This nice old HR194 came in and the owner was so frustrated with it he gave it to me without hesitation. These intermittent troubles can be the hardest ones to find.
I had a customers HR214 in here last summer that had no spark whatsoever. Ordered a new coil from eBay and I ran into the same issue with the thinner coil frame and the original bolts a being too long. I put a couple of 3/8” nuts between the bottom of the coil and the engine to raise it up so the laminations were cantered with the magnets on the flywheel and it worked beautifully. I think maybe if the coil sits too low the magnet may not line up enough to produce spark. Also on that gas cap pull the rubber vent piece with the hole out and replace the crumbling foam filter. I’ve had a couple of those mowers stall during use due to a vacuum forming in the tank and starving it for fuel because the crumbly foam blocks the vent hole under the rubber piece in the cap. Great mowers but as you said really heavy!
No one ☝️ doubts your amazing knowledge on engine’s , but you must stop beating yourself up with what people think about your camera work. It’s one of the unique trademarks of your channel Sir 👍 Tam.
I was given one of these early models that smokes horrible. I'm hanging on to it as a parts machine because it isn't worth putting a guide kit and rings in it (too much time and parts cost too much). Kind of a shame because it is decent looking and even has a nice catcher bag. I figure the owner (it was trash picked for me by a friend) never changed the oil. The oil in the case was more like tar than motor oil.
Great job I had a couple 214s this year. They seem to have good motors but the clutch and cables freeze up when left outside. Thanks for being a good sport on Mick's channel. I really do appreciate your love for Tecumseh even though I am a diehard Briggs man.
These old Hondas are really good machines, I love my HR214. So simple to operate and it works so well. Even when they're broke you can still fix them, just as Bruce shows. No sense in throwing one away.
After you put on your lab coat I am pretty sure I heard that Honda say I feel better already because the doctor is in. The exam proceeded followed by surgery and placement of a new pacemaker then a transfusion of oil. Lastly trimming and polishing the nails for easy clean cutting. Great fix as usual. I look forward to all your video's. Thanks for sharing.
Bruce: your production and camerawork are fine. Your sense of humor and taste in music are similar to mine. I love your work exactly as it is. I don’t notice in the comments much criticism. I am sure you notice it more than we do. I have learned a lot from you over the 18 months or so since I subscribed. I look forward to the next release and have gone back to view videos from before I was a subscriber. If I got a two cycle Toro Tecumseh snowblower tomorrow that would not run, I google “Bruce Pender Toro Tecumseh snowblower” and most of the time I find one you your old videos that give me the education, information, and entertainment I need. Idk who is being difficult on your awesome output, but I suggest they ought to go watch some other channel or start one of their own. Keep yours 100% Bruce!!
Dropped a Dewalt and a Skil drill from a platform this summer so been there done that too... camera work still works for me and good job on the Honda and yup don't throw nothin away!
Hey brother, I missed you. Had a friend call me a useful idiot concerning politics. Out in the shop rescuing three Wheel Horse tractors. Not really watching you at the moment, but just a friendly voice is good for my mood
I've had one of those in garage all summer waiting for work on blade clutch. It was running right. I thought it was coil but it was the boot. Apparently there's a resistor built in. I cut boot off and put regular metal tip and it ran fine.
Good day eh!!! Yes the coil fault is a hard one to tack down. I had a bad coil on a generator and a log splitter. Frustrating to say the least. The new coil was the answer though. Enjoyed the video Bruce!! Take care!!
Moral of the story, never throw out anything!!! Well, at least hardware, recoil starters, ignition coils, wheels and tires, gear boxes........the list is endless!
My luck has been that I usually throw something out the day before I actually need it! Now whenever I’m at the dump and I see power equipment I just grab it and if it’s not fixable take all the usable parts off of it and bring back the carcass. It’s that one screw or knob that makes a machine “done”! I can’t stand mismatched mower handle knobs and wing nuts and hardware store bolts where a factory carriage bolt, curved washer, and rosette knob should be, it just erks me! I like it to look “Factory Stock”!
Hi, I put a new $20 Amazon Chinese carb on my 1986 HR 214 that didn't start. I had taken the oem carb apart but couldn't get the inner needle valve off to clean it. Anyway, I got the mover to start but it ONLY runs on choke-as soon as you take it off choke it dies. Amazon sent me another carb kit (plug, filter & carb) but same issue, starts on choke then dies when you take it off. I'm stumped. New issue, the rope start is not retracting all the way now-it goes about 3/4 of the way back in.
I would try an OEM carb if you can Before that check the carb gaskets with some carb spray on them as it is running. If it changes RPM that is where the problem is , a bad carb gasket.
Bruce, when you were checking that coil you didn't feel a tingle. If it would have been good you would have been ENERGIZED! LOL. Nice to have spare parts. Saved another honda. Roger
One B&S comes in and the haters come out in full force. Bruce tells us that he is fixing all kinds of broken Hondas and they all make blue smoke too. What are we told? Hondas are great! What can you do.........
"No one gets married anymore" 😂 For no spark and I see an E3 plug, put it right in the trash and get a NGK. Also I would sand down the flywheel before setting the gap. The o-ring goes around the base of the tank / cover I believe.
Bruce Pender I might unsubscribe just so I can subscribe and be Mr. 35k. Lol. Nope. I am sticking right here and awaiting the next chapter. I like to play “ what would I do next?” To see if my thought process is sound. Sometimes I am correct. Sometimes I am surprised. Either way, I learn something that I find interesting.
Hey Bruce, my nephew got 2 free honduh harmony mowers. Got one running after cleaning the carb. Hand to use 3 hands to get all of the linkages and springs in place while bolting the carb back up. Then the trans went out and took 4 hours to swap from one to the other. If the germans built a lawnmower, it would be a honduh. Over-engine-nerd to the max with no thought about serviceability. Gen-u-ine honduh parts ain't cheap here in the U.S. either. Give me an old Briggs flathead any day.
I get some hard to fix mowers sometimes..someone gave me a Husqvarna..Kohler engine..it's a 7 hundred dollar (USA$) mower..lol..the only thing this mower doesn't do is now the grass for you....we. they hit a stump with it and pretzeled the blade....I am already not a fan of Kohler.. or Husqvarna..the jeyway looks good on the flywheel..the crank is not bent...I know for sure now that it has jumped timing..how bad I don't know..ad I haven't taken it apart yet..my thinking is..why didn't they buy a mower with a Briggs engine. Lol..have a great day..
Lab Coat to work on a Honda ...What's next Mercedes Benz lawn mowers and you greet the customer wearing a three piece suit...Your camera skills are getting better ..With my bad vision I tend to have too many close up shots on small parts because I use the camera like a big magnifier...
@@BrucesShop You could sell used mowers and make commercials like those cheesy car commercials in the 70's on late night TV that always had some gimmick.
@@victoredington3316 it will tell you if the spark is getting to ground some how. It is a pretty good indicator but on a intermittent one like this. It isn't perfect. That is why i had a real plug in the loop in this video.
I always feel my spidey senses tingle when Bruce says "I have been collecting parts"... Music to my soul.
Bruce is the man. Another great Job and save by Bruce!
I had a customers HR214 in here last summer that had no spark whatsoever. Ordered a new coil from eBay and I ran into the same issue with the thinner coil frame and the original bolts a being too long. I put a couple of 3/8” nuts between the bottom of the coil and the engine to raise it up so the laminations were cantered with the magnets on the flywheel and it worked beautifully. I think maybe if the coil sits too low the magnet may not line up enough to produce spark. Also on that gas cap pull the rubber vent piece with the hole out and replace the crumbling foam filter. I’ve had a couple of those mowers stall during use due to a vacuum forming in the tank and starving it for fuel because the crumbly foam blocks the vent hole under the rubber piece in the cap. Great mowers but as you said really heavy!
Thanks. I sounds like you know them well.
at the time the Honda was new they were a top dollar machine . After 30 years they still run , worth every dollar us or Canadian . Thanks
Nick I agree. My go to mower for years and years.
Just looking at honda mowers just screams quality! Last forever with proper maintenance!
@@rogermcdonald1607 I agree. The carba are finicky. The ones with the non replaceable seats are tough.
No one ☝️ doubts your amazing knowledge on engine’s , but you must stop beating yourself up with what people think about your camera work. It’s one of the unique trademarks of your channel Sir 👍 Tam.
OK. A few more videos to go then i will stop.
Another great video. I like the way u talk about the other components of the engine while your tearing it apart
Thanks. I do talk a lot. I remember one time when ------------------------------------------------------------------!!!!!!!! LOL
@@BrucesShop lol!!!!!!!!!!!
@@BrucesShop do u ever disagree with yourself???
I was given one of these early models that smokes horrible. I'm hanging on to it as a parts machine because it isn't worth putting a guide kit and rings in it (too much time and parts cost too much). Kind of a shame because it is decent looking and even has a nice catcher bag. I figure the owner (it was trash picked for me by a friend) never changed the oil. The oil in the case was more like tar than motor oil.
Ouch. I understand.
Great job I had a couple 214s this year. They seem to have good motors but the clutch and cables freeze up when left outside. Thanks for being a good sport on Mick's channel. I really do appreciate your love for Tecumseh even though I am a diehard Briggs man.
Oh Don't get me wrong. Briggs is (was??) #1 for me.
These old Hondas are really good machines, I love my HR214. So simple to operate and it works so well. Even when they're broke you can still fix them, just as Bruce shows. No sense in throwing one away.
Exactly.
After you put on your lab coat I am pretty sure I heard that Honda say I feel better already because the doctor is in. The exam proceeded followed by surgery and placement of a new pacemaker then a transfusion of oil. Lastly trimming and polishing the nails for easy clean cutting. Great fix as usual. I look forward to all your video's. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks D Chris
Bruce: your production and camerawork are fine. Your sense of humor and taste in music are similar to mine. I love your work exactly as it is. I don’t notice in the comments much criticism. I am sure you notice it more than we do. I have learned a lot from you over the 18 months or so since I subscribed. I look forward to the next release and have gone back to view videos from before I was a subscriber. If I got a two cycle Toro Tecumseh snowblower tomorrow that would not run, I google “Bruce Pender Toro Tecumseh snowblower” and most of the time I find one you your old videos that give me the education, information, and entertainment I need. Idk who is being difficult on your awesome output, but I suggest they ought to go watch some other channel or start one of their own. Keep yours 100% Bruce!!
Thanks Mr. Haney.
Nice job, Bruce!!! I am always learning something new with you!
I learn too. ;-)
Dropped a Dewalt and a Skil drill from a platform this summer so been there done that too... camera work still works for me and good job on the Honda and yup don't throw nothin away!
Good to hear from you Don
Hey brother, I missed you. Had a friend call me a useful idiot concerning politics. Out in the shop rescuing three Wheel Horse tractors. Not really watching you at the moment, but just a friendly voice is good for my mood
Right. Just live your life to be the kindest you can. Sometimes that is tough. For me too.
This looked a lot more pleasant to work on compared to that abused Craftsman. That "gent" was a special kind of special.
Right. This was a fun repair. An intermittent coil WHEW!!!
Thanks Bruce. I have always wondered if these coils would work. Now I know. You can put a Honda carb on the clone.
Right. Thanks.
I can't believe you have my fav mower giving you trouble. These dinosaurs are usually solid.
They all need a little help now and then. A coil can trip folks up.
Good fix mate.. like the spark tester.. that all smoke a little hey.. but they are a great mower.. hope all is ok over your side
Good to hear from you Mick.
@@BrucesShop no worries mate.. I have emailed you my friend
I've had one of those in garage all summer waiting for work on blade clutch. It was running right. I thought it was coil but it was the boot. Apparently there's a resistor built in. I cut boot off and put regular metal tip and it ran fine.
Good for you for finding that.
I Think the title should be it wont start until Bruce lays hand on it. lol. Great job Sir.
Thanks again sir.
Good day eh!!! Yes the coil fault is a hard one to tack down. I had a bad coil on a generator and a log splitter. Frustrating to say the least. The new coil was the answer though. Enjoyed the video Bruce!! Take care!!
Thanks for watching. I know you are a busy man.
@@BrucesShop Looks can be deceiving!!! LOL
Moral of the story, never throw out anything!!! Well, at least hardware, recoil starters, ignition coils, wheels and tires, gear boxes........the list is endless!
Anything that will fit into a box i keep. (unless i already have 20)
My luck has been that I usually throw something out the day before I actually need it! Now whenever I’m at the dump and I see power equipment I just grab it and if it’s not fixable take all the usable parts off of it and bring back the carcass. It’s that one screw or knob that makes a machine “done”! I can’t stand mismatched mower handle knobs and wing nuts and hardware store bolts where a factory carriage bolt, curved washer, and rosette knob should be, it just erks me! I like it to look “Factory Stock”!
@@KensSmallEngineRepair Me too. If there is a black handle that is round and not pointed I will change it out.
Hi, I put a new $20 Amazon Chinese carb on my 1986 HR 214 that didn't start. I had taken the oem carb apart but couldn't get the inner needle valve off to clean it. Anyway, I got the mover to start but it ONLY runs on choke-as soon as you take it off choke it dies. Amazon sent me another carb kit (plug, filter & carb) but same issue, starts on choke then dies when you take it off. I'm stumped. New issue, the rope start is not retracting all the way now-it goes about 3/4 of the way back in.
I would try an OEM carb if you can Before that check the carb gaskets with some carb spray on them as it is running. If it changes RPM that is where the problem is , a bad carb gasket.
Bruce, when you were checking that coil you didn't feel a tingle. If it would have been good you would have been ENERGIZED! LOL. Nice to have spare parts. Saved another honda. Roger
When I do that, i don't grab the plug end very tight and I make sure i am touching nothing else.
Well snowblower done generator done check. Only thing to do cup of coffee and watch Bruce
Thanks Ted
Another great bruce video great fix sir thanks for the video sir
You are welcome. I just finished my coffee.
10 years on youtube this year bruce 🙂 thankyou for a DECADE SIR 🙂 194 = 19" 4HP GXV120 :-) the gxv160 is 5.5hp
Thanks for the fun
One B&S comes in and the haters come out in full force. Bruce tells us that he is fixing all kinds of broken Hondas and they all make blue smoke too. What are we told? Hondas are great! What can you do.........
I am not as much a fan of Honda's as i once was. However they all have a lot of hours on them
We need to get the old lab coat a name on it I think Bruce should do ! Did you say when you crimped the coil wire sin ? So funny !
I went back and found nothing.
Enjoyed the video Bruce.
Made you laugh! LUV ya Bruce! Great channel.
Thanks for the fun.
Thank you for sharing. From Corpus Christi.
Great job Bruce 👍👍👍👍
Thanks a lot. Ray
"No one gets married anymore" 😂
For no spark and I see an E3 plug, put it right in the trash and get a NGK. Also I would sand down the flywheel before setting the gap.
The o-ring goes around the base of the tank / cover I believe.
Well I had not seen one in the cap before. I tossed it.
I'm seeing more of those E-3 plugs (not a fan). I'll take an NGK spark plug everyday of the week! You can sell the Honda in the spring.
@@mikespain8655 Right in the spring. It is put away now.
Like Your hydraulic lawn more lift. Where did you get that lift and or what is the brand name
Princess Auto in Canada and Harbor Freight in the US for similar models. I have had it many years now.
Thanks Bruce!
nearing 1000 views before 11AM, Bruce you're a RUclips star ! take care eh!
Thanks I never looked. I am watching subs right now. just shy of 35,000
Bruce Pender I might unsubscribe just so I can subscribe and be Mr. 35k. Lol. Nope. I am sticking right here and awaiting the next chapter. I like to play “ what would I do next?” To see if my thought process is sound. Sometimes I am correct. Sometimes I am surprised. Either way, I learn something that I find interesting.
@@haneyoakie14 35,967 subs. I get about 15-30 a day.
nice job as always...
Hey Bruce, my nephew got 2 free honduh harmony mowers. Got one running after cleaning the carb. Hand to use 3 hands to get all of the linkages and springs in place while bolting the carb back up. Then the trans went out and took 4 hours to swap from one to the other. If the germans built a lawnmower, it would be a honduh. Over-engine-nerd to the max with no thought about serviceability. Gen-u-ine honduh parts ain't cheap here in the U.S. either. Give me an old Briggs flathead any day.
I can’t wait til u get the REAL RUclips PLAY BUTTON WHEN U REACH 100k subscribers
Me too !!!!!!!
I get some hard to fix mowers sometimes..someone gave me a Husqvarna..Kohler engine..it's a 7 hundred dollar (USA$) mower..lol..the only thing this mower doesn't do is now the grass for you....we. they hit a stump with it and pretzeled the blade....I am already not a fan of Kohler.. or Husqvarna..the jeyway looks good on the flywheel..the crank is not bent...I know for sure now that it has jumped timing..how bad I don't know..ad I haven't taken it apart yet..my thinking is..why didn't they buy a mower with a Briggs engine. Lol..have a great day..
You are so right.
Good day from Ont. Nice video. How expensive would anew Honda coil be? Thanks boy we got about 4 ins of snow this morning
I found a used on for 43 dollars.
Before you told us, I was talking to the screen saying "thats a kohler coil, thats a kohler coil", I got ahead of the video i guess
I do that to. I had to try one. If it worked would n't that be cool.
Top job runs sweet now. I love Honda's. What camera do you use.
It is an Olympus TG Tough. Flip up screen built in Mic
Lab Coat to work on a Honda ...What's next Mercedes Benz lawn mowers and you greet the customer wearing a three piece suit...Your camera skills are getting better ..With my bad vision I tend to have too many close up shots on small parts because I use the camera like a big magnifier...
I should get a cheap suit. That would be fun.
Bruce Pender Leisure Suit to go with with working on 1970s equipment.
@@haneyoakie14 Ah Ah Ah Ah Barley Alive, Barley alive
Bruce Pender if your blower won’t blow snow, ya gotta know the place to go, Pender’s! Pender’s!
@@BrucesShop You could sell used mowers and make commercials like those cheesy car commercials in the 70's on late night TV that always had some gimmick.
A strong magnet will hold that spark plug for the camera too.
Great idea. Thanks
I guess I owe you a thousand Bruce 🦌‘a 🤣
I'm going to buy a lab coat just like yours Bruce
All I can say is watch the coat doesn't get sucked into the blade on the mower.
another bruce special !
Is there some reason that you don't use an inline spark tester that has the light bulb?
Sometimes I do. They can be misleading . If a spark plug has a leak to ground they will still flicker.
@@BrucesShop OK
All a spark tester does is to see if the coil has spark, right? It won't tell you if the plug is good or not. Correct?
@@victoredington3316 it will tell you if the spark is getting to ground some how. It is a pretty good indicator but on a intermittent one like this. It isn't perfect. That is why i had a real plug in the loop in this video.
@@BrucesShop ok. Are you on american mountain time or what? i am on eastern standard. just wondering what time it is at your house.
👍👍👍👍
Thanks Mel
2nd comment oops. that coil does not look genuine in the first instance (before you changed it) yes i know this was 2020 shock 🙂
Thanks I fix what comes in
If that was a good coil, I would have a hair raising story to tell.
As long as your body isn't ground ANYWHERE else you are OK.