This $5000 MSI Gaming Pre-Built Is WILD...

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  • Опубликовано: 21 фев 2023
  • I look at a very expensive pre-built system by MSI.
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  • @zappalavigna
    @zappalavigna Год назад +2722

    "It's put together like a tesla" holy words 🗿

    • @AnnaDoes
      @AnnaDoes Год назад +206

      hahaha such a burn

    • @slowlanegamer
      @slowlanegamer Год назад +111

      @@AnnaDoes I can’t tell if MSI just had some fetish for the mean words Dawid throws around or if they just assumed he wouldn’t look at the system while testing it lol 😂… I mean maybe it’s the “all press is good press” system. Or they just don’t actually watch the other videos and where like “hey look this guy has a channel and following where he reviews our pre-built systems let’s send him one

    • @cv990a4
      @cv990a4 Год назад +213

      Dawid Twitter account mysteriously stops working...

    • @zappalavigna
      @zappalavigna Год назад +1

      @@cv990a4 lol

    • @zappalavigna
      @zappalavigna Год назад +9

      Why does it say: 4 answered from dawiddoestechstuff and others but I don't see his answere? Do you see it?

  • @Hadosama
    @Hadosama Год назад +1722

    This is why i love Dawid. Holds nothing back even when he is sent a product to look at. Can always expect a non bias no BS review.

    • @zacharykoppinger9835
      @zacharykoppinger9835 Год назад +9

      Brutality!!

    • @fakename2966
      @fakename2966 Год назад +5

      we really know he was not told what to say

    • @insurgentlowcash7564
      @insurgentlowcash7564 Год назад +10

      @@fakename2966 That motherboard!!! For 5k lol
      Yeah I agree, just as bad as a dell mb, basically 5k for a 4090, psu, CPU and ssd. Sad.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +128

      I try and show things as they are, besides it makes for better jokes. 😂

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +176

      @@cerberusloyalist5038 That was a sponsored video though, which I made clear at the start. If it helps, I only accept sponsorships for products that I already think is good. For example, MSI originally wanted this to be a sponsored video. However from the get go, I told them no, because I wasn’t confident the PC would be good. I bet the stuff carefully. 😊

  • @yourmom9758
    @yourmom9758 Год назад +13

    The bios is in a default basic mode. There is a video on RUclips that shows you how to enter the advanced settings mode in the MSI bios. I had to do it with my Stealth GS77.

  • @TobyIKanoby
    @TobyIKanoby Год назад +14

    The "Silent Storm Cooling" thing is actually one of the good things a pre-built can offer you, it is known purpose build air guides can be advantageous.

  • @Daruffy
    @Daruffy Год назад +1026

    Let's enjoy the very last video MSI will ever send a pc for 😂

    • @slowlanegamer
      @slowlanegamer Год назад +168

      I mean they clearly are a glutton for punishment. It’s not like Dawid said nice things about the other MSI pre-guilts lmao 🤣

    • @SB-pf5rc
      @SB-pf5rc Год назад +31

      tbh i thought this was a fairly positive review. that case is... polarizing. i bet there's people who see it as a draw and don't mind the build quality. the only real hit was xmp support (wtf?) and that cheapo mobo/ram, and dawid didn't hammer them for that.

    • @slowlanegamer
      @slowlanegamer Год назад +41

      @@SB-pf5rc I mean just showing the cheap ram and motherboard and mentioning that the ram looks like it was pulled from a trash bin is enough lol the cheap ram is crazy like good ram only costs like $130 for Corsair vengeance 5600mhz ddr5 🤷🏼‍♂️ or like $75 for ddr4 …. So that and the motherboard seem a little unacceptable to me
      But like spending this amount of money on a PC from a company that makes their own motherboards and getting something that looks cheaper than a normal MSI mag Tomahawk z690 or z590 is crazy. Like you could spend $150 on sale to $250 and get a nicer motherboard with more options than this one I believe.
      Idk how to feel really but being “top of the line” and having the 4090 in there and high tier CPU doesn’t really make up for everything else right?

    • @slowlanegamer
      @slowlanegamer Год назад +23

      @@SB-pf5rc I know it’s irrelevant but you could build this system with better quality components from Best Buy for like $3200. So they are charging $1800 profit and skimping on the motherboard and ram? 😰

    • @Ficii1
      @Ficii1 Год назад +1

      @@slowlanegamer You can get a 64GB DDR5 kit for $130?

  • @Large_Sarge
    @Large_Sarge Год назад +796

    Thank you for not pulling your punches. So many reviewers start becoming "kinder" as they grow their channel and get real big sponsors and free stuff. Never change my man.

    • @jasonpage5282
      @jasonpage5282 Год назад +27

      This guy is real

    • @gkjester
      @gkjester Год назад

      Lenode would sponsor a spineless shill for the man.

    • @thekoreyway9272
      @thekoreyway9272 Год назад +2

      It’s a review for a reason

    • @w.d.gaster1550
      @w.d.gaster1550 Год назад +8

      Id change my reviews too if I was getting free shit 💀

    • @nicknz100
      @nicknz100 Год назад +2

      You'd think companies would appreciate a review like this as they'll know what they can improve on.

  • @Rexonsteroids
    @Rexonsteroids Год назад +8

    I don't think quality of plastic or vents being too large would have ever entered my mind once lol. And I don't think I needed it to. I'm glad everything worked out of the box for you man! That's definitely something rare

  • @halfbitgaming7022
    @halfbitgaming7022 Год назад +34

    I'd love to see the temps on the motherboards vrms seeing as they had no heatsinks on them at all and they're handling a 13900k.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Год назад +2

      Yeah & no need to go to the lengths of the HUB or GN Steve for their specific VRM Test Reviews, just the basic Harware Monitor stats would be good here.

    • @ge2719
      @ge2719 4 месяца назад

      i noticed the same. it seems to be msi's cheapest z790 "gaming" board, with everything stripped off of it... how the heck can they get away with that? they even took the m.2 slot heatsinks away.

  • @CosmicColdBrew
    @CosmicColdBrew Год назад +412

    MSI: Here Dawid, have this $5000 system and say some nice things :>
    Dawid: This is not the face of mercy.

    • @jasonharris8588
      @jasonharris8588 Год назад +27

      Who else read that in Dawid's voice? :)

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +72

      @@jasonharris8588 I also did. 😅

    • @thealien_ali3382
      @thealien_ali3382 Год назад +6

      ​@@DawidDoesTechStuffI love you

    • @D4RKV3NOM
      @D4RKV3NOM Год назад +2

      ​@@thealien_ali3382love is a strong word, save it for a love interest, unless Dawid is your love interest, then pardon me xD

    • @Touma134
      @Touma134 5 месяцев назад

      He's got a very friendly mug it's easy to make that mistake.

  • @AnnaDoes
    @AnnaDoes Год назад +54

    Nothing screams class like Piano Black Plastic :D

  • @SkillTimO
    @SkillTimO Год назад +60

    4K gaming on a 1440p monitor, impressive.

    • @jonboy602
      @jonboy602 Год назад +5

      I couldn't figure that one out either.

    • @makuIa
      @makuIa Год назад +13

      @@jonboy602 the screens max resolution will always be how it’s displayed no matter what you set the resolution at. so basically your GPU can struggle it’s heart out sending 8K graphics to your monitor but your monitor will only display its max resolution like in this case was 1440p so it’s basically tiring out your graphics card for nothing lol

    • @TeamGun
      @TeamGun Год назад +18

      @@jonboy602 You fools never hear of Super Sampling? Stick to consoles plebs.

    • @hahamanin
      @hahamanin Месяц назад +2

      @@TeamGun what?🤣

    • @R3AL-AIM
      @R3AL-AIM Месяц назад +1

      @@makuIa That's not how it works with SS lol

  • @DougS45
    @DougS45 Год назад

    You are easily one of my favorite channels and my goodness you bring pure joy each and every time.

  • @pschroeter1
    @pschroeter1 Год назад +345

    I hope whoever in MSI marketing decided to send you a $5000 system does well in his next avenue of employment.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Год назад +3

      you know it's going to be a great video when Dawid says there no way it can end other then badly🤣🤣🤣

    • @syncmonism
      @syncmonism Год назад +10

      As bad as it was, it's sad that it's still better than a lot of other pre-builts. The most serious issues were just that the case is very cheap, dirty looking, and with a goofy looking design, and also that XMP wasn't enabled. At least the cooling and ventilation actually did work perfectly well. The bios also sucked, but at least it works and does the basic things it's supposed to do.

    • @pschroeter1
      @pschroeter1 Год назад +2

      @@syncmonism Make no mistake, I would brtu gladly accept it if they sent be one. I'm just not able to tell if it was worth the price.

    • @apotato5563
      @apotato5563 Год назад +2

      ​​@@syncmonism the vrm is terrible. It doesn't have any heatsinks and only has ~8+2 phases? I'm not confident in that it can suply over 160W constant and for a $5000 prebuild that's just terrible. You'll either experience vrm throttling or a power limit. In both cases it will decrease performance. And even if it isn't it is probably running in the 100c range and most capacitors are only rated for 5000Hours @105c. And someone who buys a 5000 prebuild probably games all day not 2 hours a day. It won't last long...

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@apotato5563 This is why I will never buy a prebuilt, they always skimp on the motherboard, power supply, case, etc.

  • @theDRA90N
    @theDRA90N Год назад +230

    It's like a 12 min video but it feels like 5 I am just so entertained that every time a video of him ends I'm just sad that it's over, keep up the good work!

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Год назад +7

      Yep & it's always a better day i it is a DawidDTS video day😁

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +29

      That’s great to hear! I’m glad you don’t find them hard to sit through. 👍

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +12

      @@shaneeslick Thanks Shane! 😃

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Год назад +7

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff I suffer Clinical Depression & Severe Anxiety & your videos are Awesome at Distracting my brain from that, making me laugh & giving me happy thoughts, so Big Thank You to you Anna & Neko🧔👱‍♀😺😁

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +11

      @@shaneeslick I’m glad they offer you a distraction and I wish you all the best for what you are going through. 😊

  • @BHSilver
    @BHSilver Год назад +3

    I was very surprised with the thermals you were at after playing your game for 45 mins. Would have loved to see more bios options for the memory and some more overclocking options. Maybe it could be added in a bios update in the future?

  • @ItsReal
    @ItsReal Год назад

    Crazy to see how the videos have only gotten better over the last two years or so since I found the channel

  • @pauldethick6175
    @pauldethick6175 Год назад +129

    That was brave of MSI to send that over, not sure they will be doing it again any time soon!
    Maybe you could consult for them on what makes a half decent case!

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +26

      Haha!! Yeah I’m curious to see how this plays out.

    • @Whiterin
      @Whiterin Год назад +15

      That's what's so weird about it. MSI knows how to make cases! They have decent low cost cases. I use one personally. Why they'd use this junk instead of one of the cases they already produce is beyond me.

    • @mikeymaiku
      @mikeymaiku Год назад +2

      @@Whiterin because they have a pretty good track record of selling odd super expensive pcs

  • @fierce134
    @fierce134 Год назад +46

    I will second other comments made here: underneath the razor-sharp wit and hilarity, Dawid actually gives real and honest reviews and feedback like almost no one else on RUclips does. Thank you for that
    Also, 16°C ambient?? Dawid, use some of that sweet Linode money to turn the heat up!

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Год назад +9

      That 16°C Ambient is why Dawid is literally the Coollest TechTuber 🥶😂

    • @apotato5563
      @apotato5563 Год назад +1

      Don't worry the 4090 is a heater

  • @soumyajitdeb3943
    @soumyajitdeb3943 Год назад

    I don't think any other techtuber has such a great sense of humor. I'm hooked to your videos as the content is good and the humor makes it awesome. Keep up the good work!

  • @freduah4253
    @freduah4253 Год назад

    Best and honest review I can find on youtube! Love it.

  • @garbuckle3000
    @garbuckle3000 Год назад +20

    As soon as I saw the rear motherboard i/o, I knew it would be painful. No xmp in ANY system nowadays, let alone a $5k gaming one, proves that someone needs to be fired.
    Good job keeping the reviews real and entertaining

    • @db8989
      @db8989 Год назад +4

      At least three people are probably looking for a new job soon.
      The person who "configured" this joke, the manager who signed off on selling it like that and the one who thought sending it out for an independent review was a good idea 😂

    • @jesses1589
      @jesses1589 Год назад +3

      I wonder who made the decision to send him that PC with a mechanical drive in it....Its like having a drag racing car with spare tyre donuts on the back wheels.

  • @HBerg-jy9ls
    @HBerg-jy9ls Год назад +63

    Just as an info, this MSI BIOS has two variants to config, a base and an expert view. You need the expert view to config XMP. Its hiding in the base view.

    • @SB-pf5rc
      @SB-pf5rc Год назад +21

      thanks for the info! ...'expert' to run the ram at its rated speed tho-- 🤣

    • @mithikx
      @mithikx Год назад +29

      Normally on MSI BIOS there's a thing on the top of the UI that tells you to press F7 to enter Advanced Mode or Expert Mode or whatever they call it, but it's not even there when Dawid enters the BIOS. I don't think that's a retail motherboard MSI slapped into that computer, probably some cut-down one they use just for prebuilds.

    • @stephen1r2
      @stephen1r2 Год назад +14

      @@mithikx Yup; the board has no power heatsinks at all and looks like the CSM, or Corporate Stable--office PC stuff. Normally only allows base JEDEC ram speeds and locked multipliers so a K-sku runs like non-K

    • @guczy
      @guczy Год назад +8

      @@mithikx And even in EZ mode (thats how it's called in the BIOS) there is a yuge XMP button on top.

    • @bdub1682
      @bdub1682 Год назад +5

      @@mithikx yeah, the board identifies as the z790 trident x2, which means its custom for that prebuilt... and also interesting that its a z790 with no xmp, lol

  • @aliananza1990
    @aliananza1990 Год назад +10

    I don't know if it's like their laptops. But maybe there is a key combo you have to press, to unlock secret a bios menu to allow you to really tweak the settings just like the ge66 laptop I had.

    • @yepyep266
      @yepyep266 Год назад

      Tell me the secret. I have this laptop

  • @twyx6928
    @twyx6928 Год назад

    12:13 I almost spat out my coffee, good job on that line!

  • @TheTekknician
    @TheTekknician Год назад +83

    I have to appreciate MSI being brave enough for sending a 5000-dollar costing machine to a brutally (and comically) honest reviewer that just does what's expected: unbiased opinions.
    The thing is, how could MSI really not know this would happen?

    • @ResidentWeevil2077
      @ResidentWeevil2077 Год назад +7

      After watching Gamers Nexus review one of MSI's pre-builts, I'm mildly amused they sent a similar quality pre-built to Dawid. They must have a humiliation kink 😂😂

    • @Macheako
      @Macheako Год назад +5

      take away the 4090......and that thing HONESTLY looks like it's worth.....maybe $700 - $900 bucks? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @sankaplays3098
      @sankaplays3098 Год назад +2

      @@Macheako Hell no, I wouldnt even pay 500 for it. I would rather have a super basic case than this weird pretend modern looking thing with a touchscreen that has the functionality of screens Ive had for a pentium 4 that went in to the CD tray haha.

  • @hunt3009
    @hunt3009 Год назад +28

    It’s always a good day when Dawid uploads a video. This was also a system I’d wanted to see a review of, given MSI’s track record on this channel plus the design choices MSI made and it’s worse than I thought it would be, and I thought it was going to be pretty bad.

  • @scherge
    @scherge Год назад +1

    The last time I had to use a screwdriver to open one of my PCs was in 1998. What a neat feature on this 5000 $ PC from 2023. That's just adorable, MSI.

    • @db8989
      @db8989 Год назад

      Haha, very good point! At least use thumb screws, MSI. Come on, even low end cases have these nowadays.

  • @peterking3196
    @peterking3196 Год назад +1

    Dawid, your ambient room temperature is so low! Good job you had that behemoth of a system to bring it up a little

  • @fintrollpgr
    @fintrollpgr Год назад +57

    To be honest the springy plastic for the radiator mounting is a good thing. It soaks up vibration from the ventilators which is good for noise.

    • @jayb1rd
      @jayb1rd Год назад +23

      Rubber grommets at the mounting points would allow for a steal bracket and provide the same noise deadening.

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff  Год назад +27

      That’s an interesting point, but as Jason said, rubber grommets should do the same thing. To be fair, the plastic on the side panels would give in way before the radiator mount becomes a problem.

    • @Njazmo
      @Njazmo Год назад +2

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff you can always print a new one if you're feeling nerdy, but on a 5000$ system, I prefer billet aluminum CNC-machined parts, not that plastic crap. But hey, quantity over quality. 😂

  • @jasonpage5282
    @jasonpage5282 Год назад +4

    Thank you for your brutal honesty. Keeping it real. Respect.

  • @_mike628
    @_mike628 Год назад

    Great video love this MSI pre-built

  • @PenguinConspiracyProject
    @PenguinConspiracyProject Год назад +18

    An HDD in a ~$5000 machine? WTF MSI? I love how Dawid just goes full tilt through the entire review!

    • @joe--cool
      @joe--cool Год назад

      12TB SSD = $4000
      12TB HDD = $200
      makes sense to me.

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 10 месяцев назад

      @@joe--cool lol i spent like 800 dollars on 2 4tb samsung ssds about a year and a half ago quit lying

    • @joe--cool
      @joe--cool 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@honeybadger6275 2 SSDs with 4 TB equal 1 SSD with 12 TB. And they cost the same. Fascincating.
      That's news to me. Heed your advice and stop lying.

    • @esotericjahanism5251
      @esotericjahanism5251 9 месяцев назад +1

      getting an HDD even in this day and age still make sense and even on a higher end enthusiast build, as long as you have an Nvme for your OS and games an HDD is still a great investment for capacities above 4TB and especially if its just for media files, since an modern HDD will still have fast enough read and write speeds for video files.

  • @iHaveTheDocuments
    @iHaveTheDocuments Год назад +11

    Imagine buying a 5,000 system without a glass side to you can see the 4090

    • @xmateinc
      @xmateinc Год назад +2

      I got my 4090 on full display in my corsair 680x

  • @malccy72
    @malccy72 Год назад +19

    Another wonderfully enjoyable video; thanks Dawid. My only question really is why the cpu appeared locked at around 4ghz?

    • @carl4889
      @carl4889 Год назад +7

      I'd imagine they locked down the CPU hard so it didn't immediately melt its way down to the earth's core. Probably a good thing for games given the bottleneck would be elsewhere. You'd be miffed if you bought the system for productivity work, though.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Год назад +1

      Nice pick up, I missed that & it would be interesting to understand why it is only Boosting around 4-4.2GHZ as the BIOS says CPU 5.5 GHz at 11.21

    • @steph_on_yt
      @steph_on_yt Год назад +1

      I'm pretty sure that Afterburner is just reading the E-core frequencies. They never went above 4.3GHz, which lines up with stock E-core clocks. A 13900K wouldn't be pulling over 125W with such low frequencies on the P-cores.

  • @Chewbacca5682
    @Chewbacca5682 Год назад +4

    What i love the most is that... this is the one they chose to send you. Like they had the opportunity to send you a perfect build but then this shows up.

    • @miaomiaochan
      @miaomiaochan 6 месяцев назад

      Sad to say, they probably thought this was perfect...

  • @drizzle8309
    @drizzle8309 Год назад +3

    After reading the spec sheet for these things, it turns out Dawid went easy on them.

  • @Sundayinthelife
    @Sundayinthelife Год назад +4

    I wonder if putting two 120mm fans at the front will make much of a difference. Specifically, I guess, for the ram and vrm

  • @user-kb7pd1cl2w
    @user-kb7pd1cl2w Год назад +6

    It seems like the motherboard VRMs really bad or the power is limited, the CPU only boost to 4GHz in gaming which should be more around 5.5GHz.

    • @steph_on_yt
      @steph_on_yt Год назад

      I think Afterburner was just reading the E-core frequency. They only go up to 4.3GHz stock.

  • @AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup
    @AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup Год назад +1

    Every Ventus card I've ever had my hands on has sounded like a tornado, fighting a truckload of angry cats.

  • @inshallah4280
    @inshallah4280 Год назад

    That silent cool thing is what is known as a shroud. Obviously or maybe not obviously, it helps funnel air and is used in automotive applications for things like radiators (go figure). Many times running your car without the shroud will create cooling issues. They work very very well.

  • @sudd3660
    @sudd3660 Год назад +5

    the temps where impressive for a prebuild big brand. hopefully some fan rpm headroom left over, all stock fan profiles are twice what they should be.
    biggest let down is all that rgb and screen you pay for, and get annoyed with if it breaks or do not work right, especially after a few years. then there comes the maintenance, you will have a bad time dust cleaning this thing, radiators and no fan filter within this case odd airflow. its going to be really hot after a year and a hell to clean out.
    but if you notice these things like i do, you build pc's yourself and save some money and do it right.

    • @stephen1r2
      @stephen1r2 Год назад +1

      The CSM motherboard used here has no mosfet heatsinks so it will need a bit higher airflow

    • @sudd3660
      @sudd3660 Год назад +1

      @@stephen1r2 you are right, i would recommend people doing under-volting on cpu and Graphics card, or some kind of power limits. 5% performance loss with 30% less power usage is a win in my book.

  • @devilmikey00
    @devilmikey00 Год назад +7

    Always nice to see obvious cost cutting on a $5000 dollar system where there should be none.

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 10 месяцев назад

      Yeah that case is insulting, as is the motherboard, ram, and probably most insulting is the fact that they're including a hard drive in a 5 thousand dollar computer. My current pc cost less to build and it has 9 tb of ssd storage, which is a big reason why it cost as much as it did. (if you're wondering why its because bad internet so i dont have the luxury of reinstalling games on a whim and hdd are too slow for games these days)

    • @herbertwalter8693
      @herbertwalter8693 7 месяцев назад

      if you wanna spend 5k you can get almost anything lol who (uneducated people aside) would buy this?

  • @wezojad2362
    @wezojad2362 Год назад

    About that MSI bios, my motherboard (MSI MAG Tomahawk Wifi Z590) has similar one. You need change it from "easy mode" to the other one. There are all the settings, including RAM Speed. I think you change it by clicking F5

  • @kellypaws
    @kellypaws Год назад

    Nasty piano black and skew whiff trim? That’s a Vauxhall/Opel Insignia you’ve got there.

  • @electro4172
    @electro4172 Год назад +5

    New David Video YEEEESSS!

  • @pedro4205
    @pedro4205 Год назад +6

    I think MSI products usually feels cheap. It's just their trend. But i'm kinda disappointed that they didn't use the 4090 Suprim X for this one. Also, check the HP Envy Desktop series. It is a office computer with gamer internals and no plastic bullshit externally

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw Год назад

      HP motherboards are getting more and more terrible!

  • @billylacharity3443
    @billylacharity3443 Год назад +1

    I just love how brutally honest you are. I wonder if MSI is now regretting that.

  • @larsondavis8155
    @larsondavis8155 Год назад

    always love your videos.

  • @GroundGame.
    @GroundGame. Год назад +22

    Gotta give MSI where credit is due, their package and presentation standards are superb. 👌

  • @jomeyqmalone
    @jomeyqmalone Год назад +21

    The CPU was only showing 3.9 to 4.1ghz most of the time while gaming, which is a little strange, and might help explain how the CPU is staying relatively cool

    • @Ryan-re1rs
      @Ryan-re1rs Год назад +18

      The motherboard is power limiting the cpu because it's junk.

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw Год назад +1

      Also the GPU was a huge bottleneck so it was never fully utilized, not even close. I’d have tried 1080P Medium

    • @Zebra_Paw
      @Zebra_Paw Год назад +1

      @@Ryan-re1rs yeah probably too!

    • @RoseFBN
      @RoseFBN Год назад +7

      @@Zebra_Paw theres no way a 4090 is bottlenecking that system, its definately the motherboard

    • @jaredchampagne2752
      @jaredchampagne2752 Год назад +8

      @@Zebra_Paw did you just say that a 4090 was a “bottleneck”??? You can’t be serious...the most powerful GPU money can buy right now isnt bottlenecking anything broski.

  • @Vuunik
    @Vuunik Год назад

    Those temps were pretty good for the roasting you gave it

  • @MarkSynthesis
    @MarkSynthesis 4 дня назад

    This is what I imagine a first-generation Super-Playstation 3 server would look like: glossy piano black plastic, weird mismatched geometry, panels popping out and fingerprints. Big mid-2000's Sony energy coming from this. Which...there are probably people out there who really like that! It's just missing the Spiderman font.
    (On a side note, I have the 4K counterpart to that monitor, MPG321UR-QD. Contrast is definitely not amazing and HDR is kind of an afterthought, but the color accuracy is shockingly capable.)

  • @krusty6381
    @krusty6381 Год назад +35

    Thank you so much for your fair and honest reviews...MSI might not LOL. You and Gamers Nexus are the only channels that I believe the reviews any more.

    • @shaneeslick
      @shaneeslick Год назад +9

      HUB are Awesome too as they pull no punches either, Steve & Tim just lay it out straight as the results show

    • @db8989
      @db8989 Год назад +9

      I agree, HW Unboxed is also very recommendable 👍
      LTT and Jay have become a bit hit and miss imho.

  • @EvocativeKitsune
    @EvocativeKitsune Год назад +5

    Wow, that mobo I/O is unforgivable... My shitty prebuilt from 6 years ago has better I/O.

  • @TroyCarpio-zj8vk
    @TroyCarpio-zj8vk 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks realy help till now

  • @danb3785
    @danb3785 Год назад

    Do you get to keep it? A good follow up might be putting its components in a new case and comparing the thermals.

  • @AMDGBananaBen
    @AMDGBananaBen Год назад +7

    I figured it out.
    the build they were going for is a strange fusion of smart fridge/PS5 (at least in terms of aesthetics) =D

  • @Ranimetion
    @Ranimetion Год назад +8

    "MSI took some of the most powerful hardware in the world and stuffed it in to a case that looks like this.... And I can just not see a way in which that does not end terribly". You made me piss my pants in 41 seconds 🤣

  • @fleurdewin7958
    @fleurdewin7958 Год назад

    4:28 For such an expensive rig, I hope 12VHPWR connector on the RTX4090 doesn't melt under long gaming sessions. It is recommended that bends in the cables don't occur within 35mm of the connector to prevent the connector from melting.

  • @BWGPEI
    @BWGPEI Год назад

    That's more money than I would ever / have ever spent on a computer system. Yet my builds have run 3-D CAD software back when I was working for a living, so I must have been doing something right, grin. Thanks for showing / telling how things really are.

  • @mopioline65
    @mopioline65 Год назад +4

    Love how Dawid tells MSI at the end of the video thank you, when in the previous sentence he was dumping all over the PC's build quality and plastic materials. 😂

  • @Beisepimp
    @Beisepimp Год назад +6

    $5000 and the case is almost all cheap plastic like some $40 cases is a shame :D
    At least the temperature was better than expected. 🙂

  • @stetbro
    @stetbro Год назад

    looks like it was pulled right out of the original Bladerunner. That 80s retrofuturism.

  • @doc_o_pizza8655
    @doc_o_pizza8655 Год назад

    I dearly wish this were its own case because water cooling built in this case would looks sick like make it a lot bigger and make it a full tower and replace the black plastic on one side with all round the Glass

  • @drizzle8309
    @drizzle8309 Год назад +10

    $5000 and it comes with a HDD?
    What... the actual... fuck...
    Can't wait to find out what else they messed up.
    edit: wow, they actually fucked up in their own BIOS? That's a new low...

    • @stephen1r2
      @stephen1r2 Год назад

      It's fairly common for prebuilts to have a 500-ish ssd boot drive and a 4-ish (or more?) HDD for extra storage (If you target your DL, and Video folders manually to use it)
      The other issue stems from the CSM level board with no mosfet heatsinking

    • @drizzle8309
      @drizzle8309 Год назад +2

      I'm aware it's probably booting off an m.2, since the board has 3 slots.
      Common or not, when we're talking $5000, I'd expect all SSDs. Especially if it's a gaming PC. Also, the listing he shows at 12:05 actually only has a 2TB ssd (which is consistent with MSI's website). Both 13700k versions of this pc come with both a 1TB m.2 and a 1TB HDD, though, so I'm really not sure what they did here. But it doesn't bode well for it being a 4TB drive...
      Speaking of, I haven't actually seen any prebuilts with 4TB drives. That's actually pretty cool if that's true.
      Not sure how the lack of a mosfet heatsink relates to ram speeds? Do they need extra cooling for higher speeds? Regardless, it's their board, so it's a fuck-up either way.
      edit: well... the site says the 13900kf one comes with a 750W PSU, while both 13700kf versions have an 850W PSU, sooo I'm not sure we can trust that information.
      Also says the 13900 has an extra usb port, the "Power Efficiency Rating" of both 13700s is "ATX", the motherboard is a Z790... not the chipset, the motherboard. Like... which one?! Y'all got like 5 of em. The AIO is described as "liquid cooling" and while all three come with Windows 11 Home, they recommend Windows 11 Pro for businesses... Who's buying a 13900k x 4090 Pc for their receptionist?! And then half the marked specs, which is supposed to indicate differences, are just exactly the same.
      Man, how hard is it to keep track of 3 PC configurations... Grab one off the assembly line and check. Takes like 10 mins.
      That spec-sheet is a clusterfuck.
      How are these multi million dollar companies so incompetent?!
      It's cause they don't care, I know...

  • @bongerman42069
    @bongerman42069 Год назад +4

    $5000 for a pre built it better be insane

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 10 месяцев назад

      Insanely bad case, ram, psu, and motherboard! Oh, and a hard drive. If I spent 5g on a computer and it came with a hard drive it would get sent back.

  • @DBGamingFamily
    @DBGamingFamily Год назад

    "The Plastic Fantastic" is one of the best tag lines I think I have ever heard!!!!

  • @ronito4390
    @ronito4390 Год назад +2

    Would love to see the VRM temps on that MoBo, really does not look like something that should be housing a CPU that powerful - even if it is running at stock speeds. Also gets me wondering why they paired a 13900kf with a MoBo without overclocking capabilities - seems like they were really trying to justify the entry fee with certain hardware choices while simultaneously cutting corners with others (MoBo / RAM) / Case .

  • @HullarsRedDust
    @HullarsRedDust Год назад +3

    I absolutely love these gimmick prebuilts! An HDD and NO vrm cooling for over $5000 (lol)

  • @pointpop
    @pointpop Год назад +4

    'its put together like a tesla" LOL

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades Год назад +1

    For a 5000$ PC I would at least have expected them to include some front panel fans, for which there seems to be more than enough room

  • @rinji8362
    @rinji8362 Год назад

    I love it, I always wondered what happen to Stewie when he grew up.

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol Год назад +3

    MSI is known for making weird, unique cases!

  • @anthony.esper21
    @anthony.esper21 Год назад +5

    You'd expect a 5000$ PC, expecially from MSI to be build with reasonable materials. I wouldn't buy it for 2500$...

  • @edwardiganz2478
    @edwardiganz2478 Год назад +1

    One word for this review! BRUTAL

  • @matasa7463
    @matasa7463 Год назад

    That motherboard could use some alu or copper heatsink attached to the VRM. The 13900KF can draw a lot of power, which could potentially cause problems for the motherboard.
    The case really should be made better, but we can't expect too much from prebuild OEMs that aren't proper case makers.

  • @captinsparklezremix
    @captinsparklezremix Год назад +8

    As much as I love Dawid, it's is insane that he still chooses to bench GTA V on a 13900KF and 4090 based system. GTA V is essentially a geriatric patient at this point.

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw Год назад

      gta is that old game where physics is bound to fps

    • @xmateinc
      @xmateinc Год назад

      And doesn’t like to run over 140 fps. GTA IV is even worse!

  • @orenraveh1162
    @orenraveh1162 Год назад +3

    This One Is The Best Pre Built From Msi I Have Seen

  • @hovanthecool1995
    @hovanthecool1995 Год назад +1

    Your videos are awesome.

  • @LividNNeon
    @LividNNeon Год назад

    “The plastic fantastic” got to love it man

  • @rpsrps1
    @rpsrps1 10 месяцев назад

    Never commented before.
    The stars aligned.
    Brilliantly Dawid. 👏

  • @mrmrmrcaf7801
    @mrmrmrcaf7801 Год назад

    Good temps for top end parts pre-build ... I'm impressed, well done MSI

  • @manuelcosta224
    @manuelcosta224 Год назад

    Your Intro always give me an epiletic atack. But i always see the rest of the video !

  • @joshuagreer8046
    @joshuagreer8046 Год назад

    I have had that monitor for over a month now and my god is it amazing

  • @christiansmedman8917
    @christiansmedman8917 Год назад

    great video!

  • @JeremyWertheimerScience
    @JeremyWertheimerScience Год назад

    Keep up the snark. Those OEMs deserve it.

  • @Edward135i
    @Edward135i Год назад

    1:39 challenge accepted, I once watched a UPS driver throw a 65in OLED over some ones fence before.

  • @SurplusMarket
    @SurplusMarket Год назад

    Dawid, you should do a video reviewing Powerspec (Micro Center brand) pre-builts! I recently purchased one for $2500 USD, half the cost of this rig, and it has some pretty amazing components in it for the price, as well as really good build quality:
    -CPU: I9-13900K
    -GPU: Ventus 4070 Ti
    -RAM: G Skill Ripjaws DDR5 5600 mhz (with RAM speed already set to max speed)
    -Motherboard: MSI Pro Z690-A (has 2 extra NVMe slots)
    -Case: Lian Li ATX 205 Mesh
    -Storage: 2 TB WD Blue NVMe SSD
    -PSU: 850 W G+ PowerSpec branded PSU (not sure of quality)
    -Cooling: 3 140mm case fans, and a CoolerMaster ML240L AIO
    Perhaps you could even get them to do a sponsored video ;)
    Regardless, thanks for the content!

  • @1985J0k3R
    @1985J0k3R Год назад

    What keyboard are you using, did you consider making peripheral video "best mechanical keyboard/mouse" for gaming. Cheers!

  • @bw4593
    @bw4593 Год назад +1

    Actually some decent engineering here. Never get the slabs of plastic all these pre builds insist on slapping onto the outside, but I like some of the stuff they did inside…

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 10 месяцев назад

      Its a waste of engineering to try to keep using old tooling for the 90s era chassis. Especially insulting given msi makes standard atx cases that are actually of decent to good quality and given they are charging 5k for this abomination they really should have just used one of those cases.

  • @bigandymc2007
    @bigandymc2007 Год назад +1

    The naked vrms would be of concern with that cpu, if doing a very heavy cpu load for extended time in that case.

  • @loganbates2657
    @loganbates2657 Год назад

    Was very surprised by the cooling. Msi,Asus rog strix,hp all use the same design and a rog strip pre-built I had before ramped up to 98c in 2 minutes from the crappy case and the insanely small 1 fan that was included. Also the psu was a nice surprise as msi psus at least from my experience are great. I'm actually using a 700 watt one in my custom built pc. Only complaint I got it the modular wires are so rigid and stiff

  • @likilikiki
    @likilikiki Год назад

    I only ever bought one pre build pc and it was an Omen 870 something I think it was.
    Wasn't a real super high end thing but it was relatively cheap with an 8g amd gpu 16gb ram and i7 cpu.
    Only thing I was unhappy about was the small 256g ssd but other than that it was a fantastic machine.
    So if I would ever buy another pre build I'd definately go for an Omen again.

  • @connorjohnson4402
    @connorjohnson4402 Год назад

    I wonder if it has a proprietary BIOS on the MOBO despite it being identical to the retail boards they sell like most of the Trident series does. They never really update the BIOS's on their prebuilts either which really sucks especially since they kinda highlight the ability tp upgrade them. If you got one when they started implementing REBAR on boards/gpu you were basically SOL despite the retail boards getting the update, the prebuilt MOBO which has the same name as a retail board written on it its not compatible. I have a Z390 version and despite being named as a similar retail board its a different version number so not compatible, they also don't add a sata connector on one of the spots and one fan header.

  • @literallyhuman5990
    @literallyhuman5990 Год назад

    That case flex more than my back after working god damn

  • @brichardson342
    @brichardson342 Год назад

    Oem parts are usually gated from certain things especially in the bios

  • @princebanini
    @princebanini 11 месяцев назад

    Hey Dawid, nice video with funny commentary.
    I recently got into watches. I like the one you wore in this video. please whats the make and model ?

  • @kamvbrix5197
    @kamvbrix5197 Год назад

    lol I love the humor... I gotta like and sub now

  • @ShadowRune
    @ShadowRune Год назад

    Sometimes MSI hides their bios options and you have to do a special key combination to show them, I wonder if that's the case here

  • @LabCat
    @LabCat Год назад +1

    I would say "maybe you should update the BIOS, that might allow you to enable XMP"... but not only is that something a new PC owner shouldn't be obligated to search out, but MSI might have deliberately crippled that product because they figure no one will notice or care.
    Keep up the good work Dawid!