Trouble Mixing Modern Metal?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Jordan Valeriote discusses his new double shot lesson with Silverstein and The After Image
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I'm Glenn Fricker, engineer here at Spectre Sound Studios. I love making records, and after doing it for sixteen years, I want to pass on what I've learned. On my channel you can find tutorials on how to record guitar, bass, real drums and vocals. There's reviews and demos of tube amps, amp sims, drums, mics, preamps, outboard gear, Electric Guitar, Bass Guitar, and plugin effects.
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Two of the best! Great seeing you two together my friends!!
Ahh, Warren, happy that Glenn's not in his place anymore 😂
Jordan deserves a lot more subscribers! His approach to mixing is based on getting results and not following specific rules. Congratulations on the course!
Yes, his channel is awesome.
yes!!!!!
First with Warren and now with Glenn! Today's been a good day! Dude is my number 1 go to for metal guitar mixing.
This is what the world should be: two people with different philosophies working together to help.
I know, right!?
God, I fucking love both of these guys.
Nice to see you two working together, I have followed both of you guys for a while and I know you have different approaches so it's cool to see you doing a video together :D
God! i fucking love Jordan Valeriote! Helped me a lot of my mixes with his Hardcore mixing tutorials and EQ cheatsheets!
Jordan Valeriote and Glenn! YOU ARE THE BEST! Thanks for this video!
woo, good timing, just finished a song and i'm working on the mix as I go.
Soo cool seeing to bad asses talk to eachother. It was Jordan's courses that helped me learn to mix as i am still learning and it's Glenn's insight and course i am wanting the challenge of tracking real amps and drums. Old school and new school both taking me to school 🤘
Never would have thought you two would cooperate :D awesome!
Awesome! I follow him on his youtube, he has excellent knowledge to share.
Awesome that Jordan is getting airplay on other channels - great stuff🤘🤘
Love your show Glenn! Hate your taste in music sadly, but still enjoy your content. Thank you for sharing your experience.
the bottom fucking line, most of us dont have access to a drum kit and an ideal room and mics plus the knowledge to get the best results out of it. its such a tall order. Watching folks like Jordan and Dave Otero use samples and make them work with fantastic results means that samples are a solid option. Im glad to see Glen opening up to this reality.
Wow the Tape Head plug-in! Haven't seen that one in a while.
Drum Gate question. Do you animate the volume in your tracks to eliminate bleed then smooth it out with a gate? That way you can hit the threshold much lighter. Or is that just too much?
Let me try answering my own question first.... From what I've learned from watching SMG is that it is a good idea. We use fx as a fix the edges and color up not completely fix the project. The tracks are only as good as the sound they produce and the clarity of the recording. So animating volume would drop loud unwanted signal and leave only the edges to clean up up the gate so the beginning and the end of the sound of whatever "kick, snare, toms" are clear beats with less bleed in the mix of the strike. Gating only the kick and not all the extra crap in the track. Not sure if my answer made sense and which why I ask....
And I edited so it's an actual question.....
GLENN! Hear me out.... How about offering a mix check service like a spell check for music. For people like me learning completely on their own and get just a little nudge here and there, throughout the mix getting us in the right direction. Helping understand where we are messing up, how to fix. And maybe a brief understanding why. Shit charge people $50 for a half hour to go over my mix with me live. Would be cool to have you give advice on my own tracks and mixes.
Nice idea, but the problem lies in the execution. Almost all tutorials offer solutions. However, those solutions are always going to be specific to the project that’s being worked on, because every song is different in frequency and in dynamics. All you can do is pick up on the techniques and apply them in situations that are similar to the lesson.
Learn how to EQ everything it’s own place in the mix, learn how to use a compressor, pop a reference track in and lower it by 10 Db to try to match levels with your song. Pan your instruments.
Everything I mentioned is basic, but can be expanded upon. For example, you could use a compressor, but what would parallel compression bring that’s different? Compression and parallel compression is just one example.
If Glenn doesn’t take you up on this I would. Maybe check out some of the SMH lessons here first? Not about stealing work but as a second option feel free to contact.
@@Focused2341 correct and what I'm getting at is speeding up the learning curve. Not all videos will make thinks click. Especially for someone completely self taught. It take several times ending up weeks or months of making the same mistake and not realizing it until things just click. For example I was compressing a clipped signal not realizing I wasn't fixing the problem I was only compressing the problem. I've been doing this for months as a beginning when it could have taken someone like Glenn to see in seconds the mistake I made, and explain what is going on, why, and maybe some exercises for memory to make sure I don't create the same mistake.
@@ReeWebster I've watched almost all. I'm less than a year in so it's like trying to compile everything he teaches and gives advice all at once. So definitely would be nice to have a spell check as kinda a review over my own mix.
N Maikowski Ah, now I see what you mean. You mean have Glenn check it over. Kind of like a teacher grading a student. That’s a cool idea. My problem with it is that, as a mixer engineer, I would essentially view that as providing my services and would still want to draw up a contract to be paid for my time. After that, one could give permission for the use of copyright to used as a tutorial in video later on. Or perhaps you could draw the contracts to allow the mixer to film the entire session like a tutorial. Compensation for that may have to be worked out too, as it would likely take longer; having to stop and explain moves to the camera and the reasons behind them.
The good thing is Glenn does mix review videos where he takes the time to say what he’d do differently. I know it’s not the same, but at least we have those.
It's my first time actually hearing about hybrid kits.
I'd very much like to see the vid on that :)
Yes do a hybrid kit video! That would be legit af
It’s also interesting to note the repeated use of the word “unfortunately“ in this video. Don’t get me wrong, I I know how you feel about samples and all that. I just always think the use and implications of certain words at certain times is rather fascinating. “Inappropriate”, or “rights” for example. 🤘🏼
Oh hey Jordan!
The Guelph boys are back in town
Go and check out Jordan's channel even if you aren't going to purchase his course. I have come across his channel a lot when searching for random mixing techniques and he's really good.
As much as I love death metal, I've loved Silverstein ever since I first found them in highschool around 03. They have they're own sound at least
Holy shit! Is Silverstein making a huge comeback?!! Because first Shane Told was in an interview with another famous youtuber about the emo days. One of the guitarist was in a Jared Dines video and now a mixing session in here. Im seriously surprised as a huge fan of them.
They never really disappeared ???
@@ryanshreevedrums I know but what I'm saying is that they seem to be having alot of famous youtubers promoting via interviews or music collabs which provides listeners for them which is great they really deserve it. Also Metal in Public did a Silverstein edition aswell.
That Prog tune is like a Metal version of the Cardiacs!
I kind of appreciate when Glenn is shilling for lessons rather than plugins, because you can buy every plugin under the sun and your mix will still suck if you don't know what you're doing. Getting a kid to learn professional production techniques that they can use with free plugins is pretty awesome compared to selling them a plugin they have no idea how to use properly.
(I use the term "shilling" semi-ironically since I appreciate that this channel costs money to operate and ultimately it is a business, and paid promotion videos are one of the few ways a RUclips channel can still make money).
👽 inevitable vegan future 👽 yea, a lot of youtubers are corporate tools wih no opinion of their own and everything is “great” and gets reviewed as long as they get something out of it, but I respect someone like Glenn who at least has some integrity, I understand people need to make a living but some are just too obnoxious to watch.
Screamo was a gateway to metal for a lot of teens circa 2008.
Silverstein!!!
Don't put yourself down like that Glenn. We all know you dont look a day over 62 😂 jk though, as much as people whine that you post alot of videos about pma courses, they have been great resources for many people including myself. I'd personally love if you could possibly release a 5-10 minute video showcasing a part of some lessons (particularly total heavy guitar since im considering getting it 😇)
YES! great idea!
Did he mix Bad Habits by Silverstein as well? That track sounds great. Face of the Earth sounds sic too.
No, A Beautiful Place to Drown was produced (and mixed, I assume) by Sam Guaiana. I agree though, Bad Habits and the rest of that album has a great sounding mix.
@@phantomtearsca tho Sam Guaiana was a student of Jordan's so you could say it also has his touch as well
What don't you like about screamo? Just curious because I prefer screamo over classic metal especially instrumentally
silverstein's smashed into pieces throws me back to my emo phase
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Glenn’s voice is still echoing around
Glen: Drum samples/programmed drums ARE HERESY ! NOTHING PROGRAMMED CAN EVER BE BETTER THAN A REAL PERSON ! YOU CAN'T CHANGE MY MIND
Me: Programmed bass...
Glenn: .......
Have you forgotten Rule #2?
@@CyberChrist Hahaha, true
"Pathogen" How appropriate.
Can't find this man
Glenn is so F**** cool , he is still so open minded and helping out each other in the Music Community... Long live Glenn!!!
Listen up, Glen. I'll bet you a free mix that you can mix my sampled drums better than I can mix real drums.
Second
GASPS IN SPANISH!!! But he uses...SAAAAAAMPLLLLLLLLLLLES!!! 😉😉😉
Aaaaaggghhhh!
What a surprise, another video about a video we can buy. This channel is becoming a complete shill.
Those guitars sound like fake Instagram guitarists on meth.
Wow, that programmed nintendo guitar sounded like shit. Does anyone seriously enjoy that type of music? The entire snippet sounded engineered and lifeless, I'm surprised Glenn gave this stuff a plattform. Anyways, I still appreciate the effort and the view from a different perspective.
Welcome to tech metal where it sounds absurd beyond belief, talented as hell musicians though. Tech death, aliencore, and more all sound like that
@@Upsetkiller456 Mhm, I don't know... I'm a big Prog Metal fan. When I want to listen to extremely talented musicians I prefer bands like Leprous. I guess, modern Metal just isn't my cup of tea. I stopped listening to 'new' stuff as soon as metalcore became a thing...
I'll just stick to prog and black metal bands that don't care if they sound like anybody else out there.
My god, this post reads like I became a real metal snob - fml I'm getting old.
No hate please, But URM Academy is 20$ a month and you get sometimes 2 songs to mix and can win crazy prizes and watch the live mix from all these badass producers,anything over a 100$ is super steep and you can get like 5 months for the price of one
True, but you get to keep these tracks for life.
the thing is, the problem is that its modern metal
Stop replacing kick, and snare hits. Make the drummer nail the parts. Then you don't have to sample replace the performance.