Film Theory: This is NOT A Batman Movie! (The Batman Trailer 2021)
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2020
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The new trailer for The Batman starring Robert Pattinson looks very interesting... and surprisingly familiar? You see, with all of the hints hidden in the newest trailer - and I don't mean the riddles - I think I've figured out the ending twist of this movie! Loyal Theorists, you may be thinking, "Matpat, how can you possibly know off of the trailer?" Never doubt my ability to theorize out of the smallest details! You see, I think the big twist of this movie will be that The Batman is actually... well you'll need to watch to find out!
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Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
Editor: Danial "BanditRants" Keristoufi and Koen Verhagen
Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
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POV: you just watched the Batman in the past day or two and are seeing how close MatPat was to getting it right
Accurate
Yep, just did
For doing this theory a year ago, he isn’t far off
How close was he, ppl who have seen it...?
@@lueysixty-six7300 give me 16 minutes I'll get back to you. Highly recommend this movie I loved it.
Matpat: wants to be Robin
His parents: starts sweating
I don't think Daimion's parents are dead.
@@ajmccorristin1125 more than one Robin
@@ajmccorristin1125 it's not his parents he is talking about, also there has been more then one robin, and it's not about robins parents dying its about him dying, both Jason Todd and Damian Wayne have died and have been brought back to life
Aj McCorristin his parents is batman and talia
He could be tim, It would make sense since time is a detective more then the other robins
What he got right from his theory
- The movie is heavily inspired by seven and zodiac
- riddler actually won cause he achieved most of his goals
- batman and riddler are both representing gotham's vengeance but they took different path
What he got wrong
- batman breaking his no killing rule
- the court of owl
idk about breaking the no killing rule especially in that car chase, but also no two-face
@@blaster1185 the car chase its not really him killing.. but it does show that this young batman is still pretty sloppy with his crime fighting gig
I actually think the court of owls was referenced in regards to the club, but Im not entirely sure if my memory was correct. There was no direct appearance though.
He partly got the killing rule right, the stadium fight he nearly kills one of the riddler goons until he's pried off by Gordon, not until he hears him say "I'm vengeance" does he realise his wrong path
@@blaster1185 Penguin causes the crashes, Batman just used it as a ramp
Well as someone who just watched this movie today. He’s not entirely wrong
yep
Ong 💀
he did kinda lose
@@vonwatiki2198 the city flooded, so I’d say he kinda lost.
Ikr
Of course Robert isn’t playing “Batman”
He’s playing Vengeance
No he’s playing a vampire.... *get it?*
vGodFN just stop. No ones going to subscribe to a bot
Ehi IKR 🤣 also I just checked your channel I thought it was pretty funny you just earned a sub 👍.
Ehi yeah
Ehi vengeance the vampire
DC: Quick change the script mat pat made a theory
Write that down!! Write that down!!
@@letsrank9349 lol I was going to make this comment.
Wait so DC watches MatPat
They dont watch matpat they stalk him
We need to make him wrong
Okay so after watching the movie, the spoilerfree answer is:
Some points where right, but he also got stuff wrong
Most of it
I loved the movie so much
@@jordanogplayer5247 same, it had a bit of weak sides, like the parent story was just awefully confusing.
But the rest was 10/10
@@THEJPIndustry here's what I gathered
A reporter uncovered mysteries of Thomas Wayne so Thomas wanted him to stop but he didn't so he went to falcone for help and by going to falcone he accidentally killed the reporter and he wanted to turn himself in to the police
But was killed, before he died he had a renewal project and since he died he didn't rule the project anymore, people went for the project to rule over it to get money from the project
@@karvenman well the renewal project was 1billion Falcon took it and used it to control the city.
But what was confusing was the story about the mother that the dad wanted to be left in secret
From what i understood :
Spoilerwarning
The mother of the mother of Bruce was abused by her father then killed her father infront of Bruce mother than killed herself and than Bruce mother had to be in a few Psychiatries.
But that was so Confusingly told i have no idea
This was lowkey close. You were almost spot on, other than a few details, beside the owls bit. Not bad considering it was a year ago
Could be revealed in later movies that the court was in fact behind a lot of it.
@@profbfc it needs to happen, I’m wearing my court of owls mask when it comes out
@@profbfc I mean falcone is pretty close to it and owls do have wings
I am shocked by close he was able to guess by a trailer tbh
not really at all, his whole theory is based around the court of owls, riddler being a failed talon, batman killing someone. He was not almost spot on, nothing about batman turning into a symbol of hope rather than vengence, nothing about riddler expecting batman to join him etc. Could you explain how he was "almost spot on"?
*Film Theory* : They don't actually have a full script, they release a trailer, wait for MatPat to make a theory of the script, then they use that script for easy stonks
The perfect Plan!
It’s free real estate
I'm convienced
@@MtnDewGuy100 nope, not interested🤣🤡
@@feignedphantom why not there giving books for free
I love how they stayed true to Batman not killing someone but just giving them lifelong brain damage
That poor guy will never be the same again.
@@SuperShanko poor sod is going to have to have everything in smoothly format 😂😂💯💯
Hey look the bots are invading mat pat’s space too
I love how you stole this comment
He straight up murdered joker once
You’re lying if you say that Edward Nygma from Gotham wasn’t the best (current) incarnation of the Riddler. He’s neurotic, casually okay with murder, and opens just about every conversation with a quick riddle almost too fast to process. His acting is fantastic, and he perfectly portrayed an “almost-but-not-quite psychopath”.
Just saw the movie, parts of this were right now but not all the way. Hope to see another theory on this movie
About 30% correct
@@sergiopillay5737 Which is impressive given when this theory was made!
DC : "Write that down...write that down this fool is making us millions again"
lol
Your comment made my day!!
Why make billions, when we can make... millions...
@@mehoymenoy8841 and trillions
@@mehoymenoy8841 million is smaller than billion...
MatPat: *Calls The Suicide Squad the dumbest naming convention since Wii U*
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe: *Sweats profusely*
My mom said if I could get 3k likes on my newest video she’ll buy me a professional setup so I could upgrade my content. Please please all I ask is for a like. Please and thank you 🚂
Nintendo really does have an impressive flair for naming, don't they?
Any revised version of a CAPCOM fighting game would like to have a word.
Evil Dead (2013): *Laughs without "The"*
@@endgameisbad2733 no.
12:30 I like how he said it was the final scene in the movie even though it was one of the first scenes.
Alright, seeing the movie a year later I say he got a solid 30-40% right in a sense but ultimately they made a well crafted and meticulous movie with way more twists and turns that he could account for
He got the obvious trailer things right and everything else he guessed wrong. The story is the exact opposite of what he predicted, the characters wrong and the whole final message/arc too.
"7 key characters"
Commissioner Gordon: "Am I a joke to you?"
Gordon was always unofficial sidekick, not a side.
Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson & Heath Ledger: No, but you could be...
He was always a supporting character.
He isn't commissioner yet. During years two and three it was Commissioner Savage.
@@Skullkaiser is savage the executioner or is that someone else?
Why do I feel that I've just watched a spoiler video, without it actually being a spoiler video.
As a Batman fan, I think he was wrong on this one.
He’s almost always wrong
@@jackolenski2884 nah, almost all the time he's almost right and sometimes right.
@@speeddigitalart5788 when’s the last time he’s been right? He said the new Batman film is going to be exactly like se7en. His only evidence is joker which was kinda like another movie.
@@jackolenski2884 I mean right or wrong it’s always just a “theory”. It’s more interesting at seeing the conclusion he’s made and the evidence and reasoning that gets him there
I'll call this partially correct. While it was very much a Batman movie, unlike the title of your video, you were sort of right with "Batman will lose"
He didn't see Riddler's big plan until the vans were exploding. He may have had a huge role in putting the Riddler in Arkham, and did stop the bloodbath Riddler had planned, but he didn't see Riddler's endgame until Gotham was being flooded.
After the second trailer dropped, The Court of Owls is even more likely to appear, since Bruce Wayne's dad was a part of it in some comics and there's that one scene where batman stands in the middle of a circle and in one of the sides it's written 'My father's sins'. Good one, Matpat!
Well most of our theories went down the drain lmao
@Dhiraj K. Sharma heh.
@Dhiraj K. Sharma Cry about it.
@Dhiraj K. Sharma that's why I love living in Mexico City
@Dhiraj K. Sharma Did you know that the court of owls actually make absolutely no appearance in the film? Also, Batman dies.
Film Theory: This is NOT A Batman Movie
Me: Why am I not surprised.
That Title is confusing.
It's not a Batman movie, cuz it's *The* Batman movie.
vGodFN stfu
Me: goes into RUclips comment section
People like you: I’m gonna make a confusing scripted comment
Me: *boom boom
vGodFN of course buddy, I’ll hit you up now
"Wonder womans new movie still looks promising"
Well that didn't age well
LOL I come from his WW84 review and thought the same when I heard that; that comment aged like milk.
@@suicidebxmber1234 lol
LOL!!!
Facts, real talk, I felt that, i died. Bruh, big oof. Etc.
Yeah
He was relatively close
Two face wasn’t in it, court of owls weren’t in it, his moral code was not broken. In fact it was actually enhanced, realizing vengeance isn’t the answer, he ends the movie saving civilians. & People are saying “how close Matpat was to getting it right…” that’s just a nice way of saying he was wrong.
I did like how his moral code was further affirmed. He definitely missed a lot on this one. That’s fine, but no point pretending he was close.
To be fair 2 Face was a technically in it, sure it was for like 2 minutes at the end of the movie but he was in it.
@@dyl.p9743 I thought that was the joker..
@@dyl.p9743 no he wasn’t
@@naiosms5816 honesty might’ve been, I was really tired by the end of the movie
Can we all just take a second to think about what Matpat’s seach history looks like?
**Knock knock knock** *FbI oPeN uP!*
They're not talking about
nah
"How to masturbate the scientific way"
“What’s the amount of force needed to break human bones?”
Title: "This is not a batman movie"
Me: *Wondering why the movie is called Batman*
i think he means that its a copy of seven
It's called The Batman which is something someone that isn't batman would say.
I think he meant it was not going to be the kind of Batman movie we're all used to. Like how the Joker movie's portrayal of the character was different from what we were used to.
It’s THE BATMAN
ikr
Too many villains?
Spiderman no way home: hold my beer
It feels weird seeing a theory and knowing the answer is wrong
It's close in many aspects though especially Riddler's last target being Bruce Wayne
@@profbfc he gave so many guesses one of them had to be right
Well... It's not an answer as it's literally a *theory*. An educated guess on this topic. Never treat a theory as an answer unless it's officially proven by the main source
Matpat: Mentions court of owls
Me: Gotham flashbacks
Lol same 🤣
Same with Carmine to me
Let me get this straight: You comment something that is unrelated to the fact that I have two DANGEROUSLY DASHING girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest RUclipsr ever, having two hot girlfriends is really incredible. Yet you did not mention that at all. I am quite disappointed, dear pasta
AxxL uh what? And who asked?
@@outthepark5766 yea, I think it triggered a nerve or somethin
Batman: I am vengeance
Also Batman in Batman vs Robin: Justice, not Vengeance
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That's because he hasn't reached that moral experience at this point of Battinson's career...
this is a young batman, and usually, his drive for vengeance fades as years go by
i'm vengeance,i am the the night, i'm Batman
@@normansmith9009 lets hope so, dc's movie Batman has had a lot of unpredictable angst so far.
You say his moral code was broken, but it was pretty much fixed by the end of the film, becoming a symbol of hope, not fear.
He was so close, but still so far
DC: They figured it out, we gotta do 4 months of retakes.
SUBVERTED EXPECTATIONS.
You give a lot of credit to the stupidity of this kid. The film is not even 25% recorded and if Pattison dies of COVID, may never be finished. Don't hope for Robert Pattison to die, but would be nice that this movie would never see the light.
Edward Alvarez Christ Edward
@@drawdebono77 Dude..get off the internet. Actually, get off the world.
“This is ACTUALLY a movie based off of FNAF 2, and here’s how....”
Xd
I would whole heartedly be convinced lmao
No, no it isn’t. It’s based off of the comics.
@@cjpanda1017 naw
@@cjpanda1017 r/woooosh
Phenomenal movie overall. Super fun to come back to these after seeing the whole movie.
Gotta say, you got the general gist of it. Nicely done Mister Theory.
Just watched it 10/10, 3 spoons, God tomato i loved it my fab apart from the suicide squad
The real way riddler will break batman by telling him that his parents were also involved in gotham's corruption becasue in the comics the Wayne's have some relation with the court of owls
The tell tale batman series had this story line where Bruce's dad was neck deep with the mob
would be interesting if in the end, the murder of his parents was an act of revenge from somebody who was severely wronged by their crimes.
maybe even lost his/her own family members. and left their child alive, because they couldn't do it out of their moral.
Making the person who killed his parents, a better person than they were. the kind of person batman would protect, against people like his parents.
Depends. The new incarnations have them with the court of owls. In the older comics he was slightly connected to the falcone crime family.
Sullivan Dmitry it could be a possibility I mean they were also rich
If they take it away, what motivation does he have to fight crime? Because hes a good person? It would virtually break all his character building
Everyone: I think he nailed it.
Matt Reeves: Go on...
**writing intensifies**
Im pretty sure the movie is based on the comic, A LONG HALLOWEEN
@@CoolMyron I believe he just said that was just one of many inspirations, I don't know if he actually said "based off" however im sure some website made that claim.
Cool Myron IT IS! That’s what I’ve been trying to flipping say! Matt said it himself that The Riddler is the stand in for the Holiday Killer.
If he did nail it, that would be the proverbial nail in Cinematic Batman being remotely recognizable compared to the spirit of Batman as he has come to be
It takes a lot from TDK first.. and somehow it reminds me a bit of the "Gotham" TV series regarding it's ton. No?
7:35 that didn’t age well lol
Matpat was so closee. He went a bit too far at the end but the se7en comparison is dead on.
Fun fact about The Suicide Squad: James Gunn pitched the title as a joke and Warner bros actually liked it and used it
What, suicide squad has existed since 1960, what are you talking about
John Dew Think he’s talking about “The” Suicide squad, not the name itself.
@@jdproductions3588 To be honest I sort of like it... we do have Aliens after all :D
I like it. It sound like it’s talking about THE suicide squad aka James gunns comic book inspired version not the last suicide squad which was barely connected to a comic
@@TheRezro Aliens following Alien was a creative title play in the day, whereas in the age of the 21st century we have to be a lot more creative with the titles, especially when the prequel was lackluster. Also Alien 3 was both crap as a movie and badly named compared with its prequels.
At risk of sounding like a complete moron:
What if when Riddler tells Batman "You're apart of this too" he means because Batman only takes down low-level thug criminals instead of the corrupt elite of Gotham, he is unknowingly allowing the corrupt high status individuals in the system to continue to function behind the scenes.
I don't know, if it was year one and he stuck to petty thugs or something maybe, but if this is truly a detective driven story it's not a stretch for him to already know there's higher corruption. The issue then becomes how far reaching and deep it is.
The "you'll see" response in the end doesnt seem to add up with your theory... But HEY...
@@royanque8374 it could be the Riddler telling Batman that he will see how far the corruption of Gotham goes after he exposes them and/or kills them. Hence the "you'll see". In all honesty I am kind of just grasping at straws at this point haha
The teacher in me cannot let apart take the place of a part. "I will take him apart" is different from" I will give his hair a part."
Dude....Batman vigilante activity itself are corruption 😁
Most of the predictions were completely on point, but most of the reasons they happened weren’t. And yes, the David Fincher influence was impossible to miss.
this movie has proven to be so much more than expected. 10/10
Inevitable “well this aged well” comment a year early
Ironic enough that response works both ways I don't know if you did that on purpose
I bet this will age well.
Yeah lol
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Well he didn’t do too good with Star Wars theories just saying
MatPat: I'm gonna set a new record and predict this plot a FULL YEAR EARLY
New Rockstars: Am I a joke to you??
There it is :D I was looking for this specific comment
I'm suprised he didn't mention Eric's break down of both of the riddles, and all of the hints.
@@Cobra-Commander83 possibly a little toooo on the nose :p haha
YES
what did they predict correctly a year ahead?
I like how he had some interesting angles with this, although it didn’t end up being right. In a sense Batman was challenged. His code and perspective were brought into it.
But it’s not all wrong. Batman saw himself at one point as the last target. And in some ways I can see how this theory came about.
Thankfully it wasn’t this. This movie ironically had a more positive message.
There were a lot of villains but only 4 of them played big roles
I have a theory: Batman’s secret identity is Bruce Wayne
No that’s impossible it has to be Clark Kent
Yeah right, are you telling me the butts match?
Guys I think it will probably be barry allen tho
My disappointment is immeasurable. I thought he's Edward Scissorhands😄
Bruce Wayne? Nah he seems to be too much of a coward for me and also he is too busy with his money to dress like a Bat
"Most spoiled moment in movie history?" Luke's father would like a word with you.
“No, I am your father”
“NOOOOO!”
Dumbeldore's killer would also like to talk.
@@zaam5506 he never actually says luke
Snape kills Dumbledore
@@zaam5506 No, I am your father*
Watching this video after the release of “No Way Home” makes that Spider Man movie villain bit soooo much funnier
Oh my God MatPat.
Unreal amounts of things you got to the point!!
It's not Two-Face, it's Mad Hatter. Those twins are identical and red-headed, so they're more likely Tweedle-Dee and Dum.
That seems more agreeable, we haven’t got a movie with the Mad Hatter yet
Could be 2 of the 3 Jokers
I so so hope so! I was thinking about how cool it would be to get Mad Hatter finally in a movie.
Ah, good ol’ jervis tetch, I remember him from Arkham city
i know its weird but somehow i want Hush to be in the Movie
Just to tempt fate, let’s actually take it a step further in the Se7en comparison and do the match-ups:
Wrath: Batman, because “I am vengeance!”
Greed: Catwoman, because she loves shiny things and hasn’t fought Batman enough times yet to have an interest in his “utility belt.”
Envy: Riddler, because he sees himself as Batman’s friend and equal.
Pride: The Court of Owls, because they’ve been running Gotham for centuries.
Sloth: Falconers, the old gangster who’s let supervillains take over.
Gluttony: Penguin, because he keeps eating up territory for himself
Lust: Two-Face, because he represents Harvey Dent’s darkest desires set free (and because giving Catwoman Lust seems like too easy an out)
EDIT: To everyone who's commented "What about Chatacter X?" or "Character Y is not in this movie", I made this based off of the characters MatPat listed in the video. There are plenty of Batman characters who are better fits to the 7 Deadly Sins (Envy is obviously Clayface) but these 7 were the ones MatPat used so I wanted to build on his theory.
This is a really good match up, nice
Cool
I wondered why the name is "the court of owls" then I remembered a DC alternate universe where Bruce has a brother and became Owlman.
Lust should be poison ivy.
Nice
After seeing this movie and coming back to this video, I am actually surprised to see how accurate this interpretation ended up being.
i mean it was kinda the opposite with a broken batman becoming a true hero at the end
He was right though. Batman lost.
@@meowcow21Not in the same sense though
MatPat: "I'm gonna do what is called pro gamer move by spoiling the movie before it even got released"
What a mad lad
I know!!
What a “MatPat”
These guys keep evolving every year
T
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Dude he’s topped even that. He’s spoiling the movie before it’s even bloody finished 😆
Matpat: predicts entire movie
The Producers: "He's too dangerous to be kept alive!"
lets change the movie completely
@@pleadingnut if they want my money at the cinema, they better
DC gonna send their assassins to snuff Matpat before we know it
I think the accurate parts of this theory were details that were made pretty obvious by the trailer
He was within point blank range of getting it right
Even if this doesn't happen, this would be a great batman movie.
Im pretty sure the movie is based on the comic, A LONG HALLOWEEN
Dima Twee Not if Batman kills.
@@HurricaneDDragon Unless it's Frank Miller's Batman.
@@channe3049 this is confirmed to be a younger Batman.
Dima Twee It would be better if it was wrong.
Film name is batman: THIS IN NOT A BATMAN MOVIE
Ah, yes the floor isn't made of floor
Well duh, the floor is lava, everyone knows that.
True. The "Floor" isn't made of Floor. It's made of Tile, Wood, Concrete, etc.
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LMAO
7:40 watching this after no way home and, welll, sometimes lots of villains is good
Well to be honest he was right…just backwards
Riddlers outfit in the trailer is simply a way to ensure NONE of his DNA is at that crime scene. First thing I noticed as an actual crime scene investigator.
So you're telling me they sacrificed a bright green suit for the sake of practicallity?
@@mihneaiordan1813 ngl i love where this is going
@@mihneaiordan1813 Just means this version of the Riddler is not a clown and he *really* wants to win
As a person with OCD (in lots of version Riddler also has OCD) - I thought that this outfit also gives the perfectionist vibe with how the crime was meant to be perfect and his persona not identified.
Yikes.
"This is NOT a Batman movie!"
Then why is there a sketchy man dressed as a bat running around beating people to a pulp?
I think what he meant is that this movie will not really focus on batman per se. It might revolve around riddler with batman as a mere plot device.
@UCb12Drse9qB8rfNbABjP3AQ Yeh, I kind of consider this statement as ironic.
thats man bat
@@CoolMyron I CAN'T HELP I CAN'T BREATH
@@sampepper7682 sorry?
“It’s not a Batman movie” Batman in the movie for the full 3 hours
Good call on 7even and Zodiac! 👌
The Dark Knight had Joker, Scarecrow, Two-Face, and Falcone as villians, two of them being minor.
Yes I also assume most of the villians will be there just to set the tone and get people hyped to recognize them.
It would be a fail if they did a 1960s batmovie style teamup or spend the time having batman take down multiple different plots throughout nthe film.
Falcone was in dark knight? Never noticed that, that’s cool
@@raptorman4035 He got lifted up by the bat.
Falcone wasn’t in dark knight. That was maroni
It is because The Joker takes the focus of all audiences and no one does actually realise there are alot of villains. So in a way Heath Ledger's performance is what made this a masterpiece.
The thing with having 6 or more villains, they don't need to feature extensively and have an indepth storyline. They can use it as a way to introduce a villain to the universe, they don't even have to have an interaction with Batman during the movie because if they do it skilfully enough then they can simply tee up the sequels and have a trilogy or more of movies which interweave between themselves.
They could set up two face for two
I hope the Joker shows up at some point. Yes, I've heard people say that they're sick of the Joker, but I think we need him more than ever in this day and age. Almost all the comic book films are ultra-serious now, so the Joker is your only option if you want to get away with having a funny villain.
Rumor mill has it that Marvel had done the same for the Punisher's entrance into the MCU. In two separate scenes in phase 1 an independent yellow Penske moving truck assists the heroes in pivotal moments. The driver was to be ultimately revealed as Frank Castle. It's likely BS, but cool idea all the same.
Well it's supposed to be a new batman trilogy, so maybe your right.
The Dark Knight Rises featured five, Ra’s Al Ghul, Scarecrow, Bane, Talia Al Ghul and Catwoman, not all had prominent roles.
Watched the whole film, but he was almost right about the plot.
_At least, Batman inspires hope._
Quite close, except for the part about Batman breaking his moral code. In fact far from it. He becomes less violent and bitter and angry and starts to believe he needs to be a beacon of hope, not vengeance.
The riddler says, “your apart of this too...” he’s talking about the court of owls bc they exist within Wayne Interprise and several memeber of the council at Wayne Interprise are members of the court of owls. That’s also why he says, “what is the price of ur blind eye...” he’s talking about how Bruce fails to see that they exist within his own company
I think what he means by that is that the justice system is very corrupt and people within it turn a blind eye to crime. He knows batman works with that same corrupt justice system and believes batman has a point where he will turn a blind eye to crime. But your theory is interesting nonetheless. I'm very excited for the movie.
lord donk Batman doesn’t work with the police in the movie. They are having a “truce” it happens all the time in the first 2 years of Batman’s career in the comics.
@@dustinthewind4516 how could they have a truce and not be working together? I assume at the very least he is speaking with gordon. Not sure how close to the comics this will be.
lord donk I believe it’s a temporary truce. And this is ONLY year 2.
@@dustinthewind4516 I see. Hopefully the movie is as good as the trailer. I definitely get the lex luthor "if god is all powerful than he cannot be all good and if he is all good he cannot be all powerful" vibe from the riddler. With the riddler in place of lex and batman in place of superman.
I think the riddler believes batman is corrupt or corruptable. Maybe that fight scene is actually at the start of the movie and thats what makes the riddler target him. Maybe the riddler sees a difference between justice and brutality. Maybe he thinks there cannot be justice that is motivated by vengeance.
2019: Joker isn't "THE JOKER"
2021: Batman isn''t "THE BATMAN"
lol what???
What next 2023:flash isn’t flash or green lantern isn’t green lantern or whatever dc superhero/villain movie is next
@@springfox6470 Captain Marvel isnt Captain Marvel. She is Captain Marvel
Joker was about the guy who inspired Batman's Joker. At least, that's how I interpreted it.
ChemAndAdrenaline i’ve heard that theory, but honestly i wouldn’t like that at all. Phoenix was a great joker and i’d rather see him than anyone else play him. It’s also a new universe so they created their own origin story and their version of the joker. Tbh i don’t think there should be a squeal but if there is i hope phoenix is the joker
@@thatbrownchild9922 @ChemAndAdrenaline It is basically an alternate universe, or could be. It is called DC Dark, one of the multiverse. He is not the joker from comics, or joker form the DC Film Universe. This takes heavy inspiration from the comics, sure. Bruce's Early batman fighting days. That joker is a different joker, but again... There is 3 jokers...
Well MatPat, I think its safe to stay, *you were wrong*
Huhhh he got like 50% right
One of your best theories and I always come back to it.
I'll tell you what: young Bruce is about to find out that his sacred parents were criminals.
Oohh, that would be cool!
Honestly, I'd love to see that. He's always had a fantastical view of them. After losing them so young he was never able to see them as flawed humans, just idealistic guardians. I'd love to see that actually challenged.
@@RooftopRose079 TellTale beat them to it.
TTS
That has been done quite a few times now with the Court Of Owls storyline, would be cool to see in a movie tho.
Missed opportunity to say "Two Face might probably show his "FACES" somewhere"
I thought that too lol
Dad puns
your not wrong
Anyone who went back here after watching the new trailer? I think pat nailed the movie references. Plus the catwoman
Bruh he almost got it
“Beware the Court of Owls, that watches all the time,
Ruling Gotham from a shadowed perch, behind granite and lime.
They watch you at your hearth, they watch you in your bed.
Speak not a whispered word about them, or they'll send the Talon for your head.”
*cough* stealing this *cough*
Court of owls bat man movie would be good, but Id like a movie of The batman who laughs or a red hood movie. If done right it would be epic
Have u seen the animated movies, I’d think you’d like them
Batmam vs robin
@@Ohaechesi that's WAAYY down the line
Matpat in 2022: *solving movies 5 years before they're even announced*
Nihalol in 2025: solving movies of franchises that don’t even exist 10 years before they’re even thought of
@@JosephZaidan-tf2vu in 3071: solving franchises of movies that don't even exist 25 years before they're even thought of
@erf ss in 15000 Solving every possible action that could potentially occur throughout the entire universe.
This is actually extremely close to the movie.
If we squint a little the only off part is Batman's ideal shattered in a different way. Well played.
Agree, just watched it.
just watched the batman lol.. almost got it matt
I think that Riddler have lots of inspiration on "Batman: Hush".
Yes, i thought about hush as well.
- The riddler as one of the main villains
- a whole entourage of villains
- Batman being pushed over the edge that he (nearly) kills someone
it really sounds a bit like hush
and the guy with the bandaged face might actually be hush and not the riddler, who knows
@@Hazardou5 i think Reeves may have combined the characters of Hush and Riddlers to create something new? But who knows
I didn't even realize film theory had less than 10 mil subscribers
He’s getting there
Hit the subscribe button and ring the bell
I really thought it did but i guess that's game theory that has more than 10 mil
No-one did
I think it’s because of game theory we haven’t noticed
So close, Mat, the movie did have Riddler (partially) win, Batman didn't lose his morals, he just learned how his crusade to rid of Gotham's corruption will be a long time battle, a war against crime, and that he will need to do more than being an Agent of Vengeance to do it.
Very close, actually was very close to the movie plot, without many clues, maybe mat Pat is the riddler
i highly doubt that batman killed that guy he just broke more half of his bones and gave him amnesia
MatPat: The Riddler is going to win!
DC: ... Well, crap, now we have to change it!
MatPat is wrong like 90% of the time, so I doubt it.
@@DeathbatOfSpades I hope he isn't wrong and I REALLY fucking hope they don't change it!!!
It could be so easy for them to change it right now since this theory is so early.
He gotten some theorys right
MatPat.
Alfred will be BRUCE'S tipping point.
In the clip. You see the riddler atop a body about to use masking tape.
And there is also a clip where batman slowly walks into a group of GMPD and towards a chair with a dead person and his head taped with writing on it.
It also seemed that it was a somber moment.
Edit:
Vengeance. For whom? His parents? Or Alfred?
this theory is basically the opposite of the actual movie HAHAHAH
Very very close but you got derailed with the Court of Owls. Nice try either way. I'm really glad that you were not right haha.
Dear Team Film Theorists, something’s been bothering me for quite a while now and maybe you can find the answer...
How freaking rich are Roger and Anita (from 101 Dalmatians) to provide food for this amount of dogs EVERYDAY.
I mean... how much food is it anyway?
I have ONE cat and it’s a fair amount of money I have to spend per month, to provide food.
I‘m just so curious, because if one cat is semi expensive (if you feed the good stuff) then how much must ist cost to provide for 101 dogs?
Greetings from the other side of the pond
Not even mentioning that Roger is portrayed to be a starving musician, yet is somehow able to live in a large apartement in the center of London...
Well, at the end of the movie, Roger suggests that they should become breeders. Im not saying that that makes alot of money, but some shelters and breeders get donations, so that could be of some help.
Agata T yeah it makes no sense! i need an explanation
@@agatat6767 yes
Check out my batman theory video brah
Matpat get's slowly better at predicting movies
5 years later: I know what happens in dc endgame before it's anounced
*announced
@@laairo i'm sorry it's not my main language so thanks
@@ferraswansen4909 ok well no prob then
It's funny how close you actually came til you jumped onto the court of owls theory.
interesting theory thatt got some aspects right, but mostly didn't age well. Still an admirable effort for that long ago.
This would actually work because of the riddler second riddle from the movie ""If you are justice, please do not lie, what is the price for your blind eye?" The answer is innocence
Austin Kingery I don’t see how the answer is that
I heard it was Lady Justice who is blindfolded, and no offense but Innocence doesn’t really fit into that riddle.
I dunno what you guys mean it makes some sense.
Justice is often depicted blindfolded and not able to see, as justice should be blind. However, turning a blind eye means ignoring undesirable information. If justice is to be blind and only care about the truth, is truth only that of what is most convenient or desirable? And at what cost to Gotham/society?
He's asking what's Batman's price for turning a blind eye to daytime crimes such as corruption and only focusing on night time crimes.
I honestly want this movie to be the best batman film, or at least so good it's tied with The Dark Knight.
RP has proven himself to be an incredible actor from what i've seen of 'The Lighthouse'.
We ignore Twilight because he himself resents being in the film
@@dylanroemmele906 I remember he said his favourite twilight film was breaking dawn.
but thats because he's barely in it lol
I think it’s gonna be the best Batman movie
@@raymoney6503 let's not go that far yet... I still have high hopes for this movie
I really liked his role in Tenet too
Man I can't wait for a theroy after he watches the movie, that movie was amazing.
Here we are on the eve of The Batman and some right, some wrong. Good job MatPat and team!