Agreed Brother! Cease This heresy! Instead of damning to Chaos! But yeah 100% agreed. Would rather have it cancelled then to see it butchered on screen. I hope it does come to an agreement, would love to see a live action 40k show/movie :D
I mean, why can't they just add another story altogether alongside the one they are trying and they eventually merge, where they add sisters of battle, they are a faction with only women, custodies are a faction of only men, 50-50, DONE. Not saying i would put sisters of battle inside this story and change it alltogether, but like "this is happening elsewhere with sisters of battle". Think that's the only compromise they can do properly, or add imperials with female characters whatever, imperials are always around space marines so wouldn't change much, we'd see some cool shit with them and fucking hell i wanna see that BANEBLADE in action 😍
if they just let cavill do what he wants we would get the BEST show ever created but looks like amazon wants another rings of power disaster with their diversity propaganda
Thank fuck someone else said it, I have been in the hobby since 3rd edition (July, 1999). Over that time GW has changed, some bad some good, but this "woke" shite. Is just pointless. Female SM... Sisters of Battle Females in 40k... Sisters of Battle, Assassins, Inquisitor, Imperial Guard (I will admit that this is few and far between, but in lore they are there). Other cultures... SM, take your pick, everything from Vikings to Egyptian. Celtic to Hispanic. The LQB-whatever folks-... Orcs (called BOYZ((yes a Z not S)) are not really male or female, so no gender. Nids, no gender (Yes the norn queen). Eldar+ Dark Eldar (not this Aeldari crap) BOTH genders (yes only 2 as there is hermaphrodites but to date, not 1 case of fully *functional* hermaphroditic human). Necros, both Male and Female but they robots, no point to boobs on a bot. Chaos SM, see SM. Demons... Well look at Slaanesh in the corner, that is Male, Female, Both and neither. (BTW, not a rant at you, just for those that want to read). Warhammer is Grimdark, GW, take us back to those days. Give Cavill what he needs to do it right, after all. When you Made "Ultramarines" the film. It. Totally. Sucked. Well I'm off. And thanks Bingojanjo2297 for saying what I have been as well. Peace
@@dalejohnson6292 they could easily do the Sisters of Silence which would give the female representation And Mute representation do sign language right being that the sisters use hand gestures to communicate. but nope Amazon goes we don't want that because they don't talk, don't want sisters of battle because too religious which is hilarious since Imperium of Man are all religious zealots For the Emperor.
I dont see why every singular story needs to be inclusive to all I mean why not just do a side project that shows a different perspective of females. Sometimes a story like this shows how important it is to be inclusive by showing us how fundamentally bad it can be at times. I say this knowing that even that perspective would bit a bit too woke as I feel like amazon is just going to try to insert modern day ideals. Its not like we the fans are saying keep the women in the kitchen we are just saying to stay true to the source material and stop diluting it in ways that dont help the story. I feel like even a lot of woman wouldnt be bothered by this but who knows
I don't trust Amazon in any way shape or form to have any creative input. Either Cavil gets 100% creative control or I'd rather the show doesn't happen.
@@matthewwheeldon6385 The setting of Fallout is more flexible with modern woke propaganda, we were just lucky that it wasn't implemented too far into the show. Warhammer is specifically about bigass armored DUDES killing aliens and building a BROTHERhood. Ofc you can tell stories about the guardsmen and the little guys, but that didn't turn out too well for Warhammer darktide. People love the Space Marines and if you change something huge, people will not be happy. These people want diversity but will not include the needs and wants of the original fanbase while prioritizing a small percentage of consumers who don't know much about the series and don't want to. You can't just walk into a story, change it and expect everyone to have a boner and be interested immediately.
Poor Henry Cavil, He's a fan of the franchises and he want's justice for these franchise's to be faithful, got screwed over by the Witcher and WB, I'm glad he stands up for what he believes in.
did you notice the female custodes (if you can even call it that considering what an abomination it is and the dialogue) kinda looks like henry too? it's like they are mocking him by ruining his fav faction like that
I’ll say I’ll fucking say it Henry cavill is my fucking héro and I idolize him, he’s a fucking legend and I love him, he’s one of the last famous people to actually defend our culture
If Henry leaves the implication would be: The Adaptation is not faithful. That would spread like wildfire through the community. Way to alienate an audience. Who is this for?
This is not a case of "creative differences". It's simply that one side wants to be true to the lore and be respectful of its fans, while the other side wants to destroy the lore and make it something of their own.
You should have given up on them YEARS ago. BTW Space Marine 2 (the game) is shocking the gaming world with huge sales and fan base approval. What an incredible lead in for Amazon to produce the live action shows. But, like Sony, Amazon shot themselves in the foot and penis because it is more important to make women more powerful than men. Piece*
Sad. There are only DECADES of actual lore on Warhammer 40k and earlier. I guess this will never happen and it's ALL ON AMAZON.. We don't need female Space Marines, they have their own orders. Someone who loves the lore and the story should put this together, but Amazon will F it up like they did The Rings of Power which could have been on the CW...
You have someone who dedicated lots of time out of passion, knows the franchise in and out and genuinelly loves it arguing with some random pink haired who want's to push up his weirdo, deranged narrative into something he does not even know existed since 2 days ago. Incredibly smart to push away someone with such passion in favor of some tristed asylum escapee
If amazon could just trust Henry Cavil and see his vision. The warhammer show would make tons of money and attract so many people to watch. Rather their woke and would destroy evrything.
if by works perfectly you mean like manure works perfectly then yes! it stinks and no one wants to see it! then again manure does something useful so maybe not😀😀
I've been on the verge of unsubscribing Prime for some time now, there really is not much on there to keep me watching. I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan, but somehow, despite its colossal budget, The Rings of Power is complete garbage. If that is what they try to do to Warhammer 40k, maybe it's for the best Henry left.
@@MGrey-qb5xz NO. The thing with woke people is, they bitch and moan and cry in order to get their way and make companies meet their delusional demands. But in the end they don’t even show up to support the product. They spoil every IP they touch.
@@MGrey-qb5xz NO. The thing with woke people is, they bitch and moan and cry in order to get their way and make companies meet their delusional demands. But in the end they don’t even show up to support the product. They spoil every IP they touch.
@MGrey-qb5xz you hit the nail on the head. It isnt even that Amazon cares about the source material. It isnt that they care about some woke agenda. The only thing they care about is reaching as many people as they can. And lets face it, the VAST majority of the population doesnt know or give a crap about WH40k. At all. So in the eyes on Amazon THEY are the target audience. They are the source of success. They will happily destroy any franchise if it means tapping into the largest possible audience they can. It's a business.
they could have just made a badass female sister of silence or Astates Sororetas (maybe even Celestine) which work together with the custodes depending on the story ofc.. but no they instead insist of a female custodes which will never and also should never happen Amazon just acts like a child in a supermarket who dosn't get the candy he wants and makes a drama out of it... there are plenty of options for making a "good written" female protagonist who works alongside a custodes on whatever mission or agenda
if they want female characters use the sisters of silence, battle sisters or the women who are in the imperial guard. there is no need to force female space marines or custodies to exist just to satisfy a shallow attempt at inclusion especially when warhammer is actually pretty inclusive if you look at all the factions and characters that already exist. either let Henry stick to the lore or don't make it.
It's funny how DEI is pushing for the woman custodes. Without knowing that they're pretty much just supporting traditional relationships where a woman stays in the house (Terra) doing house chores, and when the husband (Emperor) tells them to do something they do it without question. Hooray for DEI, now we get the Emperor and his harem of wives
This video is terrible, and the information was very out of date... this is just a seemingly plagiarized reposting of what others have already stated. Amazon and game work shop already went behind Henry's back. They edited the head of a custodian in a new episode of a series of Warhammer plus, and made a condescending sexist female custodes. Ruined the episode, and Amazon is getting a Woke episode of their own games workshop has made/making for Amazon. It contradicts almost all custodes lore.
Frankly i belive that Amazon execs are extremely conflicted rn on the topic of WH40k series, they wanted to put their agenda and have creative control over it and because Henry didnt bend and stood his ground they didn't feel like doing it ... But all that happened months before Space Marine 2 released, was an instant massive commercial sucess and elevated Warhammer from this niche universe for nerds to something every casual gamer heard about, like potential target audience in matter of couple weeks propably grew tenfold. We all know amazon is about money, and WH40k as of now is a potential goldmine for them.
Consider this. I'm playing devil's advocate.. no matter how much the fandom grew after space marine 2, the amount of people who dont know anything about it is still larger. If you are amazon, and your goal is money. Do you make the handful of super fans happy, or do you appeal to the majority. For them its an easy decision. Appeal to the majority
The last thing amazon care about is money. They already have billions and also backed by trillions of blackrock,vanguard,dei dollars.They only care about their agenda and how to ruin everything people love.
There are female custodians on warhammer 40k called the Sisters of Silence the pariahs who’s innate ability is to kill Demons, and rogue and demonic psychic power users
OMG, I WAS ENJOYING THE VIDEO, THEN AT 1:30 THAT FEMALE VOICE FROM HELL CAME IN! CLAWED AT MY EARS.... DRAINED MY WILL TO LIVE. LITERALLY UNLISTENABLE! INSTANTLY CLOSED THE VIDEO!!!! NOT A VOICE FOR LISTENING! ;-)
They wasted 1 billion dollars on Rings of Power, and disrespected and insulted the Lord of the Rings fans. If Cavill holds off until December, then we don't have to see another contender in the worst series in history.
I dont think Henry Cavil is going to accept to make a voke, DEI, LGBTQ+ warhammer show no matter how much money Amazon offers him. If Amazon dont let him make the show true to the source material I belive he will let the show get canceled and he absolutly shud I rather have no show at all then a shit show.
From what all the rumours are saying, i vote to cancel the show. I’d rather it be done right or not at all. We don’t need another show like Rings of Power.
Probably the same problem as Lord of the Rings, The Witcher and Acolyte etc. Screenwriters and showrunners don't want to do their jobs and study lore to write an acceptable plot or at least hire consultants. I honestly don't understand how you can hire such unresponsive people who are worse than amateurs writing fanfic on websites.
@@DamienSmyth-v6k got a better one, an Orc embraced his inner Gentleman and wishes to escape the violence of the Waagh and joining him a Khorne Berzerker finding value in life and Love, and a commissar seeing the errors of his Faith.
I never really believed it will be possible, not in this political climate. I think we need to wait another couple of years, some more spectacular woke flops need to go through streaming and cinema, much more money needs to be lost on senseless projects, and then, maybe it will be possible to create good WH show. In the meantime good luck and all the respect to Henry for attempting this.
Some lines from the movie Braveheart that I think about most days, and what I feel about the current state of the Modern World and all its facets: Robert the Bruce : Lands, titles, men, power, nothing. Robert's Father : Nothing? Robert the Bruce : I have nothing. Men fight for me because if they do not, I throw them off my land and I starve their wives and their children. Those men who bled the ground red at Falkirk, they fought for William Wallace, and he fights for something that I never had. And I took it from him, when I betrayed him. I saw it in his face on the battlefield and it's tearing me apart. Robert's Father : All men betray. All lose heart. Robert the Bruce : I DON'T WANT TO LOSE HEART!!! I want to believe as he does. And so do we all, true Patriots. Please don't betray or lose heart, Henry - and my fellow Discerning Nerds of Culture. We're with you whatever happens.
there are plenty of strong females in 40k. make other tv series content based on female characters but stay true to the story. If you think they should adjust the show to be more inclusive then read some of the books and you'll understand. this IP has the ability to churn out endless content. They could make an entire series on female 40k characters just by staying true to the lore. If this comes out as it is intended as per the lore there is infinite content to be made for male and female. Its actually not possible to make warhammer content with out females if you stay true to the lore....
There is already an army of women, the Sisters of Battle, and they are BADASS. No need to destroy the source material in order to tick some boxes. This should be a show for Warhammer fans.
Guys, guys, don't be disappointed. Instead, be proud. I'm proud that there are men like Henry Cavill, who is a hardcore core fan and has the integrity to say no to the propagandists who twist our beloved stories.
@Amazon, leave it ALONE!! Let Cavil do his stuff. He knows what hes doing. He knows the story. He KNOWS Warhammer 40k. You want the fans lining up, then let Cavil have the reigns.
It’s just like The Witcher all over again where Henry is the only one truly fighting for and defending titles and genres that all of us grew up with and loved and don’t want to see twisted into something that doesn’t even represent the original thing we fell in love with.
Just look at the success of Space Marine 2. Companies like Amazon and IGN can't stand when a character can be manly, uncomplicated, and still tell an amazing story. Stand your ground Brother Henry, we would rather see the creations of chaos burn than ever bend to its will.
Amazon needs to chill and let content creators do their job. I remember when Amazon used to have a disclaimer saying that the shows on their stream services don't align with their personal ideals and these shows are for entertainment purposes. They should remember that and back off and let Cavil be faithful to the lore.
it's a problem because warhammer is ultra masculine. not toxic, it's just all about grim sacrifice, brotherhood and constant loss and pyrrhic victories. There's plenty of females and diversity that are available in the setting but it's ultimately a masculine franchise. If you want something else, watch something else. If you want Warhammer keep it faithful. Good on him for holding his ground.
Cavill Hammer or No Hammer! The IP allows plenty of opportunities for strong female characters without butchering the current setting. If Amason aren't able do it proud, then they should just leave it for someone else who understands the IP better.
I have faith. The reason revolves around The Rings of Power show. It is objectively a poorly performing show. It isn’t bringing in the viewership that is proportional to the production value that has gone into creating it and part of the problem if not most is the lack of adherence to the source material for the sake of diversity and inclusion. If amazon execs can just look at numbers then perhaps they can take a chance and give Cavill a shot to do things the way they should be done.
Henry Cavill is our Primarch, our Hero, he won't bend the knee when it comes to something he loves so dearly, like all of us veterans of 40K, he has integrity and respect for the lore. D.E.I. is the way for a francise or I.P. to D.I.E. We don't want all this nonsense, I'm sure if there were male Sisters of Battle or Sisters of Silence, there'd be an outcry from the left. Don't let casual tourists just ruin everything we've loved for decades, look at what has happened to Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who? This is where we must draw the line and hold the gate.
It's worded almost like it's Cavill's fault for the potential cancelation of this show. This is no way at all his fault, he is sticking to his roots and being true to himself and his fellow fans. Everyone is on his side and this DEI is butchering so many things we all hold dear. Bring back basing things on merit rather than how you look or what you are.
I hate it’s when they try to bend and twist the original warhammer and push for wokness. Mist people don’t care, we just all want a great stories. And Henry cavill is the man to have a 100%say to this.
Considering there seems to be time travel in everything, just let cavil make his version the perfect version for what the emperor wants, make the first part like a would be vision of what NOT to do, would be
Its all Games workshop's fault for letting Amazon take control and making it how they want it not what the Audience need keep Warhammer 40000 REAL Good Luck Henry Cavill we are all with you
They would be absolute fools to not give Henry his demands. The people are frothing at the mouth for this to happen. Everyone loves his passion and desire to stay lore accurate. Not a single viewer, gamer, or fan want it to be woke on the least. And he would make them loads of money. They will only lose if they don’t give him his chance. I can assure you they will suffer massive backlash.
I'd rather preserve the integrity of the IP, than shill it out to people who will never respect it, and mold it to fit their weak and broken mediocrity. Cavill was smart to put an end to this charade. Amazon was never going to allow a Lore Accurate Warhammer 40K show.
Calling me a toxic fan is, at this point, a badge of honor. Just like being a privileged, white, straight, middle class American Male. Racist? Sexist? Transphobic? Badges of honor. It means I'm still normal. I don't even hate those people. I just disagree with their stupidity, and that makes me those things in their views.
They won't come to an agreement because the parent company (Games Workshop) has already bent the knee. Basically, they wanted Cavill to draw in fans because of his stance on lore. They were likely always planning this and hoped Cavill would just go with the flow, but they clearly don't understand fans anymore. All they've done is out themselves as another sell-out company among others that will do whatever they want with their IP even if it means abandoning fans. At least we got one last good 40k game out before they go full woke and then wonder why the money is all gone.
if the show doesn't get cancelled, its 100% would be a huge disappointment because I'm sure They will stab the lore with a huge unnecessary and irrelevant stuff.
Amazon does not realise, if they stay out of it, and just give him the money to make it, they will earn limitless goodwill with fans. If they push, he will just say no, and only Amazon will be blamed for the fiasko
I’m excited to see this come to fruition, but not at the cost of destroying the lore. When they said female space marines 🤦♂️ that right there will ruin it.
If only Henry and other people like him came together to create a streaming platform that had shows/movies that they wanted to add, and didn't push all this bull**** propaganda blah blah blah, I would 100 percent be happy paying for THAT subscription, we could actually have good entertainment again
I would rather they cancelled it than bend the knee and make it trash. What would be cool as a compromise is to let Cavill create his vision for 40k. Then after do warhammer fantasy Black Talon show which has a compelling Female lead and is a great story....
If they just let Cavill do 40k the way it is SUPPOSED TO BE, they will make a fortune! and make 99% of everyone that watches it happy! if you try and please everyone, you don't please anyone.
Ok hear me out... Cavill as the protagonist Space Marine, Samuel L Jackson as a Salamander, and Gorlock as Nurgle. DEI ✅️ Based ✅️ No need for female Astartes or Custodes
Can someone seriously on a professional level explain what benefit you get from a show not being a hit success and dislike so much they never want to see it again? Are we just going into an era of denial and ignorance?.
Henry Cavill!!! If they dont bend, cancel that show! Be a Hero!
Agreed Brother! Cease This heresy! Instead of damning to Chaos!
But yeah 100% agreed. Would rather have it cancelled then to see it butchered on screen. I hope it does come to an agreement, would love to see a live action 40k show/movie :D
I mean, why can't they just add another story altogether alongside the one they are trying and they eventually merge, where they add sisters of battle, they are a faction with only women, custodies are a faction of only men, 50-50, DONE. Not saying i would put sisters of battle inside this story and change it alltogether, but like "this is happening elsewhere with sisters of battle". Think that's the only compromise they can do properly, or add imperials with female characters whatever, imperials are always around space marines so wouldn't change much, we'd see some cool shit with them and fucking hell i wanna see that BANEBLADE in action 😍
i mean they can still play as nurgle beast or demons
Hell yeah it’s either do the movies and tv shows by the story lore or no movies and tv shows
And there are female custodians on warhammer 40k called the Sisters of Silence
I’d rather cancel it than make something stupid like rings of power.
or Wheel of Time. What a butchering of the source material.
@@grigturcescu6190 Or The Acolyte. Emperor protect us from this Heresey..
Or the sword of truth series. #1 of all butchered adaptations
if they just let cavill do what he wants we would get the BEST show ever created but looks like amazon wants another rings of power disaster with their diversity propaganda
Thank fuck someone else said it, I have been in the hobby since 3rd edition (July, 1999). Over that time GW has changed, some bad some good, but this "woke" shite. Is just pointless.
Female SM... Sisters of Battle
Females in 40k... Sisters of Battle, Assassins, Inquisitor, Imperial Guard (I will admit that this is few and far between, but in lore they are there).
Other cultures... SM, take your pick, everything from Vikings to Egyptian. Celtic to Hispanic.
The LQB-whatever folks-... Orcs (called BOYZ((yes a Z not S)) are not really male or female, so no gender. Nids, no gender (Yes the norn queen). Eldar+ Dark Eldar (not this Aeldari crap) BOTH genders (yes only 2 as there is hermaphrodites but to date, not 1 case of fully *functional* hermaphroditic human). Necros, both Male and Female but they robots, no point to boobs on a bot.
Chaos SM, see SM.
Demons... Well look at Slaanesh in the corner, that is Male, Female, Both and neither.
(BTW, not a rant at you, just for those that want to read).
Warhammer is Grimdark, GW, take us back to those days. Give Cavill what he needs to do it right, after all. When you Made "Ultramarines" the film. It. Totally. Sucked.
Well I'm off. And thanks Bingojanjo2297 for saying what I have been as well.
Peace
@@dalejohnson6292 they could easily do the Sisters of Silence which would give the female representation And Mute representation do sign language right being that the sisters use hand gestures to communicate. but nope Amazon goes we don't want that because they don't talk, don't want sisters of battle because too religious which is hilarious since Imperium of Man are all religious zealots For the Emperor.
They want Sisters of Battle to be overzealously religious about taking down the Patriarchy.
Plus they're corporate hypocrites
I dont see why every singular story needs to be inclusive to all I mean why not just do a side project that shows a different perspective of females. Sometimes a story like this shows how important it is to be inclusive by showing us how fundamentally bad it can be at times. I say this knowing that even that perspective would bit a bit too woke as I feel like amazon is just going to try to insert modern day ideals. Its not like we the fans are saying keep the women in the kitchen we are just saying to stay true to the source material and stop diluting it in ways that dont help the story. I feel like even a lot of woman wouldnt be bothered by this but who knows
@@Guyfawx1105 And I agree with you, but Amazon and their female executives won't listen to you because it sounds "misogynistic" to them.
I don't trust Amazon in any way shape or form to have any creative input. Either Cavil gets 100% creative control or I'd rather the show doesn't happen.
Agree, I will rather NOT have a show than to get a DEI project. Just look what happened to SW and LOTR...
Fallout was good
Exactly, LOTR and SW where better off before these dumb streaming services made shows for them
Well like things are currently they need Cavil to say "Yes" that wont happen to Amazon takes a step back or it wont happen
@@matthewwheeldon6385 The setting of Fallout is more flexible with modern woke propaganda, we were just lucky that it wasn't implemented too far into the show. Warhammer is specifically about bigass armored DUDES killing aliens and building a BROTHERhood. Ofc you can tell stories about the guardsmen and the little guys, but that didn't turn out too well for Warhammer darktide. People love the Space Marines and if you change something huge, people will not be happy. These people want diversity but will not include the needs and wants of the original fanbase while prioritizing a small percentage of consumers who don't know much about the series and don't want to. You can't just walk into a story, change it and expect everyone to have a boner and be interested immediately.
We Don't want Woke in Warhammer Show, this should be Stop Now
I understand your point, but using woke just makes you look brain dead.
He walked away from the witcher when Netflix destroyed. it
Poor Henry Cavil, He's a fan of the franchises and he want's justice for these franchise's to be faithful, got screwed over by the Witcher and WB, I'm glad he stands up for what he believes in.
did you notice the female custodes (if you can even call it that considering what an abomination it is and the dialogue) kinda looks like henry too? it's like they are mocking him by ruining his fav faction like that
I’ll say
I’ll fucking say it
Henry cavill is my fucking héro and I idolize him, he’s a fucking legend and I love him, he’s one of the last famous people to actually defend our culture
Hes a real man, stands up for what he likes, doesn’t care if he’s a “nerd”.
he is the chosen one, the king of the nerds! all hail King Cavill!
He's our Primarch. He makes us proud to be a geek!
Amazon is literally insane if they blow this
It would not be the first time Amazon has thrown away an amazing chance
They did it w lord of the rings lol. So its not insane, just normal for them
These guys loves political agendas more than money
Sadly they dont care, they just want to virtue signal and push the DEI plague into everything.
If Henry leaves the implication would be: The Adaptation is not faithful.
That would spread like wildfire through the community.
Way to alienate an audience.
Who is this for?
It's for the people who aren't into WH40K, who won't get into WH40K, and, in fact, have always hated and derided WH40K.
Look what they did to halo, id imagine they were trying to go for something like that
Non codex compliant 😄
The woke trash mob thats who its for.
This is not a case of "creative differences". It's simply that one side wants to be true to the lore and be respectful of its fans, while the other side wants to destroy the lore and make it something of their own.
Exactly. Like the rings of powers.
I want this so much, but I would rather see it cancelled than Amazon do to WH40K what they did to Tolkien.
Hollywood ruining Henry carrier first Netflix and now Amazon 🤦♂
Honestly as sad as it sounds, I would rather see it canceled than woke
Look heretic! We KNOW WHAT THE LORE IS! It’s what will be WOKE! Anything else is obviously heresy. Death before Slaneche chaos.
Stop WOKEing for Christ's sake. Make a lore correct show!
If Amazon is going to ruin this story, I'm giving up on Hollywood.
You should have given up on them YEARS ago. BTW Space Marine 2 (the game) is shocking the gaming world with huge sales and fan base approval. What an incredible lead in for Amazon to produce the live action shows. But, like Sony, Amazon shot themselves in the foot and penis because it is more important to make women more powerful than men. Piece*
Come up to Japanese Manga, Anime They Doing Batter then Hollowood.
@@Primarch19th Amazon dont care about the fans they want what they want and do anything to get it, power of the pussy, fuck the woke
You haven’t already?!????
Hollyweird not Hollywood
Sad. There are only DECADES of actual lore on Warhammer 40k and earlier. I guess this will never happen and it's ALL ON AMAZON.. We don't need female Space Marines, they have their own orders. Someone who loves the lore and the story should put this together, but Amazon will F it up like they did The Rings of Power which could have been on the CW...
Have you been following Sony and their brilliant move on Concord? Stupidity is an incurable virus.
indeed and the women's orders are a huge deal....i definetly would prefer NOT to be in the spoptlight of the sisters of silence or sororitas :D
The "women" in the thumbnail could easily be cosplayed in great unclean for sure
Papa Nurgle would love the “women” in question
A follower of nurgle
Dude great uncleans are 10 in comparison to that thing.
Or a female ogryn maybe?
@@ericbarton6690thats a insult to ogryns
You have someone who dedicated lots of time out of passion, knows the franchise in and out and genuinelly loves it arguing with some random pink haired who want's to push up his weirdo, deranged narrative into something he does not even know existed since 2 days ago.
Incredibly smart to push away someone with such passion in favor of some tristed asylum escapee
If amazon could just trust Henry Cavil and see his vision. The warhammer show would make tons of money and attract so many people to watch. Rather their woke and would destroy evrything.
Exactly!
the hilariius thing is they ignore the Sisters of Battle which is the problem they ignore established lore because it upsets them
If Henry cant run the show Amazon will make a political or agenda based half assed poor rip off of Warhammer. DEI destroying another amazing idea.
Amazon wants another Rings of Power cuz... you know... it works perfectly.
if by works perfectly you mean like manure works perfectly then yes! it stinks and no one wants to see it! then again manure does something useful so maybe not😀😀
I've been on the verge of unsubscribing Prime for some time now, there really is not much on there to keep me watching.
I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan, but somehow, despite its colossal budget, The Rings of Power is complete garbage.
If that is what they try to do to Warhammer 40k, maybe it's for the best Henry left.
i'm sure people who are woke enjoy it, maybe let them be
@@MGrey-qb5xz NO. The thing with woke people is, they bitch and moan and cry in order to get their way and make companies meet their delusional demands. But in the end they don’t even show up to support the product. They spoil every IP they touch.
@@MGrey-qb5xz NO. The thing with woke people is, they bitch and moan and cry in order to get their way and make companies meet their delusional demands. But in the end they don’t even show up to support the product. They spoil every IP they touch.
@@MGrey-qb5xz NO.
@MGrey-qb5xz you hit the nail on the head. It isnt even that Amazon cares about the source material. It isnt that they care about some woke agenda. The only thing they care about is reaching as many people as they can. And lets face it, the VAST majority of the population doesnt know or give a crap about WH40k. At all.
So in the eyes on Amazon THEY are the target audience. They are the source of success. They will happily destroy any franchise if it means tapping into the largest possible audience they can. It's a business.
For the Emperor's sake
I rather it cancelled that to ruin 40 almost 50 years of history
Female custodes being added randomly when they have the whole Adepta Sororitas they could use?
If they want to wokeify it then do not make it at all.
I just hope war hammer doesn’t get turned into woke shit like dnd
The joke is that women have their own elite warriors the sisters of silence.....
I’d rather not let it happen if it’s leaning DEI/WOKE stupid. Also, Ali Obese? YES! cast for Beast of Nurgle… 😂 The perfect cast role 👍
they could have just made a badass female sister of silence or Astates Sororetas (maybe even Celestine) which work together with the custodes depending on the story ofc.. but no they instead insist of a female custodes which will never and also should never happen Amazon just acts like a child in a supermarket who dosn't get the candy he wants and makes a drama out of it... there are plenty of options for making a "good written" female protagonist who works alongside a custodes on whatever mission or agenda
Give him a break please, all things he likes are being screwed over; superman, the witcher, now warhammer. For god's sake let him have the win
How is Amazon doing so perfect with fallout and so bad with warhammer
Warhammer is a straight up man's world but the woke alphabet people want change and they've been getting their way to kuch
Imma tell you right now henry cavill is the leader of the anti woke community god bless you henry cavill and may the emperor protect you!
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if they want female characters use the sisters of silence, battle sisters or the women who are in the imperial guard. there is no need to force female space marines or custodies to exist just to satisfy a shallow attempt at inclusion especially when warhammer is actually pretty inclusive if you look at all the factions and characters that already exist. either let Henry stick to the lore or don't make it.
It's funny how DEI is pushing for the woman custodes. Without knowing that they're pretty much just supporting traditional relationships where a woman stays in the house (Terra) doing house chores, and when the husband (Emperor) tells them to do something they do it without question. Hooray for DEI, now we get the Emperor and his harem of wives
We have sisters of silence and the sororitas for that.
Who look like women
This video is terrible, and the information was very out of date... this is just a seemingly plagiarized reposting of what others have already stated. Amazon and game work shop already went behind Henry's back. They edited the head of a custodian in a new episode of a series of Warhammer plus, and made a condescending sexist female custodes. Ruined the episode, and Amazon is getting a Woke episode of their own games workshop has made/making for Amazon. It contradicts almost all custodes lore.
Frankly i belive that Amazon execs are extremely conflicted rn on the topic of WH40k series, they wanted to put their agenda and have creative control over it and because Henry didnt bend and stood his ground they didn't feel like doing it ...
But all that happened months before Space Marine 2 released, was an instant massive commercial sucess and elevated Warhammer from this niche universe for nerds to something every casual gamer heard about, like potential target audience in matter of couple weeks propably grew tenfold.
We all know amazon is about money, and WH40k as of now is a potential goldmine for them.
Consider this. I'm playing devil's advocate.. no matter how much the fandom grew after space marine 2, the amount of people who dont know anything about it is still larger.
If you are amazon, and your goal is money. Do you make the handful of super fans happy, or do you appeal to the majority. For them its an easy decision. Appeal to the majority
The last thing amazon care about is money. They already have billions and also backed by trillions of blackrock,vanguard,dei dollars.They only care about their agenda and how to ruin everything people love.
This is easy money all they have to do is stick to the source material and let Henry collect the money for them.
If Amazon actually cares about making money, they let Henry cook. If not….well, we all saw what happened to Star Wars.
I'd rather have no Warhammer than Wokehammer. Activate the Talisman of Seven Suns boyz and call a waaaaagh to finish the job
There are female custodians on warhammer 40k called the Sisters of Silence the pariahs who’s innate ability is to kill Demons, and rogue and demonic psychic power users
Who wants to bet they try to make us swallow a gay relationship between space marines
They should be ashamed 😮
OMG, I WAS ENJOYING THE VIDEO, THEN AT 1:30 THAT FEMALE VOICE FROM HELL CAME IN! CLAWED AT MY EARS.... DRAINED MY WILL TO LIVE. LITERALLY UNLISTENABLE! INSTANTLY CLOSED THE VIDEO!!!! NOT A VOICE FOR LISTENING! ;-)
Loooool that was my reaction that shit took me out. Its Ai as well which makes it unnecessarily annoying
They wasted 1 billion dollars on Rings of Power, and disrespected and insulted the Lord of the Rings fans. If Cavill holds off until December, then we don't have to see another contender in the worst series in history.
I dont think Henry Cavil is going to accept to make a voke, DEI, LGBTQ+ warhammer show no matter how much money Amazon offers him. If Amazon dont let him make the show true to the source material I belive he will let the show get canceled and he absolutly shud I rather have no show at all then a shit show.
Henry should Cancel it. Because it's going to stain his Career
after seeing what they did to TWOT, nope hard pass if they have it amazon's way.
Do it Properly or Leave it alone and Don't Ruin it .......
We know what Cavil is defending . We know what Amazon tries to push. By default, we know.
From what all the rumours are saying, i vote to cancel the show. I’d rather it be done right or not at all.
We don’t need another show like Rings of Power.
Probably the same problem as Lord of the Rings, The Witcher and Acolyte etc.
Screenwriters and showrunners don't want to do their jobs and study lore to write an acceptable plot or at least hire consultants.
I honestly don't understand how you can hire such unresponsive people who are worse than amateurs writing fanfic on websites.
What next? Intelligent Ogryn or Greenskins, docile and friendly Tyranids? Chaos being actually friendly guys just being missunderstood?
A dramatic love triangle between a salamander, heretic, and chaplain.
@@JumpierNewt8956 made me spill my drink ahahahhaa
It'll be a fluffy piece on how good ork dad's are.
@@DamienSmyth-v6k got a better one, an Orc embraced his inner Gentleman and wishes to escape the violence of the Waagh and joining him a Khorne Berzerker finding value in life and Love, and a commissar seeing the errors of his Faith.
I never really believed it will be possible, not in this political climate. I think we need to wait another couple of years, some more spectacular woke flops need to go through streaming and cinema, much more money needs to be lost on senseless projects, and then, maybe it will be possible to create good WH show. In the meantime good luck and all the respect to Henry for attempting this.
Everybody knows Gorlock The Destroyer is a worshiper of Nurgle.
Nurgle denies. And want to leave as far as possible.
woke feminazi cancer is the worst thing ever.
Some lines from the movie Braveheart that I think about most days, and what I feel about the current state of the Modern World and all its facets:
Robert the Bruce : Lands, titles, men, power, nothing.
Robert's Father : Nothing?
Robert the Bruce : I have nothing. Men fight for me because if they do not, I throw them off my land and I starve their wives and their children. Those men who bled the ground red at Falkirk, they fought for William Wallace, and he fights for something that I never had. And I took it from him, when I betrayed him. I saw it in his face on the battlefield and it's tearing me apart.
Robert's Father : All men betray. All lose heart.
Robert the Bruce : I DON'T WANT TO LOSE HEART!!! I want to believe as he does.
And so do we all, true Patriots. Please don't betray or lose heart, Henry - and my fellow Discerning Nerds of Culture. We're with you whatever happens.
there are plenty of strong females in 40k. make other tv series content based on female characters but stay true to the story. If you think they should adjust the show to be more inclusive then read some of the books and you'll understand. this IP has the ability to churn out endless content. They could make an entire series on female 40k characters just by staying true to the lore. If this comes out as it is intended as per the lore there is infinite content to be made for male and female. Its actually not possible to make warhammer content with out females if you stay true to the lore....
There is already an army of women, the Sisters of Battle, and they are BADASS. No need to destroy the source material in order to tick some boxes. This should be a show for Warhammer fans.
Guys, guys, don't be disappointed. Instead, be proud.
I'm proud that there are men like Henry Cavill, who is a hardcore core fan and has the integrity to say no to the propagandists who twist our beloved stories.
Better be pure in death, than be defiled in life.
FOR THE EMPEROR.
- unknown kasrkin of the 821th kasrkin regiment.
Why did you slip a Lichking clip from warcraft into Warhammer ..
@Amazon, leave it ALONE!! Let Cavil do his stuff. He knows what hes doing. He knows the story. He KNOWS Warhammer 40k. You want the fans lining up, then let Cavil have the reigns.
Regarding the thumbnail, she could play nurgle…..just saying
It’s just like The Witcher all over again where Henry is the only one truly fighting for and defending titles and genres that all of us grew up with and loved and don’t want to see twisted into something that doesn’t even represent the original thing we fell in love with.
Just look at the success of Space Marine 2. Companies like Amazon and IGN can't stand when a character can be manly, uncomplicated, and still tell an amazing story.
Stand your ground Brother Henry, we would rather see the creations of chaos burn than ever bend to its will.
Amazon needs to chill and let content creators do their job. I remember when Amazon used to have a disclaimer saying that the shows on their stream services don't align with their personal ideals and these shows are for entertainment purposes. They should remember that and back off and let Cavil be faithful to the lore.
Creative differences is a nice way to say that Amazon wants to completely gut the franchise, ignore the lore, and spit in the face of Warhammer fans
it's a problem because warhammer is ultra masculine. not toxic, it's just all about grim sacrifice, brotherhood and constant loss and pyrrhic victories. There's plenty of females and diversity that are available in the setting but it's ultimately a masculine franchise. If you want something else, watch something else. If you want Warhammer keep it faithful. Good on him for holding his ground.
Cavill Hammer or No Hammer!
The IP allows plenty of opportunities for strong female characters without butchering the current setting.
If Amason aren't able do it proud, then they should just leave it for someone else who understands the IP better.
I have faith. The reason revolves around The Rings of Power show. It is objectively a poorly performing show. It isn’t bringing in the viewership that is proportional to the production value that has gone into creating it and part of the problem if not most is the lack of adherence to the source material for the sake of diversity and inclusion. If amazon execs can just look at numbers then perhaps they can take a chance and give Cavill a shot to do things the way they should be done.
Henry Cavill is our Primarch, our Hero, he won't bend the knee when it comes to something he loves so dearly, like all of us veterans of 40K, he has integrity and respect for the lore.
D.E.I. is the way for a francise or I.P. to D.I.E.
We don't want all this nonsense, I'm sure if there were male Sisters of Battle or Sisters of Silence, there'd be an outcry from the left.
Don't let casual tourists just ruin everything we've loved for decades, look at what has happened to Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who?
This is where we must draw the line and hold the gate.
It's worded almost like it's Cavill's fault for the potential cancelation of this show. This is no way at all his fault, he is sticking to his roots and being true to himself and his fellow fans. Everyone is on his side and this DEI is butchering so many things we all hold dear. Bring back basing things on merit rather than how you look or what you are.
I hate it’s when they try to bend and twist the original warhammer and push for wokness. Mist people don’t care, we just all want a great stories. And Henry cavill is the man to have a 100%say to this.
Considering there seems to be time travel in everything, just let cavil make his version the perfect version for what the emperor wants, make the first part like a would be vision of what NOT to do, would be
Its all Games workshop's fault for letting Amazon take control and making it how they want it not what the Audience need keep Warhammer 40000 REAL Good Luck Henry Cavill we are all with you
They would be absolute fools to not give Henry his demands. The people are frothing at the mouth for this to happen. Everyone loves his passion and desire to stay lore accurate. Not a single viewer, gamer, or fan want it to be woke on the least. And he would make them loads of money. They will only lose if they don’t give him his chance. I can assure you they will suffer massive backlash.
I'd 10,000% rather the show be just canceled than have Amazon absolutely butcher it with ticking DEI checkboxes.
Henry Cavill with white hair playing as Rogal Dorn would be amazing
No no, Amazon needs to get their heads out of the sand. Cavil needs to do exactly nothing. There is no middle ground.
Henry gained a lot of respect from the community because of this. Keep up the fight! Don't ruin this like they ruined Star wars and Halo!!
I would rather have WarHammer 40K series cancelled before they even start producing than have a woke pos.
I'd rather preserve the integrity of the IP, than shill it out to people who will never respect it, and mold it to fit their weak and broken mediocrity.
Cavill was smart to put an end to this charade. Amazon was never going to allow a Lore Accurate Warhammer 40K show.
Calling me a toxic fan is, at this point, a badge of honor.
Just like being a privileged, white, straight, middle class American Male. Racist? Sexist? Transphobic?
Badges of honor. It means I'm still normal. I don't even hate those people. I just disagree with their stupidity, and that makes me those things in their views.
They won't come to an agreement because the parent company (Games Workshop) has already bent the knee. Basically, they wanted Cavill to draw in fans because of his stance on lore. They were likely always planning this and hoped Cavill would just go with the flow, but they clearly don't understand fans anymore. All they've done is out themselves as another sell-out company among others that will do whatever they want with their IP even if it means abandoning fans. At least we got one last good 40k game out before they go full woke and then wonder why the money is all gone.
It's better to cancel and be remembered as a Hero than continue and be remembered as a Villain.
if the show doesn't get cancelled, its 100% would be a huge disappointment because I'm sure They will stab the lore with a huge unnecessary and irrelevant stuff.
I want Henry's version of 40k not Amazon's. It is either done with respect to the lore or not at all.
Amazon does not realise, if they stay out of it, and just give him the money to make it, they will earn limitless goodwill with fans.
If they push, he will just say no, and only Amazon will be blamed for the fiasko
Who put make up on that Ogryn? He’s not smart enough to understand you’re making fun of him.
Why are you dishonoring ogryns ?
Ogryns have more honor, loyalty and strength than gorlock will ever have
@@haroonmohammed6351 it’s a gorlock? Make up is crazy these days.
Dude ogryns are leagues above that thing
I’m excited to see this come to fruition, but not at the cost of destroying the lore. When they said female space marines 🤦♂️ that right there will ruin it.
I would rather see it shut down instead of ruined by corporate suits who don't care.
Amazon wants to make a Woke-Gay-Jewish Warhammer. Henry wants to make an epic.
If only Henry and other people like him came together to create a streaming platform that had shows/movies that they wanted to add, and didn't push all this bull**** propaganda blah blah blah, I would 100 percent be happy paying for THAT subscription, we could actually have good entertainment again
Gorlock the Destroyer would be perfect as a Greater Demon of Nurgle. They should cast it
I would rather they cancelled it than bend the knee and make it trash. What would be cool as a compromise is to let Cavill create his vision for 40k. Then after do warhammer fantasy Black Talon show which has a compelling Female lead and is a great story....
Better no Warhammer, than amazon shitfest... Amazon already destroyed one fantastic fantasy world... Do not let them destroy another...
Amazon not agreeing with the 40K Master is a bad move on Amazon
If they just let Cavill do 40k the way it is SUPPOSED TO BE, they will make a fortune! and make 99% of everyone that watches it happy! if you try and please everyone, you don't please anyone.
Ok hear me out... Cavill as the protagonist Space Marine, Samuel L Jackson as a Salamander, and Gorlock as Nurgle.
DEI ✅️
Based ✅️
No need for female Astartes or Custodes
You either die a Hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain.
Can someone seriously on a professional level explain what benefit you get from a show not being a hit success and dislike so much they never want to see it again? Are we just going into an era of denial and ignorance?.