Battery Energy Revolution. What now?
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Battery energy storage is already shaking up the automotive industry. But developers are constantly looking for ways to increase energy density, decrease battery pack weight, and add range to their vehicles. It's not just car makers though. The aviation industry is watching progress on battery technology very closely indeed. Now sulphur (or sulfur in the US) has entered the fray to add a new dimension to that progress.
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As a researcher in the area, I've found Li-S batteries to be one of the more obtainable future battery improvements. They have their problems, but none so fundamental that they couldn't be overcome, and the improvement in energy density is pretty great
Why aren't people focusing on lithium air when it has the most potential for energy density by a long shot?
@@dianapennepacker6854 Most metal air batteries are not rechargeable. Fixing that problem is very difficult.
@@dianapennepacker6854 : Increased fire risk is likely one, and contamination concerns are another very important one. As a foot note, lithium-air would be a fuel cell rather than a battery... which is where the contamination concern comes from. In essence, you need to either have a very reliable filter, or you have a serious risk of contamination altering your chemistry in ways that prevent the system from being restored to it's initial state, thereby causing behavioral problems. This is an important subject, and must be respected by engineers in order to produce a genuinely viable technology.
@@dianapennepacker6854it's one shot nature? I could be wrong but the battery would need to be replaced once it's discharged. Unless I am drastically wrong about lithium air batteries
Just out of curiosity - might it also be possible to replace Lithium with Sodium to get Sodium-Sulphur batteries, which then really don't use any rare elements of the periodic table?
thank you again for the ungrumpenly reports
on a grumpy world matters.
Very best compliments with you calm and realistic approach.
Especially when what we don't need is more dommerism views, we do need as much hope as we can get people to feel as we keep pushing!
Much appreciated
@@JustHaveaThink Have you looked at Silicon Anode batteries?
How about a totally new battery architecture that involves stacking
100 small 3mm high cells per mobile battery that is entering production
2024 with mobile customers.......ENOVIX.
@@JustHaveaThinkcan you do a research about cell size standardization benefits?
It is so eazy to upgrade a battery when size is the same in all car models and because of that a better price.
Ev manufacturing has become an enabling industry to so many other technologies. As costs plummet and energy density raises so many more applications for batteries are being used. For example a practical e-scooter was not possible when the iphone came out.
Picked up from laptop batteries
@@rp9674 Yes laptop and phone batteries are what made practical EV's a possibility in a very similar way.
We need to be sure the politicians and manufactures don't turn these into dystopian profit and control machines. Already laws proposed to limit speed, remote shutdown, and monitoring. Planned obsolesce is already here. DIY repair is gone.
@@RS-ls7mm Personal EVs are ultimately just harm reduction.
The real EV potential is in mass transit. A train can move at least 10x the passengers per hour (20,000+ vs 2,000), when compared with personal vehicles, in a 3.5m corridor.
You can fix some of the low density problems by strategically converting parking lots into apartment buildings.
@@jamesphillips2285 "harm reduction". Not sure you understand where the resources for the EVs come from. Most people (mostly westerners) are so insulated from where the resources come from they don't see the tremendous suffering and exploitation. Its only to get much worse as EVs demand 4 times the resources to make (not including infrastructure).
Charging a 100kwh battery in 6 minutes, that is some serious energy that will flow in those charging cables.
Charging a 100kWh battery in 6 minutes from totally empty to full takes... drumroll... 100kWh of energy.
You probably meant some serious *power*, 1MW on average in this case.
Would not be possible without extreme heat rejection.
The copper thieves are drooling. Copper thieves destroy public EV stations in LA almost as fast as they are repaired. These cables would be enormous.
@@christopherleubner6633 even if it is possible, I read that New York for example uses 5500 Megawatt on average. That is 5500 fast charging cars at the same time. It would not be impossible since there are 2million cars in New York. So if 0.28% of the cars in New York would fast charge at the same time, it would consume as much energy as the whole city usually does. (my country is a bit confusing cause we say energi at wh/ joule, and effekt for watt, so that is why I write the wrong word :P )
Probably it will be a much higher voltage and they will split in many sections
Always love your style. Fact based lower wattage and easy to follow commentaries aren't easy to find on RUclips. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
Thank you for the update. By the way I like your style of "follow up every so often". I hope you continue to follow up with battery and energy companies.
Cheers Julius
Dave, speaking of disruptions, an affordable home storage battery would lead to huge increases in solar and EV adoption as well. Tesla Powerwalls and their primary competitors are still selling for Rolls Royce prices in the US, about $1,100 per kWh installed. Too rich for most people’s pocketbooks! The price of home and small businesses-scale battery storage needs to drop by 75%!
Yes - using lead/acid certainly works, but requires a lot of generator in the winter...
The sooner the price drops for household batteries the better. That way more people are involved. This will reduce the need for generating capacity and make wind and solar more functional.
The U.K. government has, at last, decided to zero rated household storage batteries. A bit on the late side for me as I’ve now 2 power wall batteries but at least it’s a start.
Does home storage really drive solar and EV adoption? I always thought it was mostly the other way 'round. That is, solar and EV are their own value proposition, but the value prop for a home battery is greatly enhanced if you have those other things to use it for.
Tesla Powerwalls are a scandalous ripoff. You can buy a car with an 80kwh battery for the price of three Powerwalls.
The amount of time I've spent listening to/watching reports on renewable energy vapourware that eventually comes to nothing is heading into multiple days of attention. However, Dave's reports are usually good value in this respect, with at least a skeptical view of industry boosterism. Thanks.
Thank you!
Your videos are so helpful in understanding the new battery technologies. Thank you so much for keeping us informed.
Thank you. Glad you like them!
Can't wait for the bicycle battery version!
I was thinking the same thing. Imagine an electric bike pulling up to a charging designed for electric cars and recharging its battery in 6 minutes.
@@ab-tf5fl and going another 100km with half the size of the batteries now.
@@ab-tf5fl Even better, 6 minute charging was for a car. A bike sized battery would probably take 20 seconds.
@@danmallery9142 Unfortunately, that's not how batteries work. Their charge rate is always an absolute number, regardless of their size. It's called the "C-rate", with a value of 1C meaning "one charge takes one hour", 2C meaning "two charges take one hour", and so on.
The hypothetical battery talked about in the video has a 10C charge rate, so 10 full charges per hour, or one full charge per 6 minutes. This is independent of the size of the battery. A 1 kWh battery will charge in 6 minutes, and a 100 kWh battery will also charge in 6 minutes. The difference is that the latter will accept 100 times the power from the charger in order to pull that off.
@@streetwind. OTOH a bike could have a ridiculously oversized battery, and charge many kilometers of range per second.
A waste of money? Yes.
Possible? Also yes.
you are right, this development IS UNSTOPPABLE. what we don't know is, how fast this development goes forward. i suspect, that we don't see huge disruptions coming from a magic battery. it is more likely to see more linear innovation steps at a usual rate. a few percent more energy density and a few percent less cost per kWh every year. that does not sound sexy but it still creates growth and is fine enough for me.
Fully agree with you. Also, in a matter of a few years (I'd say 3-5 years), EVs will become clearly cheaper the ICEv, not just to own, but also to buy.
@@gianluigicassin868 yes.
one example from germany:
VW Tiguan ICE starts at 37.000€
VW ID.4 EV starts at 43.000€
==> difference 6.000€
possible cost reductions in the following years:
2024: -1800€
2025: -1600€
2026: -1400€
2027: -1200€
equals -6000€. bingo.
@@gianluigicassin868actually they're hitting parity this year and by next year, maybe the year after, they will start to be a little cheaper than an equivalent ICE car. ICE prices are actually increasing while EV prices are decreasing, but most people looking at the comparison assume ICE prices are staying the same which is why they predict 4 - 5 years before parity. As EV production increases exponentially, prices will come down further due to efficiency of scale. However, the opposite is true for ICE vehicles - falling production as sales switch from ICE to EV will mean prices for ICE will actually start to go higher, faster. The widening gap, plus people seeing the resale value of their gas cars plummet at the same time sticker prices are going up, will result in an unstoppable feedback loop that will quickly result in ICE vehicles simply no longer selling in enough volumes to cover the cost of the factories making them, at which point they'll simply close the money-losing ICE factories.
CATL (largest battery maker in the world) recently said they were going to cut prices in half within a year. If that happens, it would be a BIG change. Battery performance, which is already pretty impressive among the best batteries, will probably be on an evolutionary path, but with the amount of firepower now aimed at battery research, I really can't rule out a revolutionary improvement.
To bad people aren't focusing on lithium air solid state. I don't know why. It is the end all be all of chemistry as far as power density goes.
Has to be a reason, but I can't find much. There was a break through last year with it, but that was it. Still didn't compare.
Thanks for another excellent video. As EVs continue to grab market share, the potential revenues for the manufacturers of their batteries are substantial and that is driving huge amounts of investments. I traded in my 2013 Tesla with 315,000km and 85% of battery capacity on the original battery in December. That means that batteries which were already very good for purpose 10 years ago will only get much better and less expensive over the coming years. That is great news for those of us who see the need to rapidly reduce emissions in any way possible.
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Re buying used EVs: we need objective tools to assess the health of EV batteries. Buyers of used EVs tend to be lower income and we'd hate them of all people to get screwed.
It is a great business idea. Make a service/device that can do this for a low price.@@mv80401
That's a great battery outcome. Did you use super chargers much?
It makes me wonder if all this technology is interchangeable as modern history indicates not.....whilst I applaud these advances....human intervention has the ability to prolong the introduction of sushi advances......
My irresistible urge is to tell you to keep up the great work! You are one of the best!
Thanks for all the battery news!
Thanks Dave. Your weekly glimmers of Sunlight amid the global warming gloom are very welcome!
Great content Dave, and thanks for all the good energy you put into this channel!
Excellent channel - subscribed! Thx for making these vids which expand our knowledge of what can be achieved in the future.
i've heard of sodium-sulfur batteries (that was DECADES ago) but lithium-sulfur is new to me.
Great video Dave. You've got your work cut out keeping up with all the progress I think. I'm sure you'll agree its a great situation to be in. All the best.
Thanks Jim 👍
Absolutely fantastic , some positive progress on the get rid of oil and gas conundrum .
Thanks for your information on the latest battery technology and all you do. Not to mention a comfortable delivery!
Cheers Roger.
Good on ya, Dave.
Thanks for another very interesting and informative review of battery technology developments.
Really interesting. Thank you for your excellent review of advances in various battery technologies.
Thanks for all you do Dave! ❤ no Sunday without having a think 😉
Cheers Max.
Another great one. With such energy density, new opportunities would open, not just cars with longer range. Just... It's been announced so many times already, that I am a bit skeptical about revolution and expect more evolution. Not that it's bad, just making the expectations a bit more realistic.
Thing is we might have to ditch long distance cars anyway at some point. Majority of driving happens to be done within very reasonable range of new proposed battery technology.
It will probably be more evolutionary - they'll probably have to make sacrifices to get the longevity needed which will bring down the charging speed and energy density, meaning that at first Li Su batteries will probably only be marginally better than current batteries. It just means a new arc is introduced that extends the theoretical maximum out further than current battery chemistries. Once the maximum for Li Su batteries is starting to be reached, they'll have some new revolution that will extend that arc yet again.
@@Pecisk No, there's no reason that we have to give up long distance cars. We already have that problem solved with electric vehicles; it's done with fast chargers and decent sized batteries. No one is going to buy a car that can't go as far as they need, and there are a lot of parts of the world where people need to drive hundreds of km.
@@Peciskthing is we need to ditch cars entirely. Replacing gas with batteries doesn't solve the underlying problem that it's terribly stupid to use a 2 ton box of polluting metal and rubber to transport one dude and 5kg of groceries
@@person8064 I completely agree that using a car for virtually every trip to the local super market or any other destination within a few km's is wasteful to begin with, especially when driving alone, but to change that you need to have access to better alternatives like (electric) bikes, which means proper infrastructure like bike-lanes, sidewalks and other safe and convenient non-car means of travel. But that doesn't take away the need for people to travel longer distances for work, family or vacation, and the freedom and flexibility of a car is unmatched in that area. So ditching cars entirely...? I'm an optimist but that's just not going to happen I'm afraid... As such, conversion to EV's that will ultimately be cleaner, more efficient, more comfortable, last longer and may even outmatch fossil fuel cars on range at some point is definitely a good strategy IMHO.
THE IMPROVEMENT ON BATTERYS AND SOLARCELLS IS GOING WELL AS MUCH AS I KNOW .. I LIKE THAT !!..
Solar cells - that is a joke - LOL
This series is my fav rn on RUclips
Cheers Kevin. Much appreciated :-)
Always relevant, always on-topic and always very informative. Thank you.
Facts and analysis delivered in an approachable way, as always. Thanks so much for the hard work, Dave!
The energy density and power improvements are great...
As long as we can get sufficient life out if them.
A 5x energy density improvement is about what we need to make electric small aircraft viable.
They would go from a 30-60 min duration to a 2.5-5 hour duration. This gets us from recreational local to regional air travel.
Yet another video offering a wonderful promise.
I'm not holding my dreath until it's rolled out in mass and has been running for a few years.
Great channel. People have no issue with progress. And how I travel. If a battery powered vehicle can offer me what a diesel does. For less than 5k. I'm all in. Of course second hand is what I'm interested in. Longevity. Multiple owners. Long term use. I heard someone say solid state batteries would have allowed a 5min charge. Similar to a petrol station stop.
Now..
You may argue 'but you can plan in a stop at a charger' Well. There's the thing. I value my time more than anything else. More of it. Is not guaranteed. And the time I do have. Is a finite resource. I'm in my 40's. I refuse to waste hours sitting in a car waiting to continue on with my journey. And I'm not buying a car that costs the same as a house in North West England so I don't have to charge mid journey. I'm not insane.
So seeing battery research and development is great! The future looks bright.
Net Zero target dates being met. More chance of winning the lottery without a ticket.
Thanks for the update. 🙏
Dude keep doing what you're doing, you have great content, and whether some people like it or not, solar, wind and battery technology is a REALLY big deal and is going to drive economies for decades, so it's also important.
Good update on what may be the 'next big thing' in batteries.
Thank you for the commentary.
Our pleasure!
Thank you another entry in your "Where are they now?" series! It's really interesting to see how these technologies are coming along, and a little hopeful. If one consumes a steady diet of green technology channels it's easy to become a little cynical after a while, when none of the promising technologies seem to make it into everyday life. Your series directly counters that cynicism by showing us what's been happening since the technologies were last featured - both the challenges they're facing and the progress they've made.
In this video I really loved your explanation of how lithium sulphur batteries work. To be honest it's been a while since the first video, and I was a bit fuzzy on the details. The way you explained them was just beautiful, with the words and animations working together. I love how you make the complicated details seem simple to us.
So I guess there's no definitive answer for sulphur batteries yet. They're still in devlopment. There have been some extraordinary claims made by different firms saying they've solved the expansion and polysulphide shuttle problems, but none of them have been commercially tested yet.
Thanks for your very kind feedback Kevin. Much appreciated :-)
I appreciate you work.
Thank you for a helpful look at current battery tech. You were spot on with your final comment there as I personally despise electric cars and you forced me to comment on it 😎. But they have their uses and im glad they exist for several reasons, one of them to help push forward battery tech
Thanks for this update on a promising technology. I'm retired now but one of the companies I followed as a industry analyst were Oxis Energy in the UK. They were working on LiS battery technology which looked promising and I met some of them at a conference in 2017. Sadly, they went into administration a couple of years ago through lack of funding. In Europe the leading company seems to be Theion Gmbh in Germany. Their approach uses 'crystal structures' to overcome the problems you mention here. Their website points out that sulphur is an industrial bi-product, ironically mostly from refining crude oil..
Many thanks for your consistency and considerate reporting on these technical topics. Please continue. They are a breath of hope in an world struggling to change.
Great video as always. Hopefullt Anything of all this magic battery technologies come thru... 🙂
I bet Lyten has 'discovered' scalable process to cook graphene up in big batches. Not too long back, Thinking an' Tinkering did a vid exploring a peer-reviewed 'countertop' experiment where a kitchen blender was used to process graphite into graphene
Pencil lead sounds so less sexier than graphene nano tubes.
Great video, as usual. Thank you for your excellent work.
Thanks for the terrifically presented information. There is hope!
I bought my first EV last week, and have just spent the last 5 days driving it about 1k miles. Only downside was the huge time spent queuing for chargers- i had to wait a total of 3 minutes for a charger to free up over the whole period... utterly outrageous and clearly, driving long distances is impossible without having to burn gallons of foreign oil.
Another great video - Thanks!
Thanks for your support Tim. Much appreciated.
I've loved your channel since I first discovered it ... umm .. quite a while ago (no idea when) These reviews of technologies you have looked at before are absolutely fantastic! The rate of progress is extremely hopeful and definitely positive in a world where 'doom & gloom' seems the order of the day: I am loving this "2024 Sustainable Technology Review" series.
I hope that you look at some of the wonderful - and possibly wacky - ideas of alternatives to battery storage for energy - heavy weights over mineshafts, algae, sand batteries etc
Many Thanks..... That certain would help!
Another excellent video. Thanks.
I feel that the advances are slower overall than giant leaps, so it would be good for you to review the various factors over time that affect renewables. e.g. how has battery density grown from where it was back in 2000 to now, or when did all the different battery technologies first become to production ,etc. Great vid as always. Thanks for the effort you go to.
This sounds very encouraging
I like the reality on this Channel. I can even understand what is being said. Great reporting.thanks
Very interesting presentation. I have been hanging my hat on LFP batteries. Cheers
Thanks again, Dave--Good news in research and progress toward saving the planet, and ourselves. BTW, Thank you for continuing your narration at a reasonable pace: Some of my favorite RUclips sites have allowed the pressures of time and money to lead to such fast-talking that I can't keep up. I do use the close caption option, and yours (or the service you use) is better than most, even better than Hossenfelder and Dowd. Some sites are entertaining just for their absurd close-captioning renditions, but that is ultimately distracting and usually requires me to watch/listen another time.
you had me @ExpansionTolerance , i convulsively clutched at My Wallet.
Keep up the good work!
Excellent report on critical technology. Bravo, monsieur! 🎉😊
Thank you :-)
Love your videos. Thanks.
Glad you like them!
Thanks a lot for these updates. Definitely good news. :)
Thanks for another great video ❤
looks promising, fingers crossed. thanks.
Thank you
You're welcome :-)
Looks like we really changing soon from valley of tears (where are all these fantastic laboratory results and breakthroughs) into the pay off phase at which they can really make a difference and help in the transition. With several different approaches i am very positive that we can still see improvements even after their first launch. So the gambler would say last chance to place your bets.
You've left me with an irresistable urge to tell you that the irresistable urge line, and the types it was directed at, made me laugh like a drain. Well said. Fingers crossed for LiS cells.
Thanks for the update Dave.
I’ve learnt not to get too excited about new cell chemistry until the vendor publishes independently verified charge/discharge data and warrants the cycle life & total energy storage capacity. I’m guessing we won’t see this information until the manufacturers are ready for volume production.
Totally agree
Great presentation.
Great video as usual 👌
Very good. Thanks.
Thanks
Great video. There's article on Australian water battery with nano anode/cathodes this week. Keep reading aluminum salt sulfur too.
Great vid, as always.
Thank you for the research so I don't have to. 😊🎉❤Great videos!
Not only cars. Busking with electric instruments. I want my little tube amp for street music. Thats a huge problem for current batteries that makes them too heavy.
🚀🏴☠️🎸
Happy Sunday! The last point, about transition from fossil-fuel to electric vehicles...I can't help but think of the number of wars, police actions, what have you, that _may not_ have been waged had we got smart at the first oil embargo when we got our bell rung by the oil-producing states a half century ago. It would be a much different World today had we took notice and started the transition sooner instead of continuing to put money into the hands of despots.
I was told that there were many people who opposed the Gutenberg Press because it was disruptive. There will always be short sighted and narrow minded people who oppose progress.
there were people in America that thought the telephone and electricity were tools of the devil..
@@johnlarson111it is. Look what phones have done to our society. It literally is killing us and taking away our freedom. That sure sounds like the devil to me
@@johnlarson111dont forget the fossil-fuel addicted masses who think they have a right to drive wherever, whenever they want.
The historical term is Luddites. Or the British Aristocracy (some of them).
These days it's the "American Aristocracy", the families of the 1850's robber barons who are still very rich. And by buying the Supreme Court (SCOTUS) and the Republican Party, they have GUARANTEED that the US will lose this technology race (no matter what Biden does with his IRA).
Personally I am quite happy with that; if it weren't for Tesla the US would have no hope of retaining their global dominance through more than another decade (the shortsighted will disagree with me, and that's OK!).
I am also eagerly looking forward to the SECOND year of El Nino "heat domes" in the US Sunbelt - can we get 30 straight days above 110F in Phoenix? Will be GREAT for the housing industry (you can't roof in that temperature it will literally KILL you). (Oh wait, US Weather Service: "Temperatures soared to 110+ degrees for a record 31 straight days from June 30 to July 30." Maybe you can go for 60 days?). Still denying climate change? STILL saying it was just "summer"? Please ... MOVE to Phoenix. I sure am glad I didn't take that job in Scottsdale! Or the one in Dallas ...
And for you 'Murican "haters", obviously I am wrong ... those two degrees were a waste of time as I clearly didn't learn ANYTHING about Physics or statistics, did I? Your GED is much better! We should know by November (hurricane season FTW).
@@johnlarson111given the state of social media (a combination of telephone and electricity)can you honestly argue they were wrong 🤔
Oh, I am with you on that.
Anything that moves us away from CARBON
Excellent as always!
Cheers Michael :-)
Another very interesting video Dave, great to see your work in keeping us informed...
Only one not picking point, you showed a virtual demo of an early Eviation Alice electric plane, the later one modified in 2021 had its first flight in September '22... Surely better to use the real thing than an early mock up? Hopefully these developments will give the Eviation Alice a decent shot at making an impact on the aviation industry?
Good point Peter. I had not spotted the footage that you mentioned.
@@JustHaveaThink Battery electric aviation is one of those thorny issues that might be worth exploring? There are already small steps with the Pipistrel battery electric trainer certified and in production as an example of perhaps the most promising development. The Eviation Alice is another promising example that is ... still in the pipeline although there are already quite a few pre orders. Also on the transport side, the Aptera is a more down to earth example of a direction the ground based transportation industry should be looking, worth exploring?
We might be some way from a SpaceX battery electric starship though....
Perhaps comments for your Patreon page? ;)
Thank you a lot for another nicely made, funny and interesting presented video ❤️♥️👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
I have not realized that Lithium-Sulfur batteries were seemingly so close to successful commercialization. Thanks for the update!
Thank you!
Great video!
I find your posts very informative and encouraging to we who are concerned about fossil fuel use. Many thanks for them. 👏👏👏
There is a reason nitrogen, sulphur, sulfide, carbon, and nitrogen are regulators of epigenetic quality control and electron transport chain stability.
It's about time we paid attention to biology when making batteries.
I’m hoping the expanding field of high-density batteries leads to lower prices and more options for electric bikes. EVs are great (I wish I had one), but they are still cars with most of the problems cars bring (low density suburban sprawl, particulate pollution from tires, city planning that prioritizes parking over people, traffic injuries and fatalities, etc.). I would love to use my bike for more errands, but my town has lots of hills and almost no bike lanes. More good, affordable electric bikes would make it much easier to minimize car trips.
First up if successful might be bicycles then scooters? Fine and clear video I much appreciate.
Thanks Dave! One day I hope that the daily deluge of "possibly" game-changing technologies will become articles about actual products that are in use. I'm semi-hopeful.
There's that phrase again, Dave...."could be". I am not 'a glass half empty' person really: chances are, one of these clever developments you inform of us will succeed.
Several industries are eagerly awaiting this sort of development, particularly the electrical aircraft manufacturers. The only thing stopping them receiving approval is the combustion fears around current tech. So we can expect a exciting revolution in flight almost immediately.
Brilliant as ever
Great update 👍
Thanks 👍
Great stuff
Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
I raised $$ for Zeta when it was called TUBZ 6 years ago. My old Broker Dealer had to drop them after we raise 3mm because of the actions of the CEO. Let's see what progress they can get with this Grant they announced. Certainly not the 160mm in revenue they projected would hit by 2024...oh wait is it 2024 yet? I love the scientists but not management. Like all companies, it's management that makes all the difference.
I so want this idea to work. EV technology is exciting and something everyone has access to via vehicle purchases. There are obvious issues with charging stations needed but the same was true when the IC engine for the new idea of cars driven by gasoline was new. This too will happen. I also understand that the roads were first built for horses and people and not for vehicles so some change in thinking has to happen.
Exactly, and just as the first horseless carriages were despised and mocked by those who lack vision, anything not powered by the 19th century technology internal combustion engine will face similar backlash. Those types of people tend to think stubbornly in terms of what "was" up to and including current issues to be overcome, and embrace these concepts as "will be"... all the while, never opening up their minds enough to see that it is a work in progress and that it has great potential. If these sorts of people had their way, horses would still be the main technology of transportation. They love to put the laughing emoji on posts concerning EVs. I give them a mental laughing emoji as I drive past the gas stations and see them regularly dumping $65 to $95 in their tanks. (I charge every 10 days or so in my garage over night, and since I generate a surplus of solar electric, I don't even have an increase of a utility bill)
I love watching your videos on utube and look forward to meeting you at the everything electric London show on 28 March 2024, I am lucky enough to travel down in Tesla s free energy for life vehicle so will not have pay the money making ulez zone charge. I am interested in seeing the development of the solid state battery so soon better vehicle charging in the future, see you at EE London.
Hmm, carbon + Sulphur + a metalic salt should make a good bang.
So like many just around the corner next great break through in battery technology and chemistry this will join the ranks of 'in the next 5 -10 years'.
sounds good. lets see.
As always Dave, seeing is believing. I'm waiting for the first commercially viable solution that hits the market. But I must admit that Li-S looks very promising indeed. I do hope it also makes cars cheaper because right now they are out of my reach al together. I think it is worth while to wait bit for a better battery solutions to be marketed before buying one for the home f.i. Thanks for this unbiased update Dave.
[The Poly Sulfide Shuffle was introduced by MIT students at a mixer during a physics conference at Cambridge in 1957.]
I remember seeing some info about lithium-sulfur batteries being "within 5 years of mass market adoption" about 2 years ago... Some of the updates from this year make that initial prediction seem more possible.