Lol that’s funny. I watched this debate. Logic question was CAN you as a Muslim refer to allah as a father in any sense. Instead of answering the question yes or no. Uthamn tap danced and kept saying we as Muslim will not refer to allah as a father today. Different answer to a different question.
@@Easynowfriendi think their logic(Muslims) is they cannot use an example from the bible to answer the question about islam. That's what I'm understanding.
@@torti8476 bcoz we don't need the bible to explain about Islam... 😂 We don't believe in the bible anyway...WE HV THE QURAN..it was U GUYS who actually didn't believe in the bible....the word "christianity" was not even there in the bible, and u expect us to follow Christianity?? 🤷
Wait, Trinitarian Christians believe that the father has more authority?! That's a new edition of the concept, they are keep on dropping new editions I believe, I want a trinitarian Christian to tell me if he believes that the father has more authority over the son , and how they are co equal at the same time?
We say co-equal in essence not ranking/status even GodLogic explained that in this debate. Uthman forces his own understanding on the word "equal" and suits it for his narrative.
@@1geko818 maybe, but that only because each Christian come up with something new , I'm trying to understand the concept, since u every time I hear someone say a new thing
With all due respect, today’s Bible is NOT a preserved/authoritative source Numerical errors: *****How old was Ahaziah when he BECAME king, 22 or 42 years old? “Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri, king of Israel.” (2 Kings 8:26) “Ahaziah was forty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri.” (2 Chronicles 22:2) Note: in both verses, Ahaziah only reigned for one year and his mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri. *****How old was Joehoiachin when he BEGAN to reign, 8 or 18 years old? “Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.” (2 Kings 24:8) “Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD. (2 Chronicles 36:9) Clear contradictions: *****Who was against Israel and influenced David, either God or Satan (God and Satan CAN’T be synonymous)? “And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1) “Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.” (1 Chronicles 21:1) *****Who was the father of Joseph, either Jacob or Heli? “And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.” (Matthew 1:16) “And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,” (Luke 3:23) *****On the road to Damascus Paul saw a light and heard a voice. Did the people with Paul, hear a voice too, Yes or No? “And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.” (Acts 9:7) “And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.” (Acts 22:9) *****How did Judas die (hang himself or fall headlong in a field); and what did Judas do with the money (throw it away or buy a field)? “After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5) “After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18) Note: Headlong means falling head-first, NOT falling feet-first
This is pathetic. First are called scribal errors, textual varient, meaning we have earlier manuscripts by which we can determine which of the two NUMBERS lol are the right one. ( Funny how this is what you base your argument on ) Yes Paul saw a light of the man and heard a voice and heard what the voice said. The people with him only saw a light but couldn’t see the man, and they heard a voice but couldn’t understand what the voice said. Lacking the ability to understand scripture is common among muslims. Yes Judas hung himself, then his body rotted and bloated, then either the rope snapped or his head was decapitated due to rotting and the pressure of the rope, his body fell and his intestines exploded outward. Depending on when you came to see the body, you would see two different events. Again, no reading comprehension. The money he earned was used to buy a field therefore it’s attributed to him. Whoa what a contradiction lmao
So simplest refutation to this is. Is Allahs word corruptible? And if not why has the Bible the Word of Allah been corrupted? If it has then the Quran has also been corrupted. It’s a catch 22 in which both cases Islam is false
@@Esho_Israelwith all due respect, perhaps you should do some research on the “why” if you are a truth seeker and not a mischief maker. All the previous Prophets (Peace be upon them) including Jesus (Peace be upon him) were only sent to particular nations at particular times, so it is not meant to be for us. But Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) being the last Prophet/Messenger is sent for all nations until the end of time. "He (Jesus) answered, "I was Sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24) “And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (The Qur’an 21:107) As you know there are many versions of the Bible that people have changed (I.e., Catholic, Protestant, and Orthadox Bibles all have different number of books/gospels), changed/corrupted and not the original Gospel sent to Jesus (Peace be upon him) or Torah sent to Moses (Pbuh). Yet the Qur’an, being for all nations until the end of time is Preserved/Guarded by God and via millions of people memorizing it from cover-to-cover. “’How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? (Jeremiah 8:8) "So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from God," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." [The Qur'an 2:79] “This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah (God)-Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith].” (The Qur’an 2:2-4)
@@Esho_Israel Sincere and humble invitation to read The Qur’an, the preserved and last testament of The Almighty! From the Islamic view, we believe in the Injeel (Gospel given directly to Jesus, Peace be upon him) and the Torah (Scripture given directly to Moses, Peace be upon him). Today, as you know, are texts that came hundreds of years later written by anonymous authors, which has some remnants of God’s word/message, but they are watered down and changed with numerous errors/contradictions, which lacks authenticity/preservation. Yet The Qur’an has been memorialized by millions of people from cover-to-cover and it is preserved by God since its inception with zero contradictions/errors. Even the Birmingham manuscript of The Qur’an is dated to the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him). “Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah (God), they would have found within it much contradiction.” (The Qur’an 4:82) May God [Allah in Arabic and AaLaH in Aramaic (the language of Jesus Peace be upon him)] Guide you to fully read, understand, accept, and apply the message of the preserved and Last Testament of God, The Qur’an, and Guide you to Islam (Peace through submission to the Will of Allah/AaLaH (The One True God). Ameen (Amen). In Sha Allah (God Willing)! Best. Peace.
@@LoveAllahMost Listen to get into every single quote is very tedious and time consuming although you for example do not know what is going on at all when it comes to the Bible. First off, the Bible is not corrupted there is not multiple versions of the same Bible instead different canonizations that we can study independently or is accepted by a community, we can prove this via 300 AD compilations of the new testament, 5,700 Greek Manuscripts of the New Testament that also confirm the completed ones that exist today. All the things you point out are so weak it's ridiculous. Also your statements and the quotes you provide contradict each other? Why is it that in the New Testament one of the miracles is to pass down the Holy Spirit to give The Apostles the power to speak in different tongues to evangelize worldwide whereas Muhammud false God could only speak Arabic? Might I add to your quote on Matthew 15:24 you purposefully take out of context his dialogue with a women who was an enemy to Jews and ends up like this: Matthew 15:28 " Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour." Also, Jeremiah 8:8 interesting that you have made your own interpretation of this using the same script as other Muslim apologists do. Jeremiah 8:7 states "Even the stork in the sky knows her appointed seasons, and the dove, the swift and the thrush observe the time of their migration. But my people do not know the requirements of the LORD." this claiming that the people of Israel at the time did not listen to the word of God not confirming the corruption. What's so disingenuous is you won't read the rest of the Chapters of the Book of Jeremiah because it explains all of this. There are dozens of quotes in support of the Book of the Christians (Gospels) and the Torah and the Zabur. Not only are you a disingenuous liar, you are condescending while doing no research of your own and assuming my knowledge. I have read the Quran, the Hadiths, I have Muslim friends that answer my questions and I answer there's on top of that I have read the Old Testament and the New as any "good Muslim" should but you evidently have not. Stop with your lies return to Christ.
@@chitownpali83 quite the opposite, you can find the full debate on God logics channel, at least he can post the full video and you Muslims have to cherry pick parts of the video
@@unidentified5390well of coz he can post it...bcoz he has the full version of it....but that doesn't mean that he is right anyway...bcoz he just asking a question.....bcoz at the end...Uthman ALREADY ANSWERED HIS QUESTION...
I dare every Christian to answer these questions If you can with prove and logic without preaching than I become Christian: Can you tell me why Adam is not the son of God but Jesus is? Adam is the first human. Why should he not be a God or son of God? Secondly why has other prophets before jesus not mentioned the trinity or that jesus would become/was a son of god? And also why did not mention the spirit as well? Thirdly did Jesus receive the Gospels that you now have? And show me where it says that? To which people was Jesus send? Why are you following him?
Jesus came to save the whole world, (John 3:16). 2, all the writters of the Bible wrote about the Trinity. Genesis 19:24 read the whole chapter to understand the context better, also Daniel 7:8-12, also Matthew 28:19, Adam was created by God and so we can call him a child of God if he is doing things that are just
Avery has never been able to defend Christianity nor could he make sense of the Trinity. His teacher Sam always falls into heresy when giving examples of how the Trinity is. The Jews never understood the term Father or Son in the literal sense that the Christians insist it means when it refers to Jesus. They don't enforce this when the same terms are used by others.
That’s a lie Avery always defended it and Sam never fell into heresy you’re just lying and the Jews actually did understand that God had a divine son Matthew 26:63. Also the Targum Neofiti pretty much confirms that the Jews did believe that God had an divine son. Another thing is that you can’t call Allah father in any sense
@@Yuji_Itadori_157 Nope. That's not a lie. Avery is unable to defend his faith and always runs to the Qur'an. He did similar when questioned about it when he was debating Beyond Doubt Theology. Sam used a car as an analogy to the trinity. He used H2O as well. He fell into the heresy of partialism and modalism without realising it. There are videos of him doing so. Jake Brancatella has recently highlighted this in a recent video, though he isn't the only one to do so. From what little I know about the Targum Neofiti, it is dated between 1st century to 4th century CE, generally viewed as being written in late 2nd Central, and has Hellenistic influence. It doesn't evidence the trinity and even in his blog he mentions that near the top about a footnote and how it affects the translation: (1) The word Memera, logos, is probably [sic] missing in the text, as a hand has erased the waw of shakel, and therefore one should translate . In Jewish-Christian dialogue Bereshit was often translated ; cf. A. Diez Macho in Melanges E. Tisserant, I, Rome, 1964, 1974. (Ibid., p. 497) Sam and you have to prove Jews did actually believe in an actual son and not just insert Christian theological beliefs into text (even when Alter for instance gives a different understanding, such as references to them as angels).
@@WelcomeToTheRezvolution So first of all you’re lying again about Sam he never used it for the Trinity he just showed that in earth there can be a compound unity. Second of all Avery still defends the Trinity if you watch his streams and the Targum Neofiti is a Jewish source which shows that God has a divine son just look at Genesis .Also I brought verses where the Jews believed in a divine son which you haven’t responded so far
@@Yuji_Itadori_157 Why are you lying here? He did use it for the trinity. The fact you mentioned "compound unity" shows this. And that would mean something made up of parts, i.e. a car, and fall into the heresy of partialism. There are literally videos of him doing this. I suggest you actually watch the video, made by Jake, I referred to earlier that shows him doing this and breaks down each analogy he uses. In fact it even shows he argues this when confronted by someone making the claim that it falls into heresy. If you aren't going to watch the video, don't call others who have literally seen Sam doing so lying. The fact you haven't seen it isn't my fault. Avery fails at defending the Trinity. Watch his debate with Beyond Doubt Theology. He runs to the Qur'an and fails to defend the Trinity. Again, stop lying and actually watch the video of his debate. I'm sick and tired of liars like you who make claims but don't actually watch anything I'm referring to. And all I see is your reference to Matthew, which won't really have anything to do with my comments about the Jews. If you made other comments, I don't see them. You can try and defend Sam and Avery all you like, but I've literally seen videos of them doing exactly what I've said. Again, not my fault you've not seen them. Not my fault you don't understand that
@@WelcomeToTheRezvolution Okay I watch the clip and he said not for the Trinity or something similar so stop lying and I didn’t watch the debate but I watched other debates from Logic and he defended it and the verse about Matthew has to do something with the Jews. This is my last comment because we can’t agree so bye and God bless
“Because Hebrew lacks a word for “daddy,” the regular Aramaic word for “father,” abba, was borrowed into Modern Hebrew with the nuance of “daddy.” This is, of course, a late construct and cannot be used as evidence that abba was used for “daddy” in the Hebrew or Aramaic of the New Testament period.” (Paul Y. Hoskisson, 2005)
@@jasonsingh8950Be more humble bc you sound very arrogant. The Torah and New Testament of today has been corrupted due to Satan influencing lying scribes. This is why today’s so-called Israel is doing evil on a mass scale. “’How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? (Jeremiah 8:8)
@@jasonsingh8950 With all due respect, today’s Bible is NOT a preserved/authoritative source Numerical errors: *****How old was Ahaziah when he BECAME king, 22 or 42 years old? “Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri, king of Israel.” (2 Kings 8:26) “Ahaziah was forty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri.” (2 Chronicles 22:2) Note: in both verses, Ahaziah only reigned for one year and his mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri. *****How old was Joehoiachin when he BEGAN to reign, 8 or 18 years old? “Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.” (2 Kings 24:8) “Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD. (2 Chronicles 36:9) Clear contradictions: *****Who was against Israel and influenced David, either God or Satan (God and Satan CAN’T be synonymous)? “And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1) “Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.” (1 Chronicles 21:1) *****Who was the father of Joseph, either Jacob or Heli? “And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.” (Matthew 1:16) “And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,” (Luke 3:23) *****On the road to Damascus Paul saw a light and heard a voice. Did the people with Paul, hear a voice too, Yes or No? “And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.” (Acts 9:7) “And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.” (Acts 22:9) *****How did Judas die (hang himself or fall headlong in a field); and what did Judas do with the money (throw it away or buy a field)? “After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5) “After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18) Note: Headlong means falling head-first, NOT falling feet-first
@@jasonsingh8950 Sincere and humble invitation to read The Qur’an, the preserved and last testament of The Almighty! From the Islamic view, we believe in the Injeel (Gospel given directly to Jesus, Peace be upon him) and the Torah (Scripture given directly to Moses, Peace be upon him). Today, as you know, are texts that came hundreds of years later written by anonymous authors, which has some remnants of God’s word/message, but they are watered down and changed with numerous errors/contradictions, which lacks authenticity/preservation. Yet The Qur’an has been memorialized by millions of people from cover-to-cover and it is preserved by God since its inception with zero contradictions/errors. Even the Birmingham manuscript of The Qur’an is dated to the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him). “Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah (God), they would have found within it much contradiction.” (The Qur’an 4:82) May God [Allah in Arabic and AaLaH in Aramaic (the language of Jesus Peace be upon him)] Guide you to fully read, understand, accept, and apply the message of the preserved and Last Testament of God, The Qur’an, and Guide you to Islam (Peace through submission to the Will of Allah/AaLaH (The One True God). Ameen (Amen). In Sha Allah (God Willing)! Best. Peace.
And we don't see jesus worshiping anybody, cause at least in Christianity prayer doesn't mean only worship, it means also the communication with god soo jesus is communicating with god, and i don't see any problem with that.
@@Saba-tt7xf This is an interesting answer, but when have you ever seen someone use "I pray to someone" as a form of communication in the bible between humans, and not in the context of Humans and Jesus praying to the Father. You literally came up with your interpretation without even thinking through what you just said 🤦🏻 We Muslims also believe that talking and communication with God is a form of worship. We literally pray 5 times a day to communicate with God. pray" primarily refers to religious or spiritual communication with a higher power, not with humans.
@@an_nie_dyc1386 they were outisde buddy. It was an obv connection lost kiddo. Why would uthman leave on purpose if he cooked godlogic the entire debate buddy.
@HeLpLOstGOdAny1 Prophet Muhammad ( saws) was only a prophet and human being... in your bible, Jesus is called lamb, so according to your bible your God became flesh a animal 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine lying to yourself and being proud of it. What then is the Lord's prayer? When Jesus said Our Father who hath in Heaven? Was he joking or was he lying. In Islam Allah has no children meaning Allah CANNOT BE truly loving. In Christianity, we Christians know we are the children of God, Sons of God and co-heirs with Christ. Infact, we are one wirh Jesus Christ same way He is One with God The Father
@Muhammed-islam22 Tell me, what greater love is there on earth than the love parents have for their children. For God to be truly All Loving, then His Love must surpass the love parents have for their children. But how can one have a greater love than this if He has no children.
@@eikmaladam6145 Whatever the Bible says I am, that is who I am. You are free to reject the belief that all who come to Christ, become sons and children of God through Him, it's alright. But the truth remains truth forever!
God is One and eternal - 1 God's Word is uncreated and eternal and a part of God because it came from Him - 2 The Spirit of God Which is uncreated and eternal came from God - 3 * You are identified by your words because your word is you. That's why your friends and family immediately they hear your voice recognize its you. Same way with God, The word of an Eternal God is Him. His word Identify Him and God being Eternal means His word, which identify Him is also Eternal. In this case, The word of God personified as The Lord Jesus Christ Here. Now, The Spirit of God which also came from an eternal God must be eternal as He is. Think of this as the DNA of God or life force of an uncreated God. How can God breath life(spirit) into a lifeless body of the first man Adam if God isn't life. Even after all this, this is why man never ceases to exist after death, because within our spirit and soul is a substance(DNA/spirit/life force) of the uncreated God in us that makes us eternal as He is. So Yes; God The Father God The Son (The word of God) God The Spirit are uncreated and all 3 are One.
Request to all my Muslim bdithers, let’s seek the truth. Ask Jesus, if he is god make himself reveal to you. I strongly believe you will feel his presence. Do it with an honest heart, it will change your life I promise you. I hope this will save atleast one of my Muslim brothers. God bless you all
I've spoken to Allah and he has responded in seconds. More than once. Why would I pray to Allah's creation? Allah is more than sufficient. Even in your own scripture Jesus says the Father is the ONLY true God in John 17:3. Jesus is the son and the son is not the father. God also gave you a mind to reason. Use it.
@@sub7se7en What responses were those, what evidence do you have? Is it anything that can be shown to have supporting forensic evidence that can be verified or just more the same as is shown under islame of centuries and centuries of over the top claims and surreal dream like fables that refute all known forensic reality. Surely the claims should align with reality perfectly, surely the claims of islame should be so beyond all shadow of doubt every major scientist and all the world's top critical thinkers would have long ago converted. Why did 2 high ranking muslims die after cursing Israel recently? As advised in the Torah never to do. . .. are the re any examples of the opposite? -
@@sub7se7en What responses were those, what evidence do you have? Is it anything that can be shown to have supporting forensic evidence that can be verified or just more the same as is shown under islame of centuries and centuries of over the top claims and surreal dream like fables that refute all known forensic reality. Surely the claims should align with reality perfectly, surely the claims of islame should be so beyond all shadow of doubt every major scientist and all the world's top critical thinkers would have long ago converted. Why did 2 high ranking muslims die after cursing Israel recently? As advised in the Torah never to do. . .. are the re any examples of the opposite?
Why would I pray and talk to a prophet,when I can talk to the creator.Thats exactly the reason why Christian’s are Christian’s,they do what their emotions tell them,do what is “logical” ask the creator.May Allah(swt) guide us
@@radijaye7435 my brother not only should you watch the full video but he has to fabricate the meaning of “Father” having no place in the context of Aramaic which is completely untrue as the literal word used by Jews is just straight “Our Father” 😂😂. Uthman has to straight lie to get anywhere in life.
@@Esho_Israel looool the father used by them doesn't mean literal father which is a fact and that's what he is saying and he gave an example where the word father didn't mean the literal meaning .and he literally said he has no problem if they ised father as an endearment word .so try other thing
I presume that you are an evangelical christian and you believe in the doctrine of the trinity and vicarious atonement but not doing good works then you also believe as long as a man who rapes and murders your daughter and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rapes and murders your sister and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rape and murders your mother and then repents and later on sin the same sin or rapes and murders your wife and then repents and later on sin the same sin and evangelical christian still believes in the doctrine of the trinity and also believes that Jesus Christ died on the cross for his sins that he will be forgiven and will go to heaven and despite continuing to rape and murder innocent people but will still go to heaven as he still believe in the doctrine of the trinity and also as long as he still believes that Jesus died on the cross because you believe that this man is your evangelical christian brethren who you will embrace him but you also believe that good works are just like dirty rags according to your apostle Paul as your apostle Paul also said that faith alone believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins they you are forgiven and will go to heaven is your only salvation. According to christian evangelical theology, good works are the consequence of salvation and not its justification. They are the sign of a sincere and grateful faith. They include actions for the Great Commission, that is, Christian evangelism, service in the Church and charity. So Good works is a consequence but not a necessity for christian evangelical salvation. That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ~Romans 10:9-10 You cannot be saved by your good works, because no matter how hard you try, your “good” is not good enough for the perfectly holy and completely righteous God who alone grants salvation. Nor can you be saved by your moral perfection-no matter how moral or how perfect you are. As the Old Testament prophet Isaiah points out, your righteousness is about as good as a “snot rag”. (Isaiah 64:6 ). I have actually cleaned that up a bit, because the Hebrew phrase for filthy rags, ukabeged ehdim, literally means, “like as rags of menstruation.” Sorry if that disgusts you, but it’s Scripture-so blame Isaiah. The point is, both our acts of righteousness, and the quality of righteousness that we hope they produce, are disgusting to God. So if you are disgusted by Isaiah’s language, think of how God, who inspired Isaiah to choose those coarse words, is repulsed by our efforts to get him to save us. So what hope, then, is there for our salvation? Well, frankly, no hope resides within us. None whatsoever. Ephesians 2:1 says “As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins.” That’s how hopeless we are apart from God’s work to save us. You see, all a dead person can do is lay there and be dead, let alone try to be righteous before God.
Full video because sheikh uthman embarrassed himself and Allah Is Allah a father in any sense Sheikh uthman - hhmm the bible is corrupted Gdl- is Allah a father in any sense Sheikh uthman - oh trinity is 😅😅😅😅
😂😂😂 WHAT UTHMAN DON'T UNDERSTAND IS BEFORE JESUS BECAME FLESH AND BLOOD IN MARY WOMB HE WAS SPIRIT , ( GOD ) 😂 WHEN HE WAS WALKING AMONG MENS ON THIS EARTH PREACHING THE WORD ABOUT HIS FATHER ( HIMSELF ) .. HE BECAME LIKE US ON THIS EARTH HE LOWER HIMSELF THEN THE ANGELES , JUST LIKE US SO BY SHOWING HIS DISCIPLES ON THIS EARTH HE TELL THEM THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD PRAY , BY SAYING ... ( OURER FATHER ) 😅 IN OTHER WORDS THINK WHO WAS JESUS BEFORE HE BECAME FLESH AND BLOOD AND USED THE NAME OF HIS FATHER .. JESUS. 😂
No wonder people are leaving Christianity.😊
No wonder why people are leaving Islam
Lol that’s funny.
I watched this debate. Logic question was CAN you as a Muslim refer to allah as a father in any sense.
Instead of answering the question yes or no.
Uthamn tap danced and kept saying we as Muslim will not refer to allah as a father today.
Different answer to a different question.
@@Easynowfriendi think their logic(Muslims) is they cannot use an example from the bible to answer the question about islam. That's what I'm understanding.
@@torti8476 bcoz we don't need the bible to explain about Islam... 😂 We don't believe in the bible anyway...WE HV THE QURAN..it was U GUYS who actually didn't believe in the bible....the word "christianity" was not even there in the bible, and u expect us to follow Christianity?? 🤷
@@eikmaladam6145 can you refer to Allah as a father yes or no?
Wait, Trinitarian Christians believe that the father has more authority?! That's a new edition of the concept, they are keep on dropping new editions I believe, I want a trinitarian Christian to tell me if he believes that the father has more authority over the son , and how they are co equal at the same time?
I think orthodox Christians believe that. Surprised to hear it from a protestant. At least I think he's protestant.
We say co-equal in essence not ranking/status even GodLogic explained that in this debate. Uthman forces his own understanding on the word "equal" and suits it for his narrative.
Its only a new edition for you, where as for us its ancient.
@@1geko818 so they are equal in some things and not equal in other things?
@@1geko818 maybe, but that only because each Christian come up with something new , I'm trying to understand the concept, since u every time I hear someone say a new thing
With all due respect, today’s Bible is NOT a preserved/authoritative source
Numerical errors:
*****How old was Ahaziah when he BECAME king, 22 or 42 years old?
“Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri, king of Israel.” (2 Kings 8:26)
“Ahaziah was forty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri.” (2 Chronicles 22:2)
Note: in both verses, Ahaziah only reigned for one year and his mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri.
*****How old was Joehoiachin when he BEGAN to reign, 8 or 18 years old?
“Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.” (2 Kings 24:8)
“Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD. (2 Chronicles 36:9)
Clear contradictions:
*****Who was against Israel and influenced David, either God or Satan (God and Satan CAN’T be synonymous)?
“And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1)
“Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.” (1 Chronicles 21:1)
*****Who was the father of Joseph, either Jacob or Heli?
“And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.” (Matthew 1:16)
“And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,” (Luke 3:23)
*****On the road to Damascus Paul saw a light and heard a voice. Did the people with Paul, hear a voice too, Yes or No?
“And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.” (Acts 9:7)
“And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.” (Acts 22:9)
*****How did Judas die (hang himself or fall headlong in a field); and what did Judas do with the money (throw it away or buy a field)?
“After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
“After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)
Note: Headlong means falling head-first, NOT falling feet-first
This is pathetic. First are called scribal errors, textual varient, meaning we have earlier manuscripts by which we can determine which of the two NUMBERS lol are the right one. ( Funny how this is what you base your argument on )
Yes Paul saw a light of the man and heard a voice and heard what the voice said. The people with him only saw a light but couldn’t see the man, and they heard a voice but couldn’t understand what the voice said.
Lacking the ability to understand scripture is common among muslims.
Yes Judas hung himself, then his body rotted and bloated, then either the rope snapped or his head was decapitated due to rotting and the pressure of the rope, his body fell and his intestines exploded outward.
Depending on when you came to see the body, you would see two different events. Again, no reading comprehension.
The money he earned was used to buy a field therefore it’s attributed to him. Whoa what a contradiction lmao
So simplest refutation to this is.
Is Allahs word corruptible?
And if not why has the Bible the Word of Allah been corrupted?
If it has then the Quran has also been corrupted.
It’s a catch 22 in which both cases Islam is false
@@Esho_Israelwith all due respect, perhaps you should do some research on the “why” if you are a truth seeker and not a mischief maker.
All the previous Prophets (Peace be upon them) including Jesus (Peace be upon him) were only sent to particular nations at particular times, so it is not meant to be for us. But Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) being the last Prophet/Messenger is sent for all nations until the end of time.
"He (Jesus) answered, "I was Sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)
“And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (The Qur’an 21:107)
As you know there are many versions of the Bible that people have changed (I.e., Catholic, Protestant, and Orthadox Bibles all have different number of books/gospels), changed/corrupted and not the original Gospel sent to Jesus (Peace be upon him) or Torah sent to Moses (Pbuh). Yet the Qur’an, being for all nations until the end of time is Preserved/Guarded by God and via millions of people memorizing it from cover-to-cover.
“’How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? (Jeremiah 8:8)
"So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from God," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." [The Qur'an 2:79]
“This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah (God)-Who believe in the unseen, establish prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them, And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and of the Hereafter they are certain [in faith].” (The Qur’an 2:2-4)
@@Esho_Israel Sincere and humble invitation to read The Qur’an, the preserved and last testament of The Almighty!
From the Islamic view, we believe in the Injeel (Gospel given directly to Jesus, Peace be upon him) and the Torah (Scripture given directly to Moses, Peace be upon him). Today, as you know, are texts that came hundreds of years later written by anonymous authors, which has some remnants of God’s word/message, but they are watered down and changed with numerous errors/contradictions, which lacks authenticity/preservation.
Yet The Qur’an has been memorialized by millions of people from cover-to-cover and it is preserved by God since its inception with zero contradictions/errors. Even the Birmingham manuscript of The Qur’an is dated to the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him).
“Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah (God), they would have found within it much contradiction.” (The Qur’an 4:82)
May God [Allah in Arabic and AaLaH in Aramaic (the language of Jesus Peace be upon him)] Guide you to fully read, understand, accept, and apply the message of the preserved and Last Testament of God, The Qur’an, and Guide you to Islam (Peace through submission to the Will of Allah/AaLaH (The One True God). Ameen (Amen). In Sha Allah (God Willing)! Best. Peace.
@@LoveAllahMost Listen to get into every single quote is very tedious and time consuming although you for example do not know what is going on at all when it comes to the Bible.
First off, the Bible is not corrupted there is not multiple versions of the same Bible instead different canonizations that we can study independently or is accepted by a community, we can prove this via 300 AD compilations of the new testament, 5,700 Greek Manuscripts of the New Testament that also confirm the completed ones that exist today. All the things you point out are so weak it's ridiculous.
Also your statements and the quotes you provide contradict each other? Why is it that in the New Testament one of the miracles is to pass down the Holy Spirit to give The Apostles the power to speak in different tongues to evangelize worldwide whereas Muhammud false God could only speak Arabic?
Might I add to your quote on Matthew 15:24 you purposefully take out of context his dialogue with a women who was an enemy to Jews and ends up like this: Matthew 15:28 " Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour."
Also, Jeremiah 8:8 interesting that you have made your own interpretation of this using the same script as other Muslim apologists do. Jeremiah 8:7 states "Even the stork in the sky knows her appointed seasons, and the dove, the swift and the thrush observe the time of their migration. But my people do not know the requirements of the LORD." this claiming that the people of Israel at the time did not listen to the word of God not confirming the corruption. What's so disingenuous is you won't read the rest of the Chapters of the Book of Jeremiah because it explains all of this.
There are dozens of quotes in support of the Book of the Christians (Gospels) and the Torah and the Zabur.
Not only are you a disingenuous liar, you are condescending while doing no research of your own and assuming my knowledge. I have read the Quran, the Hadiths, I have Muslim friends that answer my questions and I answer there's on top of that I have read the Old Testament and the New as any "good Muslim" should but you evidently have not.
Stop with your lies return to Christ.
Drop the full debate
NoLogic is the biggest cutter so dont try to play smart😂😂😂
@@iplay8348 He uploaded the full debate on his channel and you can watch it, but again I understand lying is in your religion
@@joyzzygWtf are you talking
this guy is always cutting his videos 😂
@@iplay8348 Does he have the full debate on his yt? Yes he does, your point is not backed up by anything lol
@@iplay8348Look in the yt the full dabate and you will see who's running away and never came back 😂😂😂 uthman disappear as quickly as he did 😂😂😂
Logic cooked him again lol
Uthman police be upon him is not on Logic’s level.
I want a round 2 . The Muslims phone died apparently… cmon man. Charge your phone and be ready next time. Bring a charger with you. No excuses.
JESUS cook doglogic 🤣
@@patricknjagi703dodge logic
How?
Jesus was a prophet and a Muslim as he worshipped his God which is my God too and Mary 11 never worshipped Jesus
why not show the full debate
he didnt wana emberass the christians anymore then they already were
@@chitownpali83 quite the opposite, you can find the full debate on God logics channel, at least he can post the full video and you Muslims have to cherry pick parts of the video
@@unidentified5390 i seen it and christians got cooked 🍳🥘
Uthman got cooked soooo hard, he had to leave with "the phone died"
@@unidentified5390well of coz he can post it...bcoz he has the full version of it....but that doesn't mean that he is right anyway...bcoz he just asking a question.....bcoz at the end...Uthman ALREADY ANSWERED HIS QUESTION...
I dare every Christian to answer these questions If you can with prove and logic without preaching than I become Christian:
Can you tell me why Adam is not the son of God but Jesus is? Adam is the first human. Why should he not be a God or son of God?
Secondly why has other prophets before jesus not mentioned the trinity or that jesus would become/was a son of god? And also why did not mention the spirit as well?
Thirdly did Jesus receive the Gospels that you now have? And show me where it says that?
To which people was Jesus send? Why are you following him?
Jesus came to save the whole world, (John 3:16).
2, all the writters of the Bible wrote about the Trinity. Genesis 19:24 read the whole chapter to understand the context better, also Daniel 7:8-12, also Matthew 28:19,
Adam was created by God and so we can call him a child of God if he is doing things that are just
I can't believe i followed islam at one point!
Avery has never been able to defend Christianity nor could he make sense of the Trinity. His teacher Sam always falls into heresy when giving examples of how the Trinity is.
The Jews never understood the term Father or Son in the literal sense that the Christians insist it means when it refers to Jesus. They don't enforce this when the same terms are used by others.
That’s a lie Avery always defended it and Sam never fell into heresy you’re just lying and the Jews actually did understand that God had a divine son Matthew 26:63. Also the Targum Neofiti pretty much confirms that the Jews did believe that God had an divine son. Another thing is that you can’t call Allah father in any sense
@@Yuji_Itadori_157 Nope. That's not a lie. Avery is unable to defend his faith and always runs to the Qur'an. He did similar when questioned about it when he was debating Beyond Doubt Theology.
Sam used a car as an analogy to the trinity. He used H2O as well. He fell into the heresy of partialism and modalism without realising it. There are videos of him doing so. Jake Brancatella has recently highlighted this in a recent video, though he isn't the only one to do so.
From what little I know about the Targum Neofiti, it is dated between 1st century to 4th century CE, generally viewed as being written in late 2nd Central, and has Hellenistic influence. It doesn't evidence the trinity and even in his blog he mentions that near the top about a footnote and how it affects the translation:
(1) The word Memera, logos, is probably [sic] missing in the text, as a hand has erased the waw of shakel, and therefore one should translate . In Jewish-Christian dialogue Bereshit was often translated ; cf. A. Diez Macho in Melanges E. Tisserant, I, Rome, 1964, 1974. (Ibid., p. 497)
Sam and you have to prove Jews did actually believe in an actual son and not just insert Christian theological beliefs into text (even when Alter for instance gives a different understanding, such as references to them as angels).
@@WelcomeToTheRezvolution So first of all you’re lying again about Sam he never used it for the Trinity he just showed that in earth there can be a compound unity. Second of all Avery still defends the Trinity if you watch his streams and the Targum Neofiti is a Jewish source which shows that God has a divine son just look at Genesis .Also I brought verses where the Jews believed in a divine son which you haven’t responded so far
@@Yuji_Itadori_157 Why are you lying here? He did use it for the trinity. The fact you mentioned "compound unity" shows this. And that would mean something made up of parts, i.e. a car, and fall into the heresy of partialism. There are literally videos of him doing this. I suggest you actually watch the video, made by Jake, I referred to earlier that shows him doing this and breaks down each analogy he uses. In fact it even shows he argues this when confronted by someone making the claim that it falls into heresy. If you aren't going to watch the video, don't call others who have literally seen Sam doing so lying. The fact you haven't seen it isn't my fault.
Avery fails at defending the Trinity. Watch his debate with Beyond Doubt Theology. He runs to the Qur'an and fails to defend the Trinity. Again, stop lying and actually watch the video of his debate. I'm sick and tired of liars like you who make claims but don't actually watch anything I'm referring to.
And all I see is your reference to Matthew, which won't really have anything to do with my comments about the Jews. If you made other comments, I don't see them.
You can try and defend Sam and Avery all you like, but I've literally seen videos of them doing exactly what I've said. Again, not my fault you've not seen them. Not my fault you don't understand that
@@WelcomeToTheRezvolution Okay I watch the clip and he said not for the Trinity or something similar so stop lying and I didn’t watch the debate but I watched other debates from Logic and he defended it and the verse about Matthew has to do something with the Jews. This is my last comment because we can’t agree so bye and God bless
“Because Hebrew lacks a word for “daddy,” the regular Aramaic word for “father,” abba, was borrowed into Modern Hebrew with the nuance of “daddy.” This is, of course, a late construct and cannot be used as evidence that abba was used for “daddy” in the Hebrew or Aramaic of the New Testament period.” (Paul Y. Hoskisson, 2005)
in Torah God calls Israel His Son, that's why Israel too strong
@@jasonsingh8950 what a cringe brain damaged dude
@@jasonsingh8950Be more humble bc you sound very arrogant. The Torah and New Testament of today has been corrupted due to Satan influencing lying scribes. This is why today’s so-called Israel is doing evil on a mass scale.
“’How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? (Jeremiah 8:8)
@@jasonsingh8950 With all due respect, today’s Bible is NOT a preserved/authoritative source
Numerical errors:
*****How old was Ahaziah when he BECAME king, 22 or 42 years old?
“Ahaziah was twenty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri, king of Israel.” (2 Kings 8:26)
“Ahaziah was forty-two years old when he became king, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri.” (2 Chronicles 22:2)
Note: in both verses, Ahaziah only reigned for one year and his mother’s name was Athaliah the granddaughter of Omri.
*****How old was Joehoiachin when he BEGAN to reign, 8 or 18 years old?
“Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.” (2 Kings 24:8)
“Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD. (2 Chronicles 36:9)
Clear contradictions:
*****Who was against Israel and influenced David, either God or Satan (God and Satan CAN’T be synonymous)?
“And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.” (2 Samuel 24:1)
“Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.” (1 Chronicles 21:1)
*****Who was the father of Joseph, either Jacob or Heli?
“And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.” (Matthew 1:16)
“And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,” (Luke 3:23)
*****On the road to Damascus Paul saw a light and heard a voice. Did the people with Paul, hear a voice too, Yes or No?
“And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.” (Acts 9:7)
“And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.” (Acts 22:9)
*****How did Judas die (hang himself or fall headlong in a field); and what did Judas do with the money (throw it away or buy a field)?
“After he threw the money into the temple he went away and hanged himself (Matthew 27:5)
“After he bought the field with the price of his evil deed he fell headlong and burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out (Acts 1:18)
Note: Headlong means falling head-first, NOT falling feet-first
@@jasonsingh8950 Sincere and humble invitation to read The Qur’an, the preserved and last testament of The Almighty!
From the Islamic view, we believe in the Injeel (Gospel given directly to Jesus, Peace be upon him) and the Torah (Scripture given directly to Moses, Peace be upon him). Today, as you know, are texts that came hundreds of years later written by anonymous authors, which has some remnants of God’s word/message, but they are watered down and changed with numerous errors/contradictions, which lacks authenticity/preservation.
Yet The Qur’an has been memorialized by millions of people from cover-to-cover and it is preserved by God since its inception with zero contradictions/errors. Even the Birmingham manuscript of The Qur’an is dated to the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him).
“Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah (God), they would have found within it much contradiction.” (The Qur’an 4:82)
May God [Allah in Arabic and AaLaH in Aramaic (the language of Jesus Peace be upon him)] Guide you to fully read, understand, accept, and apply the message of the preserved and Last Testament of God, The Qur’an, and Guide you to Islam (Peace through submission to the Will of Allah/AaLaH (The One True God). Ameen (Amen). In Sha Allah (God Willing)! Best. Peace.
So in Trinity, Jesus don't have the father's authority.. What kind of God don't have authority?
Muslims are scared to post the full debate😂
You guys are the one who are scared 💀
Oh shiver me timbers
Acura you 😢 worship man why would we be scared of you your Bible changes every hour
@@pacinst6019it’s on God logics channel the full debate
Shit the hell up this is something which christian is doing
I can't see nologic
Please watch the full episode and comment
Damn the Abdul’s are really cringe here 😂😂😂😂
You should’ve asked him why we don’t see the father worshiping anybody?? Why we don’t see the Holy Ghost worshiping anybody??
And we don't see jesus worshiping anybody, cause at least in Christianity prayer doesn't mean only worship, it means also the communication with god soo jesus is communicating with god, and i don't see any problem with that.
@@Saba-tt7xf This is an interesting answer, but when have you ever seen someone use "I pray to someone" as a form of communication in the bible between humans, and not in the context of Humans and Jesus praying to the Father. You literally came up with your interpretation without even thinking through what you just said 🤦🏻
We Muslims also believe that talking and communication with God is a form of worship. We literally pray 5 times a day to communicate with God.
pray" primarily refers to religious or spiritual communication with a higher power, not with humans.
Ooops!! Hebrews 1:8😊
They again had a debate? Really? Full debate?
Until Uthman made a fool of himself and suddenly the phone died.
@an_nie_dyc1386 keep dreaming
@@an_nie_dyc1386 they were outisde buddy. It was an obv connection lost kiddo. Why would uthman leave on purpose if he cooked godlogic the entire debate buddy.
@@HMLz6 he didn’t. Andy he backed out on the exact moment after his lie got exposed on the screen for everybody to see. Is „abba“ greek?
Sheikh uthman embarrassed himself and Allah
1 Corinthians 9:20 is enough to prove jesus is not a Muslim.
We want full debate
Desperate to say logic got cooked dude jumped to jesus saying the father is greater them him 😐
Jesus Christ is the only way. YHWH or no way
God has a son but no daughter
Allah has Daughters
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Al-Lat /Mannat & Uzza 😅😅😅😅
Dubs for Logic
This Abdul cut off the internet connection and ran away 😂😂😂
Your God is a lamb Baaaaa😂
@@user-ic5zw9yy8r Doesn't the Christian belief describe him also a a lion? At least he knew not to eat poisoned lamb . . .
@@user-ic5zw9yy8ryou worship a pagan god and a sinner prophet 😂😂😂
@HeLpLOstGOdAny1 Prophet Muhammad ( saws) was only a prophet and human being...
in your bible, Jesus is called lamb, so according to your bible your God became flesh a animal 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your god is a sacrificed lamb 🐑, 😂
I just see Uthman not answer the question posed and get cooked.
what question? 😂 father = god?. or father of jesus only god? which one
Imagine lying to yourself and being proud of it. What then is the Lord's prayer? When Jesus said Our Father who hath in Heaven? Was he joking or was he lying. In Islam Allah has no children meaning Allah CANNOT BE truly loving. In Christianity, we Christians know we are the children of God, Sons of God and co-heirs with Christ. Infact, we are one wirh Jesus Christ same way He is One with God The Father
U guys are "CHILDREN OF GOD"??? 😂 U should go play in heaven, not in dunya bro 😂
@Muhammed-islam22 Tell me, what greater love is there on earth than the love parents have for their children. For God to be truly All Loving, then His Love must surpass the love parents have for their children. But how can one have a greater love than this if He has no children.
@@eikmaladam6145 Whatever the Bible says I am, that is who I am. You are free to reject the belief that all who come to Christ, become sons and children of God through Him, it's alright. But the truth remains truth forever!
@@GenZInquisitor so 1+1+1=1 is truth?? That's a basic problem that u still can't solve....
God is One and eternal - 1
God's Word is uncreated and eternal and a part of God because it came from Him - 2
The Spirit of God Which is uncreated and eternal came from God - 3
* You are identified by your words because your word is you. That's why your friends and family immediately they hear your voice recognize its you. Same way with God, The word of an Eternal God is Him. His word Identify Him and God being Eternal means His word, which identify Him is also Eternal. In this case, The word of God personified as The Lord Jesus Christ Here. Now, The Spirit of God which also came from an eternal God must be eternal as He is. Think of this as the DNA of God or life force of an uncreated God. How can God breath life(spirit) into a lifeless body of the first man Adam if God isn't life. Even after all this, this is why man never ceases to exist after death, because within our spirit and soul is a substance(DNA/spirit/life force) of the uncreated God in us that makes us eternal as He is.
So Yes;
God The Father
God The Son (The word of God)
God The Spirit
are uncreated and all 3 are One.
Request to all my Muslim bdithers, let’s seek the truth. Ask Jesus, if he is god make himself reveal to you. I strongly believe you will feel his presence. Do it with an honest heart, it will change your life I promise you. I hope this will save atleast one of my Muslim brothers. God bless you all
I've spoken to Allah and he has responded in seconds. More than once. Why would I pray to Allah's creation? Allah is more than sufficient.
Even in your own scripture Jesus says the Father is the ONLY true God in John 17:3. Jesus is the son and the son is not the father. God also gave you a mind to reason. Use it.
😂😂
@@sub7se7en What responses were those, what evidence do you have? Is it anything that can be shown to have supporting forensic evidence that can be verified or just more the same as is shown under islame of centuries and centuries of over the top claims and surreal dream like fables that refute all known forensic reality.
Surely the claims should align with reality perfectly, surely the claims of islame should be so beyond all shadow of doubt every major scientist and all the world's top critical thinkers would have long ago converted.
Why did 2 high ranking muslims die after cursing Israel recently? As advised in the Torah never to do. . .. are the re any examples of the opposite? -
@@sub7se7en What responses were those, what evidence do you have? Is it anything that can be shown to have supporting forensic evidence that can be verified or just more the same as is shown under islame of centuries and centuries of over the top claims and surreal dream like fables that refute all known forensic reality.
Surely the claims should align with reality perfectly, surely the claims of islame should be so beyond all shadow of doubt every major scientist and all the world's top critical thinkers would have long ago converted.
Why did 2 high ranking muslims die after cursing Israel recently? As advised in the Torah never to do. . .. are the re any examples of the opposite?
Why would I pray and talk to a prophet,when I can talk to the creator.Thats exactly the reason why Christian’s are Christian’s,they do what their emotions tell them,do what is “logical” ask the creator.May Allah(swt) guide us
DogLogic 😂
Dumblogic
Very normal for a Uthman supporter a well known liar and disliked even by other Sheiks and Imams to distort reality to suit their benefit 😂😂
😂😂😂😂 someone just lost his argument about calling god father and now crying
@@radijaye7435 Uthman hasn't won a debate without lying yet he even lost this one 😂😂
@@Esho_Israel looool just tell me how he lost this one
@@radijaye7435 my brother not only should you watch the full video but he has to fabricate the meaning of “Father” having no place in the context of Aramaic which is completely untrue as the literal word used by Jews is just straight “Our Father” 😂😂. Uthman has to straight lie to get anywhere in life.
@@Esho_Israel looool the father used by them doesn't mean literal father which is a fact and that's what he is saying and he gave an example where the word father didn't mean the literal meaning .and he literally said he has no problem if they ised father as an endearment word .so try other thing
How was he cooked bruh you muslims trynna make your own happiness
It is not us who use term "FATHER" as God....
Over cooked in and out
Hehe😂 full video
Human god what an oxymoron
Limited God what an oxymoron
Mologic os a idiot
Qur'an:There are many Female Allaha in Jannah, Allah will date one of them.
Give me the verses
Jesus is Lord Alleluia
I presume that you are an evangelical christian and you believe in the doctrine of the trinity and vicarious atonement but not doing good works then you also believe as long as a man who rapes and murders your daughter and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rapes and murders your sister and then repents and later on sin the same sin or a man rape and murders your mother and then repents and later on sin the same sin or rapes and murders your wife and then repents and later on sin the same sin and evangelical christian still believes in the doctrine of the trinity and also believes that Jesus Christ died on the cross for his sins that he will be forgiven and will go to heaven and despite continuing to rape and murder innocent people but will still go to heaven as he still believe in the doctrine of the trinity and also as long as he still believes that Jesus died on the cross because you believe that this man is your evangelical christian brethren who you will embrace him but you also believe that good works are just like dirty rags according to your apostle Paul as your apostle Paul also said that faith alone believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins they you are forgiven and will go to heaven is your only salvation.
According to christian evangelical theology, good works are the consequence of salvation and not its justification. They are the sign of a sincere and grateful faith. They include actions for the Great Commission, that is, Christian evangelism, service in the Church and charity. So Good works is a consequence but not a necessity for christian evangelical salvation. That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. ~Romans 10:9-10 You cannot be saved by your good works, because no matter how hard you try, your “good” is not good enough for the perfectly holy and completely righteous God who alone grants salvation. Nor can you be saved by your moral perfection-no matter how moral or how perfect you are. As the Old Testament prophet Isaiah points out, your righteousness is about as good as a “snot rag”. (Isaiah 64:6 ). I have actually cleaned that up a bit, because the Hebrew phrase for filthy rags, ukabeged ehdim, literally means, “like as rags of menstruation.”
Sorry if that disgusts you, but it’s Scripture-so blame Isaiah. The point is, both our acts of righteousness, and the quality of righteousness that we hope they produce, are disgusting to God. So if you are disgusted by Isaiah’s language, think of how God, who inspired Isaiah to choose those coarse words, is repulsed by our efforts to get him to save us. So what hope, then, is there for our salvation? Well, frankly, no hope resides within us. None whatsoever. Ephesians 2:1 says “As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins.” That’s how hopeless we are apart from God’s work to save us. You see, all a dead person can do is lay there and be dead, let alone try to be righteous before God.
Who wrote the micky mouse quran?when it was written?
If They disagree with everything jesus said basically then why ?? DO THEY ALWAYS SAY JESUS WAS A MUSLIM 😂😂 Muslims are full of nonsense at this point
@@JonasHaile-bl5br when did we ever disagreed with what prophet Jesus(AS) said?
Full video because sheikh uthman embarrassed himself and Allah
Is Allah a father in any sense
Sheikh uthman - hhmm the bible is corrupted
Gdl- is Allah a father in any sense
Sheikh uthman - oh trinity is 😅😅😅😅
They never post the full debate .. 😂😂😂😂😂.. I have watched the full video Avery posted .. Avery cooked Uthman and roasted him as well 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 WHAT UTHMAN DON'T UNDERSTAND IS BEFORE JESUS BECAME FLESH AND BLOOD IN MARY WOMB HE WAS SPIRIT , ( GOD ) 😂 WHEN HE WAS WALKING AMONG MENS ON THIS EARTH PREACHING THE WORD ABOUT HIS FATHER ( HIMSELF ) .. HE BECAME LIKE US ON THIS EARTH HE LOWER HIMSELF THEN THE ANGELES , JUST LIKE US SO BY SHOWING HIS DISCIPLES ON THIS EARTH HE TELL THEM THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD PRAY , BY SAYING ... ( OURER FATHER ) 😅 IN OTHER WORDS THINK WHO WAS JESUS BEFORE HE BECAME FLESH AND BLOOD AND USED THE NAME OF HIS FATHER .. JESUS. 😂
Show me where in the bible it says that.