The Smartest Hitters In Baseball History

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  • @madethecut
    @madethecut  Год назад +14

    Use code MTC50 to get 50% off your first Factor box at bit.ly/3MWvAfD!

    • @jeffphillips1832
      @jeffphillips1832 Год назад +1

      Gwynn was the last player to come close to batting .400 not Brett. Gwynn hit .394 in 1994.

    • @Harapan162
      @Harapan162 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeffphillips1832 he said full 1994 was strike shortened

    • @jeffphillips1832
      @jeffphillips1832 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Harapan162 if you compare the number of at bats they are pretty close.

    • @Harapan162
      @Harapan162 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jeffphillips1832 i know but thats his reasoning

  • @AllThingsGreat579
    @AllThingsGreat579 Год назад +250

    I'd like to see Vlad Guerrero. I read somewhere once that Vlad sometimes didn't even know the name of the opposing pitcher and did very little prep. He was a fascinating talent.

    • @user-hn9qw7ou8d
      @user-hn9qw7ou8d Год назад +19

      Yes, he possessed about as much raw talent as any baseball player I have ever seen. His son has the same gifts.

    • @spoonsz
      @spoonsz Год назад +3

      I was going to comment the same thing his average and eye arnt anywhere close to these guys but vlad could turn a curve ball in the dirt and hit it out of the park and that in itself to me is more impressive then these hitters he listed

    • @riltalk4055
      @riltalk4055 Год назад +16

      @@spoonsz Vlad’s avg which is .318, is higher than Bonds, Brett, Ichiro and Votto.

    • @spoonsz
      @spoonsz Год назад +5

      @@riltalk4055 does not surprise me I only remember him from his A's days but when I was a kid I absolutely loved watching him bat actually used his batting stance in real life as a kid 😂

    • @r4v4g3r
      @r4v4g3r Год назад +2

      @@spoonsz As an Orioles fan his time on the Orioles cemented him as my favorite player ever.

  • @Cindoreye
    @Cindoreye Год назад

    Even as a lifelong Yankee fan, Tony Gwynn might be my favorite player. He was simply phenomenal.

  • @patrickgoodman4576
    @patrickgoodman4576 Год назад

    Nice MTC ok for part 2 (no particular order)
    Edgar Martinez
    Rogers Hornsby
    Stan Musial
    Hank Aaron
    Ty Cobb

  • @1rwjwith
    @1rwjwith 6 месяцев назад

    Young hitters should watch this video. They should pay close attention to the HANDS and mechanics of the swings of all these hitters but WILLIAMS AND GWYNN in particular…even though they are kind of opposite in a way…Williams a power hitter who pulled the ball and Gwynn a spray hitter there are some similar mechanics going on.

  • @Figwumberton
    @Figwumberton Год назад +99

    One of the craziest stats for me about Tony Gwynn is that in his 20 year career, he hit more doubles than he struck out. 543 doubles, 434 strike outs. Just insane.

    • @BluesImprov
      @BluesImprov Год назад +4

      Stan "The Man" Musial also had more doubles than strikeouts. . .But Stan seems very forgotten these days.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад +2

      @@BluesImprov
      Stan played at a time with considerably lower strikeouts, maybe fifty percent of today. Gwynn played in the 1980s and 1990s when strikeouts were only about 15 or 20 percent lower.

    • @MarcoLopez-dt7lq
      @MarcoLopez-dt7lq 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@BluesImprovgreat player but different Era

    • @drewskij2175
      @drewskij2175 6 месяцев назад +2

      So did;
      Bill Buckner
      Joe Sewell
      Nellie Fox
      Frankie Frisch
      Joe DiMaggio
      and gobs of other players
      Shoot, Sweet Willie Keeler, my man had more triples than strikeouts

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад

      Agreed. He was just super special. One of the coolest and beloved player of our time.

  • @TurdFergusson318
    @TurdFergusson318 Год назад +219

    The saddest thing about Barry Bonds his career is he didn’t need to cheat. He would’ve been a first ballot Hall of Famer no matter what.

    • @bradleymcdaniel7915
      @bradleymcdaniel7915 Год назад +20

      If he had stayed on track, he would have gotten 3000 hits and 500 homers... and probably played 2 or 3 more seasons

    • @helgaratbone1691
      @helgaratbone1691 Год назад +4

      Im not so certain.

    • @krolik1157
      @krolik1157 Год назад +19

      Bill James said that Bonds was the best player of the 1990s, and that the gap between #2 and #10 was smaller than the one between Bonds and the #2 player. And he was skinny through the ‘90s.

    • @ethanweeter2732
      @ethanweeter2732 Год назад +2

      @@krolik1157Except I am not sure he was number one by a mile either.

    • @krolik1157
      @krolik1157 Год назад +14

      @@ethanweeter2732 well that changes everything

  • @trsetere12
    @trsetere12 Год назад +39

    Edgar Martinez deserves to be included. He ended up with a .312/.418/.512 career slash and more walks than strikeouts. He also smashed doubles to every corner of the park. OBP machine year after year.

    • @nacoran
      @nacoran Год назад +4

      And Boggs.

  • @mikebrase5161
    @mikebrase5161 Год назад +195

    1989 I was 14 years old. My whole time in Little League i was a mediocre underachiever at the plate. Late that summer i watched this week in baseball with Tony Gwynn as the guest. He showed how he took 300 cuts a day everyday off the T. 100 inside, 100 outside, 100 straight away. When the next season rolled around i hit .400 which id never done before and hit 4 homeruns during a 21 game season then hit two more including a Grand slam to win a game in the state tournament. I dont think id have done that had i not seen that episode and talked my Pop into getting me a batting T. Tony Gwynn will always be my hero.

    • @aidenbrulotte1723
      @aidenbrulotte1723 Год назад +7

      Damn, you have way more pop than me, I am 14 now batting .700 with only one home run, but it was on an extremely tiny field, I don’t ever strikeout, it would be nice to have as much pop as you had.

    • @jameskasselman8503
      @jameskasselman8503 Год назад +4

      Love your story!!! Thank you for sharing. I never worked that much on a tee... But I tried to get my inside, central, and out side swings in on soft toss. I'm the reason you see signage of "do not hit balls against fence. We dented the fence so badly that in an attempt to reverse the damage we hit from the other side of the fence. Hitting soft toss into a convex chain link fence added too much extra ball shagging to really get a good work out in

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Год назад +3

      @@jameskasselman8503 my Dad came up with a fix. He used a drill press and drilled a hole through a baseball and tied a piece of nylon rope to the ball and wrapped it around the neck of the batting T.

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Год назад +4

      @@aidenbrulotte1723 ever hear, they don't make them like they used too? Easton achieved perfection with the 34/31 Black Magic bat. They stopped making them in the early to mid 90's. The other part of the story I left out was I discovered weight lifting over that summer as well.

    • @gumpotronic
      @gumpotronic Год назад +3

      If I read this bullshit story one more time on social media, I'm going hunting.

  • @paulmayfield4554
    @paulmayfield4554 Год назад +36

    Did we forget Miguel Cabrera? Miggy is famous for changing his stance and swing mid plate appearance. He played mind games with pitchers.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Год назад +3

      As a newer, casual fan who watched some late 2000s Indians, I think Miggy is probably misremembered as an overweight 1B/DH type power hitter in the mold of Fielder Jr and others around that era. Having taken an interest in stats I was surprised to see that Miggy was a god-tier hitter for almost 20 seasons with a consistently elite BA and OBP while having modest HR rates. He seems hugely underrated and almost forgotten in a thinly-vieled attempt to hype current stars that value walks over hits.
      I was very surprised the first time I saw his bbref page and how little he's talked about in relation to the best players of the 2000s and 2010s. I'm sure playing for the Tigers didn't help along with the WAR penalty for his position(s).

    • @2nerdsinhell
      @2nerdsinhell Год назад +4

      @@Demoralized88Uhh… how is averaging over 33 home runs a season for his first THIRTEEN SEASONS considered modest in any way whatsoever?

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Год назад +1

      @@2nerdsinhell Because it was modest to what he could've hit if he wanted to? He could've easily hit 50HR/season but wisely didn't want to sacrifice his BA and OBP. Modest does not mean bad and is not necessarilly negative. 33HR/yr is obviously good, but he wasn't that archetype like a Pujols.

    • @tokivikerness8863
      @tokivikerness8863 Год назад +3

      Miggy is certainly exceptional but doesn't belong here

    • @Polack-ml9fh
      @Polack-ml9fh Год назад +6

      @@tokivikerness8863oh Christ, I’d take prime miggy over a prime votto any day.

  • @derick-smith
    @derick-smith Год назад +25

    Boggs, Pujols and Rod freaking Carew need to be in a part 2 for sure. Not enough love for Carew in here!

    • @northstarjakobs
      @northstarjakobs Год назад +2

      I mean... the AL batting title is named for Rod Carew the way that the national league title is named for Tony Gwynn. He absolutely needs some attention.

    • @PinballBob1
      @PinballBob1 Год назад

      Carew being a singles hitter hurts his fame a bit. We like the long ball. Plus, he played for a secondary market team.

    • @christopherbarney8424
      @christopherbarney8424 Год назад

      I'd like to add Nomar to that list. Ted williams himself called Nomar his heir apparent. It sucks to think about what could've been and what Should've been with Nomar.

    • @aviecenna8579
      @aviecenna8579 8 месяцев назад

      And Ty Cobb for the old timers

    • @TheGotoGeek
      @TheGotoGeek 3 месяца назад

      That was my first thought.

  • @markveals2915
    @markveals2915 Год назад +29

    Loved watching Tony Gwynn while living in San Diego in the 1980s to the early 90s. Such a great man who left us far too soon.

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад

      One of my favorite athletes. One to emulate. Never forget that smile and laugh. A remarkable man.

  • @NOLAchop92
    @NOLAchop92 Год назад +30

    I'm interested if Arraez can continue this Gwynn-like approach with similar success at the plate. To me there will never be another equal to Mr. Padre but Luis Arraez is about as close as we'll ever get.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад

      Honestly, I’d be psyched if we just see another .400 hitter and Arraez seems to be the best option.

    • @davidbayliss4415
      @davidbayliss4415 Год назад

      Love Arraez - have since he broke with the Twins

    • @blackestknightx8881
      @blackestknightx8881 Месяц назад

      ​@@davidbayliss4415seems overrated

  • @shanesnell1049
    @shanesnell1049 Год назад +12

    How is Pete Rose not on this list? That’s unbelievable

    • @ronnieberryman573
      @ronnieberryman573 Год назад

      All time hits leader, I agree 💯

    • @daviddmitchell
      @daviddmitchell Год назад

      Fuckin unbelievable , rose not even an honorable mention

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад +1

      Great hitter, but not really in the same league as far as hitting excellence compared to Gwynn or Williams.

    • @JtBaxter-pb9ij
      @JtBaxter-pb9ij 3 месяца назад +1

      Are you trying to piss Kane off??!! For the love of God don’t!😂

    • @thomaslemon3971
      @thomaslemon3971 Месяц назад

      @@davidfeltz8697 I think what’s interesting about Rose is that he kinda just WILLED himself to be a good ball player. Wasn’t naturally a super talented guy nor a hitting technician. It was just sheer willpower to do his best. Ol’ Charlie Hustle!

  • @a-a-ron3542
    @a-a-ron3542 Год назад +51

    I'd suggest Ken Griffey Jr. I seem to recall Jay Buhner once saying that Jr. took 500 cuts a day off the tee, and in a hitting instructional video, Jr. talks about having a simplified swing and hitting the ball in front so it can't break. He had a unique approach, and possibly the best swing of all time.

    • @rockstarperformance
      @rockstarperformance Год назад +2

      My dad bought one of those instructional videos that Jr made when he started coaching my team in junior high. He also bought the Instructo Swing product from the video that Jr designed (or just used? I can't remember) to teach that nice simple swing. I thought it was going to be a waste of money like one of those as seen on TV kind of things, but I have never encountered anything else that was as effective in doing what it was designed to do. Every player on our team improved their batting average by at least 50 points that season. I don't know whether Jr studied pitchers like some of these other guys, but he had swing efficiency figured out like no one before or since.

    • @a-a-ron3542
      @a-a-ron3542 Год назад

      @@rockstarperformance I remember those! I watched the hell out of them, but never really managed to put it into efficacious usage. I was really young, and just was enamored with watching Jr. talk baseball. I remember his bits on having your knuckles lined up, taking a small stride, but the rest was a bit over my head as a 7 year old.

    • @andrewsmith3257
      @andrewsmith3257 5 месяцев назад

      Better swing than Ted Williams? Both were pretty damn good and had a beautiful swing

    • @a-a-ron3542
      @a-a-ron3542 4 месяца назад

      @@andrewsmith3257 Ted very literally wrote the book on swing mechanics, so I know that my take is a little controversial, but when I watch them, it still looks to me like Williams is trying to hit the ball hard. Jr. just looks like he's taking warm-up cuts in BP, and then it sails 500+ feet.

  • @logan2811
    @logan2811 Год назад +28

    Big brain hit big

  • @edsteadham4085
    @edsteadham4085 Год назад +5

    Stan Musial was one of the great smart hitters. Asked how to hit the curve ball he said stay back stay back stay back.....and then knock the shit out of it! I could have used that advice years ago!

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад

      My favorite legends. Quietly good and like Gwynn widely adored and loved. Stan's stats are absolutely jaw dropping.

  • @HT-sm9dm
    @HT-sm9dm Год назад +7

    Frank Thomas. He was the 1990s version of Albert Pujols. Absolute genius and monster at the plate with the size and power of Giancarlo Stanton/Aaron Judge while maintaining top notch plate vision and discipline.

    • @Crush_Tiggrr
      @Crush_Tiggrr Год назад +1

      Right on. Frank Thomas and Pete rose should definitely be featured. It’s amazing to think that Frank played so much of his career injured and still put up such amazing numbers. Almost no one compares to Frank at his prime.

  • @woundedcrow4606
    @woundedcrow4606 Год назад +9

    Part two, Pete Rose for sure. Robin Ventura didn’t waste too many at bats either. Bill Mueller. Lots of catchers. If this were a “smartest pitcher” essay I’d recommend a low key baseball genius; Rick Sutcliffe.

  • @Throawei
    @Throawei Год назад +7

    Ichiro would've prob had 5000 hits if he was in the league at 18 or 20.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Год назад +2

      Yeah, but that's very rare in the modern era along with 20+ year careers. Doesn't really matter though when nobody takes Rose's career seriously anymore.

  • @mattfig2924
    @mattfig2924 Год назад +10

    I had a coach growing up who played minor league ball with Tony Gwynn and you could tell the way he talked about him he was in awe of everything he said and took it all in. RIP to a legend

  • @jameskasselman8503
    @jameskasselman8503 Год назад +7

    I had to pause this to say that we need it to be more broadly known that a 27 yr old Ichiro won a rookie of the Year and MVP in the same season. We also need to know that he is not a late bloomer. He has over 4k hits. All of them need to be respected as professional hits. As a Professional Baseball Hall of Famer, you can't dismiss Japanese pro ball from MLB. If y'all want that, call it the MLB HoF. Not Professional Baseball HoF

    • @ethanweeter2732
      @ethanweeter2732 Год назад

      Yes, but we don’t count the Japanese hits in America.

    • @edwardfessenden9490
      @edwardfessenden9490 Год назад +1

      You can't? Is MLB not a higher level?

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад

      Jackie Robinson is underrated for a similar reason-he was 28 when he debuted and only started playing pro ball two years earlier.

  • @Pwj579
    @Pwj579 7 месяцев назад +2

    The fact that Greg Maddux "The Professor" couldn't strike out Tony Gwynn in 170 at-bats is a testament to Gwynn's mastery of the game.

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад

      They were quite chummy too. I live that quote by Maddux about Gwynn. Mad respect

  • @rodneyscott7108
    @rodneyscott7108 Год назад +13

    I thoroughly enjoyed the video.
    After watching it, I decided to do some reading about Joey Votto, who I didn’t really know anything about.
    In the article about him, I came across a really funny quote of his about himself and other great hitters that I want to share.
    Back during the 2016 season, he told an interviewer:
    “”Until Trout came into the league, I thought every year that I would be in the conversation for best player in the game. And he fucked that up for everybody, Babe Ruth and Ted Williams included. He’s ruining it for everyone.”
    If there is a Hall of Fame for best baseball quotes, I would nominate this one.
    So while I don’t have any suggestions for hitters to include in the next video, it certainly sounds like Mr. Votto has some thoughts on the subject.
    And he has surely earned the right to have his opinion respected.
    Great video. Thanks for all your work.

  • @allainangcao28
    @allainangcao28 Год назад +4

    Ichiro hitting is like watching Bob Ross paint, somehow, someway, he can picture the gaps in the infield, flick his bat, and the ball would go through every time. He was also a master of the zone, he would take pitches most sluggers would swing at in a heartbeat.

    • @SvendleBerries
      @SvendleBerries 9 месяцев назад

      Ichiro was always amazing and weird to watch. His swing was almost lazy looking the way he would just wave the bat over the plate only for the ball to find a gap somewhere lol If this were a video game I'd say he was using an aimbot lol

  • @zeldacomm
    @zeldacomm Год назад +6

    Does it also help to be a leftie? All six of these hitters were

    • @adamk4733
      @adamk4733 Год назад

      Yea that’s what I thought too

    • @user-hn9qw7ou8d
      @user-hn9qw7ou8d Год назад +2

      Being a left-handed hitter makes it easier to hit off of right-handed pitchers (and vice versa). Since there are more right-handed pitchers, left-handed hitters have it slightly easier than right-handed hitters.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Год назад

      Sure does statistically but I struggle to understand why the difference is so big. I suppose because opposite hand has the ball trajectory coming more straight down the plate versus a very slight angle away from the batter for same handed matchups. This, in turn, possibly means more solid contact for balls coming directly perpendicular to the bat?

    • @user-hn9qw7ou8d
      @user-hn9qw7ou8d Год назад

      @@Demoralized88 Former D1 baseball player here (not trying to make an argument from authority. Just letting you know that I know from experience). The reason it is easier to hit off of a pitcher who throws with the opposite hand (relative to the side of the plate from which you are batting) is because it is significantly easier to make an adjustment on a breaking ball (curveball, slider, sweeper, cutter, etc) that is breaking towards your body as opposed to breaking away from your body. I have heard people mention other reasons (such as it being easier to track the ball from the opposite hand), but the reason I mentioned is the advantage I noticed the most in my playing days.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Год назад

      @@user-hn9qw7ou8d This makes sense intuitiviely. I think this is because, like I said, opposite hand pitches are almost perfectly perpendicular and therefor it's much easier to guage horizontal movement versus the slight angle of same handed pitching. Also, given the rarity of left-handedness, I have to presume that they're slightly worse pitchers overall minus a few unicorns.

  • @andrewcarroll7641
    @andrewcarroll7641 Год назад +6

    Barry Bonds smashing home runs in the early 2000's was must see TV. He either walked or hit a home run. The kind of hitter that make any pitcher reconsider his choice of occupation.

  • @Whocares-z6v
    @Whocares-z6v Год назад +8

    From 1988 and on, Tony Gwynn only put a 3-0 pitch in play 9 times 🤯 that's a man who's committed to the baseball textbook

    • @ethanweeter2732
      @ethanweeter2732 Год назад

      Probably why he had high OBP and few HRs though, but if he was laying off bad pitches than that is the sign of a great hitter.

  • @dsigs
    @dsigs Год назад +4

    I thought Tony was closest to .400 since Ted with .394 in 94? They named a beer after it

  • @Extinguisher10
    @Extinguisher10 Год назад +2

    If Edgar isn't on this list we riot!

  • @kevinfleming9423
    @kevinfleming9423 Год назад +3

    A writer tells you Barry Bonds was a cheat but he never tested positive for steroids yet because you don't like him you go along with the lie. Mr Bonds was and is the best hitter I've ever witnessed I'm baseball. He not only hit for average, but also for power which is very rare in baseball and let's not forget he also had a glove and arm. He was a very rare and unique specimen.

    • @flame-sky7148
      @flame-sky7148 Год назад

      Yea it's really a sad commentary by mainstream media. You have this situation in which MLB doesn't agree to test for steroids until 2004. Players like Bonds, Clemens and McGwire came into the league in the mid 80's and there they were dominating. Then by the near end of their careers they don't test positive or in McGwire's case, you don't even take a test and somehow your whole career is cheat. They didn't do this with players who took greenies. If there was testing in place early on, this wouldn't have been an issue.

    • @queifjay
      @queifjay 11 месяцев назад

      Barry Bonds can easily be the best hitter you've ever witnessed. Everyone else with eyeballs clearly witnessed his physical transformation aided by PEDs. You can acknowledge his insane baseball acumen and talent without having to deny that he used steroids. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

  • @user-hn9qw7ou8d
    @user-hn9qw7ou8d Год назад +3

    Apparently right-handed hitters aren’t smart?

  • @christopherguyor3314
    @christopherguyor3314 Год назад +2

    Gwynn, Williams, Votto, Ichiro, Brett and Bonds. All great hitters... and all lefties. All, with the exception of Williams, modern ballplayers. The only one I'd argue about is Votto... not that he's not a great hitter... but how does his .297 lifetime average and 2095 hits get him ahead of Miguel Cabrera, who has a lifetime .307 and 3118 hits? Miggy is a marvel who hits to all fields, like Votto, and does it better. Maybe this should have been the smartest lefties in history (Although, then you'd also have to include Ty Cobb, Stan Musial and Babe Ruth). But let's talk some of the righties who should be here... Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Honus Wagner and Al Kaline, to name a few. Still a good watch, though.

  • @adamdavis2760
    @adamdavis2760 Год назад +3

    I put Ted over Tony all day.....The man was able to come back and play at the major league level after missing nearly half a decade of his PRIME Not to mention he didn't have a video machine in the dug out to go over his at bats over and over again....He just watched pitchers...in fact he watched everyone....I saw in an interview years ago he said something along the lines of " I learned from everyone around me just by paying attention ....What that man could have done with a picture box in the runway haha....Tony had a career ops of .847 while Teds was 1.116 2nd highest career OPS of all time. He has a higher career average and actually did hit 406 in a season. Ted had 200 more walks in his career than he had career RBIS and had 1300 more walks than Tony. Ted had a career OBP of 482 while Tony was a 388....not that it has much to do wth hitting but Ted was 9 points away from doubling Tonys career WAR. I loved Tony growing up in the 80s and 90s but he was no Splendid Splinter. PS John Olerud and Edgar Martinez were two of the best hitters I saw coming up back in the day

    • @willzavala6379
      @willzavala6379 Год назад

      Ted Williams is the greatest hitter ever (along with Ruth and we'll never know about Bonds). Who's comparing Tony to Ted?

  • @Jabbersac
    @Jabbersac Год назад +2

    13:29 "The closest any player has come to hitting .400 since Ted Williams hit .406 in 1941" Dude you literally just talked about Tony Gwynn earliier in the video, how did you forget

  • @bloodwrage
    @bloodwrage Год назад +2

    Bonds didn't have to cheat to be great. It's a shame. Now he will live in infamy

  • @TX_BoomSlang
    @TX_BoomSlang Год назад +1

    I was at George Brett's final game at Arlington stadium and he hit the ball right up the middle in his last career at bat. It was an easy out, but the Rangers infielders allowed him on base out of respect for the all-time great.

  • @ticnatz
    @ticnatz Год назад +3

    You mentioned Musial, but he was not included. He should be. I hope Votto makes it to Cooperstown.....

  • @trutty
    @trutty Год назад +2

    Best switch hitters of all time would be a cool video

  • @poggerrizzskibidi
    @poggerrizzskibidi Год назад +3

    First

  • @trofl
    @trofl Год назад +12

    If Mauer hadn't been so sidetracked by injuries, he'd probably be here too.

    • @c.v.emmans
      @c.v.emmans Год назад +2

      Mauer was so fun to watch. He would just take pitch after pitch so he and the team could see more arm angles, more movement on breaking pitches, more differences between each pitch. He'd look at where each fielder was and he was so good at taking what the pitcher was giving him, unafraid to put a ball on the ground or go the opposite way, things so many batters seemed reluctant to do. It really is too bad about the injuries. He changed what it was even possible to expect from the position that he played.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Год назад +2

    Votto came back yesterday. He lived up to the hype.

  • @TheNinergeek
    @TheNinergeek Год назад +5

    I knew Tony Gwinn would be #1

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад +1

      Hn Kruk said, as soon as her Met T. Gwynn it was ridiculous how much better he was than everyone else. These guys were great frie,friends, and were roommates. Tony is one of the most respected snd widely lived players of our time. He was soooo good and just so fucking cool.

  • @bigjared8946
    @bigjared8946 Год назад +6

    Gwynn was the best pure hit the ball hitter I ever saw. Boggs was a great hitter at Fenway but merely solid to average elsewhere.

    • @Polack-ml9fh
      @Polack-ml9fh Год назад +1

      Boggs was average?

    • @bigjared8946
      @bigjared8946 Год назад

      @@Polack-ml9fh
      When not at Fenway? Yes, though I said solid to average with solid being a solid tick above average. His numbers elsewhere are what they are. Check the Baseball Reference if you disbelieve.

    • @ShepherdMetalBand
      @ShepherdMetalBand Год назад +1

      Boggs batted over .300 4xs for the Yankees. His career batting average was .328 and his career Obp was .415!!!!

  • @HT-sm9dm
    @HT-sm9dm Год назад +2

    Manny Ramirez. Way more than just a power threat and bad fielder. An absolute demon at the plate.

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад

      I agree. Manny was a great student of hitting. Check him out on RUclips. Literally a how to in.hitting mechanics. One of the sw÷test swing in our time. But his mechanics were so consistently good. Dude could rake to all fields. Really fun to watch in the batters box

  • @ralphus44
    @ralphus44 Год назад +2

    1. Tony Gwynn - HALL OF FAMER
    2. Ted Williams - HALL OF FAMER
    3. Joey Votto - FUTURE HALL OF FAMER
    4. Ichiro Suzuki - FUTURE HALL OF FAMER
    5. George Brett - HALL OF FAMER
    6. Barry Bonds - CHEATER

  • @presleyrules
    @presleyrules Год назад +2

    Ty Cobb, with a career .367 batting average and 12 batting titles, had to be the smartest hitter ever!

    • @willzavala6379
      @willzavala6379 Год назад +1

      But no film. Another reason why this not The Smartest Video about Hitters.

    • @milliesboy666
      @milliesboy666 9 месяцев назад

      Joe Sewell was the greatest contact hitter ever

  • @JoeSanders25
    @JoeSanders25 Год назад +1

    I’m confused. You say Ted Williams missed 5 years. Yet show his baseballref which shows 3 years missed surrounded by full seasons. Why? 2 years is a lot. Damn near doubled the time he actually served in the military to make his numbers sound better for no reason.

  • @rjcolombe
    @rjcolombe Год назад +1

    Would love to see anither list like this, including Boggs, Gehrig, Guerrero Sr., Griffey, and Larry Walker.

  • @krosnest0713
    @krosnest0713 Год назад +1

    Ted Williams is 100%.
    He wrote a book hitters still use and read. Every great hitter always went to Williams when he was alive to talk or try to talk to him for hitting

  • @michaeltaylor4271
    @michaeltaylor4271 Год назад +1

    Hahaha I like how Ted Williams blamed the shift for him not getting .2 or .3 extra on his batting average, what did he expect? The other teams to just let him hit it there? The others team job is the stop you and they did that with the shift, the way he said it, it came off as that is almost cheating in his eyes and I think it’s smart baseball.. it’s only when analytics came into play that teams started to realize they are better off using the shift for almost every batter and that’s when they ended up making the shift illegal. No joke we went from rarely ever seeing to to teams doing it multiple times a game..

  • @Patsfan973
    @Patsfan973 Год назад +1

    The Gwynn thing is interesting. I have 20/10 vision and its crazy to me how far away i can be and still read things. Never thought of it for baseball 😅

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад

      No had superhero vision. Bonds too. Plus the work they put in and honing their craft. Soooo hard to strike Tony out. It is kinda insane.

  • @richarddevine205
    @richarddevine205 Год назад +1

    Just because he is banned from the hof I don't see how Pete Rose isn't on this list. Down playing Bonds' steroid usage is akin to that it's fair for men trans athletes to dominate women's sports. You do understand that Bonds used so much steroids that his body wouldn't heal right anymore?

  • @bryanzzz748
    @bryanzzz748 Год назад +2

    if Ted Williams had been playing baseball today, he’d be an advanced metric obsesssive

  • @genoinjian7729
    @genoinjian7729 Год назад +1

    MLB knew everyone was using steroids and profited off it. Bonds was just used as the scape goat for mlb.

  • @ryanwaslawski6088
    @ryanwaslawski6088 Год назад +1

    Smartest hitter ever was obviously Barry Bonds. He was probably already the best in the game then decided he wanted to be even better so did steroids and smashed every record. Smart choices.

  • @yammie75
    @yammie75 Год назад +2

    Per the next part of this series, may I suggest Kirby Puckett and Paul Molitor? (Wade Boggs, too, please)

  • @finessecurve2651
    @finessecurve2651 Год назад +1

    I think Victor Martinez was one of the best modern players at NOT striking out looking

    • @HT-sm9dm
      @HT-sm9dm Год назад

      Yes he is so underrated

  • @underhandcloud1414
    @underhandcloud1414 Год назад +4

    Albert Pujols would be great for a part 2. He would hit soft toss and off a tee every day and would constantly watch film of not only his own swing but of pitchers to pick up on every little intricacy in their delivery’s to get an edge

    • @daryldixon3685
      @daryldixon3685 Год назад

      He was Amazing!

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад

      It really sucks how bad his knees got. Dude went from stealing 20 bases some years to being the slowest player in baseball within a few years.

    • @johnporter4628
      @johnporter4628 4 месяца назад

      @@warlordofbritannia I don't think he ever stole 20, though he did steal more than you'd expect for a guy his size who, even when young, wasn't particularly fast. He was an intelligent base runner who picked his spots and took advantage when the pitcher wasn't paying attention. He was also a very good fielding first baseman for a number of years before his mobility declined.

  • @davepangburn
    @davepangburn Год назад +2

    MADE THE CUT: "...regardless of where you come down on the Steroid Issue, Barry Bonds...". Okay, I'm going to take some of the air out of that sentence serving as part of the premise for the Content Creator's discussion of the topic. Reality: there are two Barry Bonds. Pre-PED Bonds 1986-1998 & juiced-up Bonds 1999-2007. When you mention Bond's career statistics, it is strongly advisable to SPLIT them between those distinct timelines for clearer understanding. In my opinion it's lazy & clumsy methodology to combine them as a single Career-whole IF you mean to use those as a single tool of comparison against others or history. If you lump in the artificially-inflated performance or stats, you know there is a significant percentage from the sums of 1999-2007 period tainted as disingenuous. Thus compromising the integrity of the whole from what Bonds was legitimately accumulating before 1999. As the example cited in the video, Bonds lifetime .444 OBP. If a chunk of that OBP was derived from PED-use from that segment of his career, does he genuinely have the 6th-best career OBP ever to cite as a tool of comparison? In the shallowest sense, yeah. If you don't want to do the work to look beyond a 1st-glance at numbers on a page, not bother digging deeper.
    As too his success at not striking out much, being able to be selective despite early strikes in an at-bat, please, please remember a major factor in this success from 1999 to 2007 is not just his intelligence & vision. Both are beyond dispute. But you have to understand from '99 to '07 his ability to be patient & succeed is in overwhelming measure from artificial PED-enhancement. During a two-strike count, that PED-conditioning allowed his body to have the requisite quicker flexes & body strength to hold back his swing to the very last nano-second in order to foul off a pitch for a strike he doesn't like. And then keep waiting in the at-bat for the fat pitch he wants to drive. Or just take a Walk on four balls. There are so many great hitters through history with intelligence & vision whose hitting stats would surge if they took PED's to defy the limits of natural conditioning & aging. Despite Bond's hitter's IQ & vision, those tools only take him to certain level if there isn't the vital component of PED-enhancement allowing him the strength & reflexes to defy convention & time. What I have just said is a reminder that timing is everything in a swing. I want to point out what I think are obvious things because taking the easy way in examination still pervades Baseball culture. The whole point of the Advanced Stats revolution was to get away from the easy, the lazy, to understand the game at a deeper, more accurate level. And all of us being honest is the first, integral component to the process. It sucks that PED-users didn't have the integrity to be honest to themselves & others. But as Baseball fans & thinkers it is our responsibility & burden to be honest for them. Again, it sucks the PED-users put us all in that unenviable position. More simply put, take PED-users stats with a large grain of salt before making comparisons.
    By the way, this conversation is not meant as an attack on Barry Bonds. I think what Bond's did from 1986 to 1999 makes him an all-time great and a Hall of Famer. But what I have tried to impress with this conversation is that too often I am hearing Baseball-content Creators on RUclips (and so many Sports writers & broadcasters for that matter) uttering sentences with ease such as "well, whatever you think about Steroids with Player X, you know...", or "despite the PED's...", as cheap throw-away lines. Serving as half-hearted verbal mechanisms to move on from the PED portion of the conversation before beginning a very compromised process of method for inquiry or examination. I think integrity demands more accountability of how thorough we look into & talk about the effects of PED's upon so many facets of Baseball. Including the legacies of those who played. For discussions about the game we all love, I want better, not easy.

    • @HamsterK37
      @HamsterK37 Год назад

      Why waste all of this in the comments of RUclips? This should have been submitted to a site for broader consumption.

    • @davepangburn
      @davepangburn Год назад

      @@HamsterK37 Because this is where the content, the video, was posted.

    • @HamsterK37
      @HamsterK37 Год назад

      @@davepangburn it's too good for RUclips

  • @berndtherrenvolk1951
    @berndtherrenvolk1951 Год назад +4

    Rogers Hornsby was phenomenal in understanding HOW to hit. A recently retired Hornsby and a young Ted Williams had doctoral level conversations on hitting.

    • @PinballBob1
      @PinballBob1 Год назад

      Hornsby's vison was reputed to be extraordinary. He refused to read the newspaper before a game to "save" his eyesight for the game.

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia Год назад

      @@PinballBob1
      Not that saved him from declining hard and fast.

  • @DND_Editz627
    @DND_Editz627 4 месяца назад +1

    I think Roberto Clemente should be here. He was an all time great

  • @jareddegroot7691
    @jareddegroot7691 Год назад +1

    Lefty hitters are just so smooth man

  • @ingchatboy
    @ingchatboy 5 месяцев назад +1

    "Chemically added power to all fields"... 😂🤣😆

  • @duhbigcat1848
    @duhbigcat1848 Год назад +2

    Bonds without roids was as good as Willie Mays, Bonds on roids was on a whole another plane of existence.

  • @louies5988
    @louies5988 Год назад +1

    Steroids or not, Bonds was the most scariest hitter in MLB history

  • @aaronstreitenberger6012
    @aaronstreitenberger6012 Год назад +3

    A great rundown of some of the Best Pure Hitters in baseball history. I think OBP and bat control really stand out as the common elements of what makes a Pure Hitter. Excellent video!

  • @dtpugliese318
    @dtpugliese318 Год назад +3

    It also seems to help to be left handed. I wonder if it’s because the most likely pitchers you’ll face are righties that you’ll be able to pick up on more. So on top of vision and obsession, being left handed is another thing all those greats have in common.

    • @brycemartin69
      @brycemartin69 Год назад

      lefties also have a very natural good swing

    • @TysonHook-22-
      @TysonHook-22- Год назад

      Some currently known right handed sluggers are Aaron Judge, Mike Trout, Giancarlo Stanton, Vladdy Jr, Bo-Bichette, Pete Alonso, Mookie Betts, Trea Turner, Acuna Jr, Nick Castellanos, Julio Rodriguez, Tatis Jr, Yandy Diaz.
      But there is also many great left handed hitters in todays game of course and as brycemartin69 already alluded to, many believe lefties have the most natural and beautiful swings in baseball... but that said, some of those names I mentioned above have vary beautiful swing mechanics too.
      With the majority of pitchers being right handed and the mechanics of pitching... its no secret that lefty hitters have a natural plate advantage... "Left-handed hitters get the natural advantage of batting in their favored matchup more often. This should skew their stats higher than right-handed who are batting against their platoon advantage."
      "Statistically, left handed batters have a batting average that is 7 points higher than right handed batters - .270 for lefties, .263 for righties."
      Whats even more amazing is the great switch hitters of the game like Pete Rose and Micky Mantle, two names that easily couldve been on this list.
      Pete Rose has for sure talked about the art of hitting/switch hitting over the years and has specifically mentioned how his ability to switch hit was a big advantage to him, since its like having a secret weapon to pull out against pitchers. He also was the type of guy that would switch back and fourth just to mess with pitchers heads.

  • @mattmorgan3864
    @mattmorgan3864 Год назад +1

    The fact Miguel Cabrera isn’t on this list is disrespectful. He could put the ball wherever he wanted and hit bombshell when he needed too. One of only three players 3000 hits 500 HRs and a career 300 Avg

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Год назад

      career .300 DESPITE terrible years way past him prime that hurt his avgs. His batting stats make the bigger 'stars' look terrible. His WAR would be nuts if 1B wasn't so ridiculously penalized.

  • @rogergiroux9095
    @rogergiroux9095 Год назад +1

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Rod Carew

  • @Bryant513
    @Bryant513 Год назад +1

    How is the all time hit leader Pete Rose not on this list???

  • @DonRavioli92
    @DonRavioli92 Год назад +2

    Whats crazy to me is just how underrated Votto has been his entire career, even in Cincinnati. He's never been given the respect he deserves. IMO he's an easy HOF'er

    • @TysonHook-22-
      @TysonHook-22- Год назад

      Well he's certainly highly respected by Canadians and the Cincinnati fans love him too... theres no doubt hes been underrated and even hated through plenty of his career, but I feel thats changed a bit over the last few years... like hes came out of his shell and it made him way more likable by baseball fans league wide, i mean, hes even had a few viral video moments with fans at this point, that i think really changed peoples general perception of him.
      and just the fact that he keeps on going and going, despite his personal ups and downs and the game changing around him, hes managed to remain relevant in todays game. which is always admirable and respected among true ball fans.
      So yeah to a casual baseball fan hes still not nearly as recognizable of a name as someone like Judge, but i mean neither is Trout... If Votto or Trout played in different markets theyd for sure be way bigger names without a doubt, but with that said, among true baseball fans the name Votto is for sure respected these days.

    • @DonRavioli92
      @DonRavioli92 Год назад

      @@TysonHook-22- man you would be shocked by how many people in Cincinnati don't like him and act like his contract was a terrible mistake. The reason these people aren't very apparent online is because they're mostly 45+ year olds. They seem to think he has no shot at the HOF, they say he was overpaid (which is hilarious when you look at the list of players who are paid about the same or more since he signed his contract). They've always said he "takes too many walks." I've never seen any other player get so much criticism for getting on base.
      I love the Reds and Cincinnati but there are some very ignorant fans here

    • @DonRavioli92
      @DonRavioli92 Год назад

      @@TysonHook-22- however I do very much appreciate the respect, especially from a Cardinals fan. I feel like the animosity has greatly cooled down over the past decade. Probably helps that Molina and Phillips are no longer on both teams lol.

  • @conedx
    @conedx Год назад +1

    votto returned to the reds last night. of course he hit a home run and went 2 for 3 with a walk. in his first major league game in NEARLY A YEAR.

  • @ranger053
    @ranger053 Год назад +3

    You better check Rod Carew!

    • @5UserName0
      @5UserName0 3 месяца назад

      Rod Carew was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1991. 3053 career hits, .328 lifetime batting average, seven batting titles and 18 All Star games.

  • @vader_OG
    @vader_OG Год назад +1

    miguel cabrera needs to be in this video…

  • @danejurus69
    @danejurus69 Год назад +1

    Luis Arraez has a better eye than Gwynn. 😲

  • @Polack-ml9fh
    @Polack-ml9fh Год назад +1

    I enjoyed your list, but votto? Votto over Boggs? What about Musial? I’m just not sold on votto.

    • @Demoralized88
      @Demoralized88 Год назад

      Votto is the Westbrook of the MLB. Same as Soto.

  • @kthkthkth
    @kthkthkth Год назад +8

    Pete Rose should probably feature in a part 2.

    • @darrinlindsey
      @darrinlindsey Год назад

      With all due respect for Pete Rose. The biggest factor in he being the hit leader, was the fact that he played 27 seasons.

  • @johnf1235
    @johnf1235 Год назад +1

    “Nobody has been able to even touch Gwynn’s .397 average”
    Arraez: Hold my beer

  • @luis_exotics
    @luis_exotics Год назад +1

    Barry Bonds is the GOAT, period.

  • @TONY45066
    @TONY45066 Год назад +1

    Take Votto out of this and add Stan Musial

  • @rhysmason2330
    @rhysmason2330 Год назад +1

    RIP Mr. Padre. Absolute legend

  • @shaindaman13
    @shaindaman13 Год назад +4

    Everyone always forgets about the great Brett Butler. He could slap it around with the best of em!

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Год назад

      Brett Butler was the best drag bunter I've ever seen.

    • @mikelmart
      @mikelmart Год назад

      I've never heard great and Brett Butler mentioned in the same sentence. Good player, not great.

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Год назад +1

      @@mikelmart best drag bunter I've ever seen. I didn't say he was great but he was the spark plug that got on base for the Giants back in '89. The only guy on this list who did it better was Ichiro. I'm not a Giants fan either so I'm not fan girling just stating what I saw with my own eyes.

    • @mikelmart
      @mikelmart Год назад +1

      @@mikebrase5161 Good player, long career. The type of player every team needed if they wanted to be successful.

  • @ianyoung8147
    @ianyoung8147 Год назад +2

    Lou Brock, Rickey Henderson, Stan Musial, Pete Rose.
    Do a series on the Smartest Pitchers as well.

    • @ImAlxxy
      @ImAlxxy Год назад

      Ricky is somehow seemingly forgotten in modern times or mislabeled as only a base stealer

    • @BluesImprov
      @BluesImprov Год назад

      Musial is always forgotten by young guys and these lists.

  • @ldotflock2780
    @ldotflock2780 Год назад +1

    Sotto will be the best hitter of all time.

  • @ShepherdMetalBand
    @ShepherdMetalBand Год назад +2

    Wade Boggs deserves a nod

  • @thetexanshurtme
    @thetexanshurtme Год назад +1

    I love how all the hitters on this list are lefties

  • @rainbowshadow5486
    @rainbowshadow5486 Год назад +2

    hi

  • @HeismanBehren
    @HeismanBehren Год назад +1

    Juan Soto will be here in the future

  • @spoonsz
    @spoonsz Год назад +1

    Great video as a royals fan appreciate Brett making the list. But you have to have Vladimir Guerrero on this list. Nobody could turn a perfect pitch over the wall like him

  • @sethboyd9877
    @sethboyd9877 Год назад +1

    Freddie freeman is an insane hitter…

  • @blakecscott5525
    @blakecscott5525 Год назад +1

    Brett is my all time favorite player, and it is good to see Votto getting a little recognition. But not all smart batters are left handed man… how about DiMaggio, Edgar Martinez, the shamefully underrated Frank Thomas, or even Miguel Cabrera??? There needs to be at least 1 righty, after all they’ve got farther to run…

  • @JesseMiller-x4s
    @JesseMiller-x4s Год назад +1

    My grandpa went to high school with Ted in Chula Vista, I believe. In San Diego nonetheless. Pretty cool story.

    • @willzavala6379
      @willzavala6379 Год назад

      I'm from Chula Vista. Ted went to Hoover High, I believe, which is in San Diego.

    • @JesseMiller-x4s
      @JesseMiller-x4s Год назад

      @@willzavala6379 Yep

  • @duhbigcat1848
    @duhbigcat1848 Год назад +1

    Great list. Those are my favorite professors of hitting.

  • @michaelbaucom4019
    @michaelbaucom4019 Год назад +3

    Also:
    Willie Mays
    Pete Rose
    Ty Cobb
    Stan Musial
    Henry Aaron
    Rod Carew

  • @thelegendaryrcn7267
    @thelegendaryrcn7267 Год назад +1

    you missed rod carew.

  • @ChrisClaybern
    @ChrisClaybern Год назад +1

    No pete rose!?!? The hit king. Glaring omission!

    • @davidfeltz8697
      @davidfeltz8697 4 месяца назад

      Was do to.longevity. phenomenal snd versatile player, but his approach at the plate is not equal to Tony or Ted.

  • @saintsman2010
    @saintsman2010 2 дня назад

    My dad was the one who helped Tony Gwynn set up the whole vhs system. My dad became the first "video coach" for the Padres

  • @marcstanard2425
    @marcstanard2425 Год назад +1

    Where's Rod Carew?

  • @ryankay5097
    @ryankay5097 Год назад +1

    Edgar Martinez was an underrated superstar. Hell of a batter