I’ve only watched 5 mins 30 secs but just wanted to let you know that I needed this last week when I tried to transition from ISP modem (plus digital voice), to ISP modem (plus DV) + Unifi hardware. I got it all wrong and failed. I have a good feeling I needed this video! So glad YT put it up as a suggested to watch tutorial! Edit: oh I was hoping you would keep the old modem/router in the hardware setup, but you assigned it as a bridge. I don’t have that option with my modem because it has DV and not option to set as a bridge.
Talk about perfect timing for this video. I just received my Unifi equipment and will be moving my home network over this weekend from an Asus AIMesh system with 2 routers in mesh mode. I will be using UCG Ultra, flex mini switch and 2x Unifi 6pro AP’s. Thank you for making this video. It makes it all clear now as to what needs to be done.😊
Thanks so much. İ have an aged friend looking to add a unifi express to his modem router combo to take advantage of the vpn client facilities. The job fell to me and caused some real stress. You just alleviated most of that!
Great tip on naming devices-I completely agree that it’s important to name them directly on the router. That’s exactly what I’ve done with my TP-Link Deco routers. Here’s a suggestion: take screenshots of the MAC addresses for each device in your Deco app. These screenshots usually include the device names, making it much easier to match each MAC address with the correct name when setting them up on your Ubiquiti router. It’s a simple step that saves a ton of time during the transition!
You don't need to have multiple SSID. Unifi has a setting where you can broadcast 1 SSID but use different passwords (PSK) to connect to different VLANS. Under the manual wifi settings click the check box Private Pre-Shared Keys
I am trying to use an external 3rd party WIFI 7 mesh routers, integrated into the new Unifii Cloud Gateway.. I would love to see a video using 3rd party wifi routers into the unifi network system. I really like the unified system for control/security and wired ethernet access but not a fan of their wifi access points, so would prefer to use my own mesh routers.
Fantastic video! I’m actually in the process of transitioning to the Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Max. I’m phasing out all of my TP-Link hardware across both of our homes, but I’m taking a phased approach to avoid the upfront cost of replacing everything at once. I’m starting with our weekend home by swapping out the router first and using IP pass-through. My Deco routers will be dropped into access point mode, and I’ll gradually transition the rest of the devices over time. This also gives me the chance to change the IP range at the weekend house, making it easier to set up a site-to-site VPN between both homes using Ubiquiti routers. One question I have-does Ubiquiti support isolating IoT devices on the network without requiring a separate VLAN? TP-Link had this feature, and it’s been crucial for me because a few of my IoT devices won’t function correctly with HomeKit if they’re placed on a separate VLAN. Looking forward to your thoughts, and thanks again for such an insightful video!
Yes, Unifi does allow for same network client isolation, but I have never set this up personally, so I don't know if it will do what you are wanting. Here is what their support page said: Client Device Isolation For full device isolation or client-to-client isolation, use the following tools based on your UniFi setup. UniFi leverages ALCs on both switches and access points to fully isolate client devices, even if they’re on the same network. Follow these steps for full isolation: Navigate to Settings > Networks. Enable Device Isolation (ACL) for the appropriate network/VLAN. Select the Network/VLAN to apply isolation to Navigate to Settings > WiFi. Select the WiFi associated with your network. Enable Client Device Isolation. help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/18965560820247-How-to-Implement-Network-and-Client-Isolation#:~:text=Client%20Device%20Isolation,-For%20full%20device&text=UniFi%20leverages%20ALCs%20on%20both,for%20the%20appropriate%20network%2FVLAN.
@@ethernetblueprint not my first rodeo though, I have four decades in IT&T. I've replaced a rack mounted networking stack with the same gear you specified by coincidence because its a good fit for home. There's sufficient performance, easy to setup inbuilt capability to push POE out to the small switches to aggregate wired devices which removes the need for wall warts as well as powering the AP. I had intended to mount the AP on the ceiling, turns out its just fine where it is under the table. Configuration is easy and while the cool youtubers want to segment into vlans, create guest networks and go nuts with configuring everything, its not really necessary for home. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, but its still worth demonstrating the capability. When it comes to renaming the SSID for an existing network, the bigger nuisance is reconfiguring all the clients for a new SSID and password. I have a wireless telemetry network (PV monitoring, weather station, water management and so forth) in addition to a surprising number of wireless clients like phones and mobile devices, games consoles, the fridge for goodness sakes and so on, I wasn't going to mess about with putting a new access configuration into all of those devices. So I just used the same ssid and password in the new AP, job done. However if the number of wireless clients is small and a person has the time then sure, why not basically provide a new SSID for them and add them in one at a time from the old network, maintaining service continuity as you go. Renaming each device in the unifi console is a trivial activity compared to configuring each client to access the wireless network. Pros and cons as you said. In any case, it was a fairly trivial exercise to migrate, the new gear works well, uses little power, its inexpensive especially for native POE on a small scale and looks clean. I can see why unifi kit is popular for home use.
I commend you for this gargantuan topic. Not everyone has your dominion of the topic to make it much easier and understandable for us, who need a spoon feeding approach. I got a lot of my challenges addressed by your video. My ISP refuses to give me a public IP address nor does it allow me to get a CGNAT address. So I’m stuck with double/triple nating. I did configured my ISP router to a DMZ forward and it makes it easier to configure my Unifi gateway. Still, I wish I could just get rid of that “man in the middle “. Again. Any suggestions, as to another approach, are welcomed Great presentation and very eye opening. 👍👍
Hello! By chance do you have a video on Ubiquity redundant wan connectivity? I heard they have an offering with redundant wan's but man is their website hard to navigate if you're trying to learn about specific routing features some of the hardware may or may not offer.
Some of the Unifi routers do allow you to have dual wan setups. I don't have a specific video on this, but I do have one that goes into the routers and some of their features. This video was before they made the Cloud Gateway Max but I can tell you that it is capable of dual wan as well... studio.ruclips.net/user/videoDQc9VnnM4sQ/edit
Thank YOU! For this video! I was really thinking of a configuration like this. I have a FritzBox 7490 connecties to a fiber entry Point with TV and DECT telephony. So I wanted to keep the FritzBox router in place and add the Ubiquiti equipment downstream to the FritzBox router. So, I want to use scenario 2 where my old router remains in function. However, i need to get access to my Home Assistant Server from outside which is using DuckDNS. In my old situation I have a translation rule which translates thevextetnal IP@ to the internal IP@ with port forwarding 18123 to 8123 on Home Assistant. I am not sure how to handle that with two routers in series… And I did not get figure out how to pass
If you have 2 routers and you are setting up port forwarding from the outside world, then you would need to setup the port forwarding rules in both routers to allow the traffic though. Very doable, just an extra step. Your Fritzbox would have port forwarding to the IP of your Unifi router and your Unifi router would have port fowarding to the IP of your Home Asst Server.
Exactly the video I was looking for. I have a much better understanding of what needs to be done. My current network consists of isp router/modem -switch - unifi Aps . Is there way of introducing the gateway ultra into the system without causing much disruption?
You could add it behind your current modem/router and get it setup. You may need to update IP addresses so it is different from the router in that case... Make sure you configure your WiFI setting in the new console... then it is just a matter of factory recycling the APs and adopting them. If you use the same WiFI name and password, the everything should just reconnect... would be minimal downtime.
A perfect home set would be a Gateway with 2-4 PoE out and 1-4 Access Points, depending on the home size. That's it. I'd prefer the Gateway to have PoE over Wifi radio.
I prefer to maintain a single SSID (wireless network name) while setting up a second LAN specifically for IoT devices. Under the Wi-Fi’s manual settings, I use “Private Pre-Shared Keys” to manage access. Assign one password for accessing the IoT LAN (LAN2) and a different password for your standard network. Use the IoT password for all your IoT devices and the standard password for everything else. The way I migrated, was by keeping the same SSID and the same password, so all the IOT's connected to that network, add them to a sperate LAN and then you will only have the devices left which are easy to migrate such as laptops, which can be added using a differant password to the main LAN.
That is smart... I just helped a guy who had a ton of IOT devices and we took a similar approach. It was the lesser of two evils... Thanks for sharing!
Edit: Oh sorry I finally saw that part. Being a networking newbie it's quite complicated and technical. I noticed my TP-Link Deco X50-5G has Bridge Mode. I actually plan to run it as a modem and move my network ecosystem to Ubiquiti Unifi. However, is there an easy way to retain all there reserved IP addresses that I have for my smart home devices under my previous SSID? I'm afraid of the monumental task of rebuilding and re-adding all the devices one by one. There are about 30 smart home devices.
Inside the client section of the Unifi portal, you can add clients manually before connecting them. This is in the top right of the portal screen on a computer. You could try manually adding your reservations first during the building process, before you cutover.
Great video. What I am missing for my situation is that my internet cable is coax. I can't just unplug my modem and plug it into the Ubiquti box. Is there a coax to ethernet adaptor that can be used for this?
UniFi does sell a modem but it’s a separate device and you don’t need it for this process. You would just plug the UniFi box into the modem. That modem would need to remain in your network.
I have a fibre modem and an ISP-provided router (Fritz 7530). I don't think i can remove the Fritz router from my system because it has a port specifically for a digital telephone, which I need. As far as I can make out, this router doesn't have a bridge (or transparent or bypass) mode. I can, however, turn the Wifi off. So my question is, can I leave the Fritz router in place and connect the Cloud Gateway Ultra to it? Many thanks Tim, I've been through many of your videos recently and I am preparing to upgrade to Unifi. I just have a few details to sort out, like this one. Thanks for your help.
Absolutely. You will just have something called Double NAT in place which means that your ISP Router as a FW and so does your Cloud Gateway Ultra. This won't cause you any issues. Keep in mind that if you do any port forwarding, you will need to make rules in both routers to allow the traffic through from the outside world.
@@ethernetblueprint Thanks Tim. I've just read up on double NAT and although there's lots of stuff about how to get rid of it, I don't use port forwarding or UPnP so I guess it should work. Just one thing - would I plug to ISP router into the Ultra's WAN port or LAN port?
Great video, just added more to consider for something I completely disregarded. But my situation is a bit different and maybe your concern (about devices flooding in) might not be an issue. I have a TPLINK router currently off my cable modem using 192.168.0.* address space. I have 4 Unifi WAP (AC Lite) devices already and the Controller (Network 8.4.62) already has most of my devices named. I had envisioned taking the TPLINK offline and putting a Cloud GW Ultra quickly in it's place using the same address space. Will the CGW-U network controller pick up all my named info once I adopt the 4 WAPs??? My main objective is to create VLANs for guest and IOT devices after I have stabilized the network. I also do NOT want to run around to dozens of devices in hard to reach places (ceilings, lights mounted on the house) to try to get them onto a new SSID. I have about a dozen static IP addresses (wired and wifi) all over the address space all assigned by the TPLINK router - not sure if the CGW-U has the same flexibility vs reserving a DHCP range. Thanks again for giving me something else to consider.
You may be alright with your client names, but, to be 100% honest, I don't know if that will pass over. My guess is yes, but I would still maybe take some screen shots of the client names before move so you had record you could work from... You do have the same flexibility with reserving IP space in Unifi... So you can start your DHCP with whatever IP you'd like... and make reservations of DHCP devices too.. Glad the video helped... good luck with your project!
@@ethernetblueprint Thanks, I was able to grab the data off the Controller's Web page and stick it into a spreadsheet with a litlte work. 55 devices minimum. I will rewatch this again before deciding on a direction. I have a feeling I can try it my way, if it doesn't work, I can probably just plug the TPLInk router back in and reload the existing WAPs from a controller backup and try the migration. I am concerned about two non-UNIFI switches in the network I'm now figuring Im'm going to need at least one FLEX switch and maybe more If I want to do VLANs.
In todays world everyone wants to go faster and faster over WiFi. WiFi 7 (w/MLO enabled which isn't supported yet in Unifi WiFi 7 devices) will enable you to do multiGig speeds over WiFi in the right conditions. If you only have a 1Gb connection to the AP, the that will be your max throughput.... Even though, it is capable of going faster. Its like having a ferrari with a top speed of 180 mph, but it has governor on it that only allows it to go 100 mph... So, but having a 2.5Gb port on the AP, it will allow you to get those faster speeds. Again, in the right conditions... Hope that helps.
@@ethernetblueprint I will be getting 2.5 Fiber sometime next year. I have wifi 7 on my phone. So I don't want to limit what it is capable of doing. I appreciate your response. I have been studying videos to learn as much as possible about unifi.
On the back of your NVR, there is a network port. You would simply plug your hikvision NVR into your Unifi switch (not sure if you are doing VLANs or not)... and then run all of your IP cameras to your hikvision NVR. That should allow everything to talk and will force the NVR to do your POE for the cameras. It also frees up ports on your Unifi switch for other devices. So, in short, there would only be 1 connections from hikvision plugged into your Unifi switch... just the NVR.
The correct term for you cable modem is bridge mode. This mode turns off all routing function including the WiFi radio antenna. This is the mode I set my isp cable modem / crappy router to use my good WiFi router without having to deal with an extra hop in my network adding useless latency.
@ethernetblueprint do you know if using a Poe+ adapter to go with the new flex mini 2.5 is actually adding latency? Or if it is transparent? My 2 new PCs are coming with 2.5Gb NIC, and I'm trying to convert my traditionnal Wi-Fi 5 over 1Ge setup into a real full Wi-Fi 7 over 2.5Gb. Cloud Gateway Max + flex mini 2.5 + 2x u7 Pro + 2x30w Poe+ adapters. 1200$ CA, cheaper then a Wi-Fi 7 mesh kit with 2 satellites.
@@ethernetblueprint unfortunately there are no udm 2.5 yet. Maybe soon I hope with poe. Otherwise the gateway cloud max 2.5 is the only one and always back order. For switch the only full 2.5 with poe is the enterprise 8, pretty expensive for just 8 port compared to the new mini 2.5. Basically we need 2.5 version of all their 1Ge big sellers. 😅
Short question i ordered my Unifi Ultra , my setup now Modem(bridge mode) tplink Xe75 pro in router mode conected to a switch and on the switch i have my 2 other Tplink Xe75 as a Mesh system(cable backhaul) . what i want to do is Modem(Bridge mode) Unifi Router and the my Tplink XE75 in AP mode(cable backhaul) in my eyes this should work for a smoot transition? . I have to keep my moden it is conected coaxial 1000 Mbit/s . Later this year all will be made glasfiber from my provider then up to 8000Mbit/s i dont need this speed but it is then a standard overhere. Greetings from the Netherlands
@@ethernetblueprint Thank you for the answer, My method worked wel, after conecting the tp on to the Unifi waited for the green light i switched the tplink to Ap mode worked flawless. Thank you for the backup rsponse. Now to discover the Unifi and see how it goes.
So, my UDM PRO, switch and routers came in 2 days ago, 0 networking knowledge, currently using eero 6 (most i've done in setting up a network) and my house use heavy on home assistant. I would like to have separate vlans for our phones and tablets, Kids, cameras and guest and another for iot devices(HA and all). How can i reduce the downtime considering i'm creating the 10.XX.XX series ? Any tip would help
It really depends on a few things as to whether or not that will reduce downtime but using that IP scheme is a perfectly acceptable option. I use it in my home. I think it stands out a little bit more from the 192.168.X.X network so Absolutely, give it a shot.
May I ask why you need vlans? Are you managing thousands of client devices in which case using different subnets makes sense or is it a because you can kind of deal? In any case create your new subnet and assign each client device to the new subnet from the old. That way you minimise downtime of individual devices. Then you can create any firewall or optimisation rules per subnet as well. I'm not a big fan of creating endless subnets to segment devices by capability unless there is some reason to do so such as provide specific firewall rules or optimisations. If you have plenty of bandwidth, then there is little need to do so for performance reasons for example (QoS for voice/conference services lets say). But if you want to do it just because then for sure go for it.
Good video, but a little distracting to have 3/4ths of the cutaways back to you to be staring at your hands and abdomen. I suspect you were just trying to get some good product shots, Id so, I would just zoom out to get both the products and you in the field of view. Excellent information though, thank you.
Many of them do that for security... If you call them, they should give you that log in credential and VLAN ID. Then you would just need to input that in to the WAN info on the router. We have a provider called Centurylink that is setup the same way... Only the owner of the account can call and get that info... Good luck!
If I am reading this comment correctly, typically, the default network is on VLAN 1 which can be a target of attackers quite a bit of the time. I understand why people say to avoid it, but it boils down to preference I guess.
Good video but note: you never explain what an IOT network is nor what a VLan is. As this is not geared towards experienced users you really have to explain more. Like how to see clients of 2 different subdomains at the same time e.
True, but this video wasn’t about that. It was just covering the migration from old to new. However, If you go to my playlists, I have a full series called UniFi for Newbies and I dive into all of that. You should check that out. Might be what you’re looking for.
Ubiquity Basic Home Network Equipment List Ubiquity Networks U6+ (U6-PLUS) Access Point Ubiquity UniFi Switch 8 60W (US-8-60W),White Ubiquity Networks Cloud Gateway Ultra (U CG-Ultra) TP-Link Archer AX55 AX3000 Gigabit Wi-Fi 6 Router 400+ Mbps Spectrum cable modem connection 5 LAN wired connections 3 PCs have 2.5 Network Cards connected to Tp-Link 2.5 5 port switch 8 Wi-Fi connections 6 IoT 2.4Ghz only room lights 1 Nest Thermostat 1 Samsung 5G cell phone wired LAN is 6a Ethernet Can anyone please tell me if this is a workable solution. I may run existing network while I am building Ubiquity Change Over Network. I am ready to buy in 2 to 3 days. Thanks for any help or response with this setup.
I'd like to help, but from this list alone, it is difficult to know what you are wanting to do here. Why don't you email me at tim@ethernetblueprint.com and i'll try to help you out a little more... reference this email.
I’ve only watched 5 mins 30 secs but just wanted to let you know that I needed this last week when I tried to transition from ISP modem (plus digital voice), to ISP modem (plus DV) + Unifi hardware. I got it all wrong and failed. I have a good feeling I needed this video! So glad YT put it up as a suggested to watch tutorial!
Edit: oh I was hoping you would keep the old modem/router in the hardware setup, but you assigned it as a bridge. I don’t have that option with my modem because it has DV and not option to set as a bridge.
I talk about that too. You can keep it in the mix. Watch more of the video. lol.
@ I did. I feel more confident now. I hope they continue to make the UI and options more home user friendly because I do love their stuff.
Talk about perfect timing for this video. I just received my Unifi equipment and will be moving my home network over this weekend from an Asus AIMesh system with 2 routers in mesh mode. I will be using UCG Ultra, flex mini switch and 2x Unifi 6pro AP’s. Thank you for making this video. It makes it all clear now as to what needs to be done.😊
You are so welcome! I hope it helps with your cutover!
@@ethernetblueprint Cutover complete. Working like a charm. Thank you
I’m extremely happy to hear that. Congrats.
Do the UCG ultra work as a router right?
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Thanks so much. İ have an aged friend looking to add a unifi express to his modem router combo to take advantage of the vpn client facilities. The job fell to me and caused some real stress. You just alleviated most of that!
Nice... I am usually that guy to people too... LOL I wish you the best
Great tip on naming devices-I completely agree that it’s important to name them directly on the router. That’s exactly what I’ve done with my TP-Link Deco routers. Here’s a suggestion: take screenshots of the MAC addresses for each device in your Deco app. These screenshots usually include the device names, making it much easier to match each MAC address with the correct name when setting them up on your Ubiquiti router. It’s a simple step that saves a ton of time during the transition!
Thats a great tip. Thanks for commenting!
You don't need to have multiple SSID. Unifi has a setting where you can broadcast 1 SSID but use different passwords (PSK) to connect to different VLANS. Under the manual wifi settings click the check box Private Pre-Shared Keys
Wow cool. I didn't know this. I will definitely look into doing this on my system.
Yes, Great Call-out! Thanks!
@@pitor87 it’s great when you start to get pass 3-4+ bland that you want to connect to over wifi
This video is a lot of talking, but hopefully it will help you with your cutovers out there!!!
You did a good job 👍👍 not to quick and not to slow ..
I would add a step to factory reset your old router before unplugging it to wipe your SSID and keys before you recycle/dispose of it.
That is a good step. Nice call out!
Great video. You explain very well. Regards
Glad you found it helpful!
I am trying to use an external 3rd party WIFI 7 mesh routers, integrated into the new Unifii Cloud Gateway.. I would love to see a video using 3rd party wifi routers into the unifi network system. I really like the unified system for control/security and wired ethernet access but not a fan of their wifi access points, so would prefer to use my own mesh routers.
Noted. I’ll look into it.
Fantastic video! I’m actually in the process of transitioning to the Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Max. I’m phasing out all of my TP-Link hardware across both of our homes, but I’m taking a phased approach to avoid the upfront cost of replacing everything at once.
I’m starting with our weekend home by swapping out the router first and using IP pass-through. My Deco routers will be dropped into access point mode, and I’ll gradually transition the rest of the devices over time. This also gives me the chance to change the IP range at the weekend house, making it easier to set up a site-to-site VPN between both homes using Ubiquiti routers.
One question I have-does Ubiquiti support isolating IoT devices on the network without requiring a separate VLAN? TP-Link had this feature, and it’s been crucial for me because a few of my IoT devices won’t function correctly with HomeKit if they’re placed on a separate VLAN.
Looking forward to your thoughts, and thanks again for such an insightful video!
Yes, Unifi does allow for same network client isolation, but I have never set this up personally, so I don't know if it will do what you are wanting. Here is what their support page said:
Client Device Isolation
For full device isolation or client-to-client isolation, use the following tools based on your UniFi setup.
UniFi leverages ALCs on both switches and access points to fully isolate client devices, even if they’re on the same network. Follow these steps for full isolation:
Navigate to Settings > Networks.
Enable Device Isolation (ACL) for the appropriate network/VLAN.
Select the Network/VLAN to apply isolation to
Navigate to Settings > WiFi.
Select the WiFi associated with your network.
Enable Client Device Isolation.
help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/18965560820247-How-to-Implement-Network-and-Client-Isolation#:~:text=Client%20Device%20Isolation,-For%20full%20device&text=UniFi%20leverages%20ALCs%20on%20both,for%20the%20appropriate%20network%2FVLAN.
@ awesome. Thanks for that additional info!
I did this recently. Basically used the same IP on the new device, substituted it for the old, migrated the switch and AP job done.
Nice! This is encouraging for the other viewers. Thanks for sharing!
@@ethernetblueprint not my first rodeo though, I have four decades in IT&T. I've replaced a rack mounted networking stack with the same gear you specified by coincidence because its a good fit for home.
There's sufficient performance, easy to setup inbuilt capability to push POE out to the small switches to aggregate wired devices which removes the need for wall warts as well as powering the AP. I had intended to mount the AP on the ceiling, turns out its just fine where it is under the table. Configuration is easy and while the cool youtubers want to segment into vlans, create guest networks and go nuts with configuring everything, its not really necessary for home. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, but its still worth demonstrating the capability.
When it comes to renaming the SSID for an existing network, the bigger nuisance is reconfiguring all the clients for a new SSID and password. I have a wireless telemetry network (PV monitoring, weather station, water management and so forth) in addition to a surprising number of wireless clients like phones and mobile devices, games consoles, the fridge for goodness sakes and so on, I wasn't going to mess about with putting a new access configuration into all of those devices. So I just used the same ssid and password in the new AP, job done. However if the number of wireless clients is small and a person has the time then sure, why not basically provide a new SSID for them and add them in one at a time from the old network, maintaining service continuity as you go. Renaming each device in the unifi console is a trivial activity compared to configuring each client to access the wireless network. Pros and cons as you said.
In any case, it was a fairly trivial exercise to migrate, the new gear works well, uses little power, its inexpensive especially for native POE on a small scale and looks clean. I can see why unifi kit is popular for home use.
My favourite option is to have the original wireless router in bridge mode and attached to the gateway. It basically works as an AP.
Absolutely... Great option.
I commend you for this gargantuan topic. Not everyone has your dominion of the topic to make it much easier and understandable for us, who need a spoon feeding approach. I got a lot of my challenges addressed by your video. My ISP refuses to give me a public IP address nor does it allow me to get a CGNAT address. So I’m stuck with double/triple nating. I did configured my ISP router to a DMZ forward and it makes it easier to configure my Unifi gateway. Still, I wish I could just get rid of that “man in the middle “.
Again. Any suggestions, as to another approach, are welcomed Great presentation and very eye opening. 👍👍
I’m in the same boat with the CGNAT as well. Not perfect solution as of now. Thanks for watching.
I’m the king of the castle. I just tell everybody there’s not gonna be no Internet for about an hour and that’s it. Problem solved 😂
I like that approach. Well Done!
😂yuuuuup….. Has anyone had latency issues when I’m not working on it????…. Ok, then.
Hello! By chance do you have a video on Ubiquity redundant wan connectivity? I heard they have an offering with redundant wan's but man is their website hard to navigate if you're trying to learn about specific routing features some of the hardware may or may not offer.
Some of the Unifi routers do allow you to have dual wan setups. I don't have a specific video on this, but I do have one that goes into the routers and some of their features. This video was before they made the Cloud Gateway Max but I can tell you that it is capable of dual wan as well...
studio.ruclips.net/user/videoDQc9VnnM4sQ/edit
Thank YOU! For this video! I was really thinking of a configuration like this. I have a FritzBox 7490 connecties to a fiber entry Point with TV and DECT telephony. So I wanted to keep the FritzBox router in place and add the Ubiquiti equipment downstream to the FritzBox router.
So, I want to use scenario 2 where my old router remains in function.
However, i need to get access to my Home Assistant Server from outside which is using DuckDNS.
In my old situation I have a translation rule which translates thevextetnal IP@ to the internal IP@ with port forwarding 18123 to 8123 on Home Assistant.
I am not sure how to handle that with two routers in series…
And I did not get figure out how to pass
If you have 2 routers and you are setting up port forwarding from the outside world, then you would need to setup the port forwarding rules in both routers to allow the traffic though. Very doable, just an extra step. Your Fritzbox would have port forwarding to the IP of your Unifi router and your Unifi router would have port fowarding to the IP of your Home Asst Server.
Exactly the video I was looking for. I have a much better understanding of what needs to be done. My current network consists of isp router/modem -switch - unifi Aps . Is there way of introducing the gateway ultra into the system without causing much disruption?
You could add it behind your current modem/router and get it setup. You may need to update IP addresses so it is different from the router in that case... Make sure you configure your WiFI setting in the new console... then it is just a matter of factory recycling the APs and adopting them. If you use the same WiFI name and password, the everything should just reconnect... would be minimal downtime.
A perfect home set would be a Gateway with 2-4 PoE out and 1-4 Access Points, depending on the home size. That's it. I'd prefer the Gateway to have PoE over Wifi radio.
I can't wait to see what they come up with. I do agree that POE would be great on the gateways.
I prefer to maintain a single SSID (wireless network name) while setting up a second LAN specifically for IoT devices. Under the Wi-Fi’s manual settings, I use “Private Pre-Shared Keys” to manage access.
Assign one password for accessing the IoT LAN (LAN2) and a different password for your standard network.
Use the IoT password for all your IoT devices and the standard password for everything else.
The way I migrated, was by keeping the same SSID and the same password, so all the IOT's connected to that network, add them to a sperate LAN and then you will only have the devices left which are easy to migrate such as laptops, which can be added using a differant password to the main LAN.
That is smart... I just helped a guy who had a ton of IOT devices and we took a similar approach. It was the lesser of two evils... Thanks for sharing!
Edit: Oh sorry I finally saw that part. Being a networking newbie it's quite complicated and technical.
I noticed my TP-Link Deco X50-5G has Bridge Mode. I actually plan to run it as a modem and move my network ecosystem to Ubiquiti Unifi. However, is there an easy way to retain all there reserved IP addresses that I have for my smart home devices under my previous SSID? I'm afraid of the monumental task of rebuilding and re-adding all the devices one by one. There are about 30 smart home devices.
Inside the client section of the Unifi portal, you can add clients manually before connecting them. This is in the top right of the portal screen on a computer. You could try manually adding your reservations first during the building process, before you cutover.
Great video. What I am missing for my situation is that my internet cable is coax. I can't just unplug my modem and plug it into the Ubiquti box. Is there a coax to ethernet adaptor that can be used for this?
UniFi does sell a modem but it’s a separate device and you don’t need it for this process. You would just plug the UniFi box into the modem. That modem would need to remain in your network.
@@ethernetblueprint Thanks!
I have a fibre modem and an ISP-provided router (Fritz 7530). I don't think i can remove the Fritz router from my system because it has a port specifically for a digital telephone, which I need. As far as I can make out, this router doesn't have a bridge (or transparent or bypass) mode. I can, however, turn the Wifi off. So my question is, can I leave the Fritz router in place and connect the Cloud Gateway Ultra to it? Many thanks Tim, I've been through many of your videos recently and I am preparing to upgrade to Unifi. I just have a few details to sort out, like this one. Thanks for your help.
Absolutely. You will just have something called Double NAT in place which means that your ISP Router as a FW and so does your Cloud Gateway Ultra. This won't cause you any issues. Keep in mind that if you do any port forwarding, you will need to make rules in both routers to allow the traffic through from the outside world.
@@ethernetblueprint Thanks Tim. I've just read up on double NAT and although there's lots of stuff about how to get rid of it, I don't use port forwarding or UPnP so I guess it should work. Just one thing - would I plug to ISP router into the Ultra's WAN port or LAN port?
Sorry for the late reply. It would go into the WAN port.
Great video, just added more to consider for something I completely disregarded. But my situation is a bit different and maybe your concern (about devices flooding in) might not be an issue. I have a TPLINK router currently off my cable modem using 192.168.0.* address space. I have 4 Unifi WAP (AC Lite) devices already and the Controller (Network 8.4.62) already has most of my devices named. I had envisioned taking the TPLINK offline and putting a Cloud GW Ultra quickly in it's place using the same address space. Will the CGW-U network controller pick up all my named info once I adopt the 4 WAPs??? My main objective is to create VLANs for guest and IOT devices after I have stabilized the network. I also do NOT want to run around to dozens of devices in hard to reach places (ceilings, lights mounted on the house) to try to get them onto a new SSID. I have about a dozen static IP addresses (wired and wifi) all over the address space all assigned by the TPLINK router - not sure if the CGW-U has the same flexibility vs reserving a DHCP range. Thanks again for giving me something else to consider.
You may be alright with your client names, but, to be 100% honest, I don't know if that will pass over. My guess is yes, but I would still maybe take some screen shots of the client names before move so you had record you could work from... You do have the same flexibility with reserving IP space in Unifi... So you can start your DHCP with whatever IP you'd like... and make reservations of DHCP devices too..
Glad the video helped... good luck with your project!
@@ethernetblueprint Thanks, I was able to grab the data off the Controller's Web page and stick it into a spreadsheet with a litlte work. 55 devices minimum. I will rewatch this again before deciding on a direction. I have a feeling I can try it my way, if it doesn't work, I can probably just plug the TPLInk router back in and reload the existing WAPs from a controller backup and try the migration. I am concerned about two non-UNIFI switches in the network I'm now figuring Im'm going to need at least one FLEX switch and maybe more If I want to do VLANs.
I'm rooting for you... These things are always work... especially with a lot of devices... Good luck!
When creating the new wifi network, does it broadcast both 2.4 and 5 simultaneously?
By default, yes. But you can easily adjust that and identify which frequency you want that SSID to use.
Can you tell me what I gain with a 2.5 Gbit connection to U7 rather than a 1gb connection? Thanks.
In todays world everyone wants to go faster and faster over WiFi. WiFi 7 (w/MLO enabled which isn't supported yet in Unifi WiFi 7 devices) will enable you to do multiGig speeds over WiFi in the right conditions. If you only have a 1Gb connection to the AP, the that will be your max throughput.... Even though, it is capable of going faster. Its like having a ferrari with a top speed of 180 mph, but it has governor on it that only allows it to go 100 mph... So, but having a 2.5Gb port on the AP, it will allow you to get those faster speeds. Again, in the right conditions... Hope that helps.
@@ethernetblueprint I will be getting 2.5 Fiber sometime next year. I have wifi 7 on my phone. So I don't want to limit what it is capable of doing. I appreciate your response. I have been studying videos to learn as much as possible about unifi.
I am happy to help! Congrats on the 2.5Gb fiber!
Can I use a hikvision poe NVR plugged into a dream machine???
You can plug any NVR into a dream machine. The dream machine does not have POE so if that is a POE NVR, it won't power it.
@@ethernetblueprint so what would be my best option if I want hikvision CCTV and cameras but unify for me whole house internet. Thanks in advance 👍🏻
On the back of your NVR, there is a network port. You would simply plug your hikvision NVR into your Unifi switch (not sure if you are doing VLANs or not)... and then run all of your IP cameras to your hikvision NVR. That should allow everything to talk and will force the NVR to do your POE for the cameras. It also frees up ports on your Unifi switch for other devices. So, in short, there would only be 1 connections from hikvision plugged into your Unifi switch... just the NVR.
@ethernetblueprint Thanks so much for that, I just wish unify had a 10" screen like hikvision have
The correct term for you cable modem is bridge mode. This mode turns off all routing function including the WiFi radio antenna. This is the mode I set my isp cable modem / crappy router to use my good WiFi router without having to deal with an extra hop in my network adding useless latency.
I have seen it called bridge mode and bypass mode in devices... Thanks for sharing that with the viewers though.
@ethernetblueprint do you know if using a Poe+ adapter to go with the new flex mini 2.5 is actually adding latency? Or if it is transparent?
My 2 new PCs are coming with 2.5Gb NIC, and I'm trying to convert my traditionnal Wi-Fi 5 over 1Ge setup into a real full Wi-Fi 7 over 2.5Gb. Cloud Gateway Max + flex mini 2.5 + 2x u7 Pro + 2x30w Poe+ adapters. 1200$ CA, cheaper then a Wi-Fi 7 mesh kit with 2 satellites.
I'm fairly certain the throughput on the injector is 1Gb, so I would imagine that would be your max speed using one.
@@ethernetblueprint unfortunately there are no udm 2.5 yet. Maybe soon I hope with poe. Otherwise the gateway cloud max 2.5 is the only one and always back order.
For switch the only full 2.5 with poe is the enterprise 8, pretty expensive for just 8 port compared to the new mini 2.5.
Basically we need 2.5 version of all their 1Ge big sellers. 😅
I think all of this is coming... it just takes time to get it rolled out and tested.
Short question i ordered my Unifi Ultra , my setup now Modem(bridge mode) tplink Xe75 pro in router mode conected to a switch and on the switch i have my 2 other Tplink Xe75 as a Mesh system(cable backhaul) . what i want to do is Modem(Bridge mode) Unifi Router and the my Tplink XE75 in AP mode(cable backhaul) in my eyes this should work for a smoot transition? . I have to keep my moden it is conected coaxial 1000 Mbit/s . Later this year all will be made glasfiber from my provider then up to 8000Mbit/s i dont need this speed but it is then a standard overhere. Greetings from the Netherlands
Assuming that the TPlink Xe75 routers can be put in AP mode and get their IP info from the Unifi router, you are correct. It should be pretty smooth.
@@ethernetblueprint Thank you for the answer, My method worked wel, after conecting the tp on to the Unifi waited for the green light i switched the tplink to Ap mode worked flawless. Thank you for the backup rsponse. Now to discover the Unifi and see how it goes.
Best of luck. Glad that went well!
Great!
Thanks!
So, my UDM PRO, switch and routers came in 2 days ago, 0 networking knowledge, currently using eero 6 (most i've done in setting up a network) and my house use heavy on home assistant. I would like to have separate vlans for our phones and tablets, Kids, cameras and guest and another for iot devices(HA and all). How can i reduce the downtime considering i'm creating the 10.XX.XX series ? Any tip would help
It really depends on a few things as to whether or not that will reduce downtime but using that IP scheme is a perfectly acceptable option. I use it in my home. I think it stands out a little bit more from the 192.168.X.X network so Absolutely, give it a shot.
@@ethernetblueprint Thank you!
May I ask why you need vlans? Are you managing thousands of client devices in which case using different subnets makes sense or is it a because you can kind of deal? In any case create your new subnet and assign each client device to the new subnet from the old. That way you minimise downtime of individual devices. Then you can create any firewall or optimisation rules per subnet as well.
I'm not a big fan of creating endless subnets to segment devices by capability unless there is some reason to do so such as provide specific firewall rules or optimisations. If you have plenty of bandwidth, then there is little need to do so for performance reasons for example (QoS for voice/conference services lets say). But if you want to do it just because then for sure go for it.
I think I would also make a VLAN for the children’s things also tbh so their stuff isn’t on the secure network.
Absolutely... The VLANs you create are entirely up to you. There are lots of different ways to do this...
Good video, but a little distracting to have 3/4ths of the cutaways back to you to be staring at your hands and abdomen. I suspect you were just trying to get some good product shots, Id so, I would just zoom out to get both the products and you in the field of view. Excellent information though, thank you.
Still working on the best way to present. My basement being under construction presents many space challenges at the moment.
Can u elaborate on how to set up pppoe
What ISP do you have? I assume this is so you can connect directly to their internet and bypass the modem?!?
@@ethernetblueprint it's etisalat uae. They assigned me a username and password and a vlan id (I have no idea why a vlan id)
Many of them do that for security... If you call them, they should give you that log in credential and VLAN ID. Then you would just need to input that in to the WAN info on the router. We have a provider called Centurylink that is setup the same way... Only the owner of the account can call and get that info... Good luck!
@ unfortunately I have filed for rma and moving out of ubiquiti. Thanks for ur help
No one really address why not to use the default network.
If I am reading this comment correctly, typically, the default network is on VLAN 1 which can be a target of attackers quite a bit of the time. I understand why people say to avoid it, but it boils down to preference I guess.
😂 Telling your family that the network is going down😂 Just don’t do it when your wife is working from home. Everyone else can go play outside.
Hahaha. I like your approach!!
Good video but note: you never explain what an IOT network is nor what a VLan is. As this is not geared towards experienced users you really have to explain more. Like how to see clients of 2 different subdomains at the same time e.
True, but this video wasn’t about that. It was just covering the migration from old to new. However, If you go to my playlists, I have a full series called UniFi for Newbies and I dive into all of that. You should check that out. Might be what you’re looking for.
You have the "go ahead" disease.
A lot of Unifi'ers do...
Ubiquity Basic Home Network Equipment List
Ubiquity Networks U6+ (U6-PLUS) Access Point
Ubiquity UniFi Switch 8 60W (US-8-60W),White
Ubiquity Networks Cloud Gateway Ultra (U CG-Ultra)
TP-Link Archer AX55
AX3000 Gigabit Wi-Fi 6 Router
400+ Mbps Spectrum cable modem connection
5 LAN wired connections
3 PCs have 2.5 Network Cards
connected to Tp-Link 2.5 5 port switch
8 Wi-Fi connections
6 IoT 2.4Ghz only room lights
1 Nest Thermostat
1 Samsung 5G cell phone
wired LAN is 6a Ethernet
Can anyone please tell me if this is a workable solution.
I may run existing network while I am building Ubiquity Change Over Network.
I am ready to buy in 2 to 3 days.
Thanks for any help or response with this setup.
I'd like to help, but from this list alone, it is difficult to know what you are wanting to do here. Why don't you email me at tim@ethernetblueprint.com and i'll try to help you out a little more... reference this email.