American starts Danish Gymnasium Year 3

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • Maya talks about her first impressions in Gymnasium Year 3. Also a few other updates from Travelin' Young.
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  • @tineditmarunnerup9513
    @tineditmarunnerup9513 11 месяцев назад +66

    Maya, your Danish pronounciation is SO GOOD!!!

  • @pederfuglpedersen9091
    @pederfuglpedersen9091 11 месяцев назад +27

    Rart at se jer igen. Det er efterhånden længe siden. Jeg lagde mærke til at Maya er blevet helt god til dansk. Hendes udtale af "3.G" var lige i øjet! Like a pro!👍

  • @BenjaminVestergaard
    @BenjaminVestergaard 11 месяцев назад +15

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen Maya.
    The bit of Danish I heard was impeccable, that can only mean that further education is an open buffet to you. You really deserve it, no worries.
    Don't forget to celebrate what you achieve. Be young, be strong and be free. You already have the fame, now focus on the fortune you want. It's easy to burn out quickly if you start out wanting to become the prime minister... there's plenty of time.

  • @jeanricard918
    @jeanricard918 11 месяцев назад +9

    First of all Happy Birthday to Maya. Nice to see the channel is back, looking forward to the streams. Best of luck with year three.

  • @nemecec01
    @nemecec01 11 месяцев назад +4

    Er glad på dine vegne, Maya. Nyd det sidste år på gymnasiet. Gymnasietiden er pragtfuld.

  • @toddbonin6926
    @toddbonin6926 11 месяцев назад +7

    Joshua and Miranda, I'm just home from my two weeks in Denmark. I had the best vacation of my life, thanks largely to all that I've learned from your channel. Denmark really is the best country. I loved everything. I looked for you everywhere ... just knew I'd see you filming, but alas no. (And I got one of those parking dials for my rental car and was very careful not to park over the line anywhere.)

  • @Simpopcorn
    @Simpopcorn 11 месяцев назад +6

    Oh how sweet, Maya! You dont have to hurry! Im 29 and just back in july got my bachelor Degree at university of copenhagen! Lots of time to decide and People at the university is all different ages. Myself wasnt the oldest. But yes some are 18 and its fine. No one cares 😃

  • @oz1iom
    @oz1iom 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hjertelig tillykke med fødselsdagen Maya

  • @Bjarne_Duelund
    @Bjarne_Duelund 11 месяцев назад +2

    Happy Birthday Maya.

  • @stalker1983
    @stalker1983 11 месяцев назад +7

    This is fun to see, I went to american Highschool instead of gymnasium ( I am danish) so a bit of a reversal :) Good luck

  • @regitzeillum6713
    @regitzeillum6713 11 месяцев назад +6

    You should do one of your trips with Maya this year and go to Greece and see the museums and sights. She can train on recognising the different vases, sculpture styles and column styles and ace the Oldtidskundskab exam!
    My husband’s father took each of his grandchildren on such a tour, with a lot of lectures and storytelling, not a trip to relax but to learn, and they all did really great 😊.

    • @lschmidt5455
      @lschmidt5455 11 месяцев назад +1

      Great idea - my parents do the same with all their (3) grandchildren 😊

  • @vintermussen
    @vintermussen 11 месяцев назад +7

    tillykke med fødselsdagen Maya må du få en fantastisk dag :-)

  • @midsue
    @midsue 11 месяцев назад +3

    Dejligt at se Maya igen 🌼 og tillykke på fødselsdagen Maya 🎂💝🎁

  • @MrAndreasstache
    @MrAndreasstache 10 месяцев назад +1

    was on a trip to Copenhagen for the first time and needed to find a place to meet someone, but got lost. asked 3 nice young people for directions. I think I had seen the young lady before and asked if it was Maya from Travelin Young and it was. an honor to meet your daughter. love all your video. in super talented. Vh Andreas from Odense

    • @mayaanastasiayoung6739
      @mayaanastasiayoung6739 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes I remember you! Hope my directions were helpful and glad I could say hi!

  • @gubergasse
    @gubergasse 11 месяцев назад +1

    all best to Maya

  • @janetkelley8113
    @janetkelley8113 11 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome to see you guys again. Happy you had a good summer, looking forward to more videos and the table talk.

  • @brianrsnes7875
    @brianrsnes7875 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen @Maya 🇩🇰🇺🇸

  • @joenke9
    @joenke9 11 месяцев назад +3

    about time "mother & father" young is preparing for the studentergilde and studenterkørsels visit. 😁

  • @Purplefishish
    @Purplefishish 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen Maya. Good to see you guys back again

  • @maarteen89
    @maarteen89 11 месяцев назад +1

    Happy birthday Maya!
    Eller ja, tillykke med fødselsdagen :D

  • @0210rokvist
    @0210rokvist 11 месяцев назад +1

    I wish Maya all the best 🍀🍀🍀

  • @jamesabber7891
    @jamesabber7891 11 месяцев назад +1

    Mindre end et år før Maya kan tage en sjov hat på og kalde sig student. Tillykke med fødselsdagen.
    Jeg husker da jeg gik i tredie g. Det var en god tid.

  • @jyttegrundjensen5273
    @jyttegrundjensen5273 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen, Maya 🇩🇰🇺🇲🎂

  • @SrenRasmussen-xi2lp
    @SrenRasmussen-xi2lp 11 месяцев назад +4

    That Danish has come a long way Maya. So good pronouncing stuff now 😊

  • @jannissen4382
    @jannissen4382 11 месяцев назад +1

    You are back YEEEEES 😄😆And congratulation Maya

  • @kfd9278
    @kfd9278 11 месяцев назад +4

    Could you do a video off Maya reading/telling the "ruels and sympols" off the studenterhue to you guys?

    • @mayaanastasiayoung6739
      @mayaanastasiayoung6739 11 месяцев назад +2

      I believe when you order the hat it comes with a book of rules. So once I get my hat I would love to talk about it!

  • @Nina1966dk
    @Nina1966dk 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen Maya 😊

  • @Novacification
    @Novacification 11 месяцев назад +2

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen!

  • @ane-louisestampe7939
    @ane-louisestampe7939 11 месяцев назад +7

    Nice to see Maya! I hope she'll tell us what Religion as a subject is actually is about.
    Josh almost looked scared at the thought 😆

  • @lea6og
    @lea6og 11 месяцев назад +2

    A,B and C level means how difficult the class will be, and not just how long you have it for. The A level classes depends on what line you chose.

    • @BlackSpiderPro
      @BlackSpiderPro 11 месяцев назад +2

      not entirely wrong, but generally C level classes are 1 year, B level classes are 2 years, and C level classes are 3 years in duration.

    • @signebigne8736
      @signebigne8736 8 месяцев назад

      Men så er det jo også hvor lang tid man har det, det er jo klart det bliver sværere jo længere tid der går 😆

  • @xenobit7830
    @xenobit7830 11 месяцев назад +2

    Congratz maya :)

  • @MrFtoudalk
    @MrFtoudalk 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video. BTW, Happy birthday, Maya!

  • @Simpopcorn
    @Simpopcorn 11 месяцев назад +1

    Happy birthday 🎉

  • @akashassmuk
    @akashassmuk 11 месяцев назад +1

    3 Year is great and soo much fun :D The year will go soo fast :D

  • @Je-Razor
    @Je-Razor 11 месяцев назад +3

    I only had religion at C level in gymnasium. But my class got to visit 3 religious places where we could talk with people from that religion. (Jehovah's Witnesses, Islam and Buddhism)
    All 3 places were close to my gymnasium though so it might be easier to do at my old gymnasium than others in Denmark. But I think it depends a lot on the religion teacher you have and the location of your gymnasium.

  • @swagbag1835
    @swagbag1835 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tillykke til jeres skønne familie!

  • @jacobsgarage1458
    @jacobsgarage1458 11 месяцев назад +1

    Happy birthday 🎉and best wishes for the future ❤

  • @denise111
    @denise111 11 месяцев назад +2

    Happy Birthday, Maya. I look forward to hearing about your Danish high school experience. Our family is Danish-Canadian and our kids graduated high school in Canada before moving to Denmark. I am always curious to see what Danish high school is like. My husband says it was so long ago he mainly remembers the bus and the hat at the end. Perhaps some parties...

  • @Rimedur
    @Rimedur 11 месяцев назад +2

    Congrats with the 20 years ^^

  • @klausolekristiansen2960
    @klausolekristiansen2960 11 месяцев назад +3

    Latin is great! You get so many more of the jokes in Asterix! I had Latin in 9th grade of primary school, called 2. real back then.
    I really enjoyed oldtidskundskab.
    An episode from 3. G? At our translokation (graduation), we got our diploma and a handshake from rektor. My name was misspelled on my diploma, so I got a new one later. The diploma is an A3 sheet of paper, folded once to make four A4 pages. For some reason they had decided to put it an a C5 envelope, meaning that it was folded once more. I alone of all my class have a diploma without that unsightly extra fold. Not very exiting, I know, but there you go.
    I have no advice for you. I became a student in 1978. So much has changed since then that I don't know what might be useful to you.

  • @sleni5501
    @sleni5501 11 месяцев назад +1

    So funny at 13:40 "Update from Maya" gymnasium - well - it´s not a update from Maya, she almost had not said anything. It´s a Vlog from him to us - heard more talking from him to the us streamers, rather than she had the opportunity to share here thoughts and dreams to us as listeners. If you take this video from the beginning, the majority of this is fathers talk, not giving here the chance to enlighten us about her time in life. Sweet but a little weard...because is this should be a video for Maya´s story...but...😀 Love this family as always, but .,,yeah

  • @DoctorPastapus
    @DoctorPastapus 11 месяцев назад +1

    Congratulations hope you had a good birthday 🙂🎉

  • @marcuscole4394
    @marcuscole4394 11 месяцев назад +1

    Congrats, Maya. If I could, I'd send your family some Italian Beef and a chocolate cake from Portillos in Chicago for your celebration. You're doing what I wish I could have done when I was young and going to Denmark.

  • @sixxdog
    @sixxdog 8 месяцев назад +1

    You must be so proud of your daughter.. High School in Denmark is more like college in the US.

  • @dema8468
    @dema8468 11 месяцев назад

    14:40 - oldtids kundskab. You rock it maya!

  • @aarhusnord
    @aarhusnord 11 месяцев назад

    I am 52 now, and my "gymnasietid" was my greatest time so far. But not while I were in it. I just had to "survive" it back then ...
    Back in the late eighties there were no internet or cell phones. Hardly any computers. Oldtidskundskab and Latin were my favourites, very nerdish.

  • @slaydesaid8741
    @slaydesaid8741 11 месяцев назад

    Happy birthday Maya, Brisket and channel 😀

  • @metamon2704
    @metamon2704 11 месяцев назад +2

    Happy birthday 🎈

  • @MrMrspoulsen
    @MrMrspoulsen 11 месяцев назад

    Very nice to meet you at Bartof today - and Thanks for letting me take a picture of both of you together with my husband.

    • @TravelinYoung
      @TravelinYoung  11 месяцев назад +1

      It was wonderful to meet you as well! It was our pleasure!

  • @Nygaard2
    @Nygaard2 11 месяцев назад +1

    Latin ROCKS! No wait I mean: Latin is written on ROCKS!

  • @pjacobsen1000
    @pjacobsen1000 11 месяцев назад +3

    Second year IS the worst.
    1.G: Slacker year
    2.G: "Oh F**k, I'm so far behind, I gotta crunch"!
    3.G: I got this, I only have to get through finals.

  • @Gert-DK
    @Gert-DK 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hi Maya
    It might be too late, but if you later want to do the citizen's test, it might be a good idea with some Danish history.
    I know an African woman, she did the test. She told me what she had to learn. At some points she knew way more than me, and I consider me as being a little over average in history, after having lived here for 62 years.
    One of the questions she got was: "When did Queen Margrethe I reign?". That a hard one, I think.
    She passed the test, and it was the happiest woman I ever saw.
    To be fair, this several years ago, and I believe the tests has become a little easier. They found out that not many native Danes, could not pass the test either.
    Good luck in 3G.

    • @mayaanastasiayoung6739
      @mayaanastasiayoung6739 11 месяцев назад +5

      We do some danish history in my Danish class and covered it a small bit in history class in 1.g

    • @cynic7049
      @cynic7049 11 месяцев назад

      Swede here: "When did Queen Margrethe I reign?" if they want exact years that it hard, if roughly is OK any Nordic citizen should know it (the Nordic countries being more or less what she ruled over). But I guess half do not know.

    • @Gert-DK
      @Gert-DK 11 месяцев назад

      @@cynic7049 I believe it was multiple choice. But I still think it is an irrelevant question. I will bet nobody in my space knows it, they will just say "many hundred years ago". 🙂
      1376 - 1412.

    • @benthansen3415
      @benthansen3415 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@mayaanastasiayoung6739Tillykke med fødselsdagen kære Maya! 🇩🇰 Du føler dig mere og mere dansk og det er jeg glad for! Du er en pryd for vort land! ❤️💯🇩🇰

  • @Bjowolf2
    @Bjowolf2 11 месяцев назад +4

    Copenhagen Time?
    The Jutes will need to set their clocks 10 minutes forward 😂

  • @Finnec123
    @Finnec123 11 месяцев назад

    Statues, great idea. Don't forget Søren Kierkegaard in The Royal Library Garden (fgs). And some of his bons mots.

  • @adrianbuchwald4551
    @adrianbuchwald4551 9 месяцев назад +1

    Kinda random, but Maya, if you need help in latin or anything, I study latin at university of Copenhagen right now.

  • @stefaneriksen2036
    @stefaneriksen2036 11 месяцев назад

    I had to turn back three times, because maya saying Tredje G is more clear in how I could say it as a Dane

  • @ArtyYOU2
    @ArtyYOU2 11 месяцев назад +2

    Wow! Are you in 3g already - time passes by way too fast 😊

  • @JAKDK-dh3us
    @JAKDK-dh3us 11 месяцев назад +1

    Josh and Miranda: Have you made plans for the "Studentervogn" trip yet?
    Because that thing will rock your world, and be amazing content to the whole "US vs Denmark" thing. 😂🎉

    • @JAKDK-dh3us
      @JAKDK-dh3us 11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh and Maya?
      Congrats on getting so far in a language so different, your pronounciation of danish is spot on!
      You got this! No worries!

    • @TravelinYoung
      @TravelinYoung  11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh there have already been quite a few discussions about it! The studentervogn was ordered last year. Now we just wait to find out what place we are in the rotation so we can plan the food, drinks, and decorations!!

  • @davidpax
    @davidpax 11 месяцев назад +3

    Happy birthday Maya 🙂🎂👍.I hope your parents are proud of you. 3 years of Danish gymnasium must have a steep learning curve ,Danish not being your first language.

  • @Simpopcorn
    @Simpopcorn 11 месяцев назад

    Yes, Joshua, there is a graduation with diplomas been handling out 😃 right after you go to The trucks, but some Schools separates The ceromony and trucks by a day or Two 😃 my HF graduation and truck driving was The same day 🎉 sooooo fun 🎉

  • @malcolmii9655
    @malcolmii9655 7 месяцев назад

    As a dane with two readhaired daugters... Talking min. 50% over what is presentet as her story.... Oh boy! :D

  • @christianlorentzen6479
    @christianlorentzen6479 11 месяцев назад +1

    Tillykke Maya! 🎉 Albeit past your real birthday date...

    • @PepsiMaGs
      @PepsiMaGs 11 месяцев назад

      Ææææh, det håber jeg sandelig ikke! (Slå lige udenlandske ord op, før du bruger dem).

  • @pjacobsen1000
    @pjacobsen1000 11 месяцев назад +1

    My advice for 3.G (if you want good grades) is this: Spend some weekends going over all your old books from 1.G and 2.G, and review, review, review until you understand everything! This could bring you up a whole grade level, or even two! You can imagine your parents are Chinese, who will accept nothing less than straight As. (Thank me later, like, 15 years from now).

  • @olejensen3125
    @olejensen3125 11 месяцев назад +1

    🥰

  • @joyoverflowing9469
    @joyoverflowing9469 11 месяцев назад +4

    After ya’ll been in Dk so long I’m really surprised you both are still sounding so American & haven’t dropped the “like” every other word 😆

  • @malamutten3203
    @malamutten3203 11 месяцев назад +1

    Klokken 20.00 ??

  • @stefaneriksen2036
    @stefaneriksen2036 11 месяцев назад

    Maya. Do you have a wish going back to the US?

  • @dgh25
    @dgh25 11 месяцев назад

    LET HER SPEAK

  • @andersthomsen3409
    @andersthomsen3409 11 месяцев назад

    Remember all the traditions about the cap... They are very important

  • @ACH-DK
    @ACH-DK 11 месяцев назад +1

    Maya you are so sweet and beautiful ❤️

  • @word20
    @word20 11 месяцев назад

    You could make livestream when maya takes studenten

  • @holmbjerg
    @holmbjerg 11 месяцев назад

    Most people take a gap year. The main reason being that they don't know the direction they want to take in higher education and they need some time to figure that out.

  • @traver1965
    @traver1965 11 месяцев назад +1

    I hope she will kill the 3 year. And it is weird to see time fly. From the Maya who came here years ago and were not happy, to the Maya who is now going in 3G. I guess moving to Denmark has brought you all some hardship. Especially the kid. Btw is Maya the right way to spell it?. You people are a joy to watch. Not only because of your greats videoes but because you bring knowledge to expats living here or wanting to live here

  • @swagbag1835
    @swagbag1835 9 месяцев назад +1

    Latin is kinda fun:
    Sum, es, est. Læreren er et bæst.
    Sumus, estis, sunt. Vi drikker året rundt.

    • @sandramatras8345
      @sandramatras8345 7 месяцев назад +1

      Jeg lærte den sådan her i 1G:
      Sum, es, est. Læreren er et bæst
      Sumus, estis, sunt. Som gør os meget ondt.

  • @Globez123
    @Globez123 11 месяцев назад +1

    How is the average age when finishing high school in US compared to Denmark?

    • @poulhansen3813
      @poulhansen3813 11 месяцев назад +1

      18-19

    • @nielsholmlassen8275
      @nielsholmlassen8275 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@poulhansen3813the average is 19 I finished this summer and finished at 20 years old

    • @gabrielacarolina_
      @gabrielacarolina_ 11 месяцев назад +1

      I finished at 17 and was the youngest person my class because I skipped a grade

    • @ViktorFromDK
      @ViktorFromDK 11 месяцев назад

      Well average is around 19 yrs, the youngest ever was around 16 years old when he finished high school.

  • @alek0708
    @alek0708 11 месяцев назад +1

    Read the curriculum in oldtidskundskab because you can not bull shit yourself out of that subject unlike english and danish

  • @Finnec123
    @Finnec123 11 месяцев назад +2

    How on 🌍 do you get born with such beautiful red hair. Irish ancestors?
    [I know, stereotypical question, but nonetheless.]
    Please reply in Latin.

    • @TravelinYoung
      @TravelinYoung  11 месяцев назад +1

      Maya is the first in 3 generations to have red hair. It's double recessive so Josh and I both had to have the gene. My paternal grandmother and Josh's paternal great grandmother (I think thats the right grandmother!) had red hair. We also have a lot of Irish on both sides that came over in the 1800s.

    • @Finnec123
      @Finnec123 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TravelinYoung
      That could definitely explain it. DNA is a wonderful thing.
      You didn't reply in Latin, so here's my above reply in said language:
      Potest certe id explicare. DNA res mira est.
      Joking aside. DNA (inheritance) can often be observed very directly. Good/bad things from one side and the same from the other side. One can only hope for the best. Hair color is not the most important thing. I know from my own experience that what lies beneath the hair means a lot more.

  • @Lorentari
    @Lorentari 11 месяцев назад

    0:55 I think you mean "house keeping" :p

  • @sannehansen4156
    @sannehansen4156 11 месяцев назад

    Tillykke med fødselsdagen Maja🇩🇰 når du har 5 eller flere A niveau fag skal du vel have sort hue på??

    • @ane-louisestampe7939
      @ane-louisestampe7939 11 месяцев назад +1

      Det ville bare være sååå blæret 🥰

    • @mayaanastasiayoung6739
      @mayaanastasiayoung6739 11 месяцев назад

      Hej! Ja jeg kan få en sort hue men jeg tror at jeg skal bare være klassik og få den hvid 😊

    • @PepsiMaGs
      @PepsiMaGs 11 месяцев назад

      “Skal” er så meget sagt. Man kan vælge det, når man køber huen. Man kan også nøjes med fx et sort cover at tage udenpå den hvide.

  • @Joliie
    @Joliie 11 месяцев назад +1

    Year 3, it is such a cliché, nevertheless, remember to enjoy it, take a minute to look around you, take it all in, the year is over before you know it, smile to the world.

  • @houghi3826
    @houghi3826 9 месяцев назад +1

    Take that sabbatical. You will regret it later if you didn't and it will be worth it for your growth as a person.

  • @bentchristensen3770
    @bentchristensen3770 11 месяцев назад

    Skal bruge en fotograf 🌹

  • @gasolin75
    @gasolin75 11 месяцев назад

    she is cute

  • @tommyhammer
    @tommyhammer 11 месяцев назад +1

    2g var det værste…konstant flow af afleveringer og lektier. 3g var så meget bedre. Afsluttede gym i 1997…men husker der så tydeligt!

    • @mayaanastasiayoung6739
      @mayaanastasiayoung6739 11 месяцев назад

      Det er også så meget bedre med fagerne. Jeg har næsten igen fag som jeg hader nu. Min skema er mest A-fag og mit valgfager, så være dag er bare fuldt med fag som jeg elsker

  • @Google_Censored_Commenter
    @Google_Censored_Commenter 11 месяцев назад +1

    3. g is easier than 2. g - so the worst part is over Maya!

  • @eidodk
    @eidodk 11 месяцев назад

    Almost at the point where you're more or less forced to choose a direction.

  • @lorabenz
    @lorabenz 11 месяцев назад

    American historie is kinda short only 423 years

    • @Ikkeligeglad
      @Ikkeligeglad 11 месяцев назад

      Like two weeks ago 😉

  • @Glaaki13
    @Glaaki13 11 месяцев назад +1

    2nd y is the worst

  • @Bjowolf2
    @Bjowolf2 11 месяцев назад +1

    Oldtids-kundskab =
    "Old-tide('s)-ken-ship / -scape" 😉

  • @Nygaard2
    @Nygaard2 11 месяцев назад

    Religion (A) would be how to FOUND a religion... sadly they stopped offering that level after the 30-years war.

  • @Glaaki13
    @Glaaki13 11 месяцев назад

    American "histoty"

  • @knudsandbknielsen1612
    @knudsandbknielsen1612 11 месяцев назад

    One thing I really don't understand:
    How is someone a "poorr guy"
    for being last in an aphabetic order?
    I can't immagine any kid thinking
    that you have to be first
    in the alphabetical order, so that you
    can feel better than everyone.
    That has to be like religious training!
    It surely won't fly anywhere
    in my mind anno 1963,
    when I began school!
    There were way to many
    exiting people, and only the teacher
    kept me from exploding and imploding
    at the same time, with her structure and order.
    I didn't remember a single name
    after the first role call, and after that
    I was busy remembering!
    Loser vs winner seems to be
    more of an American thing.
    At least, I was in a different world
    than what you might call a competition.
    I was scared and interested.
    I had no concept of winners and losers,
    only of weirdos and straight forewards.
    The weirdos were difficult to understand.
    But that was all.
    I remember my childhood with
    much love and gratitude.
    I am not a winner or a loser.
    I am a human being.
    That's all it takes,
    and competition only takes away
    from that very simple truth.
    My father said:
    "I don't care what it says on the sign
    on your door. As long as it is
    a happy person that opens!"
    I believe that is wisdom 101.

    • @TravelinYoung
      @TravelinYoung  11 месяцев назад +4

      The expression “poor guy” here is when you have sympathy for someone and their situation. I have no idea where you are getting winners and losers from, that was never discussed. The point was that when there are 500+ names to be called one by one while walking across a stage, it is a bummer to be one of the last. It takes over an hour, so by the time they get to the end everyone is asleep. It has nothing to do with being better than someone else or being a loser, not sure why you are on a soapbox here.