The Pilot Who Didn't Know Where He Was | The Crash Of Alitalia Flight 771
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This is the story of Alitalia flight 771. On the 7th of july 1962 Flight 771 was flying from Kingsford smith airport in sydney to Rome's fiumicino airport. Since this was the 1960s it had a bunch of stops in between. It had stops in Darwin Australia, Don mueang bangkok, Bombay India, Karachi Pakistan and Tehran iran. It was Late in the day on the 7th of july the plane was approaching Bombay india,the plane was in touch with bombay center, they were currently at 36,000 feet and they expected to be on the ground at bombay by 6:45 PM GMT or 12:15 am.As they passed the city of aurangabad at 6:26 PM GMT or 11:56 pm local time they were in contact with bombay approach and were also descending down to 20,000 feet. The crew said “ Leaving flight level 350 down to 200, bombay at 45”. ATC gave them the details for the airport including the QNH values. The crew expressed their interest to land on runway 27.
As the plane approached the airport they got down to 5000 feet on its way to their assigned altitude of 4000 feet.
ATC wanted to know if flight 771 would be making a straight in approach or if they wanted to do a 360 degree orbit.
ATC asked "771 request your intentions Are you coming straight in from the outer marker for landing runway two seven or making a three sixty over the outer marker then reporting leaving outer marker inbound over?" Alitalia 771 was cleared to do a 360 over the outer marker, they now had to let ATC know when they were done with the 360 and when they were heading back towards the airport.
ATC confirmed what they had just discussed “"Roger understand you will be making a three sixty over the outer marker, Report leaving outer marker while proceeding making a three sixty” Alitalia flight 771 replied with roger will do alitalia flight 771. This was the last time that they heard from the airplane. After ATC didn't hear back from the plane a search and rescue mission was started they found the wreck of the plane on a hill called davandyachi near the airport. None of the 94 occupants made it.
The crash site told the investigators quite a bit, the plane was on a heading of 240 when it struck the mountain and it was in level flight, the first officer's altimeter was recovered and it showed the correct altitude that the plane was at. In addition to that all of the plane was at the crash site, all major parts were accounted for.
The investigators talked to the flight dispatcher at bangkok, the flight dispatcher prepared an operational flight plan or a company flight plan. Now he says that he handed the flight plan over to the pilot in command but the pilot in command had not signed for the document to show his acceptance. As per the Alitalia operations manual this was compulsory. So with no signature we have no way of knowing if the pilots actually had the flight plan prepared but the flight dispatcher, this flight plan was not recovered from the wreck. The chief pilot of alitalia admitted that a lot of pilots did not consider the company flight plan to be absolutely essential, sure they were supposed to have it onboard but a lot of pilots didn't. 
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There's a saying in aviation, "Modern procedures are written in blood."
They say that about every trade, and it's true. All regs are written in blood in every Industry.
@@bigimskiweisenheimer8325 I was going to say the same thing. Any company who embraces a safety culture mentions this. Definitely true!
It's much like modern medicine.
in today's standards "old school" piloting sounds like complete madness, who in their right mind would fly a metal tube full of passengers that trust your skill, when the pilot doesn't know the terrain, the company has no clear guidance, the ATC isn't briefing about the local terrain, and there's no recording of the cockpit???!?
But just like transplants, open heart/brain surgery surgery or just any invasive medical procedure, people died and we all learn allot about what is needed to keep people alive. I'm personally always amazed how planes can just fly like, while also being slightly afraid because if shit goes done, I have to trust the dude that said "the weather is calm and about -5C" but he didn't mention what instruments he's using, what the oil temperature of the engine are, or what the hell was that random bang I just heard (probably the brat in seat 24F)
I WORRY THAT THE INDUSTRY GETS LAX BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEST RECORD.
@@ronniewall1481 boeing is evidence of that. So are many other accidents caused by negligence.
I have been a dispacher in the 70's / 80's (served at my homebase LSZH and many offline stations),
however, never heard of two flight plans for the same flight.
NB: At that time many flight plans where made manually without computer.
Was a great challange and lots of fun.
Felix Niederhauser
They used sticks in the control tower
*dispatcher
ATC does way more now than in the 1960s *exactly* *because* of accidents like this.
Errors were made. People died. Improvements were made. That is the story of flight since the beginning
Improvements are bought with blood.
...and ATC got the equipment to do the job. At the time of the accident not even Atlanta had radar with transponder overlays. Terrain overlays where usually manually drawn markers on top of the radar screen.
Most of the earth is ocean, which, one presumes, is at sea level. But large areas are still not covered by radar. It cost $300 million to find Air France flight 447. (744?)
@@lisaschuster9187
Why didn't they tie a string on it?
It's incredible, how much safer flying has become since the 1960's.
Driving too!
BACK IN THE 1700'S THEY HAD NO PLANE CRASHES
@@ronniewall1481 I heard there were 0 car accidents that entire century as well. And people weren't distracted by cell phones. Coincidence???? 😂😂😂😂
@@guykiernan537 ah, the good old days where everyone died of snallpox and plague. Wonderful.
Edit: if you couldn’t tell this was sarcasm.
@@adsrbad9733 And tuberculosis.
My first flights were in 1966, a Delta DC-8 followed by an American DC-9. Very civilized, people dressed up and flight staff called me sir even though I was 8. Over the next 5 years I flew on the DC-3 mail run (Central and Frontier) which literally stopped every 30 miles between Dallas and southeastern Oklahoma. 5 or 6 stops on a 240 mile trip. That would flying was fun! On my first leg a guy told me not to worry, that the DC-3 was named the best plane of the year. As he got off in Durant, OK he hold that it was named the best plane in 1936! Creep. Still, those flights that had none of the conveniences of the DC-8 or 9, were the most reassuring flight experiences I had at that time and I would say it holds true through today. I’m so grateful I experienced that.
Yes, it has certainly deteriorated over the years. I recall my father making me wear a suit and tie to catch a plane. It was a great experience once, now its as bad as catching a bus full of arrogant, stand offish, ignorant individuals... and just as cramped.
So cool that you've been on a DC3. Beautiful plane wth those strange square (dangerous) windows. Very neat.
@@julieleimkuehler1409 actually they're not dangerous because the dc-3 isn't pressurized. The Comet was the first pressurized airliner so that's when we found out. Square windows were the norm before that point.
@@superj8502 ooh ok! Thanks for that info. Yeah I remember the Comet. Ty again.
I would fly often in the early 1960's as a child on TWA and Air France from Chicago to Paris, and my dad would put family members on seperate planes in case there was a crash so as not to lose the whole family. In fact the reason I was put on TWA in 1962 was because Air France had had a series of crashes in 1962 with the Boeing 707. So yes, as is often the case with a new type of aircraft, in this case, Jets, crashes were a frequent occurance and something to consider in contingency planning
Great video, thanks. I didn’t know about that one.
From a 30k hour airline captain, sounds like 100% crew error to me!
Your comment on terrain clearance is surprising for me. I did not fly back in the 60s, I got my pilots license way past the 2000s, but even then we were instructed that ATC clearances do NOT take terrain into consideration, with the one exception being radar vectoring. I actually had a flight once where a controller would have ordered me straight into a mountain, because the small aircraft I flew was unable to climb fast enough to get over it... The advantage today though is that you have things like TAWS that keep you clear...
Interestingly enoug, acouple of years ago a swiss military jet flew into a mountain exactly because of this.
I’ve been checking these videos out for a good 6 months so I’ve liked and subscribed finally, not as flashy as some of the others (who are also very good) I do learn a lot about what happened !! Keep up the great work, also your voice really adds to the story telling !!
Introverted silent flight is borin, a voice is good
I'm from Bombay too. Love your vids. Keep up with the good work.
Thanks!!
Im not from Bombay. But hey, we see the same sun and moon right?
Peace ✌
@@bigimskiweisenheimer8325 nicely said. Where are you from?
Baltimore, Maryland. U.S.A.
Do Indians prefer the name bombay or Mumbai, same question with madras and chennai
As a heavy flyer, I flew everything from 707‘s from coast to coast, to DC threes in and out of Aspen Colorado. This issue was sadly now just one more evolution of flying commercially. I’ve studied commercial aviation that occurred during the 1920s on in Alaska, and it just proves to me that no matter how good we think we are at some task, We always have room for improvement. As long as we have sincerely been trying to do our best, this story exemplifies why we have had to incessantly updating and learning aviation in massive ways. Great posting
The odd adage, "Measure twice; cut once," has probably been around before humans took to the sky in planes but the same always holds true. At least in construction, you usually only waste a perfectly good board when you make this mistake.
THATS WHY I DONT MEASURE.
WHEN I BUILD I TRIANGULATE.
Yeah, uhh...I use a tape measure. It works for me.
@@bigimskiweisenheimer8325 TRIANGULATION IS A LOT EASIER ONCE YOU KNOW IT. NO NEED TO READ NUMBERS OFF TAPE. IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR NON SQUARED ANGLES TO BE MEASURED.
ON A PLANE THERE IS ONLY ONE POINT THAT WILL MATCH. WITH ONE STEP YOU NOT ONLY MEASURE DISTANCE BUT ALSO ANGLE.
I'VE CUT A PIECE OF PLYWOOD BEFORE ONLY TO FIND THAT THE WALLS WEREN'T SQUARE SO YOU HAVE A GAP. TRIANGULATION SOLVES THAT.
@@bigimskiweisenheimer8325 GOOD FOR MEASURING DISTANCE ONLY A TAPE CAN NOT FACTOR IN ANGLES.
@@ronniewall1481 Why are you always shouting?
This guy deserves more subs than he has. 👍
I dont think many people understand the amount of preparation the pilot,first officer,dispatch actually do before a flight.
I am basing this on what Corporate pilots do and suspect similar to airline pilots.
I think a lot of people figure the pilot gets in turns the key and just flys.
Great videos!
I subscribed!
Galja.
Why should we, it's their job to understand not ours?
With so many landings and takeoffs along this route it must have been mentally exhausting for the flight crew. A terrible tragedy but another great video.
I believe there was crew change at one point. Crew used to stay away from home for very long time. I remember talking to an alitalia steward who retired in 1970 just when alitalia got the 747's. He told me that he used to operate one sector from Rome to Paris and stopover for a week as there was only one flight a week. I had just finished my 4 sectors between London and Paris
Reminds me of the flight in the miracle of the Andes. They literally used dead reckoning. Fly a given heading for xx minutes then descend. But what if there is a headwind or you are slightly off in your positioning. Then you smack into a mountain
There must be headwinds.....
@Guy Incognito The miracle in that case was that there were survivors at all.
@Guy Incognito what those survivors went through and made it was NOTHING short of a miracle.
@Guy Incognito shhhhh, your lack of reading comprehension is showing.
The only movie.i cried
This goes to show just how far aviation safety has come. We now have a pictorial display of the terrain in our cockpits that would have saved that airplane for sure if they had that at that time.
Thanks so much for all these videos!! You are doing an excellent job!
Really nice. As a professional pilot, now retired. I use to read everything I could about accidents and incidents. I believed it might just help me learn from others mistakes .... What software are you using for the videos? I would love to have had some of these years ago
Damn those pilots had quite a confidence! If I had such confidence like flying blind without a flight plan and under the safely limit I would never ever be single!
I love these videos. Keep it up!
I made my first flight in 1963, when I was 16 years of age. Nervous at first of course, but loved the experience of my first aeroplane excursion. I've learned Australia is a very safe place to fly in, as we don't have many really high mountains,
hence not much turbulence per se. But I'm much more comfortable flying now in my mid seventies, knowing how technology has made it very safe to fly. learning of the accidents that befell plane travelers in the past saddens me very
much. But, aeroplane travel is getting safer all the time. That cheers me up no end!
I am from Bombay (Mumbai now) I never knew about this crash
Ha re bhava.... Malaa pan aajach kalla... Nahitar jaun pahila asta 😅😅😅 bhangar asel ajun pan.... But kuthlya dongarat padalaa hota te aikayla nahi aala neet...
@@achalbhoir1359 Somewhere in Davandyachi hill pan aahe kuthe Davandyachi hill??
@@abhishekpardhi junnar chya north west la 11 km madhe. . Aata tithe hadsar killa vegere dakhavat aahe... Link bagh aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19620707-1
@@achalbhoir1359 chutia
@@tapschaudhuri Tu chutiya
Another great mini doc
You're doing great work here. Your videos are consistently good. Carry on
Do you want to do videos about private aircraft? In Atlanta, a Piper Lance crashed on a major freeway (I-285). NTSB found the fuel manifold was clogged with debris. The family was going to the University of Mississippi to see a family member graduate. All four of them died.
So happy I found this channel
In 1975 I was on a flight from Seattle to Palm Beach for a meeting. There was a scheduled stop in Omaha in a hell of a blizzard. All was well except for the total white wall of snow we could see from the cabin. Pilot announced we'd be on the ground in a couple of minutes. All the landing preparations were done and we were obviously on final approach. We wouldn't have been on the ground as it turned out, we would have been in the ground. Once the runway was in sight, a cabin attendant told us later, the pilot spotted snow removal equipment on the runway. I'm not sure that he wasn't told at that moment by ATC. It wasn't a normal go-around, they climbed out and diverted to somewhere farther south. ATC almost immediately said the airport was closed. The "rumor" was that this announcement was a _reminder_ to the captain. Around that time, at least one airline had ATC on the cabin sound system. I remember listening to "United 40 heavy" instructions going into New York several times. That was cool.
crash of Japan Airlines Flight 471 in Delhi, Japan Airlines Flight 472 On September 24, 1972, the flight landed at Juhu Aerodrome near Bombay
Hehe Juhu Aerodrome is in Bombay only...Bombay has 2 airports
@@saamirsyed4261 You are correct, my error.
Happy and healthy New Year to the Mini Aircraft Investigations community. Thank you for your comments and insights.
Happy new years!
Awesome as usual. Would love to see one done on the 1960 mid air collision over Brooklyn. Untied DC8 and TWA Lockheed mid air collision
The simulation of the crash was a brilliant touch
AS ALWAYS GOOD WORK
I like ur video’s they a great!
I just woke and check for mini air crash and yes I got a notification
Thanks Andrew!!
It sounds like they flew blind in the dark. Pilots didn't see anything, no terrain proximity warning, ATC don't know where the plane is. What the hell? No Wonder people were scared of air travel back then.
Great video btw. Keep it up 👍
Nice job as usual. Did the Quartzsite Fliers Club help you at all?
Excellent.
Great vid as always, very informative. Have a happy New Yrs. 😉
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@@K1OIK yeah, vid...as in VIDEO. Trying to keep my comment short.
@@dodoubleg2356 Why not cut 2 letters off every word? Gre vid as alwa, ve informati. Ha a hap N Yrs
@@K1OIK whatev u s...
@@K1OIK you're actually giving me a hard time because I left a nice comment but tried to keep it short & sweet by using slang. 🤔
There was very little radar in the early 1960s. When I started to fly in Europe in 1969 we had to make full position reports every few minutes. In places like India VORs were rare. NDBs were even used on the airways. There is a lot of high ground east of Bombay. If I recall correctly the glide slope for the ILS on 27 is 3.5 degrees which is higher than usual. The published procedure turn altitude was 3600’ but we had a company restriction of 4000’ until glide slope interception.
love from Pakistan,love your videos.
bro your videos have gone to another level with using these animations. It was very distracting before with those random clips.
I would like to see you guys do a report on the "subtle incapacitation" incident where the crew got lost, didn't know it, and flew into a bay somewhere in the Caribbean years ago.
3:48 Plight Flan??? 😂😂 I'm sorry I couldn't resist... You do a great job, I love all of your video's.
The most tasty kind of flan.
@@doyoulikedags3534 😂😂😂😂😂
Great comment. Please pass the flan.
3:46*
Spoonerisms are always hilarious. 😁
I'm always fascinated to hear what countries went big in aviation in the sixties when flying was quite a privilege few people had access to, and which even had their own airlines and high-end passenger aircraft.
I fully agree about the abundance of guesswork in 1960s flying....it most definitely was far less safe than today, for a multitude of factors.....
Another great video! And...coincidentally, I was "Like" number 771! Weird.
Do do do do do do do do do do do do
By the way, that was meant to be the Theme Zone theme tune there...😂😂
@@toddgilbey3979 - I recognized it immediately ;-)
@@ThatBobGuy850 Glad we’re on the same wavelength here 😂😂
@@toddgilbey3979 - pretty scary, actually.
My grandfather is a witness of the accident that happened at that time.He was ten years old at that time.some plane parts also available in my village.
Nice
My first two flights were in the 1960s. The first was 'in utero' from the UK to Hong Kong's Kai Tak airport. The second was three years later for the return flight (Dad was in the British Army). I can still remember the second flight, which took place at night.
The aircraft used for both flights was a Bristol Britannia, the so-called "whispering giant". They carried navigators back then who, during night time flights, took star fixes just like their maritime counterparts had done for hundreds of years before them. A perspex bubble was built into the roof of the cockpit so that the navigator could sight his instruments. Trying to get an accurate fix whilst flying high above desolate, uninhabited terrain at night at 360mph must have been ... interesting. The world was a wilder, lonelier place back then.
If you ever visit Duxford Imperial War Museum (our biggest aviation museum in the UK just off the M11 motorway), you can see an example of a Bristol Britannia, complete with perspex viewing port.
British viewers may be interested to know that Norman Tebbit, now 92 years old, who served as a Cabinet Minister under Margaret Thatcher in the 1980s, was an RAF and then a commercial pilot before he became a politician. He used to fly Britannias as well as several other types of propellor and jet aircraft.
The past is never quite as far away as you imagine!
i read this title as the pilot who didn’t know WHO he was for a fraction of a second
Conclusion- in the 1960s they landed on the right side of runway centerline
Why is that the only thing I saw too?
I'm from Aurangabad. And yes, 3600 is very low altitude while flying over western ghats..
Happy that you didn't blame Bombay(Mumbai) ATC only.
Mountains have been there for millions of years. Seems like the airlines could be aware of them.
fellow Bhartiya (diaspora from and residents in Bharat wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhārat_Gaṇarājya ) can we please acknowledge how 'spot on'🖒 his pronunciations were!
i mean.. Aurangabad..isn't exactly a monosyllabic word!
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As for the unfortunate accident!
Yes.. we (India) have ALWAYS had pathetic redtape and bureaucracy (even if one forget the corruption) to drag their feet in aviation related matters.
I was born in the late 1970s so maybe not about this incident.. but even in the past 20-25 years and definitely in the 2000s .. i recollect of how Bombay (now Mumbai) kept dillydallying intalling the more advanced weather radars at Bombay itself!
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Similarly.. the Charki-Dadri disaster (SVA763 and KZA1907 collision) too was possibly avoidable had India made TCAS compulsory or had better equipment to alert the ATC.
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Anyway.. i agree 1960s were a tough time (and may be the future will say so for our times too) to be doing such hop-over flights.
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The crew.. unless well rested.. would have a lot of fatigue/anxiety.
Irrespective if whether Thailand people were incorrect/lyong or did everything right..
...irrespective of the scrutiny of the Bombay ATC (personnel).. the crew would really have been better off had they had short haul flights or direct flights and were familiar with the sector/ had more number if routine flights to the location)
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That local courrs absolved X Y or Z is one thing..
..that (just like with the BEA/ British European Airline crash) there was no CVR.. will😔never bring actual closure to what (what ALL) might have happened in the cockpit or what might have been the mindframe of the crew!
If i am right this crash took place at Junnar on the Pune / Nashik highway. Junnar is on the Bombay /Aurangabad air corridor. There was blinding rain in the path. There was a pilot error on the descend altitude afetr crossing Aurangabad which resulted in the aircraft descending below the safe altitude for the region and hit a hillock with a bang and flash in blinding rain.
Approach into Santa Cruz apt in BOM was very dangerous because of the 5900 ft high mountain to the east. A KLM Constellation also crashed into the mountain years ago.
I just had a stroke of luck I arrived early , Phew!
Welcome 😉
Even now, under some circumstances, ATC doesn’t provide terrain clearance. If you’re on vectors then, yes, absolutely, ATC has minimum vectoring altitudes. However, vectors are not provided on every approach. On a closed STAR the pilots are responsible for meeting published restrictions once clearance has been received. In areas that aren’t very busy or have poor radar coverage a pilot might simply be cleared for an approach while many miles from the airport - at this point the pilot is responsible for terrain clearance by adhering to published sector altitudes and the altitude constraints built into the approach and approach transitions.
I died in this crash. The accident occurred on July 8 1962. I was born on July 9 1962. When I was 7 I flew for the first time on a flight from Toronto to Halifax on a DC - 8. I was scared as we were boarding and I literally flipped out when we took off which resulted in me biting my Mother's arm in desperation. For years I would have panic attacks any time I had to fly. Despite my fear of flying I loved airplanes and would devour any information on various aircraft. In public school I drew pictures of WW2 dogfights. Without any prior knowledge I was able to name all the aircraft and airplane parts. In 2001 I flew from Toronto to Los Angeles. I was asleep thanks to a combination of Xanax and beer when I had a lucid dream. This dream was more real than reality. It was as if I had woken up and reality was the dream and vice versa. Oops my dog got loose more later.....
I am impressed how he spoke
BOMBAY AND AURANGABAD
u impressed an indian with your pronounciation
It'd be good to see a video about the midair collision that took place in 2002, flights DHL 611 and Bashkirian 2937
When did the use of Jeppesen airport approach charts become standard or is that even a standard today?
I remember the Journalist Alistair Cook talking about flying across the Atlantic in the '50s and he said that in jets u might have some turbulence but back then u might have 12 hours of turbulence!
In India, (please correct me if i'm wrong) there used to be beacons? or atc used to notify the flight pilots of their location always, but seeing a lot of zigzag paths or something, also crashes, they started work on GAGAN - SBAS but for Indian airspace
Fun fact. The DC 8 was the first passenger plan to go super sonic, not the Soviet TU-144.
Do tell me more 👀
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation Here is a link to the article. theaviationgeekclub.com/supersonic-dc-8-i-e-the-concorde-wasnt-the-first-airliner-to-break-the-sound-barrier/
@@americansupervillain4595 very interesting
@@MiniAirCrashInvestigation DC-8 supersonic, yes, happened once in a shallow dive. Not on regular cruise altitude.
Woohoo 👍
I would have liked to know what the weather was at the time.
I checked the crash happened on 8th July... middle of monsoon time... one can't see 10 feets during monsoon
now pilot watches can tell you exactly where you are and even how to go to other airports and their frequencies
it is even now not universal that ATC will keep your terrain separation... they will usually to nearly always do so in IFR, but much less in other forms of flight plan/conditions... at least outside the most developed areas. also, not every ATC will have you on radar, so much of your position they will get from yourself or with a deal of dead reckoning. if you fly major routes you will not see it, but if you do low level (say non-pressurized cabin altitudes) in hilly terrain, the ATC will give you patchy navigation advice at best.
Have you done a segment on the crash of asiana flight 214 San Francisco California July 6th 2013? Also, I think there was another one way back when where maybe a Japan airline fell short of the runway and landed in the bay.
1960s ATC sounds more like late WW2 millitary fighter directing protocols being used for civillian aircrafts. Which in some way, it probably was.
Worth pointing out, at least in the 50's and at least some places into the 60's, airports had VENDING MACHINES where you could buy life insurance in the lobbies... SO yeah, safety has come a LONG way since "the early days" of aviation... ;o)
The first flight for me was on yesterday, the airline was Indigo.
Did you SQUEEZE your cheeks
Have you done National Airways Corporation (NAC) flight 441 (DC-3 crash in the Kaimai Ranges of New Zealand in 1963)? Had similarities with this.
Yesterday 737 took off indonesia 20 mins later despeeard of the radar there has been massive improvement but still theres lots crashes
Probably Bombay at the time of the crash, but Mumbai perhaps more appropriate.
Thanks for the video, very interesting.
Na back in the day it was Bombay, it become Mumbai in 90s
They didn't have Jeppsen charts in those days?
Good video, but the livery wasn't the one actually in use.
Video title: „Alitalia crash...“
Me: „This one is going to take a while.“
Maybe you could mention the aircraft type? Great work nonetheless, keep it up!
DC-8/43 I-DIWD
"...anyone flying in the 60..."
-> "Hey, anyone happen to be about 82+ years old?!
ATC knows the terrain better they should have given the risks and best descent path. Hope such issues never happen again
I flew Alitalia in the 1960's. It seems I was more lucky than those poor passengers? RIP.
And so what mountain are they likely to hit if they start their descent a few minutes early from 35,000 feet? Please do explain, duh!
When did they start that no stop overs law over multiple countries?
What aircraft was that?
DC 8 I beleive. Had seen an earlier video on this crash somewhere.
It seems that pilot error is the most common cause for plane crashes... Interesting.
back in my day we used to vector people in by candlelight
Is there any relationship between your channel and the program air crash investigation ?
Last time I was this early my flight was cancelled
Sounds a little like TWA 514 @ IAD, CFIT..
Lol i had a deja vu of this video i guess :-P
A good plane no hardware issues goes down. Such a shame, the 90+ ppl never expected it, so many disorientef pilot errors
Minor question? What kind of airplane was it? I'm guessing 707
Uh I believe the plane is a Dc-8,or atleast that is the plane he's flying in.
@@dubious_potat4587 And that's accurate, the irl plane was a DC-8-43
Plane spotting tip, DC-8 has "chin" air intakes and fewer, larger windows, 707 has antenna at top of vertical and more, smaller windows.
What’s the purpose of making a 360?
Sounds like there was a lot of confusion here😕
How could the pilots possibly be expected to navigate around the terrain?
They were flying by instruments without any maps...
So Bangkok was a country back then?
Was GWPS not a thing in the 60's ? No?
GPWS was developed in the early 1970s