they did break with ‘Pirates’ tradition and film a majority of ‘On Stranger Tides’ in Hawaii, I suppose this may be because they might have wanted the island where the Fountain of Youth was to look different to previous Caribbean settings, due to its mystical nature.
The fountain of youth is in St. Augustine, FL which Anastasia Island sits just across the Matanzas Bay ... which is a "small island just off of coast of Florida" ... eh?
The island in the film is a large mountainous one, with valleys and rivers and large rock formations. Sadly nothing near Florida fits this depiction of the Fountain.
After port royal was mostly destroyed in the earthquake in1692, it was later reestablished by the royal navy as a place that hunted pirates. So it acyvery accurate the way it is depicted in the pirates movies.
Well, I wouldn't know.
5:58 that compass is useless for judging where you currently are since it doesnt point north, it points at what you most want
I literally said that in that exact section of the video.
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I wonder if in 300-400 years someone will make a film called Pirates of Somalia
Only thing I wish you elaborated on more is the deal with Singapore. I guess it wasn't established as a city yet? What was there in the years that the movies actually take place? I know from another video of yours that piracy was big in the South China Sea, so where would have been a better alternative for that portion of the movie to take place?
It was China without being China, Disney wanted to sell the film to China, but the Chinese government finds offensive that a Chinese person can be portrayed as a villain or a pirate in a film shown worldwide, so Sao Feng and his crew became Singaporean, somewhat ironically that didn’t stop the Chinese censors cutting some of Chow Yun Fat’s scenes.
Shanghai is kinda famous in nautical terms, not sure if it was a port in the 17/18th century ?
Lastly, the female ‘Chinese’ Pirate captain portrayed in ‘At Worlds End’ was based on Madame Ching, probably the most successful pirate captain of all time.
@@jasperswarp I remember just assuming it was China as a kid. I guess I wasn't all that wrong after all.
So Singapore just straight up didn’t exist before the 1800’s. It was a port established by the English (if memory serves me right), and from there it turned into a far larger settlement.
As for a real-world location that would fit better: maybe Hong Kong? Chinese piracy has historically been tied to Hong Kong, but again, moreso in the 1800’s.
Why is Pirate Borg using Sea Of Thieves Hour Glass PVP music?
Oh I made that section. So they gave me a collection of clips to use but I supplied the music to fit the aesthetic of the rest of the video.
Ahhhh ok that makes sense nice choice, the Sea Of Thieves music is really good and suites most pirate games.
It really does! Robin Beanland can cook.
haven't seen the vid but I'd say in the Caribbean
There’s a real archipelago in the Caribbean east of Cuba called Turks and Caicos Islands that was part of the British Empire. I imagine that’s where the Turkish prison is but it’s an easy misconception to make especially considering the circumstances of the movie.
This video reminded me how Stranger Tides utterly wasted Ian McShane.
I feel like saying "for centuries" when talking about the Bermuda Triangle is a bit misleading, since superstition around it only started in the 50s and it didn't get the name till the 60s
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Thanks! In fairness to myself though I got quite a few views AND gave the answer in the first 5 seconds of the video as a way to bait people into learning some random esoteric topic 😎
Me: sees title of video about Pirates of the CARIBBEAN
Also me: no… no, there has to be more to this.
Switzerland, probably
asking the big questions here
In my opinion, the carribean because
Bro there's no way jack is making that trip from turkey to the Caribbean in weeks more like months.
Kind of ironic that the fountain of youth was supposed to be in Florida, lol.
History of pirates and seas
I always thought early 18th century
I’m gonna go with the Caribbean
We need a 13 min video to say... The Caribbean
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Guess it’s time to play Sid Meier’s Pirates! again…
very solid!
Dang I was wrong... I thought it took place in Zimbabwe...
Thats what i feel is missing from the Caribbean, the piracy was an intrinsic part of its history but today almost all of it is gone.
Ok one thing…. The Caribs actually WERE practicing cannibalism against the Arawak and Taino as well as their own tribe attested by two hundred years of first-person historical accounts by many sources, both Native and European, including Columbus himself.
A historical fact is a historical fact.
That isn’t a historical fact, that’s a historical account. Any number of explainations could be given for that: there could have been some Caribs that did have instances of cannibalism as an exception to the norm. Or the other tribes could have been fearmongering since conflicts were frequent in the region, so demonizing the enemy would help rally support. And Columbus is hardly a great source on anything, the guy claimed to have seen a mermaid for corn’s sake.
If there is archaeological evidence of teeth marks on old bones or mass graves, we could possibly make the argument that it’s a historical fact, but calling it a fact based on word of mouth isn’t the wisest move.
@@TheSEAempire Not saying Columbus is the most reliable source, however, some of his claims *are* backed up by evidence. For example, one of the pieces of “evidence” used to try to debunk Columbus’ claims was the long standing belief that there were no Caribs in the northern Bahamas when Columbus landed there. New DNA analysis of bones from the area have had their origins traced to the northern coast of South America, precisely where the Arawaks told Columbus they came from. This groundbreaking evidence confirmed a claim by Columbus that was long thought to be a myth.
But he thought manatees were mermaids….
Could it be possible that Columbus was an explorer and not a zoologist? Could it be possible that he was extremely trustworthy in his field of expertise and not necessarily in another?
Sir Isaac Newton believed in alchemy yet for obvious reasons we don’t hold his other theories in the natural sciences to the same scrutiny as his beliefs outside of his expertise. Same with Columbus.
Columbus was also not an archaeologist nor an anthropologist, so that’s also not his area of expertise. To think that Columbus was right about Carib history based on word of mouth while the modern descendants of the Caribs claim otherwise is to basically say they don’t know their own history, which is a pretty wild line of logic to try and follow. Again, until we find actual evidence of Carib cannibalism, we can’t say it’s a historical fact.
@@TheSEAempire It wasn’t based on word of mouth. It was based on his own first hand accounts. You don’t have to be an archaeologist or an anthropologist to use your eyes.
To discount Columbus’ account, who was present at the time he witnessed these reports, in favor of denials from descendants hundreds of years later is, in my opinion, even wilder logic to follow.
That isn’t even mentioning the Arawak oral tradition, of which the invading and warlike Caribs are an integral part of the story.
@@TheSEAempire Why would the descendants really know better, though?
The S.E.A.
Speaking of turks, Jack Sparrow is actually inspired by a real english pirate who converted to islam and started to work with tunisian pirates (Tunisia was ruled by turks that time) and they called him "asfur" (bird/birdie).
They could make another sequel to cash milk the franchise - crossover with Zorro. xD
Seemingly bleeding two figures from similar timelines?
For 500 I'd say...
The pacific ocean?
I would say at sea or ocean
When a director and screen writer are doing their homework
It’s all geographically dictated on maps in the lego video game 👀
Could the fountain of youth island be Hispanola?
The state of georgia of course we just never see savannah
For a franchise and topic so related to Spain and the Spanish language, the writers didn't know shit about Spanish names
Jamaica, Iowa (Population 195)
In the Caribbean.😊
I was Jack Sparrow a couple of years ago😅
Before I watch this, I think it is somewhere in the Caribbean, but that's just a guess.
Hmmmmm, I wonder.
Aruba❤
2:07 from where is this picture
What about the Fortnite lore and when he met Sora
Oceen
The ocean
Surely, the turkish prison is on or near turks and caicos. At least thats what i always thought given the names. At that time Turkish werent called turkish they were called Ottomans.
Why would they name it the Turkish prison then?
takes place in my backyard
Lucky bastard…
The SEA
Why would the British Empire have a prison inside territory of foreign and rival Osman Empire?
I’m not sure, but I’m gonna hazard to guess that Pirates of the Caribbean takes place in the Caribbean
Might be the Caribbean
Pretty sure it’s in the name mate
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The sea