Jim Cornette on Chris Jericho vs. Kenny Omega & The State Of Modern Indie Wrestling

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  • @toxsun
    @toxsun 2 года назад +36

    It's funny to think, that all these comments saying Jim is wrong about things, are now praising him for being right this whole time. 🤣 isn't that ironic?

    • @5SK.RoyaltyTV
      @5SK.RoyaltyTV 7 месяцев назад +5

      Jim is like the God Father of Pro wrestling.

  • @stevelockwood7298
    @stevelockwood7298 5 лет назад +55

    never get tired of his Omega rants

  • @InfiniCalendar
    @InfiniCalendar Год назад +12

    Then: “I love Chris Jericho!”
    Now: “Fuck Chris Jericho!”

  • @mcomiskey7
    @mcomiskey7 Год назад +13

    Jericho is the AEW version of WCW Nash.

  • @namelessjedi2242
    @namelessjedi2242 8 месяцев назад +8

    Brian seemed surprised Jim said Punk would be more over than Danielson, but Corny was right.

  • @MrReganomics1
    @MrReganomics1 3 года назад +31

    Cornette truly was rooting for them to be successful. Even though he hated the style of wrestling. He wanted them to sell out. Even gave advice on how to sell out. Advice they followed almost to the letter

  • @TuMalditaMadre
    @TuMalditaMadre 6 лет назад +112

    Don't tell Cornette that Kota Ibushi also fought the blow up doll.

    • @Jonyp
      @Jonyp 6 лет назад +12

      He actually said that he has no idea who Kota Ibushi is but if he did wrestle a blow up doll then fuck him too.

    • @Johnsor21
      @Johnsor21 6 лет назад +1

      Omega and Ibushi both wrestled a blowup doll

    • @jcp1977
      @jcp1977 6 лет назад +4

      Kota Ibushi is a really good worker in that ring as far as I'm concerned he could have a 6 star match with Kenny Omega anytime if you don't like it Jim Cornette well then TO HELL WITH YOU

    • @lockmetalgearrr5123
      @lockmetalgearrr5123 6 лет назад +2

      Nobody tell Cornette that one of Ibushi's first big match was for a title called the GAY World Anal Championship

    • @rickmoranis5242
      @rickmoranis5242 6 лет назад +6

      MongolianCh0p why should you care what someone else says or thinks, if you like a wrestler don't change your opinion just because of a guy like Cornette. take to mind it's part of his gimmick, he knows it'll bring omega fans to his show to gear what he will say next

  • @AstonishinglyVon
    @AstonishinglyVon 8 месяцев назад +10

    It’s crazy. AEW is basically Kenny Omega & the Young Bucks pet project to stick it to Jim Cornette. It’s FASCINATING listening to this 5 years later. Jim basically foretold & “PROPHECIZED” AEW!

    • @rj5822
      @rj5822 6 месяцев назад +3

      I’ve been on a rabbit hole listening to early AEW episodes, and it’s crazy how he kept referring to Cody as the “Smart One.” And advice he distance himself from them…he distanced himself alright. Also the fact that this episode is while Danielson was still sidelined, and Cornette still predicted Punk being a larger draw than Danielson. And not even Copeland is bringing in the viewers Punk was drawing on AEW television.

    • @action_bastard
      @action_bastard 4 месяца назад

      👀👀👀

    • @89jstubbs
      @89jstubbs 2 месяца назад

      @@rj5822crazy man

  • @SSJ2Phenom
    @SSJ2Phenom 2 года назад +16

    Wow, how things have changed. He was putting Jericho over hard in this video.
    Lol, listen to him now🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

    • @mcomiskey7
      @mcomiskey7 Год назад +1

      Jericho was his boy, maybe one of the greatest young talents Jim ever gave a break too. Now he's an ass hat.

    • @namelessjedi2242
      @namelessjedi2242 8 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, but it becomes obvious it’s Jericho that has changed. Everything Corny is praising him for here, Chris has reversed on.

  • @ericroman2403
    @ericroman2403 2 года назад +4

    I just watched a jon Moxley vs nik Gage match and it made Juggalo Championship wrestling look like Steamboat vs savage at Wrestlemania

  • @Dudeamis17
    @Dudeamis17 6 лет назад +46

    It's so interesting how a guy who is so conservative about wrestling is such a bold liberal politically.

    • @JudgeMazza
      @JudgeMazza 4 года назад +1

      Is that what a republican is now then - just someone who says shit that passed muster 20 years ago but doesn't today? Nothing to do with social economics, gun control foreign policy etc?

    • @senseisama3974
      @senseisama3974 4 года назад +7

      @John Banks Corny isn't retarded. So, no. He isn't a republican.

    • @shahsadsaadu5817
      @shahsadsaadu5817 3 года назад +1

      You can not like the flippy shit and Still be a liberal.joseph montecillo

    • @Gravydog316
      @Gravydog316 3 года назад +1

      not really.
      he's right about both.
      it's about having common sense & doing what's decent & right,
      no matter what it is.

    • @Dudeamis17
      @Dudeamis17 3 года назад

      @@Gravydog316 nah wrestling should be fun, you want to watch a real fight watch MMA.

  • @renafan3333
    @renafan3333 3 года назад +5

    Wow Lightyears difference between what Jim said about Jericho then and what he says about him now lol

  • @ylegacy7727
    @ylegacy7727 2 года назад +2

    2022 & I’m here !

  • @wj00312
    @wj00312 6 лет назад +50

    I typically agree with Cornette about a lot of things with wrestling. However, he's completely off about NJPW. For all of his gripes, he's overlooked the fact NJPW is getting back to treating wrestling as a sport, not "sports entertainment". It's not always perfect, but they've been on fire with their in ring product and presentation. Cornette obviously hasn't paid attention to any of the current shows or guys on the roster.

    • @arlosteiner8382
      @arlosteiner8382 6 лет назад +11

      Mr. Wombatt the dissonance with Cornette is he hates in his word silly shit but he comes from a time of ridiculously goofy and lame names but because he was young then he can't look at anything objectively anymore.

    • @robertridley1029
      @robertridley1029 6 лет назад +2

      Mr. Wombatt I think cornette has admitted that he doesn't watch modern wrestling, and in most of his videos, like this one, he explains why. It sounds like the only matches he watches are ones that people tell him about, but it doesn't appear that he on his own picks a wrestling show to watch.

    • @andrewisjesus
      @andrewisjesus 5 лет назад +3

      Jim doesnt properly remember the past of wrestling. There has always been goofy stoopid shit in wrestling, and he has even been a part of it. Remember everytime Cornette would end up with cakes and pies in his face? In goofy segments that are obviously set up for him to get it in his face.
      Wrestling always had dumb segments that exposed the business. ALWAYS. Everyone, outside of idiots, has always known wrestling is fake. Smart people have always enjoyed its presentation when done properly.
      Like it or not, adults who enjoy wrestling usually know its a work, but get caught up in the angles. Its just like soap operas. They're fake and ridiculous, but they have their dedicated fans who watch loyally.

  • @Jonyp
    @Jonyp 6 лет назад +35

    Why do people care so much what Cornette thinks of Omega? He dislikes him because in his mind, Omega has disrespected the business and shit on everything that Corney and his peers worked so hard to take serious over the years. He has a legitimate reasons to hate him but I don't understand why others get so upset by this. Just because Cornette dislikes him doesn't mean you have to. Lets all just enjoy what we do and dislike what we want.

    • @mrbadguysan
      @mrbadguysan 6 лет назад +12

      They're upset that Corny might be right, and Omega's popularity, more than Omega's behavior, reflects poorly on the industry.
      Omega never had to wrestle little girls, go skipping during matches, or dress up like a Disney princess; but that stupid shit is what modern wrestling fans like.

    • @vsgamingandatheism5017
      @vsgamingandatheism5017 5 лет назад

      J P because this old man forgot Vince made a mockery when it became sports entertainment its magic is long gone

    • @VillaFanFTW
      @VillaFanFTW 4 года назад +4

      @@vsgamingandatheism5017 he didn't forget it. He said he blames McMahon plenty of times for this. Not as much as the rest of them but he blames him too.

    • @vsgamingandatheism5017
      @vsgamingandatheism5017 4 года назад

      VillaFanFTW they are all at fault

    • @vsgamingandatheism5017
      @vsgamingandatheism5017 4 года назад

      Adolf Hitler is that what I fucking said prick of did I mention they are both at fault shit wrestling fans are at fault lol your an edgelord I’m just a guy who is stating a fact you can’t stop them from destroying wrestling

  • @kingjamesii5048
    @kingjamesii5048 3 года назад +4

    And three years later chris looks like he never left the Thanksgiving table doing a bunch of bullshit on AEW

  • @VinnieGer
    @VinnieGer 3 года назад +3

    33:46 oh no, oh no I think he accidentally predicted the future again.

  • @thebigdogindustries6965
    @thebigdogindustries6965 6 лет назад +14

    I was shocked when I found out Jim was a democrat

    • @ToddCrow10
      @ToddCrow10 5 лет назад +6

      He’s just a very confused human lol

    • @zombietoycollector4597
      @zombietoycollector4597 4 года назад

      Least he's a Democrat

    • @chrisiverson5648
      @chrisiverson5648 4 года назад +7

      Politics aren't real, just ppl playing "leader"... Just saying man🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @bassplayer8815
      @bassplayer8815 3 года назад +1

      He hates the Democrats just less than the Republicans

    • @Gravydog316
      @Gravydog316 3 года назад

      well... you always turned your fist into a sammich, so...

  • @Yamah12a
    @Yamah12a 6 лет назад +47

    I am a strong advocate for Jim Cornette, I might even be considered a mark and he is usually on the money with his views both wrestling and outside but this knocking Omega is tired and old now. Its a personal vendetta against him thats it. I wholeheartedly disagree with him here and if you look at some of his booking ideas in SMW it was extremely cheesy and embarrassing. The other thing is that Brian Last likes Omegas style and thinks he is a good wrestler. He has shared his thoughts before.

    • @bradnimbus4836
      @bradnimbus4836 6 лет назад +1

      I bet Corny could rant for an hour how his booking made perfect sense, haha

    • @deluxeedition46
      @deluxeedition46 6 лет назад +5

      I agree but he shouldnt have wrestled a blowup doll, omega is talented seems like a good guy but corny has it his old school mentallity, he always on the money but is alittle over the top/wrong on his personal hate for kenny omega... but joey ryan dick spot move should be banned peroid lol

    • @Amzingred
      @Amzingred 6 лет назад +3

      Kenny Omega is a great athletic wrestler that doesn't know how to work a proper match and just does moves for the sake of moves just because, "i can do it." Despite the fact a lot of wrestlers can do what he does. Their are a lot of athletic gymnastic type wrestlers out there that can do the things he does. The difference between the ones that are great pro wrestlers to Kenny Omega is that the great pro athletic wrestlers know how to work a match. To make it believable, and that oh so important thing that so many indie promotions lack including todays generation for most of the japan wrestlers is hardly any ring psychology being used.
      Because of that, it is simply not my style of wrestling that i enjoy and love watching in regards to matches and wrestlers. To me, Kenny Omega does not stand out because their is really nothing that makes him stand out because he just does moves that so many wrestlers can actually do. And he is incapable in wanting to make a match have ring psychology where you can take it seriously.
      The best example i can give is when Kenny or his opponent nails a high impact maneuver. Yea, its a big time high impact maneuver. A maneuver that should get a rise from the crowd. But why should i care about this move and see it as an important moment in the match when, jesus christ, 98% of the time, right after that high impact maneuver, the guy that took the blow from that move is the person to nail the next offensive maneuver! Which of course throws away that move of being of any importance to the match because it meant nothing because it really didn't mean a thing because the guy he nailed the move on is the guy that is hitting the next offensive maneuver. It...it just irks me to no end when i see that constantly happening with no rhyme or reason. Let alone when that maneuver can easily be seen as a finisher and yet the match is not going to end for another 15 to 20 minutes while the pace of the action is still the same as if the two wresters are fresh as hell.

    • @cretinousjester3475
      @cretinousjester3475 6 лет назад +3

      simon collingwood: That's the thing: A guy with as much potential as Omega shouldn't have wrestled a blowup doll. That's for the Colt Cabanas, the Doinks, and the Joey Ryans of the biz. Omega's too good for that shit. How could any promoter worth a damn push this guy now in front of 14,000 screaming fans in a sold out arena and his opponent plays this over a titantron? Even fans who know it's a work and don't take wrestling seriously will be like "THIS.....is the guy?"
      I do think Jim takes it a little too far sometimes in his barbs but he has a point: Omega killed just about any legitimacy he had in one match. I don't know if it was his idea or not. If it was- Omega's dumber than a box of rocks. If he didn't- he should've told whoever suggested it to piss off.

  • @jasonh.2439
    @jasonh.2439 6 лет назад +41

    Cornette talks extensively about things and people he admits he doesnt watch.

    • @emartinez557
      @emartinez557 6 лет назад

      so does everybody else, what's your point

    • @FreneticZetetic
      @FreneticZetetic 5 лет назад

      As much as I LOVE Cornette, this is sadly a fact.

    • @Alphonzo316
      @Alphonzo316 5 лет назад

      Because it’s a work.

    • @keithmarcell1588
      @keithmarcell1588 5 лет назад

      @@emartinez557 the point is, he has this deep opinion about this stuff he doesnt pay attention to. How? how can you have an opinion on something that you talk about for 2 hours weekly, but you also admit to not even watching it or paying attention to it?
      Cornette been saying the wrestling business was dead for so long and it never would come back but you got indie promotions selling out MSG now, you got AEW going weekly on tv soon, the WWE signing billion dollar deals, and wrestlers having multiple places to work instead of one company being the end all be all. How is that dead?

    • @momosupremacy8349
      @momosupremacy8349 4 года назад +2

      @@keithmarcell1588 i ran over a puppy on accident before and got out of my car to check on it only to find one of its back legs sticking through its neck while making the most horrible sounds i have ever heard. I seen this horrid sight one time... I never need to see a bloody and dying puppy again to know its horrible and dont like it

  • @phillysfinest215
    @phillysfinest215 Год назад +2

    Why won't Jim start his own promotion

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 3 месяца назад +1

      he's retired and makes just as much money without the stress just talking from home

  • @deadaccount7520
    @deadaccount7520 5 лет назад +2

    one oddity about the invisible man and the "dick spot". they are both shown in the cheech and Chong film "still smoking". As the duo discuss the routines they were mistakenly hired to do in Amsterdam. One of the discarded routines saw the two. Playing heel foreigners taking on the invisible man. Who they eventually tied up in a turnbuckle. Where Chong grabs"something" below the belt and stretches it to the opposite turnbuckle. Then heads to the next one. Everything goes well till he forgets about it and clotheslines himself. "It" now flies around the ring uncontrollably knocking everyone out in the process. The point of this long comment. It was REJECTED BY CHEECH AND CHONGS. The guys who gave us "Dave's not here". Rejected the angle.

  • @touxiong8391
    @touxiong8391 6 лет назад +30

    Dont let him fool you. Cornette is the biggest omega mark of all.

    • @Lagacy2
      @Lagacy2 6 лет назад +3

      Don't*

    • @Popeoverhuge
      @Popeoverhuge 6 лет назад

      troll*

    • @touxiong8391
      @touxiong8391 6 лет назад

      I agree, i believe its either a work on his half or theyre both in on it to help each other.

  • @drewgamezzz8482
    @drewgamezzz8482 2 года назад +4

    Idc what Jim has to say about me me other conservatives/republicans, though I’m not your typical conservative seeing invited for Obama twice and only voted trump the first time cause Hilary is insufferable and this time cause I figured Joe be dead by now and I didn’t trust Kamala Harris tbh.
    But no matter what he ever says about us, I will always live Corny and am one of those people who doesn’t let my political views run my life or really have anything to do with ky personality, and also I consider myself to be very open minded to anything and especially change, but also I just live the wrestling business and really the wrestling that Jim is always describing and the business he misses and u Miss so much and wish we had back and wish that there was some way we could all get our wrestling business back honestly and get away from purely sports entertainment. Which from what my friend have told me is AEW these days. Which I haven’t watched much wwe in the last 10 years, better yet AWW, but I have watched a bunch of you tube videos, and I’m starting to get into the brand on TV and I have to say I’m impressed with some if it, but at the same time some if it still kinda turns me off, but I did like the feel of it and all mire than some of the WWE shows and product these days.

  • @madmanwebster94
    @madmanwebster94 Год назад +3

    "Chris Jericho isn't going to do anything hokie or stupid in this match and he's going to make it as believable as possible"
    In reality everything he said was wrong and the match itself was slow and garbage.

    • @nielcarpnava
      @nielcarpnava 2 месяца назад

      Aged like fine wine 🤣🤣

  • @insider6098
    @insider6098 6 лет назад +44

    So, Corny has still only seen two matches of Kenny Omega's: Kenny Omega vs. the 9-year old girl and Kenny Omega vs. the blow-up doll and claims to know exactly how good Omega is.........

    • @shawnbaker3245
      @shawnbaker3245 6 лет назад +12

      No he has seen others. Look it up. He has talked about wk 11

    • @elasticater8429
      @elasticater8429 6 лет назад +23

      Omega shot himself in the foot with Cornette when he ducked a ROH booking while Corny worked there. The rest of it is icing on the cake.

    • @truindividual
      @truindividual 6 лет назад +19

      Elasticater and he won't let that go. Its been 10 years. U think he fucked his wife

    • @HyperActive7
      @HyperActive7 6 лет назад +3

      You know he has Obsessive Compulsive Disorder for certain shit stains..

    • @elasticater8429
      @elasticater8429 6 лет назад +4

      That's true but then I can relate to that. If I don't like people, I don't like people. It's a fault, sure, but everybody's different. It would be hypocritical of myself to criticise Corny for that.

  • @mckeallyons5028
    @mckeallyons5028 6 лет назад +31

    I love Jim Cornette and his take on everything I usually agree with except how he feels about Kenny Omega. Kenny is literally one of the best pro wrestlers in the world today

    • @rytheguy99
      @rytheguy99 6 лет назад +5

      McKeal Lyons he only dislikes that Kenny use to do a bunch of stupid wrestling

    • @truindividual
      @truindividual 6 лет назад +3

      The Riddler which was the past but then again, u have one chance to make a good first impression.

    • @SAM-ru4vx
      @SAM-ru4vx 6 лет назад +1

      jim hating on people tends to work.

    • @mrbadguysan
      @mrbadguysan 6 лет назад +7

      That's his point. Omega is the greatest wrestler today, now that wrestling is a niche product that's enjoyed by a tiny fraction of the human populace.
      No one knows who Omega is. Everyone knows who McGregor is.

    • @diggitydave75438
      @diggitydave75438 6 лет назад +1

      Nintendo Juggalo not really. He's actually a very good all around performer.

  • @vspecmaster
    @vspecmaster 6 месяцев назад +1

    Cornette’s been saying the same things for SIX YEARS now and people still think he’s playing up a gimmick (beyond the humorous exaggeration)

  • @Crusader7077
    @Crusader7077 6 лет назад +14

    I echo Jim's concerns with the state of modern wrestling and his related analogy of top broadway actors doing a dramatic reading with the clown spoiling the whole thing.
    In my case, I started watching wrestling in the late 1970s. I grew up watching the tail end of the San Francisco territory, then early 1980s AWA, early 1980s WWF (before Hulk Hogan arrived there), and later Jim Crockett Promotions. At that time, wrestling was presented in weekly television production in the image of sports competition. When WWF went in a different direction in their presentation in the mid 1980s, Jim Crockett Promotions didn't.
    Then in 1989, after Turner already bought JCP the prior year, that product gradually harmed my interest in wrestling overall. I can still remember the Chi Town Rumble 89 PPV. As great as the Flair / Steamboat title match was, Jim's analogy of the broadway actors with the clown comes to mind for me. Rick Steiner and Mike Rotunda were putting on a good match, and Jim Ross was selling them in the play-by-play as two former collegiate athletes (i.e. the broadway analogy). Then Kevin Sullivan comes out to ringside and makes a comment about Steiner's dog, distracting Rick (i.e. the clown moment). Then in the finish, Steiner has a sleeper hold on Rotunda, but he maintains the hold while laying on his back, and Steiner's shoulders are down for a 3 count. So a former top Michigan wrestler, who instinctively would stay off his back, ends up pinning himself. A non-logical finish, and another clown moment that spoiled the broadway show overall. That ruined the entire PPV for me.
    Of course during that year and over the next couple of years under Jim Herd, to carry on the analogy of the ongoing clown moments, it continued on and on (the Ding Dongs, Norman the Lunatic, the Black Scorpion, RoboCop, stupid finishes, etc.). All of that would hurt my overall interest in wrestling.
    In early 1992, I began helping out at a place that trained wrestlers. At that time, it was called the Superstars Pro Wrestling Training Camp owned by Roland Alexander (later to be known as All Pro Wrestling). In those initial years, Roland's role model of how to book and run a promotion was promoter Roy Shire who was in charge of the San Francisco territory in the 60s and 70s. In contrast to what WWF and WCW were doing, he wanted to see wrestling be presented seriously and believably. He was also a stickler for ring psychology and wanted whatever was done in a match to make logical sense and to tell a story. By early 1997, I had stopped helping out at the wrestling school (just before Barry Blaustein brought in his film crew to record footage for the Beyond The Mat movie). By that time, in my opinion, Roland had relaxed his views on the product he wanted to present, and I think much of what happened in the Gym Wars shows reflects this. I think that was also the result of the direction of where the wrestling business was going. I didn't like what it was becoming.
    I don't watch any current wrestling now and haven't over the last 15-20 years. I like watching all kinds of old footage up through the 1980s of promotions from the U.S. and around the world, and I also like hearing Jim Cornette's stories from the old days as well as stories from other wrestlers from back at that time, but that's the extent of it. So coming from this perspective, I echo his concerns with the state of the business today.

    • @NintendoPsycho
      @NintendoPsycho 6 лет назад +1

      You are one of the few fans of REAL wrestling with a clue.

    • @daydaymc5942
      @daydaymc5942 6 лет назад +1

      Facts... That's why the wrestling business was more over in the 80 down

    • @chrisiverson5648
      @chrisiverson5648 4 года назад +2

      You get a thumbs up just for how long this statement is... You have true passion, I was in the area where the Cwf was the big federation, nightmare Danny davis, the wildcat Wendell Cooley, Lord humugus, Dennis condrey, the bullet Bob Armstrong, the southern boys... Good times👍🏾

  • @renstheradicaljans9061
    @renstheradicaljans9061 6 лет назад +4

    Cornette can win a table match without a table and cut a promo with a spaghetti stick while still getting over.

  • @georgejackson4426
    @georgejackson4426 3 года назад +2

    Move over Russo Cornette has a new Archnemisis.

  • @scrappy93
    @scrappy93 3 года назад +3

    Fast forward to to AEW and the Jericho comments didn't age well.

    • @djpaul8705
      @djpaul8705 Год назад +1

      They aged appropriately

  • @hatsunemikufanboy
    @hatsunemikufanboy 3 года назад +1

    3 years is how long it took for corny to change his mind on chris

  • @JackPrice-rx8mo
    @JackPrice-rx8mo 3 месяца назад

    Even back in the original FMW days, there were incredible hard fought matches mixed into the blood & Deathmatches. Not all Japanese wrasslin, company by company, is good or great. Just like the Murican companies.

  • @jjgoldstein7
    @jjgoldstein7 2 года назад +1

    This rant has aged so well. Compare the angle Jericho & Omega did for this match to what The Bucks, Jericho & Omega are doing now left to their own devices w/o any check or balance on their own shit w/AEW & it’s totally unwatchable.
    What’s more, the EVPs of AEW hardly speak to each other any more. Tony Khan is getter by by hot shotting his promotion several times a month to draw a rating. And let’s not even talk about how bad WWE is.
    I have to say, thank god for Peacock, lots of great content from Mid South, WCCW, CWA, old school WCW is on there and it’s about $5/month in my region. Wrestling is dead. But at least it lives on with access to the good old days!

  • @mandimiller7027
    @mandimiller7027 6 лет назад +32

    Post to r/squaredcircle for easy karma

  • @BurnedRetinas
    @BurnedRetinas 6 лет назад +1

    And hey, guys getting work, I'm not against. Doesn't mean it doesn't look stupid. Michael Bay's Transformers movies make money.

  • @momosupremacy8349
    @momosupremacy8349 4 года назад +2

    4:12 jack wipe 😂

  • @timf7413
    @timf7413 6 лет назад +7

    If Cornette's right that you can't have a totally serious promotion at this point (and I believe he is), then it becomes arguable that the best move is to appeal to the small niche audience that does like what's left. A lot of these indie guys know their potential audience is small and what they do is silly, but they're playing to an audience they have as opposed to chasing a hypothetical audience they might never get no matter what they do.

    • @cameron3578
      @cameron3578 4 года назад

      No. You rehab the thing and try to reel people back in, you moron.

    • @djpaul8705
      @djpaul8705 Год назад +1

      Interesting.

  • @brian9670
    @brian9670 6 лет назад +24

    If there was a time machine, and Kenny Omega went back to 1991, and showed up to the Smokey Mountain Wrestling office and said he wanted a try out...and showed what he could do, does anyone believe Cornette would not have signed him on the spot?

    • @mrbadguysan
      @mrbadguysan 6 лет назад +7

      Brian W yeah, but he's not a dude who showed up to Smokey Mountain in 1991, he's a fuckface who wrestled a blowup doll.

    • @mrbadguysan
      @mrbadguysan 6 лет назад +5

      Brian W...and a little girl. Threw a couple of hadoukens...

    • @Tigerdriver93
      @Tigerdriver93 6 лет назад +12

      that doesnt change the fact that hes a good wrestler. thats pure ignorance to me.

    • @mrbadguysan
      @mrbadguysan 6 лет назад +2

      Joe Eduardo Reyes_AFC I can't watch his shit without expecting a run-in by a little girl.

    • @Tujefa1981
      @Tujefa1981 6 лет назад +4

      And the fact that he's talanted doesn't mean he didn't mock pro wrestling by being involved in parody matches either.

  • @veegob5287
    @veegob5287 24 дня назад

    Brian, tell Jim we need a Ballet Club t shirt.

  • @jokerjack2913
    @jokerjack2913 6 лет назад +2

    Today is May 14, 2018. Listening to this made me believe that Corny is clarvoyant. Today, All In sold out in under 30 minutes, set to be in Chicago and CM Punk is set to at least sign autographs and make an appearence at the event. Corny called all of this right after Christmas. I had to re-listen to it.....

    • @rj5822
      @rj5822 6 месяцев назад

      It’s December 23, 2023. When this episode came out Danielson was still sidelined and uncleared to wrestle. Now Danielson wrestles at AEW with a time frame of him retiring as a wrestler, and CM Punk is on his way to main event one of the nights of WrestleMania. And Cody Rhodes. A man who at this time wasn’t allowed legally to use the Rhodes name is also slated to main event one of the two nights of WrestleMania

  • @Tujefa1981
    @Tujefa1981 6 лет назад +6

    I'm all for wrestlers having places to work but let me just put this out as food for thought. The WWE is just a sophisticated version of silly gimmicky Indy wrestling an indie wrestling it's just an outlaw hillbilly lowbrow version of WWE's Hokie nonsense. The only place to see real wrestling that's actually athletic and doesn't do over the top comedy and keeps it reasonable is NXT. If the WWE becomes what NXT is now once Triple H takes over I'll be happy.

  • @baileybrubaker9566
    @baileybrubaker9566 5 лет назад +4

    Anyone here that says “i love Jim, but blah” is 95% the type of person who talks up their moral standards, but every time those standards are challenged they just loosen up that standard to let bullshit through.
    What I’m saying is 95% of the commenters on this video have zero integrity and zero standards; therefore, you should literally stop reading the comment at the word “but”.

  • @namenotfound34
    @namenotfound34 6 лет назад +6

    Cornette's right not his one though. To illustrate go listen to Meltzer's interviews with Jericho and Omega about this one- all Jericho did was plug and sell the match and Kenny, much like the mark he is, started talking about himself and his inspiration on the performance of the art form and blah blah blah. Kenny is a great worker but is an absolute mark.

  • @A_real_Ha_So
    @A_real_Ha_So 5 лет назад

    He's right on the money about hard to see matches in All Japan. Probably the only place you'd see Bobo Brazil and Carlos Colon team with Abby as heels.

  • @bcphil510
    @bcphil510 6 лет назад +1

    I’ve been waiting for this after seeing that Twitter shitstorm the Young Fucks and Dick Ryan created.

  • @TheUnitedRoninNetwoR4ks
    @TheUnitedRoninNetwoR4ks Год назад +1

    Another Twinkle Toes Mc Finger Bang epic rant😅

  • @tommy2chips
    @tommy2chips 5 лет назад +1

    Wrestling should be treated seriously. I take it seriously but some of the fans and even the wrestlers do not understand the history of the business.

  • @GaOutlawVinyl
    @GaOutlawVinyl 5 лет назад

    I would love to know Cornette’s opinion on Southpaw Wrestling.

  • @tmage23
    @tmage23 6 лет назад +41

    I've been a fan of Corny since the early 80's and I have a lot of respect for him but he's got some serious blinders on concerning Omega. Coloring his entire career based on one stupid comedy match he did years ago is just silly. The guy's legitimately one of the best performers working today.

    • @stephenblanding4197
      @stephenblanding4197 6 лет назад +2

      tmage23 that Jericho having a "match with a broomstick" comment kind of rubbed me the wrong way, like Omega isn't capable of holding his own. Jericho wouldn't be having a match/feud with someone just to carry them. I love Corny, but lately a lot of his hate for anyone, other than Russo, seems so irrational

    • @franksullivan7110
      @franksullivan7110 5 лет назад +2

      He is old like me. I mean the blow up doll and 9 yr old was stupid. But I forgot about it. Young Bucks are like watching Hogan in my day and his heyday. And Cena 5 moves of doom. And it's always like whatever show they are on the announcers like are saying superkick party like they are drunck at the end of the night telling the fat girl she is skinny to quick now let's get this over with and fuxk.

    • @the_zen_one
      @the_zen_one 4 года назад

      I understand him a little bit. I mean, Kenny has proved that he is a very good talent. And he could be one of the best if he wanted to... if he truly buckled down. But, he's still going to be known for wrestling a 9 year old girl and a blow up doll. You can be one of the best wrestlers in the world, but if people are still talking about that to this day, there is not much you can do to truly change people's minds...

  • @caseyj8313
    @caseyj8313 3 года назад +3

    Saying Jericho would never do anything Hokie or stupid didn't age well

  • @timlangenderfer7746
    @timlangenderfer7746 6 лет назад +3

    15:42 how does corney feel about hawk jumping up after taking a piledriver, or hogans gimmick...

    • @nerodeadweightclaudius5422
      @nerodeadweightclaudius5422 4 года назад +1

      He loves it because hes a reminiscing fuck who is incapable of seeing the fault in old talent like hogan. Got some rose colored fuckin glasses permanently attached to his stupid face. Omega is my absolute favorite wrestler. Fuck Cornette for thinking Kenny isnt at least good.

    • @tnbk_andrxw4474
      @tnbk_andrxw4474 4 года назад +2

      @@nerodeadweightclaudius5422 LMAO. There is your problem. Omega is trash

    • @tnbk_andrxw4474
      @tnbk_andrxw4474 4 года назад +1

      Hogams gimmick in the WWF was trash. Japan is where he was good..

    • @nerodeadweightclaudius5422
      @nerodeadweightclaudius5422 4 года назад

      @@tnbk_andrxw4474 ??? Whats my problem

    • @ChristopherJames1993
      @ChristopherJames1993 4 года назад

      @@nerodeadweightclaudius5422 Cornette has never said that Kenny is bad. He's said that the comedy bullshit is ruining wrestling which it is.

  • @samweston2892
    @samweston2892 6 лет назад +2

    Love Corny, but he really needs to get over it. HIS wrestling business died the day McMahon told the whole word it was a work

  • @guide3116
    @guide3116 5 лет назад +2

    wrestling is not legitimate anymore, its become a joke I can understand jim cornette frustration.

  • @BikiniDeathSquad
    @BikiniDeathSquad 6 лет назад

    16:00 best part

  • @danmorgan9519
    @danmorgan9519 6 лет назад +6

    Bullet club are annoying.

  • @jakebreaker
    @jakebreaker 6 лет назад

    Someone tell Corny that, in kayfabe, DDT is to wrestling what SNL is to acting.

  • @guardianofchaosBD
    @guardianofchaosBD 6 лет назад

    #RespectJimCornette TRULY A LEGEND!!!!!!!!!

  • @TheZom1965
    @TheZom1965 6 лет назад +3

    And whatever the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

  • @ragw33d
    @ragw33d 6 лет назад +4

    omega and jericho have cut some of the best wrestling promos recently, njpw has had alot of the best matches the past year wrestling wise that haven't seen in any of the big brands in past few years. I notice aqlot of the time jim will say his view but always says back whenever its like jim wrestling has changed but omega and jericho are actually doing some old school promoting which you would think he would love being an old skool guy

  • @diggitydave75438
    @diggitydave75438 6 лет назад +1

    It's all about taste. Just because Jim Cornette doesn't like a wrestler, it doesn't make him right that the wrestler is bad and that the fans are bad for liking said wrestler. Harley Race thought that Jerry Lawler was nobody and that's Cornette's favorite wrestler (personally I'm a fan of both Lawler and Race). Lou Thesz thought guys like Abdullah the Butcher and The Sheik were horrible for pro wrestling, but those were two huge drawing heels that were great at their gimmicks. There are cats on here that don't like WWE's style of doing things and there are folks that don't like promotions like NJPW. Then there are promotions like PWG that fans either seem to love or hate. That's what was great about the territory era of pro wrestling and what's great about pro wrestling now, unlike the early 2000's when WCW & ECW died & WWE was the only real show in the United States, New Japan was seriously struggling due to Inoki wanting it to be a shoot style promotion, All Japan was undergoing a serious change due to Keiji Mutoh's bastardizing Kings Road style, Pro Wrestling NOAH had yet to hit their stride, CMLL was in their pre Mistico-Perro Aguayo Jr. boom, Ring of Honor was just starting, and the British independent scene had yet to blow up. Now we have great pro wrestling in a variety of styles all over the world again.

  • @drewgamezzz8482
    @drewgamezzz8482 2 года назад +1

    @17:30 - 18:00 I totally agree with Jim, who in the ruck does the d¡(k spot? That shii is so annoying tbh, like and people wonder why the business is in the way it’s in now and yet they are ok with things like that happening. I’ve always agreed with Corny on this and also the whole like Young Bucks losing ti kids(though idc about them cause the only match I’ve “seen” of those was cause of one or 2 on the Wrestling with Wregret channel.
    But there is one guy in AEW that I really like and his promos and I didn’t even know about him until watching the Rasslin podcast on Barstool with Brandon Walker, I think it’s MJF or something like that. O jag ent seen his work yet, which I’m about to look up some when i wake up. But man I love how he plays the character on the podcast, he seems to be a great talker and heel and I think if his work is any good, he will be a guy I will definitely be watching more and more of.

  • @MrChristopherHaas
    @MrChristopherHaas 5 лет назад +4

    I started watching “Being the Elite” from episode 1 2 months ago. I got to episode 95 and realized that i cant stand any of the central characters. Jim is right its just gymnastics and synchronized swimming washed ashore. Damnit i love wrestling, THANK GOD for WWE network so i can just rewatch the old, good shit instead.

  • @frederickwhite8865
    @frederickwhite8865 4 года назад

    This is Cornette’s best rant

  • @jessieb9384
    @jessieb9384 5 лет назад +1

    Jim I agree with moat of what you say but you don't advertise anything on t.v. or radio anymore you put it online no one buys stuff off tv now

  • @JackPrice-rx8mo
    @JackPrice-rx8mo 3 месяца назад

    ECW actually copied FMW because FMW was around for several years before ECW/Heyman ever though about being "extreme"...

  • @CapitalExpression
    @CapitalExpression 6 лет назад

    the whole stuffed animal thing I guess is a slam on Takahashi and Daryl. The point of that is another way to show that Takahashi is a crazy person who treats stuffed animals like a real thing. Is it comedic? Somewhat but it also got big and added to Takahashi's character.

  • @nielcarpnava
    @nielcarpnava 2 месяца назад

    Six years from now and Corny will become a fan of Kenny Omega regardless of Kenny wrestling blow-up dolls and children. Mark my words. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @scrubduuken7755
    @scrubduuken7755 6 лет назад +3

    Been ripping on Omega so long he can't like him now.

  • @gemini6055
    @gemini6055 6 лет назад +10

    Cornette told the God honest truth. WWE is so boring. I can make better matches on my PlayStation.

  • @Joeyfingaz1
    @Joeyfingaz1 6 лет назад

    "Fuck this fuckin guy"-Jim Cornette

  • @santinobrasi1435
    @santinobrasi1435 6 лет назад +3

    4:17 You don't talk about Daryl like that. He was ripped apart for our sins.

  • @mattiusbattol
    @mattiusbattol 4 года назад

    Half agree with cornette half disagree. I don't agree with his feelings on omega, omega is a top tier talent who almost always has a great match. But I agree with him on the young bucks. I have never seen a match with them that doesn't descend into a spot fest

  • @ANTICHRISTJC
    @ANTICHRISTJC 6 лет назад

    broom stick lmao!!!!😂😂😂😂

  • @Momslovevon
    @Momslovevon 5 лет назад

    Times changed kids just wanna have fun.. hese the joe budden on wrestling ppl love all types of wrestling and entertainment lol i love the talk from young to old wrestlers

  • @nofxceghxst9192
    @nofxceghxst9192 6 лет назад +5

    I would recommend that Jim watch Omega vs Naito..

    • @snowsamuraideath
      @snowsamuraideath 6 лет назад

      Or Omega v Okada 1-3, or Omega's G1 run.

    • @pk_1
      @pk_1 6 лет назад

      51 minutes???

  • @jeffarent
    @jeffarent 6 лет назад +1

    And let’s not forget that Omega wrestled a child and was booked to lose.

    • @1sthander373
      @1sthander373 5 лет назад

      WWE had a kid(refs kid) win a tag title not so long ago.

    • @shahsadsaadu5817
      @shahsadsaadu5817 3 года назад

      Except he wasn't booked to lose. dipshit

  • @phillysfinest215
    @phillysfinest215 Год назад +1

    What was the point in talking about the knockouts and divas. He must hate women

    • @YogsenForfoth
      @YogsenForfoth 7 месяцев назад

      No, he doesn’t hate women. The knockouts and divas divisions were terribly objectifying to women and they didn’t focus on the actual wrestling whatsoever. Thats why he doesn’t like those programs. It’s not because they’re just women. Grow up. 🤦‍♂️

  • @XtrashracoonX
    @XtrashracoonX 5 лет назад

    Jim cornette is the angry Greek god I LOVE IT hey him gordan Ramsey and Simon cowell should just be the us army if they yell at the enemies they just scare them away all three are amazing oh joey Ryan is his name yeahhhhh I'm surprised that Jim did knock his ass out

  • @bradnimbus4836
    @bradnimbus4836 6 лет назад +1

    Ninja Turtle in a box!

  • @Phoneybeetlemaniacxs
    @Phoneybeetlemaniacxs 6 лет назад +2

    Omega has a great mind for the business. Your eally think its just chris' idea. Kenny doesn't do the comic stuff. Hes a great talent.

  • @brian9670
    @brian9670 6 лет назад +6

    I always honestly thought the heat between Cornette and Omega was somewhat of a work. But I really don't know. I think deep down he likes Omega.

    • @KaloKross
      @KaloKross 6 лет назад +2

      ur prob right. and i think jim cornette just doesnt want to admit when he is wrong, and dont forget hes a worker and lives him gimmick so he will stick to it. its just like cutting a promo

  • @mosaic2120
    @mosaic2120 6 лет назад +1

    Does Cornette ever have good thing to say about anyone or anything?

  • @cwatson42785
    @cwatson42785 4 года назад

    21:10 😂😂😂😂

  • @arlosteiner8382
    @arlosteiner8382 6 лет назад

    I get a slight twitch whenever I hear Cornette slams Omega because Omega's name is so goofy that it would fit in with Cornette's era which with rose tints off was extremely goofy

  • @timlangenderfer7746
    @timlangenderfer7746 6 лет назад

    I think its ironic Corney keeps saying Jericho is going to have a match with a broomstick, when omegas match with a blow-up doll is the literal execution of that saying. Which means omega is talented...thats the point of it, to say someone who can do that is talented.

    • @newerest1
      @newerest1 3 года назад

      Omega sucks though.

  • @supernummy11
    @supernummy11 3 года назад +1

    I wear make up shop at hot topic and I do have a girlfriend good sir

  • @Arodiscool11
    @Arodiscool11 6 лет назад

    it won't happen but it would be great if Kenny went to wwe. He would easily be the most popular babyface in the company

    • @jesuszamora6949
      @jesuszamora6949 6 лет назад

      Arodiscool11 I'm not sure why Kenny would WANT to go to WWE. Vince would ruin him.

  • @Gutslinger
    @Gutslinger 6 лет назад

    Clicked on the video hoping to hear opinions on the match, and within the first few seconds he states that the match hasn't even happened yet.. Well, fuck!

  • @rowdy1467
    @rowdy1467 6 лет назад +1

    Omega is very talented. I just wish he took himself a bit more seriously, so that I, as a fan, can do the same.

    • @jasonh.2439
      @jasonh.2439 6 лет назад

      Rowdy 1 How does he not take himself seriously?

    • @mrbadguysan
      @mrbadguysan 6 лет назад

      Jason H. So let me get this straight; I'm supposed to think Omega is a badass, but he wrestles blowup dolls and little girls and dresses up as Princesses.
      Would you think I was a badass if I was dressed as Princess Jasmine?

    • @ChristopherJames1993
      @ChristopherJames1993 4 года назад

      @@mrbadguysan if Jasmine had a shotgun yes I would.

    • @shahsadsaadu5817
      @shahsadsaadu5817 3 года назад

      @@mrbadguysan it depends.minoru suzuki is one of the most scariest guys you'll ever see in a ring.but he also do some goofy shir from Time to time. also, remember Brock party?

  • @444bid3
    @444bid3 4 года назад

    It was for the kitties !!! Like the ninja turtle match!!!!

  • @HyperActive7
    @HyperActive7 6 лет назад

    Like it or not, Corny, Kenny Omega puts butts in seats. They are pushing him because they have been in The United States and want to bring in North American talent along with British Talent or isn't Zack Sabre Jr, Will Osprey, or anyone else like Davey Boy Jr a good example of why New Japan is eating WWE for lunch.

  • @stoppedbythebumper
    @stoppedbythebumper 6 лет назад

    If he hates omega and the bucks and ibushi so much why the fuck does he talk about them in almost every interview ?

  • @TheLocalFuzz
    @TheLocalFuzz 6 лет назад

    Jim Cornette has now gone 100% old man yells at cloud.

  • @targetthyself
    @targetthyself 6 лет назад +1

    Jim just needs to admit that Kayfabe is dead, and it died 2 decades before Kenny Omega got into the business, and Omega got a 4 star match out of the blow up doll, and a 4 star match with the 9 yr old girl and fuckin got over himself. Carney Wrestling is dead and you can't(and shouldn't anyway because Carney Wrestling is for losers and conmen) put the toothpaste back in the tube. You don't need to trick people to get them to watch wrestling. And that's the core idea of Cornette's approach, that you can't make the "real money" unless you fucking scam people.
    I love Cornette, great storyteller good dude, smart guy, but his dogmatic ideas of wrestling and how we should all go back to the stone age is getting old as fuck. PWG gets over, DDT and Stardom are comedy feds in Japan that makes fun of WWE for Japanese audiences and develop talent, and put smiles on faces, let it go. NJPW is probably the embodiment of everything Cornette thinks wrestling should be, and they have no problem working in guys like the Bucks and Omega and Kota Ibushi(they even reference his homosexual character to bury him like rasslin would and he's still over like rover) The days of fat hairy dog faced racists assholes with women chained to radiators in their dungeons and name their stockholm syndrome captives "Woman" and "Babydoll" is dead, and thank fucking millennials for that. Let's keep that shit where it belongs Cornette's stories, and Dave Meltzer's history books.
    As for Jericho-Omega, I don't know how you could hate a guy like Omega, a guy who's the 2nd or 3rd best worker in the world and is still a good enough guy to let a dad-bod out-of-shape 47-year-old do the layout and call the fucking match because Jericho can't go 30 in the dome because he's out of shape and has to take 900 shortcuts with furniture. P.S all the WWE marks that was Omega's worst match in 2 years. If you liked it, and you probably should considering the shit McMahon shoves down your throat after shooting some of his cum in your eye then you've got a lot of NJPW to watch, fucking enjoy, cuz it's great.

  • @TmnTyler2020
    @TmnTyler2020 6 лет назад +1

    Kenny Omega is currently saving the wrestling world. Too bad Jim won't watch the product and just butches based on his bias.

    • @guide3116
      @guide3116 5 лет назад

      he,s saving the wrestling world in front of audience of 500 ; )

    • @jesus828
      @jesus828 5 лет назад

      Tyler Blakeney woah woah woah woah

    • @Alphonzo316
      @Alphonzo316 5 лет назад

      Saving the wrestling world?! Lmaaaaaaaaoooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

    • @nerodeadweightclaudius5422
      @nerodeadweightclaudius5422 4 года назад

      @@guide3116 njpw. That is all

  • @triplesixsdc8193
    @triplesixsdc8193 6 лет назад

    Well Cornette, thanks for killing my excitement for this match. Jesus fucking Christ!

  • @sumeetagrawal9708
    @sumeetagrawal9708 6 лет назад

    ...and this is exactly why no one takes corny seriously these days

  • @ish2593
    @ish2593 6 лет назад +2

    Jim Cornette had a wrestler in a ninja turtle outfit for cyring out loud