I would have too! His is my favorite channel. We are waiting to see if the Oak survives. It was looking somewhat bad last summer. We hope it survives but it's in such a bad spot..
Man one of the best investments I ever made for about $4500 is a sewer camera. In many cases you find a lot of the issues before digging into everything. Love your work and thank you for being such a great rep for the industry. Many thumbs up!!!!
I like the fact you go the extra and make whatever was wrong, better and with quality materials to last for years to come....Nothing more important than a goood reputation for works done....you got my sub
You are using the best drain cleaning machine made. The Spartan 1065 is an animal, yes I worked 11 years digging sewer lines and cleaning drains. What a wonderful progression. I would recommend going into the drain cleaning business to any young man 21 years old and a high school diploma. You can make a better then living wage for sure. Work for someone and if it suits you , not everyone can run a company but at some point you may give that a try as well. Lots of good companies to work for out there.
Funny you mention that David! My little machine didn't cut it so my buddy brought that Spartan over. That thing is scary for sure. But it had the power to break the terra cotta pipe chunk out of there and that's what alerted us we had clay pipe still in there. I agree on the drain cleaning business advice. A friend of mine says to any young man: Buy a machine and work it. He does stump grinding and is as happy as can be.
Very good advice Dave Christensen. I am a marine technician that specializes in hvac, refrigeration and electrical on large vessels. Took a chance 15 years ago to go on my own and never looked back. The youth of today either does not want to get dirty for a living or were never informed about the different specialized trades that make life comfortable. Lots of money out there for a good tradesman with a desire to labor.
@@potatolew4495 Good points. Too many people think they "have to" go to college. Some are much better off never going to college until they are older. I think our society has sent mixed messages for a long time. When I went to high school, we had shop classes which taught people about working on cars, carpentry, jewelry making, etc. Needed skills. I went into the Army after high school then came back and went to college. For the career I ended up in I needed the degree. One of my sons was working on his Doctorate but then he realized he didn't need it unless he was going to teach. His field is Information Technology (IT). He has a Master's Degree as a Computer Engineer. He works for one of the largest Silicon Valley computer companies and has a very good income. He started out when he was 13 writing computer programs and testing software. He has loved doing this all his life.
So yesterday your channel popped up on my feed. I’ve been binge watching for two days straight. Great channel to watch and learn different water removal from different parts of the country. Quality work.
Just had my septic system re done with those infiltrator field lines. Watching this made my PTSD flare up because how much it cost. Looks like you guys did a great job.
Flashbacks. My house is from the 50s with cast iron sewer pipes. Roots kept clogging and we put a camera down and I saw the water running into the dirt under my house. House on a slab, they had to dig a tunnel under the house and jackhammer the floor put in one of the bathrooms. Expensive, but all new glued ABS now.
nice job there, when you were filling the middle section of the tank, I was like why is he throwing sand inside the tank, and asking myself questions, but you explained very well the purpose of it and also it cleared my doubt about that section because I thought the tank wasn't divided into 3 sections
You guys really do everything. I enjoyed this video as much as your others... Got my poop tank pumped last week and its concrete 1000gal. I would be worried that polly tank would float out of the ground around me with the high water table.
The tank floating up is one reason we made sure to compact dirt around it and bed everything very well. Once filled up, plus the sand in the support column means it won't float out. We were a little worried until the tank filled up from usage though! Overall, this poly tank is the ticket.
Gate City Foundation Drainage Hi Sean your reply is spot on. In the U.K. It's good idea with plastic tanks to charge them with water equal to the outside water table as you're setting it in place. The poop in time displaces the water into your drainage field. I often see in the states that you might bury the access lids. Why would you do that if they are double sealed and locked? Is there a technical reason, cause you always end up hunting them out when you need to service the tank Cheers
@@markstanton2926 It's personal preference on the lids. This tank should not need to be opened for many, many years and often times homeowners don't think that far into the future. They sell risers so you can bring the lid to the surface, but I don't see that too often. My plan is to install a paver patio and use different color pavers over the lid so I know exactly where it is located.
@@GCFD All the septic builders in my area leave an access tube at the top of the ground level so the cleanout can be easily found. One of my neighbors had to replace his septic within five years since the leach lines got plugged? Anyway, he has two green plastic covers which are domed sitting slightly above ground level. He installed a vent pipe with a wind turbine to exhaust the gasses (the smell was pretty bad for a while). To "disguise" the turbine, he put a small 5' windmill over the tank. Now we can tell how fast the wind is blowing and what direction by watching the wheel turn.
Here in mass the require a concrete ballast to be poured around plastic tanks just for that reason. Or some sort of anchor and straping to be put in place to hold I down. I always immediately fill mine with water to give it strength and to reduce the risk of it coming up or collapsing. Especially if the house isn't going to be occupied for a while. The tank in the video looked like a norwesco tank. Last time I speced one out I'm pretty sure they called for straping.
I live in Oregon, here most counties require at the tee of the drain field a D Box or distribution box. This has to have a lid and be accessible from the top of the ground. Sometime we have 4 to 5 100 foot long lines off the d box. Very interesting the difference between areas. Mostly it is county inspector s that inspect septic system s not city inspectors. Yup some places in the city has septic still. Huge sewer project in the 90’s remove almost all but their still around in the city. Excellent video
Those septic tanks built with cinder blocks that I have run across, all of them seemed to have dirt bottoms, the same goes for grease pits also. It seems the plastic tanks are of a better design than what was used in the early 80's, because those would pop up out of the ground in heavy rains.
5:36 - deck is attached to the house with joist hangers onto a 2x8 plank that is often bolted to the house; you could pull the wall of the house out! I would Sawzall all the joists along the face of the house first.
Good point Michael. I did verify there was no ledger board on this deck install before I ripped it out! I prefer building decks this way where they are independent of the house. 👍
I have a septic tank which is now about 45 years old. The tank was fiberglass which is starting to delaminate. When it is replaced, I want them to remove the old tank so the new tank can go into the same location. I don't have enough room in my front yard to put the tank in a different location. I will also need to have a new leach field since some of the old one is orange pipe, which seems to be a wax/paper pipe. I think the total size is about 200 ft. but years back I found where part of it was crushed so I replaced it. I also removed the mulberry tree which had its roots growing into the leach lines as well as the tank.
In the old old house I grew up in, before septic tanks, they would dig a big 10 foot diameter hole with a drilling bucket as deep as they could go and then run the sewer line to it then put a lid over the top. Older ones used tar coated wood and later ones would put in a wood lattice just strong enough to hold up concrete until it cured and could hold itself. Then they would plant at least one or more salt ceders next to the sewer hole because those trees would thrive on the sewer water and keep the tank as water free as possible. A good size salt ceder can suck tens of gallons of water out of the ground every day. When that tank filled up with solids you would just dig another tank a dozen or more feet away and divert the sewer line to it and transplant a sapling from the old salt ceder or plant another salt ceder. Deprived of the water from the old sewer tank the old salt ceder would die.
@@GCFD True, but you can not pump out a septic tank and restart with what you already have. Over the decades you end you with holes all around the property whose tops start to sink as all the solid wast finishes decomposing and shrink and the sides eventual crumble and the depressions have to be filled in have to be filled in. The last one my father had dig was more than 50 years ago and if you dug that hole again in the same place you would get strange looking dirt. I know because I spent some time digging where one of the other two that I new the location of. Its wooden cap had long ago decomposed so digging was lots easier.
You don't have a city main anywhere near by ? You could pump go them with a grinder even if they are 1000-2000 feet away. Better than a septic . But awesome video. Your channel is awesome.
Obviously not, if there was the house would be on the city sewer system. Not sure if you live in the US, where I lived as a child we had a septic system and when sewer was installed ALL houses were tied in no exceptions.
I've heard these leech field chambers end up collapsing/clogging under the weight of the dirt in the long term, and simply don't perform as well as a traditional gravel-bed. Thoughts?
@@GCFD Ive used them. They work quite well, but there are a couple of issues. They are quite sound and wont collapse, BUT, they will push down and sink from the weight above if you dont prep the ground properly. This will reduce the storage capacity and can cause the pipe to separate from the chamber. This is the only real failure ive seen when using the infiltrator type systems. There are several ways to prevent this, but do your homework. Your in essence building an arch on a swamp. It's gonna sink if you don't support it properly. Its a lot easier to make sure it doesnt happen to start with.
Take it from a guy who has installed more than 2000 systems . Plastic chambers fill with dirt over time no matter what you do .As a Designer of septic systems and installer of the same i always design a pipe and stone work ?
@@GCFD unfortunately in Ohio we cant use gravity systems anymore used to be ETA mounds now its Wisconsin mounds and 15k for a septic system... plus all the issues with pumps and aerators...
Not sure what code is where you live but notice how all the joists run into a 2x that 2x is bolted to the posts and there is center support there so technically it was supported properly not how I would build it but it wasn’t exactly done wrong
@@GCFD oh yeah no doubt there lol deck looks like garbage with poor craftsmanship I also tear decks that look like this down 24/7 in the warmer seasons that is to “code” where I live but honestly I wouldn’t pay the builder if my deck was built like that. I build them with atleast a 2x8 double stacked header spanned no farther than 8 ft with not even a 1/4” over 3 ft cantilever. If it’s going to be a larger deck with plenty of parties always a 2x10 double stacked and still only span 8ft
I wonder if a cinder block tank with rhino liner all over it would last? Because ive seen them test explosives on cinder block walls and them pass the test lol.
Man, I hope you have good brakes on that used U-haul dump truck. You load that thing up heavy! I like your work though, nobody likes a swampy yard or a wet basement.
I bought that old Uhaul 5 years ago and it looks exactly the same. I didn't bother fixing it up cosmetically because it's 25 years old. But that is one tough truck. If I had known it was such a great truck I would have painted it back then.
When you are packing the sand with the bucket of the excavator...have the bucket full of sand. Why? Because the sand weight will increase the force of the bucket while packing. Give it a try to see if you like it or not.
This was at my place but I would charge around 7k for it. A major consideration too is the amount of time needed to let the ground settle back before doing anything with it. It's been about 7 months and I'm starting to think about installing some pavers over the tank where the deck was. Pavers can be taken back up if needed.
Good example of how what looks like might be a relatively simple job is actually a huge one. And building a deck ontop of a septic tank? Who does that? Our house was built in the 50's. When we first moved here,in the late 80's, the pipe connecting our house to the tank failed. Apparently it was Orangeburg pipe. The tank is precast concrete, 750 gal. Anyway so now, the system is close to 70 years old, and the leach field is getting "tired". We would notice that after a rainfall, or an especially rainy period, the toilet wouldn't want to flush. And after pumping, water was actually flowing back into the tank from the leach field. Not good. Time for a new septic system. The new tank will be plastic, with the minimum size of 1,250. The leach system will be something called GST, which has some advantages over a standard sand and gravel system, one being a much smaller footprint. The whole thing will cost over 15 grand, and that doesn't include the already over 2 grand for the test pit and septic design. Yikes.
The video editing suggests that we were doing septic and then we found out about the deck.... It simply would have been faster to demo the deck....remove....did out all the bad pipe etc etc. Some useless drama?😁 Good job on the work....
Whew!!! Whew whew shooooEeeee! Don’t know how you stand to do that type of work. That has got to be some foul smelling work!!! What a freaking mess. Did anyone live there? Yuk! Cool video though! Love the accents(I’m from Raleigh)!
Hey Joseph - This job typically goes for somewhere around $7000 total with materials and labor. I would be interested in doing more of these since I have the equipment and plumbers. One major concern is the time needed to let the ground settle and stabilize. You can't just regrade it after installation because you don't want to run machines over your new install for several months.
@@brentnovak2061 these new technologies with the plastic tank and chambers make installation so much easier. Plus with chambers your field doesn’t need to be as large.
Oh man, I feel for the homeowner. He just lost about a third of his suare footage even if it was a crappy deck.... That oak tree probably grew after the tank was installed, maybe? They might not have known the tank was there.....
Most of the time, from what I've seen, trees get planted by people who really don't know to keep the tree a good distance away from a building. Two years ago I had my apricot removed since it was only five feet from my sunroom and had roots coming under the slab foundation trying to get into the family room. The stump is over 36" across (almost 1 meter). Some of the roots are more than 8" in diameter. Great wood, but I don't burn any in my fireplace so the guy hauled it off. I suspect there was more than 8 cord of wood since the tree was over 40' tall.
I agree...at least we were able to get the job done on the homeowner's time and in great weather. Sometimes taking care of a potential problem on your own time is easier than sitting on a ticking time bomb! Great comment Ray!
The word "SHIT" is an acronym that came out of old, old England...prior to the invention of the engine, back when cargo was transported by sailing ships. SHIT = 'S'hip 'H'igh 'In' 'T'ransport. What? Manure was a commodity transported by sailing ships, back before the engine was invented. When manure got wet...it made a stinking mess. So the sailors hung the bags of manure on the walls and ceilings of the ship...thus the invention of the word SHIT. The F word came out of the Catholic church...'F'or 'U'nauthorized 'C'arnal 'K'nowledge...another acronym!
Channel was in my suggestion, now I’m addicted lol, voice over is super crisp!
I'm glad you're enjoying the channel! Thanks for commenting! - Shawn
I came across it less than a few months ago, Great channel That, the details & outro trailer verification makes it even better
Came across one of your videos by mistake, 3 hours later and I'm still watching them !
Thank you!
I would have paid to see Andrew Camerata do a guest appearance for the deck removal! That oak tree needs to be removed ASAP!
I would have too! His is my favorite channel. We are waiting to see if the Oak survives. It was looking somewhat bad last summer. We hope it survives but it's in such a bad spot..
@Timberhitch LLC I watched the vid where he almost tore the walls open of the house. Boy did he get hammered for that.
Thanks Shawn, this video reminds me I gotta get my tank pumped out, its been 5 years.
Man one of the best investments I ever made for about $4500 is a sewer camera. In many cases you find a lot of the issues before digging into everything. Love your work and thank you for being such a great rep for the industry. Many thumbs up!!!!
Thank you! Thanks for watching and commenting Brooks! - Shawn
Yes, those cameras are fantastic. I got a plumber as I suspected a blockage and yes, they found it quickly. Brilliant tech but they’re expensive. 👍
I like the fact you go the extra and make whatever was wrong, better and with quality materials to last for years to come....Nothing more important than a goood reputation for works done....you got my sub
Thank you for the sub Dude! Thanks for watching - Shawn
You do it All! I can smell that from my younger days. That reminds me, I have to check when my septic was last pumped.😱
Haha it might be time!
You are using the best drain cleaning machine made. The Spartan 1065 is an animal, yes I worked 11 years digging sewer lines and cleaning drains. What a wonderful progression. I would recommend going into the drain cleaning business to any young man 21 years old and a high school diploma. You can make a better then living wage for sure. Work for someone and if it suits you , not everyone can run a company but at some point you may give that a try as well. Lots of good companies to work for out there.
Funny you mention that David! My little machine didn't cut it so my buddy brought that Spartan over. That thing is scary for sure. But it had the power to break the terra cotta pipe chunk out of there and that's what alerted us we had clay pipe still in there. I agree on the drain cleaning business advice. A friend of mine says to any young man: Buy a machine and work it. He does stump grinding and is as happy as can be.
Very good advice Dave Christensen. I am a marine technician that specializes in hvac, refrigeration and electrical on large vessels. Took a chance 15 years ago to go on my own and never looked back. The youth of today either does not want to get dirty for a living or were never informed about the different specialized trades that make life comfortable. Lots of money out there for a good tradesman with a desire to labor.
@@potatolew4495 Good points. Too many people think they "have to" go to college. Some are much better off never going to college until they are older. I think our society has sent mixed messages for a long time. When I went to high school, we had shop classes which taught people about working on cars, carpentry, jewelry making, etc. Needed skills. I went into the Army after high school then came back and went to college. For the career I ended up in I needed the degree.
One of my sons was working on his Doctorate but then he realized he didn't need it unless he was going to teach. His field is Information Technology (IT). He has a Master's Degree as a Computer Engineer. He works for one of the largest Silicon Valley computer companies and has a very good income. He started out when he was 13 writing computer programs and testing software. He has loved doing this all his life.
Good stuff man! You earned my sub for sure. I will always support honest, professional, respectable labor.
Thank you! Check out my other videos and let me know what you think!
So yesterday your channel popped up on my feed. I’ve been binge watching for two days straight. Great channel to watch and learn different water removal from different parts of the country. Quality work.
Thanks for watching and for commenting! - Shawn
That oak tree must go, no questions asked, for the sake of the septic tank, the new lines and the leachfield.
I want to install a tank for my kitchen sink to replace a grease trap. Thanks for the demo
Those chambers are the best for a leach field, mine have 10 yrs of vehicle traffic driving over.
I thought so too. The technology with the plastic tank and chambers is so cool
Yeah, this is my new favorite “random watch” seems I’m into this type stuff.
Thank you!
Just had my septic system re done with those infiltrator field lines. Watching this made my PTSD flare up because how much it cost. Looks like you guys did a great job.
Thanks for commenting Andrew! This was a big job for sure. I can't wait for my next septic system install.
Mine needs to be redone but I’m not sure how it will be done since the house sits on a mountain.
An old leech tank. Still have one at my house. Works great if you keep up on maintenance
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Please record the whole job so we can see the joy of finishing it
Man! Y’all do it all. Thanks for posting.
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Flashbacks. My house is from the 50s with cast iron sewer pipes. Roots kept clogging and we put a camera down and I saw the water running into the dirt under my house. House on a slab, they had to dig a tunnel under the house and jackhammer the floor put in one of the bathrooms. Expensive, but all new glued ABS now.
Nice! I'm glad you got it done!
nice job there, when you were filling the middle section of the tank, I was like why is he throwing sand inside the tank, and asking myself questions, but you explained very well the purpose of it and also it cleared my doubt about that section because I thought the tank wasn't divided into 3 sections
Haha, that's classic!
You guys really do everything. I enjoyed this video as much as your others... Got my poop tank pumped last week and its concrete 1000gal. I would be worried that polly tank would float out of the ground around me with the high water table.
The tank floating up is one reason we made sure to compact dirt around it and bed everything very well. Once filled up, plus the sand in the support column means it won't float out. We were a little worried until the tank filled up from usage though! Overall, this poly tank is the ticket.
Gate City Foundation Drainage
Hi Sean your reply is spot on.
In the U.K. It's good idea with plastic tanks to charge them with water equal to the outside water table as you're setting it in place. The poop in time displaces the water into your drainage field.
I often see in the states that you might bury the access lids. Why would you do that if they are double sealed and locked?
Is there a technical reason, cause you always end up hunting them out when you need to service the tank
Cheers
@@markstanton2926 It's personal preference on the lids. This tank should not need to be opened for many, many years and often times homeowners don't think that far into the future. They sell risers so you can bring the lid to the surface, but I don't see that too often. My plan is to install a paver patio and use different color pavers over the lid so I know exactly where it is located.
@@GCFD All the septic builders in my area leave an access tube at the top of the ground level so the cleanout can be easily found. One of my neighbors had to replace his septic within five years since the leach lines got plugged? Anyway, he has two green plastic covers which are domed sitting slightly above ground level. He installed a vent pipe with a wind turbine to exhaust the gasses (the smell was pretty bad for a while). To "disguise" the turbine, he put a small 5' windmill over the tank. Now we can tell how fast the wind is blowing and what direction by watching the wheel turn.
Here in mass the require a concrete ballast to be poured around plastic tanks just for that reason. Or some sort of anchor and straping to be put in place to hold I down. I always immediately fill mine with water to give it strength and to reduce the risk of it coming up or collapsing. Especially if the house isn't going to be occupied for a while. The tank in the video looked like a norwesco tank. Last time I speced one out I'm pretty sure they called for straping.
I'm glad I did not have to smell it. Was waiting on the follow up bathroom flush lol.
Haha Luckily I missed that after-footage.
I live in Oregon, here most counties require at the tee of the drain field a D Box or distribution box. This has to have a lid and be accessible from the top of the ground. Sometime we have 4 to 5 100 foot long lines off the d box. Very interesting the difference between areas. Mostly it is county inspector s that inspect septic system s not city inspectors. Yup some places in the city has septic still. Huge sewer project in the 90’s remove almost all but their still around in the city. Excellent video
Thank you!
Always a job well done
Great job & clear explanations. I have a failed leech field ( I think) . Would give u a shout but I’m on this muddy island 🏴
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Those septic tanks built with cinder blocks that I have run across, all of them seemed to have dirt bottoms, the same goes for grease pits also.
It seems the plastic tanks are of a better design than what was used in the early 80's, because those would pop up out of the ground in heavy rains.
So far it's doing well. I'm happy we got it replaced before any emergency situation popped up..
Awww i wanted to see more.
Thank you!
Your channel showed up on my recommendations and I'm hooked!! You do great work.. I subbed.
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying the channel! - Shawn
5:36 - deck is attached to the house with joist hangers onto a 2x8 plank that is often bolted to the house; you could pull the wall of the house out! I would Sawzall all the joists along the face of the house first.
My thoughts exactly. It made me nervous watching how much force was necessary in ripping that deck off of the house. Yikes!
Good point Michael. I did verify there was no ledger board on this deck install before I ripped it out! I prefer building decks this way where they are independent of the house. 👍
@@GCFD Here on Ontario, Canada it is illegal to attach a deck to a house - not sure about the code in N.C..
@@MichaelHolloway Kinda curious about the reasoning behind that, what is the concern? Additional load on the wall?
I can’t imagine this was the best smelling job you’ve ever been out to
It was interesting! I've worked in wastewater treatment plants before so I'm used to it.
@@GCFD It's a really 💩 job...
But someone has to do it...
In Florida we collapse the walls and fill in the old hole and then dig a new hole for the new tank...
Saves on disposal fees and extra digging time
I have a septic tank which is now about 45 years old. The tank was fiberglass which is starting to delaminate. When it is replaced, I want them to remove the old tank so the new tank can go into the same location. I don't have enough room in my front yard to put the tank in a different location. I will also need to have a new leach field since some of the old one is orange pipe, which seems to be a wax/paper pipe. I think the total size is about 200 ft. but years back I found where part of it was crushed so I replaced it. I also removed the mulberry tree which had its roots growing into the leach lines as well as the tank.
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
Great stuff mate
Thanks for the comment and for watching!
In the old old house I grew up in, before septic tanks, they would dig a big 10 foot diameter hole with a drilling bucket as deep as they could go and then run the sewer line to it then put a lid over the top. Older ones used tar coated wood and later ones would put in a wood lattice just strong enough to hold up concrete until it cured and could hold itself. Then they would plant at least one or more salt ceders next to the sewer hole because those trees would thrive on the sewer water and keep the tank as water free as possible. A good size salt ceder can suck tens of gallons of water out of the ground every day. When that tank filled up with solids you would just dig another tank a dozen or more feet away and divert the sewer line to it and transplant a sapling from the old salt ceder or plant another salt ceder. Deprived of the water from the old sewer tank the old salt ceder would die.
Pretty interesting! Both the old and modern systems use biological treatment for waste water.
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True, but you can not pump out a septic tank and restart with what you already have. Over the decades you end you with holes all around the property whose tops start to sink as all the solid wast finishes decomposing and shrink and the sides eventual crumble and the depressions have to be filled in have to be filled in. The last one my father had dig was more than 50 years ago and if you dug that hole again in the same place you would get strange looking dirt. I know because I spent some time digging where one of the other two that I new the location of. Its wooden cap had long ago decomposed so digging was lots easier.
Should have a distribution box that feeds each run evenly.
When I have two laterals I typically use a twin elbow, but you could definitely use a d box for two.
You need to fill it up with sand otherwise it can start to 'float' when the area around the tank gets saturated with water after a heavy rainfall
We were very careful to bed the tank properly. Luckily it stayed in place. 👍
You don't have a city main anywhere near by ? You could pump go them with a grinder even if they are 1000-2000 feet away. Better than a septic . But awesome video. Your channel is awesome.
Obviously not, if there was the house would be on the city sewer system. Not sure if you live in the US, where I lived as a child we had a septic system and when sewer was installed ALL houses were tied in no exceptions.
No, this house is out in the woods. No city water or sewer connections anywhere, unfortunately...
@@GCFD is your well anywhere near that ? That looks gross lol. Hope there is enough soil between ground and the leaking sepetic
I've heard these leech field chambers end up collapsing/clogging under the weight of the dirt in the long term, and simply don't perform as well as a traditional gravel-bed. Thoughts?
Everyone around here says they are awesome. We shall see!
@@GCFD Ive used them. They work quite well, but there are a couple of issues. They are quite sound and wont collapse, BUT, they will push down and sink from the weight above if you dont prep the ground properly. This will reduce the storage capacity and can cause the pipe to separate from the chamber. This is the only real failure ive seen when using the infiltrator type systems. There are several ways to prevent this, but do your homework. Your in essence building an arch on a swamp. It's gonna sink if you don't support it properly. Its a lot easier to make sure it doesnt happen to start with.
Take it from a guy who has installed more than 2000 systems . Plastic chambers fill with dirt over time no matter what you do .As a Designer of septic systems and installer of the same i always design a pipe and stone work ?
Wow we have to have all sorts of mounds and aerators for septic systems...
This job had enough fall for a gravity system.
@@GCFD unfortunately in Ohio we cant use gravity systems anymore used to be ETA mounds now its Wisconsin mounds and 15k for a septic system... plus all the issues with pumps and aerators...
Job security run over and brake the pipes and put in a new septic Way to go Shawn !
Keep the videos coming. Sucks you had to dig that up.
Thanks for watching!
I shoot liners right through that old clay by pvc joint all day every week saves the deck and digging I also pipe burst what can’t be lined
Wow I want to build the same septic system. What size was the pvc 40 pipe coming out of the foundation wall?
We used 4" pvc
About to buy my first house , super nervous about septic costs/problems.
Anything can be fixed. The trick is to buy with that expectation if needed. Get a septic inspection for sure.
WAS the deck already slated for demo......it was in very bad shape already and was empty.....when you started filming?
Yes it was already on the chopping block due to the way it was constructed and the condition.
Not sure what code is where you live but notice how all the joists run into a 2x that 2x is bolted to the posts and there is center support there so technically it was supported properly not how I would build it but it wasn’t exactly done wrong
That deck was garbage from day 1.
@@GCFD oh yeah no doubt there lol deck looks like garbage with poor craftsmanship I also tear decks that look like this down 24/7 in the warmer seasons that is to “code” where I live but honestly I wouldn’t pay the builder if my deck was built like that. I build them with atleast a 2x8 double stacked header spanned no farther than 8 ft with not even a 1/4” over 3 ft cantilever. If it’s going to be a larger deck with plenty of parties always a 2x10 double stacked and still only span 8ft
Time to take out a mortgage Shawn is on the job !
Weldon........ its very challenging job
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Wow… didn’t folks stop using terra cotta pipe like 80 years ago? This stuff is still used?
You see it very rarely. I just got lucky I guess.
Lol. Josh almost ate shit at 18:46, literally. 😂😂😂
Whew!
I had chambers on a new house it lasted 10 years , had to put in a new field
What caused them to fail? I thought they were supposed to be the best.
The beds became clogged because of the sand they used, it was not pores enough. The new bed is one stoninch with
PVC 4 inc
What did you have to do with the original leach field if anything?
We did nothing with it.
@@GCFD thanks, I am in a similar situation and was wondering if I would have to have the old field remediated.
sand in the tank is probably just to keep the tank from floating up out of the ground. even concrete tanks can float
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UGH!!! What an awful job this is. I could run drainage pipe all day with you, but I would have to call in sick for this one.:)
Haha it was a pretty big job. I thought about doing some more septic systems, but then I realized there is plenty of drainage work.
@@GCFD God bless that man who drains those tanks all day.
More job security put the tank next to a oak tree so the roots can grow in it
I wonder if a cinder block tank with rhino liner all over it would last? Because ive seen them test explosives on cinder block walls and them pass the test lol.
In the immortal words of Han Solo........ "What a wonderful smell you've discovered"
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I can't imagine the smell. And in the truck, going to be stuck in that wood for a long time. Lol
Hahah
with the current lumber prices, replacing the deck will cost more then the septic tank.
Hahah it's crazy for sure. That deck was not planned for replacement. A paver patio is going in at some point.
No permit requirements in Greensboro
Yes, they're required.
Permits are required in every state in America for this type of work.
Terracotta the same thing as clay? Never heard the term terracotta before and I work with sewer for a municipality in Texas.
Yes! Same as clay pipe
Man, I hope you have good brakes on that used U-haul dump truck. You load that thing up heavy!
I like your work though, nobody likes a swampy yard or a wet basement.
I bought that old Uhaul 5 years ago and it looks exactly the same. I didn't bother fixing it up cosmetically because it's 25 years old. But that is one tough truck. If I had known it was such a great truck I would have painted it back then.
When you are packing the sand with the bucket of the excavator...have the bucket full of sand. Why? Because the sand weight will increase the force of the bucket while packing. Give it a try to see if you like it or not.
Great idea! I do that with the skidsteer bucket too!
What the HECK , MY DECK !
Sitting on the tank...
How much was this job?
This was at my place but I would charge around 7k for it. A major consideration too is the amount of time needed to let the ground settle back before doing anything with it. It's been about 7 months and I'm starting to think about installing some pavers over the tank where the deck was. Pavers can be taken back up if needed.
@@GCFD burying the lede here.. haha. The bootmakers children have no shoes ;)
@@GCFD I was surprised when the homeowner was on board with spontaneously pumping the septic and tearing out the deck altogether :)
The sand in the middle mainly keeps the tank from floating away in extreme rain conditions and poor installation
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Good example of how what looks like might be a relatively simple job is actually a huge one. And building a deck ontop of a septic tank? Who does that? Our house was built in the 50's. When we first moved here,in the late 80's, the pipe connecting our house to the tank failed. Apparently it was Orangeburg pipe. The tank is precast concrete, 750 gal. Anyway so now, the system is close to 70 years old, and the leach field is getting "tired". We would notice that after a rainfall, or an especially rainy period, the toilet wouldn't want to flush. And after pumping, water was actually flowing back into the tank from the leach field. Not good. Time for a new septic system.
The new tank will be plastic, with the minimum size of 1,250. The leach system will be something called GST, which has some advantages over a standard sand and gravel system, one being a much smaller footprint. The whole thing will cost over 15 grand, and that doesn't include the already over 2 grand for the test pit and septic design. Yikes.
Ouch, thats a high $ repair Not including the deck that rotted out and poor install of the pillars with todays wood prices Glad its not my place
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what is a leach field what does it do...... leach what
The effluent that comes out of the tank is just water and the leach field distributes that water so that it can percolate into the ground.
The video editing suggests that we were doing septic and then we found out about the deck....
It simply would have been faster to demo the deck....remove....did out all the bad pipe etc etc.
Some useless drama?😁
Good job on the work....
Thanks for the comment Paul! I tried to tell the story of how the clogged line evolved into an entire system replacement. It was a pain for sure!
Whew!!! Whew whew shooooEeeee! Don’t know how you stand to do that type of work. That has got to be some foul smelling work!!! What a freaking mess.
Did anyone live there? Yuk! Cool video though! Love the accents(I’m from Raleigh)!
For some reason sewage doesn't smell as bad a fresh poop lol
how much did a job like this cost?
Hey Joseph - This job typically goes for somewhere around $7000 total with materials and labor. I would be interested in doing more of these since I have the equipment and plumbers.
One major concern is the time needed to let the ground settle and stabilize. You can't just regrade it after installation because you don't want to run machines over your new install for several months.
@@GCFD wow that's cheap. In Michigan a new septic field is 10k. An engineered septic system is 15-20k
@@brentnovak2061 these new technologies with the plastic tank and chambers make installation so much easier. Plus with chambers your field doesn’t need to be as large.
@@GCFD looks like a great job especially compared to what they had
@@brentnovak2061 7k is average for here in Virginia. Sometimes a bit lower if the leach field is ok and doesn't need to be re engineered or re located
Kind of ironic picking up a septic tank at a place called "Sheetz"..
Hahah I didn't even see that! Too funny!
you shoulda used that turbo nitro virgin corrugated shitty pipe. it's nitro or something so must be good
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OMG the smell.
Can't you smell that smell?
Oh man, I feel for the homeowner. He just lost about a third of his suare footage even if it was a crappy deck.... That oak tree probably grew after the tank was installed, maybe? They might not have known the tank was there.....
Most of the time, from what I've seen, trees get planted by people who really don't know to keep the tree a good distance away from a building. Two years ago I had my apricot removed since it was only five feet from my sunroom and had roots coming under the slab foundation trying to get into the family room. The stump is over 36" across (almost 1 meter). Some of the roots are more than 8" in diameter. Great wood, but I don't burn any in my fireplace so the guy hauled it off. I suspect there was more than 8 cord of wood since the tree was over 40' tall.
The plan is to do a paver patio where the deck was, so that job will be coming up at some point.
"Ah, I bet you got a piece of terracotta stuck in there" ...ya think?
That's exactly what it was.
Why did I feel the need to hold my nose shut and not breathe in at all during the entire video? Glad I was not enjoying a meal while watching!
Good call Rick!
or tank needs to be pumped
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Need Ratty from Drain Addict
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18:40 WTF Thats all the bigger the tank is. I could fill that in a month!
Somehow, I don't think these will quite qualify as Clean Blocks at the land fill...
Not unless you pressure wash them with bleach first anyway...
Clean as in only concrete and no rebar.
@@GCFD Still, I wouldn't call that clean...
Not after I got a good whiff of them anyway...
Splat
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Normally I am impressed by your vids, but how that electrical was handled was definitely not a high moment for your channel.
That was a dead leg that was never removed.
Why not just fill in the old tank leave it forget about it?
You could definitely do that. Here, the old tank was in the location we wanted the new one, so it had to go.
Thank god this video doesn't have smell-o-vision. 🤢
😂😂😂
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Shit makes things happen .
For sure!
What a nightmare for the home owner. To go from a roto-router job to entire septic system and a new deck. At least they got great contractors.
I agree...at least we were able to get the job done on the homeowner's time and in great weather. Sometimes taking care of a potential problem on your own time is easier than sitting on a ticking time bomb! Great comment Ray!
A Shit Job, literally. But well executed.
How could I have improved upon the job?
@@GCFD Apologies, but you missed the irony of My Comment. It was not a Criticism of your work, which I thought was “well executed”.
@@Blackwater_House lol
The word "SHIT" is an acronym that came out of old, old England...prior to the invention of the engine, back when cargo was transported by sailing ships. SHIT = 'S'hip 'H'igh 'In' 'T'ransport. What? Manure was a commodity transported by sailing ships, back before the engine was invented. When manure got wet...it made a stinking mess. So the sailors hung the bags of manure on the walls and ceilings of the ship...thus the invention of the word SHIT. The F word came out of the Catholic church...'F'or 'U'nauthorized 'C'arnal 'K'nowledge...another acronym!
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I can smell this video. 😬🤢
Disturbing video warning 🤮
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What a shitty job. HA
Your a foundation guy why are you doing septic tanks ?