The video came from a dutch rider apparantly and was using a whip to enourage better lift in piaffe. It remains to be seen if it was light enouragement or whipping. There are dozens of videos with whips encouraging horses in piaffe. This info came from the Daily Mail who are very unreliable in stating the thruth.
@@jonjonwp the lawyer says it was cantering and not lifting its legs, he also said it was 2022 , and that the complainant didn’t want CDJ to win a medal, we’ll have to wait for the investigation.
This is a sad day for the sport of dressage, whatever the outcome of this turns out to be. I enjoyed reading your vlog cited in the description and understand things a bit better now, so thank you for that. I’m so glad that you beat the 50/50 odds which is the best revenge in itself!
@@harveywetdog And are you sure of who lodged the complaint? Could it have been someone else interferring or thinking they were doing that person a favour?
Dear HarveyWetDog I’m shocked to learn of this and that you too have had reservations concerning CD. Training basic to advance movements in-hand classically is and has always been my passion. The risk of destroying trust and confidence in one’s horse is totally avoidable. One doesn’t ask the bricklayer to be a ballet dancer. And where knowledge ends brutality begins. Training horses takes time and patience and then more time and more patience. We are all able to learn more from our horses and others. I’m so sad to learn of this and trust lessons will be learned. Thank you for sharing ❤️
There is an article in The Telegraph. Dujardin is hitting the legs of a horse several times with her wip from the ground. This is Not that "wrong decision" but a horse abuse training method. Must be more than touching a horse...
I’m shocked. Who has suddenly produced this video i wonder. Kept it to produce at a time to harm the english team. I find it difficult to believe she would do deliberate harm. I hope the FEI sort this out.
Equestrian sport has been in the Olympics since 680BC so is part of the Olympic ideal. But the ideal also includes respect for the environment which is why ethical training can be the only way forward.
@@PMMac-l2n whips and their use are all a part of the world of dressage training and riding. There must have been something extreme about this event which makes me think it was a one off.
This is spooky! I seem to recall /remember this incident from four years ago, and my recolllection is that I saw a video at that time. When I heard on the news CD was stepping back from the Paris Olympics it rang bells with me.... Anyway, I don't believe that the 'incident' was a one off. Although it may have been the only occasion this type of behaviour was video'ed. But we can all be guilty of taking out our anger and frustration on innocent individuals. Its not an excuse though. She ought to have been banned from competing on teh bais sof what happened four years ago. Unless I'm mistaken, I have seen riders take out their annoyance of not completing a 'clear' round on their mounts before, too. Nuff said!
@maelughran6981 yes, sadly that is very true. My husband and I were horrified to see Ellen Whitaker at Bramham one year.. she missed at a couple of fences and her horse didn't help her out. She practically pierced thenpoor thing between it's ribs with what can onky be described as a 'pony club kick' with her feet perpendicular to the horse's sides... it's reaction revealed that she must have really hurt it. You can use your imagination to think about what goes on behind closed doors.. I used to love show jumping but there are some truly sickening practices go on. I won't name names but there were household Olympian names at it.. jumping horses over poles with carpet rread nailed on, after the horses had had their legs brushed with blister solution. Boots with pins on the inside etc etc. I witnessed this first hand. These people were ON THE COMMITTEE of the BSJA. It is toxic.
I had to come back HarveyWetDog having just seen the video of CD and post my anger regarding the abusive behaviour of CD. This was not an “error of judgment” it was abuse pure and simple. CD was laughing whilst administering the lunge whip repeatedly to the mounted horse hind legs. The crack of the lunge whip can very clearly be heard and CD performance can be clearly seen. It has brought tears to my eyes and a dreadful feeling of sickness inside me. I expect that those who love and care for horses will feel as I do any many others besides. This is a terrible day for BD and I trust that the severity of sanctions brought against Ms CD will send a clear message to one and all that this abuse will not be tolerated or forgotten. Thank you HarveyWetDog xx
@@Romovictorio I simply remember the hunting debate. While I was never a fan of fox hunting I knew I had to support Liberty and Livelihood because ultimately simply riding a horse would be banned. These debates always polarise opinion and while I always feared this day would come don’t feel ready to give up on equestrian sport in general just yet.
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Wonder why this wasn’t reported 4 years ago, when it took place? Wait until the eve of the Olympics? 🤔.
Because someone didn't want her in the Olympics, probably
@@Clara-eh8gythe lawyer said exactly that, if it’s been reported correctly.
I don't care about that. Abuse is abuse.
The BBC is also facing very similar allegations regarding the treatment of celebrities on Strictly. What is the world coming to?
The video came from a dutch rider apparantly and was using a whip to enourage better lift in piaffe. It remains to be seen if it was light enouragement or whipping. There are dozens of videos with whips encouraging horses in piaffe. This info came from the Daily Mail who are very unreliable in stating the thruth.
And the dutch have a child rapist representing their volleyball team.
@@jonjonwp the lawyer says it was cantering and not lifting its legs, he also said it was 2022 , and that the complainant didn’t want CDJ to win a medal, we’ll have to wait for the investigation.
@lizroberts1569 well we’ve all seen the video now and can make our own judgement. What we need now is context.
@@harveywetdog Where ?
@@jonjonwp it was on Good Morning Britain in the U.K. this morning and available from ITVX
This is a sad day for the sport of dressage, whatever the outcome of this turns out to be. I enjoyed reading your vlog cited in the description and understand things a bit better now, so thank you for that. I’m so glad that you beat the 50/50 odds which is the best revenge in itself!
Yes it was a strange day, but what was really sad was that we had a really nice chat before the complaint was made.
@@harveywetdog And are you sure of who lodged the complaint? Could it have been someone else interferring or thinking they were doing that person a favour?
There’s only so much I can say on a public forum
Well, she did bully my sister for years and make her life a misery so, .. whatever comes out I'm not sure I'll be that surprised..
@@1827Beethoven Karma gets everyone if you wait long enough.
@@1827Beethoven BEF have procedures for reporting and dealing with bullying; were these followed?
@1827Beethoven what happened?
@@harveywetdog It wasn't anything relating to horses or the industry.
@1827Beethoven she seems a bully if her treatment of horses is anything to go by.
Dear HarveyWetDog I’m shocked to learn of this and that you too have had reservations concerning CD. Training basic to advance movements in-hand classically is and has always been my passion. The risk of destroying trust and confidence in one’s horse is totally avoidable. One doesn’t ask the bricklayer to be a ballet dancer. And where knowledge ends brutality begins. Training horses takes time and patience and then more time and more patience. We are all able to learn more from our horses and others. I’m so sad to learn of this and trust lessons will be learned. Thank you for sharing ❤️
There is an article in The Telegraph. Dujardin is hitting the legs of a horse several times with her wip from the ground. This is Not that "wrong decision" but a horse abuse training method. Must be more than touching a horse...
I’m shocked. Who has suddenly produced this video i wonder. Kept it to produce at a time to harm the english team. I find it difficult to believe she would do deliberate harm. I hope the FEI sort this out.
@Dr75532 I presume you are vegan. If not you pay for horrific animal abuse every day.
FEI has suspended her for 6 months.
Please remove this unfair sport out of Olympics. Olympics is about human not horse competition.
Equestrian sport has been in the Olympics since 680BC so is part of the Olympic ideal. But the ideal also includes respect for the environment which is why ethical training can be the only way forward.
I was shocked and saddened by this video that seems to have appeared conveniently just before the Olympics. why not produced this when it happene6
Agreed
I wonder if this was the one and only time she did this, was it always part of her training regime and that it just happened to be filmed this time.
@@PMMac-l2n whips and their use are all a part of the world of dressage training and riding. There must have been something extreme about this event which makes me think it was a one off.
@@harveywetdog Really? Have you seen the footage?
Yes thank you
@@harveywetdog You're obviously as sadistic as she is then!
This is spooky! I seem to recall /remember this incident from four years ago, and my recolllection is that I saw a video at that time.
When I heard on the news CD was stepping back from the Paris Olympics it rang bells with me....
Anyway, I don't believe that the 'incident' was a one off. Although it may have been the only occasion this type of behaviour was video'ed.
But we can all be guilty of taking out our anger and frustration on innocent individuals.
Its not an excuse though. She ought to have been banned from competing on teh bais sof what happened four years ago.
Unless I'm mistaken, I have seen riders take out their annoyance of not completing a 'clear' round on their mounts before, too. Nuff said!
@maelughran6981 yes, sadly that is very true. My husband and I were horrified to see Ellen Whitaker at Bramham one year.. she missed at a couple of fences and her horse didn't help her out. She practically pierced thenpoor thing between it's ribs with what can onky be described as a 'pony club kick' with her feet perpendicular to the horse's sides... it's reaction revealed that she must have really hurt it. You can use your imagination to think about what goes on behind closed doors.. I used to love show jumping but there are some truly sickening practices go on. I won't name names but there were household Olympian names at it.. jumping horses over poles with carpet rread nailed on, after the horses had had their legs brushed with blister solution. Boots with pins on the inside etc etc. I witnessed this first hand. These people were ON THE COMMITTEE of the BSJA. It is toxic.
I had to come back HarveyWetDog having just seen the video of CD and post my anger regarding the abusive behaviour of CD. This was not an “error of judgment” it was abuse pure and simple. CD was laughing whilst administering the lunge whip repeatedly to the mounted horse hind legs. The crack of the lunge whip can very clearly be heard and CD performance can be clearly seen. It has brought tears to my eyes and a dreadful feeling of sickness inside me. I expect that those who love and care for horses will feel as I do any many others besides. This is a terrible day for BD and I trust that the severity of sanctions brought against Ms CD will send a clear message to one and all that this abuse will not be tolerated or forgotten. Thank you HarveyWetDog xx
I think we need a bit more context.
@@harveywetdog Your kind heartedness shows deep empathy and respect xx
@@Romovictorio I simply remember the hunting debate. While I was never a fan of fox hunting I knew I had to support Liberty and Livelihood because ultimately simply riding a horse would be banned. These debates always polarise opinion and while I always feared this day would come don’t feel ready to give up on equestrian sport in general just yet.
@@harveywetdog I understand ❤️