Surnames and Early Families of Southern Appalachia and the American South, S2:22

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 Месяц назад +8

    Thank you for your wonderful cultural channel dr Barry . First of all I gathered main information about Appalachian region is geographic region located in the central and southern section of the Appalachian mountains of the eastern USA , in the north boundaries stretch from the western Catskill mountains of New York, continuing south through blue ridge mountains and great smoky mountain into northern Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, with West Virginia near center, being the only state entirely within the boundaries of Appalachia . North Appalachia encompasses 235 counties in New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio , Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia. Central Appalachian is mountainous region stretches from eastern Tennessee to northern Pennsylvania. Some of the oldest parts of Appalachian mountains are more than 1 billion years old . The Appalachian mountains are nearly 2000 miles long . The southern Appalachian mountains formed when two continents collided. Wolfe is a masculine name of German origin that means “ wolf “ . This common title is a popular surname that dates back to medieval Germany and stems from the lady name Wolfgang. When broken down , Wolfgang means “ wolf “ and “ gait pace “ , “ path “ , or “ way of life “ , reminiscent of a fierce warrior tribe . Ledbetter is English: occupational name of a worker in lead , Middle English ledbetere, from old English lead lead +beatere ( to beat ) .

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, Khatoon! I hope all is well in your home! Barry

  • @stevetilk4926
    @stevetilk4926 Месяц назад +4

    I’m glad you talked about the advent of bows and arrows in the Americas. Makes sense! Thanks

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      You are welcome! Thanks for watching and for the feedback! Barry

  • @gracie4duke
    @gracie4duke Месяц назад +5

    Always a welcome addition to my week! Thank you! Blessings for a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday with your family

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, Gracie! Blessings to you and yours!

  • @bluebird218bn
    @bluebird218bn 26 дней назад +2

    Jacob Wolfe Sr. is my 5th great-grandfather. I truly enjoyed this episode.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  26 дней назад +1

      @bluebird218bn That's awesome! Thanks for letting me know!

  • @PaulLester-t6x
    @PaulLester-t6x Месяц назад +4

    I would love to see a video about the surname Lester. I'm from Grundy Va and am told that we are one of the oldest families in the area.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      Lester just happens to be fourth on the list of names/families to cover.

  • @angelbulldog4934
    @angelbulldog4934 Месяц назад +3

    I need to check some of your other videos for the Thomas surname (my maiden name). What I have says that we came from Sir Rhys ap Thomas (supposedly killed Richard III), who came from the area of Carmarthen, Wales in the 1400s. First Thomas to come to America was Christopher, who landed in Maryland in 1625. Didn't take long til we moved to NC. There's more, but that's the highlights. Fascinating stuff. Thanks. Be blessed.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  29 дней назад +2

      That's a historically plausible scenario. FTDNA has a Thomas Y chromosome group. If you have a male heir in your paternal line who wouldn't mind being tested, it could be revealing. I can speak from experience with my own Vann group. Some men named Vann have very different haplogroups from my cluster. Good luck!

  • @thumbstruck
    @thumbstruck Месяц назад +3

    Always enjoyable. Keep up the good work!

  • @ritasroost
    @ritasroost Месяц назад +2

    I just found your channel and subscribed, now to listen to your other videos. I am southern...

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for subbing and welcome to our little community of family historians, southern style!

  • @villiehaizlip7626
    @villiehaizlip7626 Месяц назад +2

    Always enjoy hearing your new list of names. Thanks😊 I'm in Miami for a few & doing a happy dance that the weather mite be in the 50*'s Thursday. Thanks giving indeed

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      Sounds great! Have fun down yonder! Barry

  • @christolbert4628
    @christolbert4628 10 дней назад +1

    The late great Jerry Clower used to talk about the Ledbetter's from Mississippi 😅

  • @billlong9109
    @billlong9109 Месяц назад +1

    Always enjoy the videos. Have you done a piece on Montgomery?

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      Hi Bill, yes, Episode 15 (March 4, 2022)

    • @billlong9109
      @billlong9109 Месяц назад

      @BarryVann thank you. I found it. One more question. What about name Gutshall? It is maiden name of my grandmother, who grew up in Monterey VA

  • @joykendrick6156
    @joykendrick6156 Месяц назад +2

    I'm related to Ledbetter and Ledford

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      @@joykendrick6156 Awesome!

  • @Ammo08
    @Ammo08 Месяц назад +1

    James Wolfe was the British commander at the Battle of the Plains of Abraham when Quebec fell to the British during the French and Indian War. Both he and the French commander, Montcalm, were killed in the action. Are Harwood and Haywood the same name?

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      Hi Terry, I didn’t find any written support for Haywood being an alternate form of Harwood or Harewood.

  • @Khatoon170
    @Khatoon170 Месяц назад +2

    Last part of my research welborn it means ( spring - fed stream) and Is related to the old English name welborne . This name is also a variant of wiburn, another old English name with the same meaning. The name welborn may also be a nickname for descendant of a noble family, as it can be translated as “ well born “ in Dutch . The surname Arrowood was first found in lancashire where they held a family seat as lords of the minor . It’s of Anglo - Saxon origin, it’s derived from the old English word (arwca ) , meaning ( arrow ) , and ( wudu), meaning ( wood ) . Swain is English: from Middle English personal name swain , swein ( old Norse sveinn, sven, from sveinn, lead ) . It’s English: occupational name from Middle English swein , servant ,attendant , boy , young man , old Norse sveinn. The word could also denote a swineherd or a peasant in general. Happy thanksgiving and Christmas in advance. Best wishes for you your dearest ones . I hope you like my research.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      @@Khatoon170 Thanks, Khatoon, I neglected to give Welborn's original meaning.

  • @lawrencecoffeyjr1300
    @lawrencecoffeyjr1300 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you sir...

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      @@lawrencecoffeyjr1300 You are welcome, Lawrence. I'm plain old Barry.

  • @lucyalderman422
    @lucyalderman422 Месяц назад +1

    History of arrows, they are referred to in the scriptures where David before he was king reportedly shot an arrow and to have his friend Jonathon find it he said further which was a clue as to how far he would have to go to keep away from King Saul

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      That's right! Thanks, Lucy!

  • @danielleosentoski520
    @danielleosentoski520 21 день назад

    As I looked into one of my ancestral names, Queen, it went back to McSawain. It went to McQueen, then McSwain. Did you find anything like that in your research? Thank you!

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  21 день назад +1

      @@danielleosentoski520 Not directly. It's not uncommon for semi literate people to change spellings. Sawain could be Halloween.

  • @papaw5405
    @papaw5405 Месяц назад +2

    Do you have the name Chickilelie on you list? Andy Chickilelie was the father-in-law of my 2nd cousin 1Xremoved. The Chickilelies were here to greet all these European settlers when they got here. Spell Check doesn't like the name Chickilelie but I find it fascinating.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      I see a very small footprint for Chickilly.

    • @papaw5405
      @papaw5405 Месяц назад

      @@BarryVann Chickilelie is pronounced Chick-a-lilly. Andy was a full blooded Cherokee. His wife was a Catt. His daughter Emma Mae Chickilelie married my 4th Cousin 1Xremoved John Paul Ammons. Andy's father was Tom Chickilelie and his mother was Betty Walkingstick.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      @papaw5405 Thanks, Papaw. I'll see what I can find out about it. There's not much out there for me to work with.

  • @rhondag8128
    @rhondag8128 15 дней назад

    I was corrected by my Dad at a young age when I was taught Social Studies in elementary that I was Scottish-Irish not Scot-Irish as the teacher explained to us. He got offended by this and I didn’t understand but I always spoke it correctly.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  13 дней назад

      A lot of people call themselves Irish, too, so we are the people that Patrick Griffin called the People with no Name.press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691074627/the-people-with-no-name?srsltid=AfmBOooTJxdwVNrktAqidbSbjws6HEXq2vcplbrjddxYeU2RxcPm6ugk

  • @astridgalactic9336
    @astridgalactic9336 Месяц назад +2

    Don't know how you usually pronounce it down south, but those of us in the Northern Appalachian areas pronounce the name Baugh, as ball.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      @@astridgalactic9336 To be honest, I have never met a person named Baugh. I show the spellings in case I get the phonics wrong.

    • @astridgalactic9336
      @astridgalactic9336 Месяц назад

      @@BarryVann Usually I see and hear it in combination with longer names, like Butterbaugh or Baugher. Although Baugher would be pronounced ball ger... with g sound, not a j.
      Btw, thanks for your work. I'm always wondering if some of my southern moving ancestors will show up sometime, like Saum. Happy Thanksgiving!

    • @daledrawbond1222
      @daledrawbond1222 Месяц назад

      Stumbled on your page within the last month. I’m really enjoying it and hope to get all the past videos watched this winter. My family name is rooted in Virginia. Dale Drawbond. Thanks Barry for all the interesting information you have shared!

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +2

      @daledrawbond1222 Hi Dale, you are the only person that I have met with your last name. It’s quite unique.

    • @SherryHill-k5y
      @SherryHill-k5y Месяц назад

      I went to school with a girl whose last name was Wolfe, taught a boy whose surname was Ledbetter. WV

  • @lazykmountainhomestead3476
    @lazykmountainhomestead3476 Месяц назад

    I knew of Charles City Ledbetter's 40 years ago when I lived there! Talk about memory lane!
    But fast forward, we have quite a few Ledbetters here in Putnam and Fentress Co, TN!
    Always enjoy the history lessons!
    Ps. Did y'all try the bread recipe?

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      @lazykmountainhomestead3476 That's awesome. Not yet on the bread recipe. I need to get Amy to check out your channel. You come across as a pleasant lady on your show.

    • @jimbobjones5972
      @jimbobjones5972 Месяц назад +1

      My late wife's maternal grandfather was a Ledbetter from the mountains of Western North Carolina. He was a Methodist minister who' spent most of his time in the ministry in rural South Carolina.

    • @lazykmountainhomestead3476
      @lazykmountainhomestead3476 Месяц назад

      ​@@BarryVannthank you, I'm just me!

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      @lazykmountainhomestead3476 I hope your channel takes off.

    • @lazykmountainhomestead3476
      @lazykmountainhomestead3476 Месяц назад

      @BarryVann thank you, if not it's still fun and maybe we encouraged one person! Have a great day!!

  • @donnagilland4185
    @donnagilland4185 27 дней назад

    Hi, Barry. I watch your episodes every week. Thank your for the information of my husband's family name Gilliland or Gilland. I have been waiting to hear any information on my mother's family name of Sias. My son came to visit this weekend and he has information on my 9th and 10th great grandfather of my mom's dad's side. I do know my 10th great grandfather was named William Sias who was born in France in 1621 and had a son , John (Jean Sieyes Cyas) Sias in 1634. I have no idea which one came to America. I do know that John Sias died in 1716 in New Hampshire. I would love to find out which one came to the states at that time. I now know that I am of french heritage and also Northern Ireland. Exciting. Thank you Barry and I look forward to finding out.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  26 дней назад +1

      Hi Donna, you are right about the French origin of Sias. It was a habitational name for Sieyès in French. I see some of your relatives in New england, Canada and Louisiana. What can you tell me about the in the South?

    • @donnagilland4185
      @donnagilland4185 26 дней назад

      @@BarryVann All the ones from Jesse Sias up till I was born were in West Virginia and there was town named Sias and they closed the Post Office a year or so ago. I think it was in Lincoln County West Virginia. They even have their own cemetary where Sias were buried. It took convincing but the caretakers finally let my brother put my mom's ashes beside her mother. I can't tell you exactly where it's located. Until yesterday all my history has been in West Virginia.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  26 дней назад +1

      @donnagilland4185 Copy that, Donna!

    • @donnagilland4185
      @donnagilland4185 26 дней назад

      @@BarryVann Thank you..

  • @sand3882
    @sand3882 27 дней назад

    I believe this is the first of your videos I've seen. Is there an index of names and orders of videos somewhere? I haven't seen anything about the names I'm interested in, specifically Campbell, Cadle, Krewson, and Logan. Have you covered any of them or plan to in the future?

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  27 дней назад

      At the end of the video, I provide an email address to get such a list. There are over 900 names on it. vanntagepoint22@gmail.com.

  • @luisvelasco316
    @luisvelasco316 Месяц назад

    Hello, Barry. Is Wilburn a variation of Welborn(e)? It is a name I'm more familiar with in NC. By the way, thanks for the update on your Rowan pronunciation!

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад +1

      I saw one source that said Wilburn was the original form of Wellborn.

  • @lewiemcneely9143
    @lewiemcneely9143 Месяц назад +1

    Howdy, Neighbor Pal and maybe you're gettinga little of this rain we're gently getting. Setting the dusty leaves. Don't know any Arrowoods but knew some Leatherwoods that were fellow truck drivers and have met some Northern Hillbillies that ran way up and out to Texas that'd settle right in here and make good neighbors. The natives here though are a rare and endangered species with all the goffers and zillionaires that have migrated. So remain calm and keep the docs happy. I'm doing my best to hold things down but sadly, no diesel is invoilved. I was always holding something down and it was usually smoking and making a racket so God Bless ALL Yall from (Us'ns) here on the hilly swamp!

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      It's good to hear from you, Lewie. It is raining here in the Valley. It looks like we'll be getting some colder weather in a day or two when the cold front passes through on its way south. I live a half mile from Norris Lake, so we too have our share of Ohioans moving in and driving up home prices. Hand in there! Barry

    • @lewiemcneely9143
      @lewiemcneely9143 Месяц назад

      @@BarryVann Right-O, Pal. Trying my best! Stay warm!

  • @lisamaule5498
    @lisamaule5498 Месяц назад

    My mother was a Vann and we are having a hard time finding where they originated from.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      @@lisamaule5498 Hi Lisa, please tell me what you know about her line.

    • @lisamaule5498
      @lisamaule5498 Месяц назад

      @ we basically only know our great grandfather’s name Harman J Vann. They lived in Houston County AL, in the area of Cottonwood and Dothan.

    • @lisamaule5498
      @lisamaule5498 Месяц назад

      He married Darcus Elizabeth (Betty) Myers. We know a lot about them. They can to AL from Darlington SC.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  Месяц назад

      @lisamaule5498 I have two Darcus ladies in my tree.

    • @lisamaule5498
      @lisamaule5498 Месяц назад

      It’s actually Hiram Jackson Vann. Born 1871 Death 1936

  • @sixmax11
    @sixmax11 29 дней назад

    do you think the name "wellborn(e)" might mean exactly what it says, that they were wealthy? i.e. born well
    helps explain where the got the money to travel to america. this aspect is often left out of the discussion.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  29 дней назад

      @@sixmax11 I don't have any proof of that, but it makes sense.

    • @sixmax11
      @sixmax11 29 дней назад

      @@BarryVann we see that with other surnames.
      e.g. shoemaker - you made shoes, tanner - you made leather goods, cooper - you made barrels etc.

  • @jamesatkins3085
    @jamesatkins3085 10 дней назад

    Search Watkins

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  10 дней назад

      Watkins is 63rd in line. Thanks for writing!

  • @chrisfrazier7656
    @chrisfrazier7656 17 дней назад

    We're not Scotch-Irish. We're Scots-Irish.

    • @BarryVann
      @BarryVann  17 дней назад

      @chrisfrazier7656 I'm impressed that you have such a strong opinion. Good for you, mate. I'm one, too, but our identity is not shared by everyone. In Ireland, we're called Ulster Scots. I personally prefer Ulster Scots or just Scottish. The US Census Bureau recognizes Scotch-Irish, which is what our ancestors called themselves.