Hi Dennis, I really appreciate that you gave me a good look at that spring setup..Sorry I do realise my question was very confusing but you nailed it.. again thank you best wishes
I'm loving these Denis. They charge an arm an a leg to get maintainence done on these. Finally know how I can do it myself. Much love from Australia, Keep safe
There is a reason they charge so much. They take time and are not a quick fix. If you have the time and patience, you can do it too! Best wishes - Dennis
I just purchased this exact reel recently second hand and this video is exactly what I needed. Now I purchased a set (3) of replacement bearings ($12) and was wondering how often you replace the bearings being new one are so inexpensive. Now I have the confidence to tackle the tackle job! Thank You very much!
Glad I could help! Bearings will last unless they get sanded or are not take care of, so you do not need to replace them often. You probably have the originals in the reel that you have. Just keep them clean and lubed and they will last a long time - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Hi Dennis- I completed the service last year after watching the video one more time for confidence sake and I'm happy to report it's still working just as it should. As a matter of fact it's now on my list of reels awaiting their yearly service. Boy doesn't time just fly! Thanks again for all you do! My next project is to service/inspect an original Accurate Boss 665h twindrag with a serial number under 200! I found it in excellent condition at an estate sale. Looking forward to watching the video you have on a similar model which I'm sure is comparable to my 665 for another boost of confidence. It's not rocket science right?! Haha! Another question- On this Accurate that I picked up (and have now idea how many years it has been sitting) it is loaded with either clear Fluorocarbon line (or very stiff mono). What's your feelings about when to replace (non braid) fishing line? Best Regards, -Mike Dee
I have this reel and this will be very helpful when I service it,thank you. My anti reverse lever broke off and I think I've purchased a replacement but getting to it where I can install the new one would seem to take more breaking down of the reel than you did here, unless I am wrong?
@@2ndChanceTackle I did it! Replaced the anti reverse cam and the lever. Getting the spring reset while attaching the lever was a task. Got the rest of the reel tuned up too. Now looking to tuneup the line roller which is stuck. There’s a clip I can see that looks like it’s plastic and I don’t want to break it. Put penetrating oil on it to see if things loosen up. Thanks again for the guidance.
Hi Dennis Once again you've tamed the Beast ! The first thing I thought of when he opened up the case was the original engineer saying, "How can I mess with those guys that service this reel ?! Hmmm...Let me add in a couple of c clips under everything and out of sight, just for fun !! Yup, that'll stump 'em." #€#×& (not... ) He/she didn't anticipate Dennis, the Reel Master from 2nd Chance Tackle. !!! Plenty of curve balls on this one and Kudos to You, Dennis !!! All the Best, " C "
There are no distributors who still stock these. You will need to find then or search eBay and various online sites as well as flea markets, etc. Parts support is no longer available and all parts for those reels are very hard to find. Good luck in your search - Dennis
I do not have that video. It sounds like you may not have installed the trip mechanism properly and that is the problem with closing the case. - Dennis
Hi. Thank you for this great video. Would converting this reel to Teflon brake discs be an advantage. Which fat/oil can I use. Is this reel suitable for salt water? Thanks in advance
The reel is designed for salt water. You can use most fishing reel greases and oils on the reel. Any manufacturer's grease or oil will do. Avoid common household or automotive products as they are not designed for maximum protection in marine environments. You should only change the drag washers if there is a problem with the current ones. No need to change to Carbontex or teflon unless you are wearing out the ones that came with the reel.
Ok, this is a nightmare 😱... I never wanna do this by myself. Lucky enough, I never use baitfeeder/-runner reels 😬 Nevertheless, it is very interesting to see the technique. Thanks for the video, Dennis, stay safe!
These are not easy, but this one is easier than some of the set ups from other manufacturers. There is a reason that many shops do not work on these. They take a lot of time and the fix is not easy. Thanks Roy - Dennis
You should have a nut or screw that attaches the bail wire to the arm. If you remove it, you can pull the wire off of the bail arm and remove the line roller for servicing or replacement
I bought the reel used and the bearing was frozen on I soaked and soaked. Still couldn't get it off so I pried it off. I messed up the spacer and ring. They won't come off either. So going have to cut them off with a grinder or Dremel. Do you know what those part numbers are?
I am not sure which version you have, but here is a schematic of one that should help you get the part numbers you are looking for www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Shimano/Baitrunner/SHIMANO%20BAITRUNNER%20BTR6500B%282003%29.pdf Thanks for asking - Dennis
One question..can you please show how to assemble the springs that go on the sides of the curved metal thingo ( don't know what's its called) that you flick over before you cast. I had to pull that apart cause it was full of sand and the 2 little springs popped out and I cant figure out how to put back in..OOPS!
Is it possible that C clip that holds the rear drag in was in wrong on the reel you were working on? I kept putting the clip in as you showed with the shorter side going up towards the top of the reel. The side cover would not go all the way down in the back? About 32nd of a inch. Maybe 16th of a inch the side cover would stick up. When I took that clip out and turned it around with the shorter side of the C clip pointing down, the side cover would go done with the nice clap sound nice and flush. I wanted to verify so I took the other 2 I own apart to see what way that rear drag C clip that holds the rear drag in goes and they both were down. Was this reel a customers and they put it in wrong at one time and just tightened it up forcing it down? I was going nuts trying to figure it out? But from what I see with my 3 reels the C clip goes down. The dowels wont go in the rear holes other wise. Loved the video and it was a big help.
It is possible, but like you noted, the case would not snap closed. - I need to go back and watch the vid as it was done a while ago. Thanks for picking up on it- Dennis
Dennis....I recently acquired one of these 6500B reels second hand due to the overwhelmingly positive comments I read online. It is in almost new condition...not a scratch or blemish on it.First thing I noticed upon opening the box and turning the handle forward to tighten it for use was unlike my old trusty Diawa Apollo Silver Series reels that I cut my teeth on this reel...when turning the handle backwards...the handle doesn't turn the spool backwards...it just loosens the handle as if I was folding it up to put back in the box. Is this something peculiar to bautrunner types reels? Or am I not doing something right?
Your reel is working properly. The spool does not turn backwards and the handle unscrews because the Anti-Reverse is engaged. You need to flip the A/R override lever to the off position in order to back pedal this reel.
Do you take commissions? I’ve got a baitrunner 6500 that’s a little choppy on retrieve and wondering what the problem is. I figure I can take it apart but I don’t trust myself with the small parts.
If you are asking if I repair reels by mail, the answer is yes. Please send a note to my email 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com for repair information and pricing Thank you for asking - Dennis
Yes. If you are interested, please send ma a note to 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com and I will send the repair and service information - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Misty - please send a note to my email 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com and I will send you the part - I assume you mean the left side (non-gear) bearing - Dennis
Hello Dennis, great video, new subscriber. I have an older 6500 baitrunner. The body looks the same as the one in the video but my spool is black graphite and the main drag does not click when adjusting. The spool says "Shimano Triton Sea Spin 6500." I haven't used it in a few years but I am putting it on a new bridge setup. I've always taken care of it and it runs very smooth. What I notice though, is that there is a lot of play in the handle. When I hold the spool in place it wiggles about a half inch back and forth. Is there anything I can do about this? Or is this reel just not as precise as newer reels? Thank you.
If that handle is threaded directly into the main gear, then it is general wear and from usage over time. I think the reel you have was made in the 1980s so it has had time to develop the play. I don't think anything short of replacing the gearing will help at this point - Dennis
Yes there are. When you add features, you add parts. Something to be said about just a big gear turning a smaller one, like the old direct drive reels.
I know it's just me it's a fishing reel. People are always looking for the fanciest product out there like a bait feeder, level wind, automatic clutch release, 20 ball barrings, oh and need to be light weight and expect to catch a 800 lb tuna on it. What the freak wrong with people. You want the reel to catch, clean, and cook for you. Where's your man hood. It's no fun if it's easy I'll use a direct drive reel catch more fish any one else. All the extras just something else to break now your out of a reel for couple weeks until get repaired $$$ that's why it's called angling.
followed your vidieo toook my 6500 apart today did compleat tear down and cleaning thanx for sharing your knowledge with us dennis
Glad it helped. Thanks for the note and for watching - Dennis
Very good tutorial on a complicated reel, keeping those two parts intact is a great tip for that one!
Thanks! Nick 👍. Nice reels, but on the hard side to maintain. - Dennis
Hi Dennis, I really appreciate that you gave me a good look at that spring setup..Sorry I do realise my question was very confusing but you nailed it.. again thank you best wishes
I'm happy to have helped. Dennis
I'm loving these Denis. They charge an arm an a leg to get maintainence done on these. Finally know how I can do it myself. Much love from Australia, Keep safe
There is a reason they charge so much. They take time and are not a quick fix. If you have the time and patience, you can do it too! Best wishes - Dennis
I just purchased this exact reel recently second hand and this video is exactly what I needed. Now I purchased a set (3) of replacement bearings ($12) and was wondering how often you replace the bearings being new one are so inexpensive. Now I have the confidence to tackle the tackle job! Thank You very much!
Glad I could help! Bearings will last unless they get sanded or are not take care of, so you do not need to replace them often. You probably have the originals in the reel that you have. Just keep them clean and lubed and they will last a long time - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle Hi Dennis- I completed the service last year after watching the video one more time for confidence sake and I'm happy to report it's still working just as it should. As a matter of fact it's now on my list of reels awaiting their yearly service. Boy doesn't time just fly! Thanks again for all you do!
My next project is to service/inspect an original Accurate Boss 665h twindrag with a serial number under 200! I found it in excellent condition at an estate sale. Looking forward to watching the video you have on a similar model which I'm sure is comparable to my 665 for another boost of confidence. It's not rocket science right?! Haha!
Another question- On this Accurate that I picked up (and have now idea how many years it has been sitting) it is loaded with either clear Fluorocarbon line (or very stiff mono). What's your feelings about when to replace (non braid) fishing line?
Best Regards,
-Mike Dee
Amazing video..thank you..you helped me rebuild my late dad's reel.
That is awesome! Thanks for the feedback - Dennis
Well Dennis ,you’ve sold me ...I’m sending my reel to Shimano for a service ! 😀
Hope you’re keeping well,
Have a great day
Pete
Ps ..If you decide to retire from reel repair ,you should seriously think about career in surgery
Thanks, you too! Dennis
I have this reel and this will be very helpful when I service it,thank you. My anti reverse lever broke off and I think I've purchased a replacement but getting to it where I can install the new one would seem to take more breaking down of the reel than you did here, unless I am wrong?
Yes - there is some work needed to replace the lever. It is not as easy as a simple tune up - Dennis
@@2ndChanceTackle I did it! Replaced the anti reverse cam and the lever. Getting the spring reset while attaching the lever was a task. Got the rest of the reel tuned up too. Now looking to tuneup the line roller which is stuck. There’s a clip I can see that looks like it’s plastic and I don’t want to break it. Put penetrating oil on it to see if things loosen up. Thanks again for the guidance.
Thanks for the update. Glad to hear you have been able to service the reel. I appreciate the note - Dennis
Thank you! Very detailed tutorial.
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate you feedback and participation - Dennis
Hi Dennis
Once again you've tamed the Beast ! The first thing I thought of when he opened up the case was the original engineer saying, "How can I mess with those guys that service this reel ?! Hmmm...Let me add in a couple of c clips under everything and out of sight, just for fun !! Yup, that'll stump 'em." #€#×& (not... ) He/she didn't anticipate Dennis, the Reel Master from 2nd Chance Tackle. !!!
Plenty of curve balls on this one and Kudos to You, Dennis !!!
All the Best,
" C "
And this is one of the easier bait feeders! I've learned which ones to stay away from! Thanks Cons - Dennis
Hey Denis, nice detailed video but there is no way I will venture into taking apart my 4500B bait runner, would you be able to service it for me?
Yes - for repair information, please send a note to my email 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com Thanks for asking - Dennis
Hi. Great video! I have two of these reels. I'd like a couple spare spools. Can you advise what will fit them? Struggling to find them.
There are no distributors who still stock these. You will need to find then or search eBay and various online sites as well as flea markets, etc. Parts support is no longer available and all parts for those reels are very hard to find. Good luck in your search - Dennis
Great video. Do you have video on removing rotor side plate? I removed mine and can not get all of the parts back on correctly.
I do not have that video. It sounds like you may not have installed the trip mechanism properly and that is the problem with closing the case. - Dennis
Hi. Thank you for this great video. Would converting this reel to Teflon brake discs be an advantage. Which fat/oil can I use. Is this reel suitable for salt water? Thanks in advance
The reel is designed for salt water. You can use most fishing reel greases and oils on the reel. Any manufacturer's grease or oil will do. Avoid common household or automotive products as they are not designed for maximum protection in marine environments. You should only change the drag washers if there is a problem with the current ones. No need to change to Carbontex or teflon unless you are wearing out the ones that came with the reel.
@@2ndChanceTackle thanks a lot.
Ok, this is a nightmare 😱... I never wanna do this by myself.
Lucky enough, I never use baitfeeder/-runner reels 😬
Nevertheless, it is very interesting to see the technique. Thanks for the video, Dennis, stay safe!
These are not easy, but this one is easier than some of the set ups from other manufacturers. There is a reason that many shops do not work on these. They take a lot of time and the fix is not easy. Thanks Roy - Dennis
Thanks good helpful video.
The 650 and 6500 are similar in servicing these reels
Hi Dennis, great video, how do you remove or solve a sticky line roller on the bail arm? Cheers
You should have a nut or screw that attaches the bail wire to the arm. If you remove it, you can pull the wire off of the bail arm and remove the line roller for servicing or replacement
@@2ndChanceTackle what about configuration like the roller bearing on a Shimano baitrunner 6500B.
I bought the reel used and the bearing was frozen on I soaked and soaked. Still couldn't get it off so I pried it off. I messed up the spacer and ring. They won't come off either. So going have to cut them off with a grinder or Dremel. Do you know what those part numbers are?
I am not sure which version you have, but here is a schematic of one that should help you get the part numbers you are looking for www.reelschematic.com/wp-content/uploads/schematics/Shimano/Baitrunner/SHIMANO%20BAITRUNNER%20BTR6500B%282003%29.pdf Thanks for asking - Dennis
One question..can you please show how to assemble the springs that go on the sides of the curved metal thingo ( don't know what's its called) that you flick over before you cast. I had to pull that apart cause it was full of sand and the 2 little springs popped out and I cant figure out how to put back in..OOPS!
I will see if I can find one. The wire is called the bail wire and the springs are bail springs. Thanks for asking - Dennis
Is it possible that C clip that holds the rear drag in was in wrong on the reel you were working on? I kept putting the clip in as you showed with the shorter side going up towards the top of the reel. The side cover would not go all the way down in the back? About 32nd of a inch. Maybe 16th of a inch the side cover would stick up. When I took that clip out and turned it around with the shorter side of the C clip pointing down, the side cover would go done with the nice clap sound nice and flush. I wanted to verify so I took the other 2 I own apart to see what way that rear drag C clip that holds the rear drag in goes and they both were down. Was this reel a customers and they put it in wrong at one time and just tightened it up forcing it down? I was going nuts trying to figure it out? But from what I see with my 3 reels the C clip goes down. The dowels wont go in the rear holes other wise. Loved the video and it was a big help.
It is possible, but like you noted, the case would not snap closed. - I need to go back and watch the vid as it was done a while ago. Thanks for picking up on it- Dennis
Dennis....I recently acquired one of these 6500B reels second hand due to the overwhelmingly positive comments I read online. It is in almost new condition...not a scratch or blemish on it.First thing I noticed upon opening the box and turning the handle forward to tighten it for use was unlike my old trusty Diawa Apollo Silver Series reels that I cut my teeth on this reel...when turning the handle backwards...the handle doesn't turn the spool backwards...it just loosens the handle as if I was folding it up to put back in the box. Is this something peculiar to bautrunner types reels? Or am I not doing something right?
Your reel is working properly. The spool does not turn backwards and the handle unscrews because the Anti-Reverse is engaged. You need to flip the A/R override lever to the off position in order to back pedal this reel.
Do you take commissions? I’ve got a baitrunner 6500 that’s a little choppy on retrieve and wondering what the problem is. I figure I can take it apart but I don’t trust myself with the small parts.
If you are asking if I repair reels by mail, the answer is yes. Please send a note to my email 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com for repair information and pricing
Thank you for asking - Dennis
they sell sealed bearings for that model a good investment
Good to know. Thanks for the note Peter - Dennis
So do you take these in for repair if need be? Thanks
Yes. If you are interested, please send ma a note to 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com and I will send the repair and service information - Thanks for asking - Dennis
Hi Dennis I recently bought a penn 180 baymaster with a missing left side drag screw what reels have the same screw that I could use as a replacement
Misty - please send a note to my email 2ndchancetackle@gmail.com and I will send you the part - I assume you mean the left side (non-gear) bearing - Dennis
Hello Dennis, great video, new subscriber. I have an older 6500 baitrunner. The body looks the same as the one in the video but my spool is black graphite and the main drag does not click when adjusting. The spool says "Shimano Triton Sea Spin 6500." I haven't used it in a few years but I am putting it on a new bridge setup. I've always taken care of it and it runs very smooth. What I notice though, is that there is a lot of play in the handle. When I hold the spool in place it wiggles about a half inch back and forth. Is there anything I can do about this? Or is this reel just not as precise as newer reels? Thank you.
If that handle is threaded directly into the main gear, then it is general wear and from usage over time. I think the reel you have was made in the 1980s so it has had time to develop the play. I don't think anything short of replacing the gearing will help at this point - Dennis
What is the function of the block of wood with nails in it?
It holds my grease brush off of the bench so that the tip of the brush does not smear grease on the table.
Thanks for asking - Dennis
Lot of parts in there wow.
Typical Shimano
Yes there are. When you add features, you add parts. Something to be said about just a big gear turning a smaller one, like the old direct drive reels.
I know it's just me it's a fishing reel. People are always looking for the fanciest product out there like a bait feeder, level wind, automatic clutch release, 20 ball barrings, oh and need to be light weight and expect to catch a 800 lb tuna on it. What the freak wrong with people. You want the reel to catch, clean, and cook for you. Where's your man hood. It's no fun if it's easy I'll use a direct drive reel catch more fish any one else. All the extras just something else to break now your out of a reel for couple weeks until get repaired $$$ that's why it's called angling.
@@MichaelJones-xp8kf I wouldn't call this reel fancy by any stretch.
Dennis when my 4500 needs service it’s coming your way. No way would I try this!!
Thanks for the kind words. Best wishes - Dennis
when i open mine to clean there was no grease from the factory completly dry
Another good reason to service the reel frequently and not assume anything. Thanks
well that was fucken painfull
It was a patience tester!