I have a fourth category of supports I call the Weirdos. They have unusual play styles and builds unique to their kit, and usually play towards their own specific win con instead of sticking to 1-2 carries. Most people that play these champs in high ELO are OTP’s. Biggest examples of these are Pyke, Ashe, Senna, and Swain.
Ye certainly there r champs like that, even within the 3 categories I listed some champs within those categories fill very different purposes. Side note but I love playing ashe support lol
I think Thresh kinda fall into Utility supp like Rakan which is not that tanky for all in engage but having skillset either to engage or disengage well. Still loving your explaination on the supp roles and always following you over years now.
Every champ is a bit different and thresh rakan r a bit different than all in engage supports. But to me their play style is much more play making focused compared to utility. Lantern certainly is a utility spell tho and rakan shield as well
You’re absolutely right about sp champ types in different elos. My champ pool for sp is Karma for AP mage, Seraphine with enchanter style, and Thresh for tank, but I find myself playing Karma the most in soloq as we can carry if necessary. Did you find the recent nerf on Thresh makes him a little weaker? Thanks for another great video!
Swain not only good for carry games, he has a lot of mass slow and cc, also u can buy a lot of tanky items with rylai, which with his kit will provide your more success to cc and slow enemies even more, he's good same like tresh and Nautilus in my opinion maybe a little bit worse, but just a little and its kinda nice bonus that in late game he can surely carry you a game, better than tresh or nauti, so I think you underestimate Swain and j4
honestly, I want to see some games you playing mordekaiser support (and not only support please), I know he's not that great like tresh or nauti, but just for fun :)
Now make a full guide for adc especially spacing and positioning around in teamfights hehe❤😊 Also i 1 trick cait any advices u can give and what are the best build for cait especially on crit atm?
I will make a full guide for adc. My favorite cait build is stormrazor, magnetic blaster, blood thirstier, infinity edge, situational defensive item such as maw wits end or guardian angel, and replace blood thirstier with mortal reminder when u need anti heal
@@talanwr it it better to go berserkers graves than the lifesteal one since it gives more stats? Also since u mentioned using mortal reminder for anti heal but not for armor?
@@eiiminate3322 I prefer life steal boots usually on Cait since she's not super attack speed reliant and storm razor magnetic and lethal tempo give atk speed, and yes if u need armor pen because they r rly tanky then go mortal as well
Don't be fooled, emerald diamond and master are mixed ranks, there are few players that belong to their rank and a lot of low iq illiterate players that climbed by sheer brute force brainless spamming games. I am master with 120 games 7.5 kda and i get matched with 2.1 kda players with over 500 games
…. I love support too favorite role to carry. Tanks are my easiest with Nami being my best though… I feel to evil to ever touch my nami again.. 😅. Just I swapped to adcs for a few seasons to go hey adc can’t be that hard to not die and it’s not. Then when I swap back to support I find that the adc I get just love to die so next game I’d swap over and nope it wasn’t hard to play that role it’s still fun so now I got roles I like it’s hard for me to stick to one 😅🥲
I have a fourth category of supports I call the Weirdos. They have unusual play styles and builds unique to their kit, and usually play towards their own specific win con instead of sticking to 1-2 carries. Most people that play these champs in high ELO are OTP’s. Biggest examples of these are Pyke, Ashe, Senna, and Swain.
Ye certainly there r champs like that, even within the 3 categories I listed some champs within those categories fill very different purposes. Side note but I love playing ashe support lol
They're carry supports except ashe, if your laner is garbage then you can just provide value by yourself. Also senna + draven is an amazing combo.
@@talanwryeah I love watching Ashe support carry a game. I was a fan of it after seeing you and Lebmont pull it off.
Ah yes finally, support content from talan
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I think Thresh kinda fall into Utility supp like Rakan which is not that tanky for all in engage but having skillset either to engage or disengage well. Still loving your explaination on the supp roles and always following you over years now.
Every champ is a bit different and thresh rakan r a bit different than all in engage supports. But to me their play style is much more play making focused compared to utility. Lantern certainly is a utility spell tho and rakan shield as well
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You’re absolutely right about sp champ types in different elos. My champ pool for sp is Karma for AP mage, Seraphine with enchanter style, and Thresh for tank, but I find myself playing Karma the most in soloq as we can carry if necessary. Did you find the recent nerf on Thresh makes him a little weaker? Thanks for another great video!
Thresh feels pretty similar. The nerf was rather small. Still a top tier support imo
Swain not only good for carry games, he has a lot of mass slow and cc, also u can buy a lot of tanky items with rylai, which with his kit will provide your more success to cc and slow enemies even more, he's good same like tresh and Nautilus in my opinion maybe a little bit worse, but just a little and its kinda nice bonus that in late game he can surely carry you a game, better than tresh or nauti, so I think you underestimate Swain and j4
and also u can use e-flash on Swain like tresh's hook and nauti, which guarantee you to catch someone, just need some practice
he's certainly better at 1v9ing but worse early landing and less guaranteed cc, which imo makes him worse than thresh and naut
Swain works if you can't rely on your team but otherwise a real support is way better that's why there is a meta
honestly, I want to see some games you playing mordekaiser support (and not only support please), I know he's not that great like tresh or nauti, but just for fun :)
atm I focus on playing my main champs to stay high elo so prob no morde sup
Now make a full guide for adc especially spacing and positioning around in teamfights hehe❤😊
Also i 1 trick cait any advices u can give and what are the best build for cait especially on crit atm?
I will make a full guide for adc. My favorite cait build is stormrazor, magnetic blaster, blood thirstier, infinity edge, situational defensive item such as maw wits end or guardian angel, and replace blood thirstier with mortal reminder when u need anti heal
@@talanwr it it better to go berserkers graves than the lifesteal one since it gives more stats? Also since u mentioned using mortal reminder for anti heal but not for armor?
@@eiiminate3322 I prefer life steal boots usually on Cait since she's not super attack speed reliant and storm razor magnetic and lethal tempo give atk speed, and yes if u need armor pen because they r rly tanky then go mortal as well
What do you think about Varus Support?
Not rly a good pick as a whole. Good lane phase but bad utility out of lane
Don't be fooled, emerald diamond and master are mixed ranks, there are few players that belong to their rank and a lot of low iq illiterate players that climbed by sheer brute force brainless spamming games.
I am master with 120 games 7.5 kda and i get matched with 2.1 kda players with over 500 games
…. I love support too favorite role to carry. Tanks are my easiest with Nami being my best though… I feel to evil to ever touch my nami again.. 😅. Just I swapped to adcs for a few seasons to go hey adc can’t be that hard to not die and it’s not.
Then when I swap back to support I find that the adc I get just love to die so next game I’d swap over and nope it wasn’t hard to play that role it’s still fun so now I got roles I like it’s hard for me to stick to one 😅🥲