If this story ended with the Doctor declaring he’ll search for Susan, the theme of searching for lost family MIGHT have paid off. Instead, it left me utterly flabbergasted and deflated.
Empire of Death really solidified my opinion that we desperately need new writers, the wilderness years writers need phasing out sooner rather than later. The show hasn’t been covering new ground since series 11, and that’s tragic.
I mean, I'd have no issues with Parkin, Loz, or Orman popping in for an episode or two. But, uh, they shouldn't be the main creative force, and it shouldn't be the same three or four we've been endlessly recursing on for the past two decades.
I think it's a mix of RTD looking at the wrong places as a way to renew the show, while also indulging himself. It seems like he is mostly targeting a younger audience with short-attention span, so everything in this season feels rushed, fast, The Doctor and Ruby are jumping around from one adventure to another, with no time for them to sit down and talk. Pretty much the first ten minutes of Space Babies is a speedrun through the show's lore, despite Series 1 in 2005 taking a whole season to slowly unveil the Doctor for us. In Rose we get introduced to character and the TARDIS, in End of The World we see his backstory and later we meet the Daleks. What Ruby wants besides her biological mother? What does this incarnation of The Doctor stands for? He seems healed, but at the same he doesn't. Why he considers Ruby his best friend? I don't know, because RTD thinks it's not important to make the characters talk about it. I feel like RTD just shielded himself by talking down to the fans, by saying things ''Doctor Who is meant to be FUN and SILLY! You shouldn't take those things so seriously!''
So I think this is a symptom of RTD running on auto pilot and having such a grand ego he doesn't need to edit his scripts. Young audiences do not care, it hasn't been marketed to them at all. Tis all a farce.
14:40 Yisssss. I really think 'magic' and 'loose rules' is code for "What if I didn't spend most of my time thinking about plot mechanics, and set-up and pay-off, and A-plot/B-plot." 100%. You can decide for yourself if you like that or not, but I really do think that's the main change he's consciously made coming back. It's a Saturday morning cartoon show, with Saturday morning cartoon logic
What I hate about that angle is that it always tries to sound so profound whilst doing it. Memory...rain...snow...time...life... The faux-poetry around this toonforce logic is deeply, obnoxiously pretentious. Feels like revival self-parody.
I love the memes from Sutekh just being with the TARDIS as it blows up, gets dropped in lava, gets blown up again, sees about 8 other TARDIS's all with their own Sutekh and so much more.
RTD does promotional interviews where he says the new episode is the best thing he's ever written. RTD does a picture-in-picture commentary during the episode where he says the episode is the best thing he's ever written. RTD does a behind-the-scenes aftershow where he says the episode you just watched is the best thing he's ever written. Marvelous!
@@lewgallagher463 for Capaldi on the whole his first two seasons weren’t that good at all. Season 10 is a amazing but it’s let down by the god awful Xmas special. RTD2 has not been bad at all yall just coping
I can't say I'm surprised that the promise of the Giggle, when that episode aired the idea that the promise of a fresh start was entirely hinged on keeping the old toys around forever was all I could think about. It was a very shallow gesture, that speech where he lists all the old episodes was when I realised we're never moving forward with this show
60 years what else has lasted that long and where are they now? Beyond television it’s like comics and I gotta say Spider-Man hasn’t done much growing lately
I think that even though the Sutekh plot started out as a headcanon of 10 year old Russel, Russel is now using it as an AIDS survivor guilt metaphor. I think that the “I thought it was fun” scene holds a lot of parallels to what Davies had said in articles about It’s a Sin in relation to his life and his experience to AIDS when he was young. Death unknowingly following the Doctor as he spreads it and denies anything is wrong. But like you said that scene doesn’t really connect to much; The most payoff here exists in the “I represent life!” scene which is basically just fantastical wish fulfillment. As you said in the last video, this is Russel post losing a loved one.
Something I liked that a lot of people didn't was the Pandorica. The Doctor says it holds the most feared thing in all of existance, something that would just appear one day and destroy everything. Then it turns out to be told from the perspective of the villains, and the most feared thing in existence is the Doctor himself.
..Y'know, I sat down on my lunch break today with the intention of writing an emotionally dense Doctor Who fanfic idea I've had brewing for a couple of years. And I got lazy, and instead watched this video. 23 minutes in, it told me to write that damn story. So damnit, Davis, I'm writing the damn story.
im reading this is how you lose the time war right now, it's a brilliant book that captures just how interesting and beautiful a time travel war and love story can be. this is the doctor who that i want on tv. i want writers this capable with this much passion to lead the show. like you said, there's brilliant doctor who media and inspired stories everywhere so im looking forward to seeing as much as possible. i will never see this show lead by trans women telling stories about trans women. i will see beautiful fanfiction exactly like that made by people far above doctor who struggling to get into an industry that hates them. tv doctor who kinda did end for me with twice upon a time, ive been forcing myself along ever since. a suicide recovery story was exactly what i needed, it's the best ending for this chapter.
Desperately not trying to rec the Faction Paradox line like a truly fanrotted individual 😅 I really need to get around to This Is How You Lose The Time War though, been on the tbr for ages.
I also like the thesis statement of The Doctor being the Champion of Life, but god do I wish it was pulled off more substantially. Would’ve been nice if Russell committed to serialized TV and Sutekh was a presence throughout the season. Have there been a theme of death and the Doctor beating death throughout the whole season, THEN have it turn out that The Doctor has literally been bringing death to all these places, briefly breaking him before he recognizes that he has been beating death even at the same time that he’s been bringing it. But there I go, asking for full stories again.
The Doctor thinks he's old but I'm ancient enough to remember when this was a Naruto channel. Also, Pyramids of Mars was better than any of this despite having the pacing of an elephant pregnancy
great work, totally not one of the most depressing videos I've seen all year even counting the documentary on homeless people with dementia I saw a few months ago
if I had a shot at the series I'd bring the time lords back and do something inspired by the reforms of post war Britian with galifrey working to change for the better and move away from its outdated political system to try and make their world better post time war to make amends for the mistakes of their past which lead to endless stagnation and the doctor helps out, maybe fighting a faction of time lords that want to maintain the old political system.
Idk why this plot of galifrey being around scares old writers from the wilderness years . I’d love a future rebrand where the doctor is quite literally tied to a pole (galifrey ) like a dog and intially tasked to do the time meddling desires . He meets a companion and slowly reawakens up to why he’s loyal to a home that never cared for him
@@hued2542the problem is you’d basically have to ignore the time war to ever allow the doctor to work for Galifrey again without major resistance. Hell that’s what I found so funny abou the timeless child the doctor acting surprised the time lords were scumbags who’d experiment on a child for regeneration
The thing that really gets me about this finale is that in the moment, the cliffhanger worked for me, but it loses everything in a greater context. “You thought it was Susan, but it was actually me, Sutekh!” That’s literally what it hinges on. Sure, it means something to older fans and/or those have been deep diving the series. To people who started with New Who and never looked back, casual viewers and especially people who’ve started with the Disney era, this isn’t going to mean anything. “Who is the One Who Waits? Who did the Toymaker and Maestro fear? Who’s been pulling the strings? It’s…… this one guy who the Doctor fought once”. RTD1 bought back quite a few classic villains- Autons, Macra and the Sontarans were just woven into their respective stories, and new viewers had a reason to care about the finale threats: Series 1- Even if you’ve never seen 5 seconds of Doctor Who, you know what a Dalek looks like. Even then, we had an episode halfway through the series dedicated to one, which showed just how much of a threat Daleks are. Cut to the finale cliffhanger- a whole army of them show up. Series 2- Cybermen are pretty recognisable too, but again there was a mid-series story dedicated to building them up. Daleks, see above Series 3- The Master gets by more on name recognition than appearance, but even if a new viewer doesn’t understand the implication of his name, the episode sells the threat of it- we’ve had 3 series of being told that the Time Lords were powerful, but wiped out. Then another one shows up and he’s evil. Series 4- Davros doesn’t have the most bombastic unveiling. However, the episode around it sells him- the Doctor is stunned, Sarah Jane is terrified at hearing his voice and Davros is in the middle of a Dalek fleet stealing and conquering planets. “The Daleks are back and with their creator, oh boy!” Series 14- Sutekh just pops up onscreen for the first time in 49 years. No context for newer viewers until the next episode, and it’s just “Oh no, it’s that guy! We’re screwed for some reason”. The One Who Waits could have been Omega, Morbius, Fenric, The Valeyard, Sil or Professor Zaroff and it would have the same impact. Like, imagine this sort of thing at the end of Bad Wolf- “200 ships, more than 2000 onboard each one. That’s just about half a million of them” “Half a million what?” “Vervoids” Or Army of Ghosts- “The sphere is not ours, we merely followed it” “Then what’s inside it?” *Thick, Brummie accent blaring out from the void ship-* “WEEEE, ARE, THEEE, KRO-TOOOONS, AND, YOU, WILL, BEEEE, DEEE-STROYEEEEED!”
I think that Legend of Ruby Sunday sort of circumvents this by immediately labeling Sutekh as The God of Death, which is universally a concept most people can understand without knowing about Classic Who History (Along with using the actual Ancient Egyptian names Set and Seth)
@@MichaelO2000 Fair point, I can see that. Though it does pivot into the other thing that really bothered me. Sutekh is the God of Death and he displays that at the start of the next episode by wiping out most of the universe. Cool, except that as soon as I saw the likes of Rose, Carla, Cherry and Mrs Flood getting Thanos snapped, I knew that there was going to be a reset button ending. As a result, I didn't feel anything. Doctor Who and a lot of media rely on suspension of disbelief; you know that it isn't real, but when written well, you can invest in the story and care about what happens. Killing off a character or threatening to should be a shocking event, but revival Who has long since worn out that card: Rose will die in battle? No, just trapped in another universe. If Donna remembers the Doctor, her mind will burn and she will die? The first time just knocks her and the threat out, and she's cured by the second time. Rory is dead!..... It just took about 10 times to stick (To be fair, it was more of a reccuring theme). Jenny is dead! Strax restarts her heart. Clara is dead! The Doctor breaks the laws of time to bring her back. Bill is dead! Now she's a puddle. Again with suspension of disbelief, the question of Doctor Who and other series isn't "WILL they get out of this one?", it's "HOW will they get out of this one?" Even then, there's potential for the side cast and even companions to go through the grinder. It's increasingly becoming "How long will it take for the Doctor to reverse everything?". Did I want everyone to stay dead? No, but when you kill characters and just undo it so often, it gets a bit numbing. There's other ways of building tension and creating stakes- the Doctor/a companion getting trapped somewhere, the TARDIS being lost, manipulation etc
Everytime i rethink about this episode i get The Wedding of River Song vibes. It's a total mess with some really cool ideas handled in a extremely lame way. The idea of Ruby's Mom being a nobody and that concept perplexing a God in a show like Doctor Who is honestly fun but it's executed so drunkenly that it loses it's luster. Weaponizing the premise of the show and a companion? Honestly fucking wild and I'm up for it! But it's done so nonchalantly.
I think doctor who would be better if Russel just occasionally had an old bloke come in and tell the Doctor the plot of the episode so Russel can get back to writing his shitty headcanon fanfics
RTD and Vince Russo have mostly great ideas for stories and can write characters of substance. Both creators need a filter or a valve to control the most strange and outright bad ideas from reaching TV or streaming.
BiGeneration really was the warning shot for this season as a whole. Rather than confidently move into the future Russel has anchored a foot in the past and stymied DW’s progression. I won’t lie, I really enjoyed parts of this approach. Boom felt like classic NewWho which was nice after all the mediocrity of the Chibnal era. But for all of Chibnal’s faults as a writer he did at least give DW fresh energy, which this season was sorely lacking. Since Series 15 is already in the can I’m not expecting much improvement, but I hope Series 16 can bring in some fresh voices and unshackle us from the ghost of New Who.
I ended up reading the 10th Doctor’s Titan comics shortly after this episode, and was struck by how much better the Sutekh finale in that series was. That was when I officially knew that tv Doctor Who was no longer “the main event” of the franchise to me anymore.
I ADORE Noobis and Sutekh in that run. The inclusion of everything folklore really makes it all feel so much more special than Sutekh was in the old show.
Would basically the movie Face/Off with The Master and The Doctor trading places to infiltrate the other's lives? It'd be interesting to see what The Master does away from The Doctor and what their take of being the doctor is for them. Jodie's finale did parts of this but I want to see both as the other.
Think that you may ever do fan rewrites of RTD 2 like you and Josh did with Jodie’s/Chibnall’s era? I guess if you do then it would be best to wait for the era or at least Ncuti’s tenure to be over, but I’d love to hear any ideas you two end up having!
@MichaelO2000 it'll also need a lotttt more expanded media! But here's hoping it picks up to the point that it won't need it. I think the perspective I came up with for Ruby wanting to find her mother is the main addition anyhow. Thanks for watching bud.
I was expecting him to compromise with Sutekh, possibly appeal to his investment in Doctor Who, possibly an emotional appeal or a disparaging putdown about him having gotten invested in something beneath a god. I was also thinking that it would end with Sutekh sticking along for the series for a nice neat conflict (That still allows for loose continuity) in Series 2. If they're going to have "the history of Doctor Who" save the day, why not go all in?
It is so disappointing because Ncuti deserves his own thriving era of Doctor Who. I felt the rest of the season was finally some varied, and serviceable to decent episodic storytelling and that was exciting. I don’t know why Russel won’t keep tying the rotting carcass of decades old nonsense to the poor man’s legs and telling him to run. He is such a refreshing presence and he deserves refreshing stories.
The Sutehk being the 'god of death' thing might be better if we find out these gods are nothing more than powerful false idols that the doctor needs to take down a peg
In the right hands we could’ve gotten a sick Egypt centric saga . Instead it’s all glossed over . Why have a huge budget and still centre things in London 😭 why did they have to craft a stupidly huge set for that hologram scene when we could’ve gotten some awesome Egyptian tunnels and sets
1:45 - I agree but it's a bit bitter moment for me. As Kate already got to shoot down the zigon + she gain advantage of the situation by pretending to be them. I honestly feel like RTD have totally skipped the Moffat's era. And the first sign of that was him saying that no one got to run around the TARDIS sence Rose (what about the victorian maid called Clara?)
Beside all the mystery box nonsense and Sutekh's defeat being the absolute definition of anticlimatic, I did not appreciate Ruby's story "wrap-up" at all. Character-wise, the episode felt like Moffat's weakest outings for me, not something I expected from RTD, who despite all usually delivers on that front at least.
Like, as a weeb, it's hard not to look at where each show runner has taken the series and not compare it to how early fans of Gundam went on to work with the IP and make all of their OC fanfic canon. There's a reason you *don't* hire the super-fans to work on the shows (just look at The Witcher ffs.) I think the last 15+ years of New Who have suffered from that syndrome of hiring the super-fans for whom the series was this power fantasy and really think they'll know "what's best" for the series/IP, because they just love it so much. This has been a frustration of mine from the start of New Who. And believe me, I know the OG series suffered from this too, but the people at the top were more willing to tell the show runners no, for good more than for ill, when you look at it holistically. I think RTD and even Moffat would have been a good script editor or overall advisor, but the nostalgia call-outs are exactly why you don't make them show runners-- because it just becomes a big power-fantasy nostalgia trip for them, where their rose tinted glasses are front and center, and it makes them super defensive if you challenge their nostalgia. I wanted the tv series to end at 11, not because I didn't want a female Doctor, but because Capaldi's Doctor felt definitive. He's the only one who could be a massive fan of the show and yield his nostalgia for the character/IP at the same time. That's *incredibly* rare. The most graceful thing they can do is end the tv series and let it get lost in the weeds/wilderness again.
The bit that gets me annoyed about Sutekh hanging out in the Tardis is they never use the Toymaker messing around with reality, or the thing about Salt, he was always there? So why introduce a rewound Dr Who? Why bring up he rewrote reality by making a myth real, and then when they meet a guy that messes with the rules say Bi-generation was a myth? Also it bugs me that Ruby says "my real" mum, bit rude to the woman who raised you for 19 years Ruby! And it's intentionally a flaw! But only in the script notes! I can't read that when I'm watching the tv show Rusty! Will say I love during the Doctors life speech I love the low angle shot of Ncuti hanging out the Tardis, very dynamic, very fun, makes me imagine it's an adaptation of an exciting comic version of this.
on the topic of "i have to make the videos": if you made videos highlighting fanfilms and fanfiction and other cool fan stuff in addition to (or even instead of) just the official tv media, official audio/prose/comic media etc, it could only increase my love for your channel and your voice as a fandom Figure.
While it's my least favourite episode of the season, I didn't hate it. All of my issues were just the usual suspects, so I focused on what I enjoyed, I love the small details like Canonising The Jugganauts, The scene with the kind woman, The Doctor and Ruby working together to defeat Sutekh etc. For me the mystery boxes and arcs weren't finished cooking by the end of this season, I wish Russell had pushed this story back to allow it time to breathe, freeing two spots for new writers and more time for Russell to flesh out the rest of his stories. He apparently has 4 seasons of ideas, I see no reason to rush things especially if this was supposed to be a grand reboot.
Honestly my thing with Empire of Death is that it solidified the idea that this season doesnt have enough episodes. I feel like while this would have still felt like a redo, but if davies had the full 13 episodes I feel like we would have more episodes that were good to balance out the finale. I honestly though this season was pretty solid, not the best who has produced, but it was solid and I liked most of the episodes, but there wasnt enough episodes to let the season be good despite the finale.
Is it weird that one of my biggest criticism for the episode is that Ncuti's not wearing his "hero outfit" (the brown leather coat with the blue pants) in the climax? I think it is really important that the Doctor is in "uniform" during the big heroic moments. It also doesn't help that, for some reason, 15 wasn't revealed in his hero outfit.
It's going the same way as the classic series, isn't it? Lazily written stories. A lack of fresh ideas. A tired show runner who's been hanging around too long, too much climbing up its own continuity and things that mean nothing to younger and newer and casual viewers. Makes me sad.
The most egregious thing is the hypocrisy of the production team. For several years now, fans have been told that they’re out of touch and unwelcome. And yet the showrunners are old fans themselves. They constantly hark back to and recycle things from old Who and their own episodes, often making them the crux of major episodes and storylines. Even when they claim to be taking the show in a new direction for a new audience, they can not stop themselves from making nostalgic and nonsensical fan wank. But according to them it’s the fans who are the problem.
I loved your take - They are running on half remembered cheap RTD fumes. I think that defines my feelings for where it is right now. I would have loved it had the Fresh Ncuti reboot been brave and different and built something to go forward. But RTD got dollars in his eyes and signed away overall creative control, (IMHO - as Disney would want to closely monitor how their investment is going to help bring people to their service). Sadly $100m got us a Brigerton parody and Bonnie Langford on a moped.
I don't think we will truly know (not for a few years yet) what the creative relationship between Disney / Bad Wolf / BBC on Doctor Who is actually like. I am inclined to believe that Russ didn't need much pressure from Disney to try and emulate the D+ Marvel/StarWars model. To him that was the exciting fresh thing for doctor who to do next, even tho its felt old since Wandavision. It may sound reductive but rather than emulating the Disney franchise model id like to see Doctor Who take notes from HBO. People are rightly sceptical of GoT spins offs and House of the Dragon S2 but I think usually HBO gets it right. Putting story first, then once you have told the story move on to the next one, only referencing stuff when its natural. Not empty Easter Egg audience bait.
@@MorpheusJorge That is very true. I think the HBO method output has shown they can get story and world building arcs right on a number of occasions that I've seen, and it would be great if they followed that example. I would also like them to look at the way long-running Japanese anime manage to keep characters growing without them feeling overstayed. Look at OnePiece or Haikyu. It would be good to have the same Doctor last 4,5 or even 6 big seasons, not these 8-ep efforts, but I know that won't happen. I would love it., the characters and material can support it.
We need a doctor and Jaimie duo again. It baffles me and as much as I love bill . Why they didn’t cash in on the trend of wacky scientist and young guy duo that Rick and Morty popularised in the 10s. Capaldi really needed someone to butt heads with. A male companion would’ve been so refreshing for a literal pilot rebrand in series 10. He’s also one of the few beside ecelston that could’ve made it work. Would’ve loved a m/m plot sprinkled in to. It’s like the one thing doctor who doesn’t want to tackle . It always has to be jokingly danced around . I was hoping rtd might set things right but the romance in rogue is childish and pretty out of character. You just can’t have an ancient alien that’s could through so much just gushing over someone cause there hot…
You are right. It seems like he doesn't really care anymore. Where is the story? Where is the depth? I really hope it improves in the second series. Yes, cut corners and giant leaps. Nonsense scripts cut to an inch of their lives...yes, for me the tv show is really running on fumes but big finish is now my core engagement with doctor who.
Davis. It's been 5 years, we need anothet book recommendation video. The show is in desperate need of some wilderness years or some new writers & showrunners, and since that will take years. Please, some new book recommendations
I think Sam is right. RTD is just doing half-assed fanfiction. I wasn't impressed with the Star Beast or the Giggle, either. Gatwa and Gibson are carrying the show with their talent and chemistry.
If the Memory TARDIS had stayed in Tales of the TARDIS just to have those fun little moments with the cast of those stories I think I would have really liked it as a fun gimmick which maybe those shorts could idly speculate about in some whimsical way. As it is though... everything you said 🤮
There’s stuff you said that I agree with. The finalé was a total dud. Sutehk’s return was not a success. It didn’t hold together. I totally agree. But otherwise, I just think you’re being really really harsh. When you’re talking about the corpse of doctor who and stuff, I’m just … come on. This season was great! Only Space Babies and the finalé were truly bad. That’s the most consistent season in decades. 73 yards was good! Boom was good! Legend of Ruby Sunday was great. Rogue was REALLY fun even if it wasn’t the most solid episode. Dot & Bubble was great too. Like I tried really hard to like Jodie’s era. I didn’t get on with most of it. I didn’t want to fight with other people about it though, and I thought a lot of people didn’t like it just because she was a woman and that’s infuriating. But THIS season has been really good! I just don’t see what you’re seeing. This episode? TOTAL dud. infuriating. Also - while we’re on the subject, the show has ALWAYS been like this. Like there are a fair number of cringey duds in RTD1 and some .. underwhelming finalés. Some great ones too. But hovering Time Lord angel?
A TV show I'd like to recommend to Doctor Who fans who miss when the show was better: Resident Alien. Its three seasons in and in my opinion hasnt missed a mark. Theres tons of similarities between it and many doctor who themes / stories, but often pay off better than doctor who. Also, its from one of the writers who worked on Our Flag Means Death. Cannot recommend this show enough to Sci-fi fans missing good tv.
The annoying thing is that the while myatwry mother thing was done far better with Bill. Ruby nevwr brings uo her mother between her first and last episode and yet we're supposed to believe that it's really important to her but I basically forgot that she was adopted bwcause she never mentions it. It also makes no sense when it comes to sutekh, so no one else cares about their parents as much as the character who never bothers to bring them up in 9 episodes.
It's utterly baffling to me how entirely dogshit rtd2 has been 😂 the man is an incredible writer and this couldn't possibly have gone badly, yet I haven't properly enjoyed any of his return episodes
I genuinely wish some indie animation company on RUclips starts producing their own little doctor who animated series with the style of Hazbin Hotel or something like that.
If this story ended with the Doctor declaring he’ll search for Susan, the theme of searching for lost family MIGHT have paid off. Instead, it left me utterly flabbergasted and deflated.
I never even considered such a simple ending beat. That'd be exciting and clean and if that was the intention, it'd have been the bare minimum.
Empire of Death really solidified my opinion that we desperately need new writers, the wilderness years writers need phasing out sooner rather than later. The show hasn’t been covering new ground since series 11, and that’s tragic.
I mean, I'd have no issues with Parkin, Loz, or Orman popping in for an episode or two. But, uh, they shouldn't be the main creative force, and it shouldn't be the same three or four we've been endlessly recursing on for the past two decades.
I think it's a mix of RTD looking at the wrong places as a way to renew the show, while also indulging himself. It seems like he is mostly targeting a younger audience with short-attention span, so everything in this season feels rushed, fast, The Doctor and Ruby are jumping around from one adventure to another, with no time for them to sit down and talk. Pretty much the first ten minutes of Space Babies is a speedrun through the show's lore, despite Series 1 in 2005 taking a whole season to slowly unveil the Doctor for us. In Rose we get introduced to character and the TARDIS, in End of The World we see his backstory and later we meet the Daleks.
What Ruby wants besides her biological mother? What does this incarnation of The Doctor stands for? He seems healed, but at the same he doesn't. Why he considers Ruby his best friend? I don't know, because RTD thinks it's not important to make the characters talk about it.
I feel like RTD just shielded himself by talking down to the fans, by saying things ''Doctor Who is meant to be FUN and SILLY! You shouldn't take those things so seriously!''
So I think this is a symptom of RTD running on auto pilot and having such a grand ego he doesn't need to edit his scripts. Young audiences do not care, it hasn't been marketed to them at all. Tis all a farce.
@ RTD is certainly the revival writer with the biggest ego, even his first era is pretty self-aggrandising.
@@nocturne8333 god imagine saying this in 2014, the amount of condensation you'd get in response
14:40 Yisssss. I really think 'magic' and 'loose rules' is code for "What if I didn't spend most of my time thinking about plot mechanics, and set-up and pay-off, and A-plot/B-plot." 100%. You can decide for yourself if you like that or not, but I really do think that's the main change he's consciously made coming back. It's a Saturday morning cartoon show, with Saturday morning cartoon logic
What I hate about that angle is that it always tries to sound so profound whilst doing it. Memory...rain...snow...time...life...
The faux-poetry around this toonforce logic is deeply, obnoxiously pretentious. Feels like revival self-parody.
I love the memes from Sutekh just being with the TARDIS as it blows up, gets dropped in lava, gets blown up again, sees about 8 other TARDIS's all with their own Sutekh and so much more.
My favorite is the one implying that Titanic went right through Sutekh's ass before making the big hole in the TARDIS' ceiling
RTD does promotional interviews where he says the new episode is the best thing he's ever written.
RTD does a picture-in-picture commentary during the episode where he says the episode is the best thing he's ever written.
RTD does a behind-the-scenes aftershow where he says the episode you just watched is the best thing he's ever written.
Marvelous!
It sounds like you've hit the Stubagful stage of "acceptance".
Davis defends Early Capaldi and twice upon a time, I think he just doesn’t like RTD2 and is doing everything he can to justify it to himself
@@paddypowerhughesearly Capaldi is leaps and bounds beyond RTD2 so far.
@@lewgallagher463 for Capaldi on the whole his first two seasons weren’t that good at all. Season 10 is a amazing but it’s let down by the god awful Xmas special. RTD2 has not been bad at all yall just coping
I can't say I'm surprised that the promise of the Giggle, when that episode aired the idea that the promise of a fresh start was entirely hinged on keeping the old toys around forever was all I could think about. It was a very shallow gesture, that speech where he lists all the old episodes was when I realised we're never moving forward with this show
60 years what else has lasted that long and where are they now? Beyond television it’s like comics and I gotta say Spider-Man hasn’t done much growing lately
I think that even though the Sutekh plot started out as a headcanon of 10 year old Russel, Russel is now using it as an AIDS survivor guilt metaphor. I think that the “I thought it was fun” scene holds a lot of parallels to what Davies had said in articles about It’s a Sin in relation to his life and his experience to AIDS when he was young. Death unknowingly following the Doctor as he spreads it and denies anything is wrong. But like you said that scene doesn’t really connect to much; The most payoff here exists in the “I represent life!” scene which is basically just fantastical wish fulfillment. As you said in the last video, this is Russel post losing a loved one.
this commentary reaching the final conclusion that the Doctor is a deadbeat dad made me laugh so hard
Something I liked that a lot of people didn't was the Pandorica. The Doctor says it holds the most feared thing in all of existance, something that would just appear one day and destroy everything.
Then it turns out to be told from the perspective of the villains, and the most feared thing in existence is the Doctor himself.
..Y'know, I sat down on my lunch break today with the intention of writing an emotionally dense Doctor Who fanfic idea I've had brewing for a couple of years. And I got lazy, and instead watched this video. 23 minutes in, it told me to write that damn story. So damnit, Davis, I'm writing the damn story.
FUCK YES!
remember to share it with us, pal!
Ao3?
Gallifrey exists whenever the plot is looking at it, something something quantum lock
im reading this is how you lose the time war right now, it's a brilliant book that captures just how interesting and beautiful a time travel war and love story can be. this is the doctor who that i want on tv. i want writers this capable with this much passion to lead the show.
like you said, there's brilliant doctor who media and inspired stories everywhere so im looking forward to seeing as much as possible. i will never see this show lead by trans women telling stories about trans women. i will see beautiful fanfiction exactly like that made by people far above doctor who struggling to get into an industry that hates them.
tv doctor who kinda did end for me with twice upon a time, ive been forcing myself along ever since. a suicide recovery story was exactly what i needed, it's the best ending for this chapter.
Desperately not trying to rec the Faction Paradox line like a truly fanrotted individual 😅 I really need to get around to This Is How You Lose The Time War though, been on the tbr for ages.
I also like the thesis statement of The Doctor being the Champion of Life, but god do I wish it was pulled off more substantially.
Would’ve been nice if Russell committed to serialized TV and Sutekh was a presence throughout the season. Have there been a theme of death and the Doctor beating death throughout the whole season, THEN have it turn out that The Doctor has literally been bringing death to all these places, briefly breaking him before he recognizes that he has been beating death even at the same time that he’s been bringing it.
But there I go, asking for full stories again.
The Doctor thinks he's old but I'm ancient enough to remember when this was a Naruto channel.
Also, Pyramids of Mars was better than any of this despite having the pacing of an elephant pregnancy
great work, totally not one of the most depressing videos I've seen all year even counting the documentary on homeless people with dementia I saw a few months ago
if I had a shot at the series I'd bring the time lords back and do something inspired by the reforms of post war Britian with galifrey working to change for the better and move away from its outdated political system to try and make their world better post time war to make amends for the mistakes of their past which lead to endless stagnation and the doctor helps out, maybe fighting a faction of time lords that want to maintain the old political system.
Idk why this plot of galifrey being around scares old writers from the wilderness years . I’d love a future rebrand where the doctor is quite literally tied to a pole (galifrey ) like a dog and intially tasked to do the time meddling desires . He meets a companion and slowly reawakens up to why he’s loyal to a home that never cared for him
@@hued2542the problem is you’d basically have to ignore the time war to ever allow the doctor to work for Galifrey again without major resistance. Hell that’s what I found so funny abou the timeless child the doctor acting surprised the time lords were scumbags who’d experiment on a child for regeneration
The thing that really gets me about this finale is that in the moment, the cliffhanger worked for me, but it loses everything in a greater context.
“You thought it was Susan, but it was actually me, Sutekh!” That’s literally what it hinges on. Sure, it means something to older fans and/or those have been deep diving the series. To people who started with New Who and never looked back, casual viewers and especially people who’ve started with the Disney era, this isn’t going to mean anything. “Who is the One Who Waits? Who did the Toymaker and Maestro fear? Who’s been pulling the strings? It’s…… this one guy who the Doctor fought once”.
RTD1 bought back quite a few classic villains- Autons, Macra and the Sontarans were just woven into their respective stories, and new viewers had a reason to care about the finale threats:
Series 1- Even if you’ve never seen 5 seconds of Doctor Who, you know what a Dalek looks like. Even then, we had an episode halfway through the series dedicated to one, which showed just how much of a threat Daleks are. Cut to the finale cliffhanger- a whole army of them show up.
Series 2- Cybermen are pretty recognisable too, but again there was a mid-series story dedicated to building them up. Daleks, see above
Series 3- The Master gets by more on name recognition than appearance, but even if a new viewer doesn’t understand the implication of his name, the episode sells the threat of it- we’ve had 3 series of being told that the Time Lords were powerful, but wiped out. Then another one shows up and he’s evil.
Series 4- Davros doesn’t have the most bombastic unveiling. However, the episode around it sells him- the Doctor is stunned, Sarah Jane is terrified at hearing his voice and Davros is in the middle of a Dalek fleet stealing and conquering planets. “The Daleks are back and with their creator, oh boy!”
Series 14- Sutekh just pops up onscreen for the first time in 49 years. No context for newer viewers until the next episode, and it’s just “Oh no, it’s that guy! We’re screwed for some reason”. The One Who Waits could have been Omega, Morbius, Fenric, The Valeyard, Sil or Professor Zaroff and it would have the same impact.
Like, imagine this sort of thing at the end of Bad Wolf-
“200 ships, more than 2000 onboard each one. That’s just about half a million of them”
“Half a million what?”
“Vervoids”
Or Army of Ghosts-
“The sphere is not ours, we merely followed it”
“Then what’s inside it?”
*Thick, Brummie accent blaring out from the void ship-*
“WEEEE, ARE, THEEE, KRO-TOOOONS, AND, YOU, WILL, BEEEE, DEEE-STROYEEEEED!”
I think that Legend of Ruby Sunday sort of circumvents this by immediately labeling Sutekh as The God of Death, which is universally a concept most people can understand without knowing about Classic Who History (Along with using the actual Ancient Egyptian names Set and Seth)
@@MichaelO2000 Fair point, I can see that. Though it does pivot into the other thing that really bothered me. Sutekh is the God of Death and he displays that at the start of the next episode by wiping out most of the universe.
Cool, except that as soon as I saw the likes of Rose, Carla, Cherry and Mrs Flood getting Thanos snapped, I knew that there was going to be a reset button ending. As a result, I didn't feel anything.
Doctor Who and a lot of media rely on suspension of disbelief; you know that it isn't real, but when written well, you can invest in the story and care about what happens. Killing off a character or threatening to should be a shocking event, but revival Who has long since worn out that card:
Rose will die in battle? No, just trapped in another universe.
If Donna remembers the Doctor, her mind will burn and she will die? The first time just knocks her and the threat out, and she's cured by the second time.
Rory is dead!..... It just took about 10 times to stick (To be fair, it was more of a reccuring theme).
Jenny is dead! Strax restarts her heart.
Clara is dead! The Doctor breaks the laws of time to bring her back.
Bill is dead! Now she's a puddle.
Again with suspension of disbelief, the question of Doctor Who and other series isn't "WILL they get out of this one?", it's "HOW will they get out of this one?" Even then, there's potential for the side cast and even companions to go through the grinder. It's increasingly becoming "How long will it take for the Doctor to reverse everything?". Did I want everyone to stay dead? No, but when you kill characters and just undo it so often, it gets a bit numbing. There's other ways of building tension and creating stakes- the Doctor/a companion getting trapped somewhere, the TARDIS being lost, manipulation etc
Very well said.
Everytime i rethink about this episode i get The Wedding of River Song vibes. It's a total mess with some really cool ideas handled in a extremely lame way. The idea of Ruby's Mom being a nobody and that concept perplexing a God in a show like Doctor Who is honestly fun but it's executed so drunkenly that it loses it's luster.
Weaponizing the premise of the show and a companion? Honestly fucking wild and I'm up for it! But it's done so nonchalantly.
I was hoping for that Ruby was a fictional character and 15 had been trapped in the land of fiction for the entirety of this series
That would be a great twist and make the series make sense, somewhat.
I think doctor who would be better if Russel just occasionally had an old bloke come in and tell the Doctor the plot of the episode so Russel can get back to writing his shitty headcanon fanfics
Desperately needed:
a total ban on reference to/recurrence of *anything* from the shows’ history.
26:01 - And it's Skaro! Wait, hold up. Is that how daleks got it back in season 9? Cut it. Cut it! Yes, Janine, just like the whistle.
RTD the second time round is just Vince Russo in wcw
RTD and Vince Russo have mostly great ideas for stories and can write characters of substance.
Both creators need a filter or a valve to control the most strange and outright bad ideas from reaching TV or streaming.
BiGeneration really was the warning shot for this season as a whole. Rather than confidently move into the future Russel has anchored a foot in the past and stymied DW’s progression. I won’t lie, I really enjoyed parts of this approach. Boom felt like classic NewWho which was nice after all the mediocrity of the Chibnal era. But for all of Chibnal’s faults as a writer he did at least give DW fresh energy, which this season was sorely lacking. Since Series 15 is already in the can I’m not expecting much improvement, but I hope Series 16 can bring in some fresh voices and unshackle us from the ghost of New Who.
We are in the new McCoy era.
I ended up reading the 10th Doctor’s Titan comics shortly after this episode, and was struck by how much better the Sutekh finale in that series was. That was when I officially knew that tv Doctor Who was no longer “the main event” of the franchise to me anymore.
I ADORE Noobis and Sutekh in that run. The inclusion of everything folklore really makes it all feel so much more special than Sutekh was in the old show.
Would basically the movie Face/Off with The Master and The Doctor trading places to infiltrate the other's lives? It'd be interesting to see what The Master does away from The Doctor and what their take of being the doctor is for them. Jodie's finale did parts of this but I want to see both as the other.
Millie's Dad is the Trickster, and the whole of reality, fiction and dreams are in a vast ocean powering the tardis.
That would be such a funny Rise of Skywalker twist next season.
😂🔫
Think that you may ever do fan rewrites of RTD 2 like you and Josh did with Jodie’s/Chibnall’s era? I guess if you do then it would be best to wait for the era or at least Ncuti’s tenure to be over, but I’d love to hear any ideas you two end up having!
@MichaelO2000 it'll also need a lotttt more expanded media! But here's hoping it picks up to the point that it won't need it.
I think the perspective I came up with for Ruby wanting to find her mother is the main addition anyhow. Thanks for watching bud.
6:40 Nostalgia 👏 is 👏 inherently 👏 fascist.
33:18 psh, but that would mean internalizing the lessons of what Clara says about the show, and we can't have _that._
Shut up and stop clapping
I was expecting him to compromise with Sutekh, possibly appeal to his investment in Doctor Who, possibly an emotional appeal or a disparaging putdown about him having gotten invested in something beneath a god. I was also thinking that it would end with Sutekh sticking along for the series for a nice neat conflict (That still allows for loose continuity) in Series 2. If they're going to have "the history of Doctor Who" save the day, why not go all in?
16:13 - Got to wait more than a year the least at this point :(
It is so disappointing because Ncuti deserves his own thriving era of Doctor Who. I felt the rest of the season was finally some varied, and serviceable to decent episodic storytelling and that was exciting.
I don’t know why Russel won’t keep tying the rotting carcass of decades old nonsense to the poor man’s legs and telling him to run. He is such a refreshing presence and he deserves refreshing stories.
Amazing couple commentaries, very generous deep dives
Means a lot from you, bud!
Much love 💞
I just need the Sutekh memes injected straight into my veins.
The Sutehk being the 'god of death' thing might be better if we find out these gods are nothing more than powerful false idols that the doctor needs to take down a peg
In the right hands we could’ve gotten a sick Egypt centric saga . Instead it’s all glossed over . Why have a huge budget and still centre things in London 😭 why did they have to craft a stupidly huge set for that hologram scene when we could’ve gotten some awesome Egyptian tunnels and sets
1:45 - I agree but it's a bit bitter moment for me. As Kate already got to shoot down the zigon + she gain advantage of the situation by pretending to be them.
I honestly feel like RTD have totally skipped the Moffat's era. And the first sign of that was him saying that no one got to run around the TARDIS sence Rose (what about the victorian maid called Clara?)
Beside all the mystery box nonsense and Sutekh's defeat being the absolute definition of anticlimatic, I did not appreciate Ruby's story "wrap-up" at all. Character-wise, the episode felt like Moffat's weakest outings for me, not something I expected from RTD, who despite all usually delivers on that front at least.
Like, as a weeb, it's hard not to look at where each show runner has taken the series and not compare it to how early fans of Gundam went on to work with the IP and make all of their OC fanfic canon. There's a reason you *don't* hire the super-fans to work on the shows (just look at The Witcher ffs.) I think the last 15+ years of New Who have suffered from that syndrome of hiring the super-fans for whom the series was this power fantasy and really think they'll know "what's best" for the series/IP, because they just love it so much. This has been a frustration of mine from the start of New Who. And believe me, I know the OG series suffered from this too, but the people at the top were more willing to tell the show runners no, for good more than for ill, when you look at it holistically. I think RTD and even Moffat would have been a good script editor or overall advisor, but the nostalgia call-outs are exactly why you don't make them show runners-- because it just becomes a big power-fantasy nostalgia trip for them, where their rose tinted glasses are front and center, and it makes them super defensive if you challenge their nostalgia. I wanted the tv series to end at 11, not because I didn't want a female Doctor, but because Capaldi's Doctor felt definitive. He's the only one who could be a massive fan of the show and yield his nostalgia for the character/IP at the same time. That's *incredibly* rare. The most graceful thing they can do is end the tv series and let it get lost in the weeds/wilderness again.
The bit that gets me annoyed about Sutekh hanging out in the Tardis is they never use the Toymaker messing around with reality, or the thing about Salt, he was always there? So why introduce a rewound Dr Who? Why bring up he rewrote reality by making a myth real, and then when they meet a guy that messes with the rules say Bi-generation was a myth? Also it bugs me that Ruby says "my real" mum, bit rude to the woman who raised you for 19 years Ruby! And it's intentionally a flaw! But only in the script notes! I can't read that when I'm watching the tv show Rusty!
Will say I love during the Doctors life speech I love the low angle shot of Ncuti hanging out the Tardis, very dynamic, very fun, makes me imagine it's an adaptation of an exciting comic version of this.
on the topic of "i have to make the videos": if you made videos highlighting fanfilms and fanfiction and other cool fan stuff in addition to (or even instead of) just the official tv media, official audio/prose/comic media etc, it could only increase my love for your channel and your voice as a fandom Figure.
While it's my least favourite episode of the season, I didn't hate it. All of my issues were just the usual suspects, so I focused on what I enjoyed, I love the small details like Canonising The Jugganauts, The scene with the kind woman, The Doctor and Ruby working together to defeat Sutekh etc. For me the mystery boxes and arcs weren't finished cooking by the end of this season, I wish Russell had pushed this story back to allow it time to breathe, freeing two spots for new writers and more time for Russell to flesh out the rest of his stories. He apparently has 4 seasons of ideas, I see no reason to rush things especially if this was supposed to be a grand reboot.
Honestly my thing with Empire of Death is that it solidified the idea that this season doesnt have enough episodes. I feel like while this would have still felt like a redo, but if davies had the full 13 episodes I feel like we would have more episodes that were good to balance out the finale. I honestly though this season was pretty solid, not the best who has produced, but it was solid and I liked most of the episodes, but there wasnt enough episodes to let the season be good despite the finale.
I already got the Doctor and Susan reunion in Big Finish with the 8th Doctor. I am perfectly fine with Susan not making another TV appearance.
It felt like it wanted to be the Buffy episode The Gift but without the setup or character work to get there.
Is it weird that one of my biggest criticism for the episode is that Ncuti's not wearing his "hero outfit" (the brown leather coat with the blue pants) in the climax? I think it is really important that the Doctor is in "uniform" during the big heroic moments. It also doesn't help that, for some reason, 15 wasn't revealed in his hero outfit.
It's going the same way as the classic series, isn't it? Lazily written stories. A lack of fresh ideas. A tired show runner who's been hanging around too long, too much climbing up its own continuity and things that mean nothing to younger and newer and casual viewers. Makes me sad.
There hasn't been any good doctor who since I lost my virginity, I think I fucked it
@greghawkins59 heck yeah brutha
At this point, im worried i'll never watch a new Who ever again. Feels depressing.
The most egregious thing is the hypocrisy of the production team. For several years now, fans have been told that they’re out of touch and unwelcome. And yet the showrunners are old fans themselves. They constantly hark back to and recycle things from old Who and their own episodes, often making them the crux of major episodes and storylines. Even when they claim to be taking the show in a new direction for a new audience, they can not stop themselves from making nostalgic and nonsensical fan wank. But according to them it’s the fans who are the problem.
I loved your take - They are running on half remembered cheap RTD fumes.
I think that defines my feelings for where it is right now. I would have loved it had the Fresh Ncuti reboot been brave and different and built something to go forward. But RTD got dollars in his eyes and signed away overall creative control, (IMHO - as Disney would want to closely monitor how their investment is going to help bring people to their service). Sadly $100m got us a Brigerton parody and Bonnie Langford on a moped.
I don't think we will truly know (not for a few years yet) what the creative relationship between Disney / Bad Wolf / BBC on Doctor Who is actually like. I am inclined to believe that Russ didn't need much pressure from Disney to try and emulate the D+ Marvel/StarWars model. To him that was the exciting fresh thing for doctor who to do next, even tho its felt old since Wandavision. It may sound reductive but rather than emulating the Disney franchise model id like to see Doctor Who take notes from HBO. People are rightly sceptical of GoT spins offs and House of the Dragon S2 but I think usually HBO gets it right. Putting story first, then once you have told the story move on to the next one, only referencing stuff when its natural. Not empty Easter Egg audience bait.
@@MorpheusJorge That is very true. I think the HBO method output has shown they can get story and world building arcs right on a number of occasions that I've seen, and it would be great if they followed that example. I would also like them to look at the way long-running Japanese anime manage to keep characters growing without them feeling overstayed. Look at OnePiece or Haikyu. It would be good to have the same Doctor last 4,5 or even 6 big seasons, not these 8-ep efforts, but I know that won't happen. I would love it., the characters and material can support it.
We need a doctor and Jaimie duo again. It baffles me and as much as I love bill . Why they didn’t cash in on the trend of wacky scientist and young guy duo that Rick and Morty popularised in the 10s. Capaldi really needed someone to butt heads with. A male companion would’ve been so refreshing for a literal pilot rebrand in series 10. He’s also one of the few beside ecelston that could’ve made it work. Would’ve loved a m/m plot sprinkled in to. It’s like the one thing doctor who doesn’t want to tackle . It always has to be jokingly danced around . I was hoping rtd might set things right but the romance in rogue is childish and pretty out of character. You just can’t have an ancient alien that’s could through so much just gushing over someone cause there hot…
I felt the reason RTD brought back Suketh was because of BBC iplayer getting classic who. a sad attempt to get new fans to check out the older stuff
You are right. It seems like he doesn't really care anymore. Where is the story? Where is the depth? I really hope it improves in the second series. Yes, cut corners and giant leaps. Nonsense scripts cut to an inch of their lives...yes, for me the tv show is really running on fumes but big finish is now my core engagement with doctor who.
Davis. It's been 5 years, we need anothet book recommendation video. The show is in desperate need of some wilderness years or some new writers & showrunners, and since that will take years. Please, some new book recommendations
I honestly felt the clips from Pyramids and Mars did help. This episode. It made Doctor Who actually feel like an expansive show.
I think Sam is right. RTD is just doing half-assed fanfiction. I wasn't impressed with the Star Beast or the Giggle, either. Gatwa and Gibson are carrying the show with their talent and chemistry.
If the Memory TARDIS had stayed in Tales of the TARDIS just to have those fun little moments with the cast of those stories I think I would have really liked it as a fun gimmick which maybe those shorts could idly speculate about in some whimsical way. As it is though... everything you said 🤮
There’s stuff you said that I agree with. The finalé was a total dud. Sutehk’s return was not a success. It didn’t hold together. I totally agree. But otherwise, I just think you’re being really really harsh. When you’re talking about the corpse of doctor who and stuff, I’m just … come on. This season was great! Only Space Babies and the finalé were truly bad. That’s the most consistent season in decades. 73 yards was good! Boom was good! Legend of Ruby Sunday was great. Rogue was REALLY fun even if it wasn’t the most solid episode. Dot & Bubble was great too. Like I tried really hard to like Jodie’s era. I didn’t get on with most of it. I didn’t want to fight with other people about it though, and I thought a lot of people didn’t like it just because she was a woman and that’s infuriating. But THIS season has been really good! I just don’t see what you’re seeing. This episode? TOTAL dud. infuriating. Also - while we’re on the subject, the show has ALWAYS been like this. Like there are a fair number of cringey duds in RTD1 and some .. underwhelming finalés. Some great ones too. But hovering Time Lord angel?
Will there be a new series of Broke Canon?
Sure, comes out tomorrow.
BREAKING: BROKE CANON, PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW, HAS BEEN DELAYED
@@watchingaccount Braking News, Broke Canon is in a bus crash and is now in a life-threatening coma; reports say it's broken but can be fixed.
I left the scripts for that with my dog, Mack. I'll go check on him and see how they're coming along.
A TV show I'd like to recommend to Doctor Who fans who miss when the show was better: Resident Alien. Its three seasons in and in my opinion hasnt missed a mark. Theres tons of similarities between it and many doctor who themes / stories, but often pay off better than doctor who. Also, its from one of the writers who worked on Our Flag Means Death. Cannot recommend this show enough to Sci-fi fans missing good tv.
The annoying thing is that the while myatwry mother thing was done far better with Bill. Ruby nevwr brings uo her mother between her first and last episode and yet we're supposed to believe that it's really important to her but I basically forgot that she was adopted bwcause she never mentions it.
It also makes no sense when it comes to sutekh, so no one else cares about their parents as much as the character who never bothers to bring them up in 9 episodes.
Her adoption is referenced in 6 episodes, it's the crux of 73 Yards.
Doctor Poo
It's utterly baffling to me how entirely dogshit rtd2 has been 😂 the man is an incredible writer and this couldn't possibly have gone badly, yet I haven't properly enjoyed any of his return episodes
I genuinely wish some indie animation company on RUclips starts producing their own little doctor who animated series with the style of Hazbin Hotel or something like that.
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Cancel Doctor Who
Bit rude to DAVIS, I think these ep reviews are quite fun
He means cancel DW not davis' reviews
What will people complain about next though?
@@AttakusZakus Also One Piece.