Make an expansion that doesn't take every single opportunity to waste player time and it starts to do well. What a concept. It turns out making a better product makes people like it more.
@@indieramus i dont see any difference of this xpac and dragonflight S1 very much the same besides, daily m0 and another bot pve content(delve) AND 3weeks and a half of no competitive M+ or raiding
I was having so much fun till I realized I hate delves, I'd rather do torghast 🤣 Now I'm so far behind on gear because one section of the game bores me to death that there isn't any point in trying to catch up.
I'm actually shocked at how fun The War Within is. And then you have the classic servers to go to for the old-school hardcore experience. Warcraft is in a good place right now.
It's hands down my favourite expansion of all time already. I'm primarily a high end PvEer but the story is actually interesting, the zone design is great, and I love being able to solo delves for relevant gear with a decent enough challenge when I only have 30 mins to play and don't have time to get a group. Plus the raid is incredibly good and tuned really nicely. Full marks from me!
xalataths voice actor is really hamming it up. really great villain choice. I said fo ryears blizz needed to find a way to make a villain of someone bad we've known of for years, and xal is exactly that, someone we knew was scheming in the background.
What are you on about? :D we knew arthas for years before he came back in WOTLK as big bad ... We knew about deathwing years before cataclysm..yes it was in books and lore outside of the game but hardcore fans knew.. we knew about garosh being son of grom since TBC garadar ... we were with him since then traveling to wotlk defeating lich king..going into cata as warchief defeating alliance on many fronts and twillight hammer and deathwing.. we did go with him into MOP where he became mad we had many villains being in the game for years And yes you are right that's why before the game worked.. and that's why shadowlands failed.. because you can't have jailer being introduced in aftermath of BFA :D :D TWW is doing the old school thing..they took villian from BFA and buildit over time.. I think during this fight with her we gonna met our next arch nemesis..
Ahh but you see, Blizz has figured out that the super casuals like me will only stay subbed if we get spoon fed easy epics whereas those that go for mythic dungeons and raids will stay subbed even if they’re not happy.
We’re still very much in the honeymoon stage of the expansion but I must say that this is one doozy of a honeymoon. 20th anniversary celebration is already looking to make good on what they have so far. Only issue I’m seeing right now is tuning with the delves but they’re also working on it. Hopefully they iron that out.
Bellular's style of thumbnails, the bold white text, a single red underline, a fairly cinematic but clear subject photo.... somehow it just looks modern. Really clean....far removed from a red box and a red arrow and a screaming face looking at the camera
Finally others are noticing and calling it out. The content creators like preach bell etc are so telegraphed after all this time. Im starting to think they are getting paid by blizz at launch to make positive videos.
The comment "only the strongest survive" made me give an O.K. to the previous times where Xal just let us waltz around her plans. She's clearly conserving her energy, every bit of it, and would rather evade or completely ignore us than waste a single iota of strength. She won't fight us until she knows she'll destroy us.
Might have something to do with the fact that they're actually continuing the story where it was left at the end of Legion. It's absurd that it took FOUR expansions to circle back to "Sargeras stabbed Azeroth with a giant sword." Hell, it apparently took Metzen returning to Blizzard to remind them. Like he left and everyone who worked on the game at the time forgot about it.
Honestly. Atm war within is a banger. Gearing is super fluid, alts are so easily available and worked around. Professions seem better then dragonflight. Raiding is pretty good feeling with difficulties. Pvp is kinda wild tho. They keep this up without the bobby playbook we may actually recover lol
08:20 Nearly a millenia? She was imprisoned by N'zoth during the Black Empire and that was like 25.000 years ago, making Xal'atath one of the oldest beings in the universe, most likely older than Velen and the man'ari eredar, and in the end they are just mortals still.
China you can pay to boost with good gear, max rep, and max flying lol. It's likely that many of them have several alts. You have no clue how china plays the game it is not like NA.
@@JSIguess lucky. It’s sad that a game with apparently so many people feels so dead still. At least on my server group, which apparently doesn’t have a low population.
@@NotjustGrey You playing on a realm that is primarily the opposite faction? Join proudmoore alliance side and I can tell you the general and trade chat has to be muted with how many people spamming chat it literally flies by.
Tww so far has been great! My only complaint is the tuning of delves and dungeons has been pretty suspect. And the release cadence of m+ and raid felt pretty bad.
Agree, we're about to finish it on Sunday and I know it's not the end of the world but I wanna see it in the game, not as a background in a youtube video...
You're right Bellular, WoWs recent performance is shocking. It's like they haven't bothered to optimise the game at all. Even on good PCs the game is dropping FPS for no valid reason.
The game has more polish and they gave us a real story for once. We know the Big Bad. The Big Bag is a charismatic scene-stealer. Their ultimate plan might be a mystery but their motivations are not. They're working for the void and whatever they're trying to do is definitely gonna be bad for us, no question about it. No 'shades of gray' in this character. They're just delightfully evil. The only negative about the story is Alleria's character, who is dumb as a bag of rocks except for that one moment at the end. That didn't feel like character growth to me, just "it's time for me to win because the episode's almost over" main character-itis.
They got mop remix sod retail.amd classic activity all in last month. Acting like its a 4 different monthly users when its just one loging into four products
The whole “exploit early exploit often” thing.. this has always made me scratch my head. This kind of thing happens, as far as i can remember, at the release of every season. They know it, we know it.. all they would have to do is set a daily / weekly / monthly cap to things. If the cap is done with wisdom people who want to be try-hard will still be able to.. they should easily be able to do the math on max expected gains in any given time frame. But they don’t. Having such a simple fix and making the choice not to says a lot..
0:20 😂 They straight up put actual detail into her soles. I don’t think they’ve ever done that in WoW for any model. This *has* to be fan service for a very specific, select group of fans, right?
Played as Demo Lock and I have to say that they gutted the spec completely. It just plays so bad. I can imagine that there are more specs being in that state. Maybe Hero Talents are the culprit. There are so many passives/procs that makes you do multiples of your normal damage which you cannot control. That always feels bad.
No, people have not come back. Its thesame delusional casuals except now they generate monthly active user for sod mop remix classic and retail. Raiding in each as much as possible.
Data that track me not playing due to the servers being down... again. And getting dc, avoiding high lag zones. Not finishing dungeons due to dc's and so forth.
i didnt reach max level in dragon flight, but this one, im already 4/8 HM. Yes the patch is good and i am returning to WoW, which wouldnt surprise me if other are like me
It's been over 30 days and so many people with missing items in their Guild Bank has been completely ignored by Blizzard. Doesn't matter how many players there are now if Blizzard doesn't care about them, they will quit.
The game hasn't honestly been this fun in years, probably since Legion or maybe even before that. DF paved a great way for TWW with all of the much needed QOL changes in terms of gearing, talents and the like and TWW is (so far) shining as a result of that. As for the raid end cinematic, i personally kind of feel like the last campaign chapter where Aleria breaks the heart should have happened after the raid, say Xal launching an all out assault on Hallowfall with the remaining forces of the Ansurek after she fails to stop our advance in the raid. I think that would feel better and it would lead better into whatever the next story chapter is going to be
I get the feeling that normal is meant to foster a pug scene that can lead into a heroic being pug/static guild and then into mythic as a full on static guild big race big hardcore deal
No, its meant to make these amoebas validate monthly active user numbers in multiple versions of wow by killing a boss. Because then blizzard goes to the investors and say, see? We got multiple active users killing bosses in wow classic, retail and mop remix in thesame month. We have loads of customers, invest in our stock.
Annoying to have the raid final cinematic when it's not officially even out yet for a lot of players. Makes you unable to watch the video or get spoiled
i figured the opposite because they sent me a long survey trying to figure out why i resubbed for prelaunch but didn't buy the xpac (combo of too busy + burnt too many times by bad xpacs) Like the survey kept asking me about what ads i liked and if they made me want to play. kind of funny because the more i saw the ads they less i wanted to play
Am I the only one feeling TWW story is overhyped? It feels juvenile and not written with an adult audience in mind. Adding more cutscenes and stay-a-while listens is a great boon, but the writing and dialogue are still mid at best. I wonder if them being limited by voice acting budget or cutscene length is partly to blame for how underwhelming it feels to me.
I do think it mostly has to do with Dragon flights story being so "friendship is everything!" The story so far isn't terrible, but there are still plenty of moments where I'm going "this is still rough, and still has that modern writing mindset." Most cinematics with Xal is just her bragging about being multiple steps ahead in a slow dragged out speech. She's cool I guess, but she doesn't have that menacing big boss energy, she just feels like another Sylvannas who's gonna be betrayed by her master again.
Nope, not the only one. Only reason everyone thinks it's so good, is because it's been soooooo bad for soooooo long. It's mediocrity masquerading and greatness.
I hated DF, hated the “Common kids, let’s discovery the dragon isles together” type mentality they brought, I am almost convinced to play this expansion.
Its slop. The story is bad, the leveling is non existant, its wole box ticking and revealed is the reason, to fool investors. Thats why you get into raids asap and generate montly active user for each version of wow.
I played a ton of WoW between Vanilla and Catacylsm. I didn’t play very much of WoD, Legion, BFA or Shadowlands, it just didn’t stick with me and I would quit after just a couple of days. War Within feels SO good. I haven’t been this hooked on WoW in over a decade. Between dungeons, delves, pvp (both world pvp and bg/arena), world events, world quests and exploring the ways the profession systems work, there is so much to do and I’m having a blast.
Haven't played WoW in years, I consider myself super casual. I came back to play The War Within after my main MMO RuneScape announced the largest price hikes in the game's history. They made it $14/mo and WoW is only$15/mo, it was so close that I finally decided to jump ship and just move on over to World of Warcraft and I've been enjoying it a lot :) new changes make it much more friendly for people like myself to get back into it, especially level 10 flying mounts in Dragonflight leveling.
The new quest UI and arrow have helped me traverse the game and my quests with clear separation between side quests and main quests. The arrow almost reminds me of like a pre-installed 'Zygor' but from Blizzard themselves. I find myself not getting lost as much as I used to.
One of the reasons for WoW's decline is the no-life demographic that sprints through mythics and raids and then demands more content while ridiculing and filtering anyone less "hardcore". New players don't want to join a game like that. Do you think new players want to watch a channel that spoils cinematics for content they won't clear until it's released on Raid Finder? These people who do NOT already check every WoW news site daily are potentially a strong demographic for a conveyor of curated information like yourself, but it seems like you're targeting the hardcore demographic instead.
Yeah putting the end of raid cinematic as the primary shot right at the start of the video is a bit unfair to those who wanted to experience it organically.
@@Toastybees It’s not unfair to want to experience the cinematic as it was intended to be seen in game, and more so to be warned that said cinematic would be used as background footage in this video. Bellular is usually pretty good about giving a verbal warning with regard to story spoilers, both discussion and footage-wise. As largely inconsequential as the cinematic is, I think that heads up would have been appreciated by those who do care.
I was a hardcore player back in the day. I put probably 20k hours into Wrath, but I stopped playing shortly after Cata came out. This expansion, after seeing some of my friends pop in to play, actually pulled me back in as well. I went through dragonflight (really don't get the gripes about story on that one) and got into TWW and am happily surprised by the quality. Story was great, sidequests were great, delves are great, dungeons are ehhh imo. Still good, just relative to everything else a little hit or miss. I don't know if I will end up sticking around long term, but they did get at least an Expac purchase and a month out of me. So I guess that is a win for Blizz lol.
You mean near the 20th Anniversary when we're getting upscaled T2 remasters & BRD raid? Numbers are going to be through the roof, and just as it dies down around Christmas, we'll be getting close to next raid. It's all good.
I cameback to wow recently. War within wasnt really reason. More that SoD came to my attention, then I decided to explore whats new around. I like many changes that happened, I think the game got better, talents feel more wow than in BFA. Still with the level squish some quests are impossible to complete and this kind of sucks. I think they are on the right path now more than anytime since WoD.
I hate the delves :/ singleplayer isnt possible with casters, cant tank em, too much damage, cant kite em either cause "muh candle going out" -.- Also the are really not fun, just a normal dungeon without the story or anything else.
You know what? i think blizzard is going to really react hard to seeing how large wow is in china right now, im not sure what theyre going to do, but they now see THAT is where the money is at, and NOT in north america or europe..
Having played since TBC, every modern expansion (besides Legion i guess) gets extolled as "finally" wow is fixed in the beginning, but gets complained about by those same people by the last patch. It seems like a repetitive cycle to me. I gave up mid-Dragonflight so I'm not reliably able to say whether this is actually different or not.
They didn't roll back everyones reputation. My guilds main tank always leveled while multi boxing and was hit with the ban, but his reputation was not rolled back or removed.
Bear in mind that China has government limits on the amount of time you can game, so they arent actually alting the same way western players alt. Western players can play many alts and as many hours per day as fits their lifestyle. But in China there is a hard-cap on how much you can play
wtf is this drama show, I'm just checking in to see what has become of (what used to be) our beloved game, and all I hear is "Then she said this, then she did that, and she then, now she feels like this" ResidentSleeper
It makes sense that normal is piss easy when they give less gear than delves. Push yourself to the limit alone or get 9 pals and stroll through the raid
I thought you meant performance as in... optimizations... Im running a meager 5800X3d and 7900XT..... I have everything turned to max and RAY TRACING is enabled!!! averaging well over 100 FPS and it looks absolutely stunning. The visual teams need a raise.
Perform better in Season 1 with our keybinding masterclass: bellular.games/the-ultimate-k...
w8, i will never get my draenei futa?!😡
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2K REPLIES AND NO INFORMATION -- IT HAS BEEN A MONTH
What this shows is what players prefer as world of warcraft content. They preferred wotlk. Clearly. A release of wotlk in US would probably show this.
"Sylvanas coomers"
"drenai futa"
WTF bro just pulled that shit out of pocket without skipping a beat.
i need timestamp for research... and for community
Bellular Based.
@@dedpal Around 15:20
Did I hear that right?
@@KibblesDoesStuff Sure did!
I FINALLY REALIZED WHY THEY CALL IT THE WORLD “SOLE” SAGA
XDXD
holy sh*t i cackled 🤣
good one
Really putting a “foot” in your mouth, bro.
Even after reading 1000s of comments the pst month saying the same thing, huh?
TWW may be crushing DF - but DF pathed the way for TWW - by bring in crucial QOL changes
HARD AGREE
Who cares lol
Lol no it didn't
@@joelhodoborgas I guess you, otherwise you wouldn't have commented. What a genius fuckin thing to post
What’s the point? You could say legion was good but WOD paved the way for that how does that sound?
Make an expansion that doesn't take every single opportunity to waste player time and it starts to do well. What a concept. It turns out making a better product makes people like it more.
Y who could've thought..! 😂👍🏻
They stopped the time wasting at the end of SL
@@kye4216 You feel like Dragonflight respected your time?
@@indieramus i dont see any difference of this xpac and dragonflight S1 very much the same besides, daily m0 and another bot pve content(delve) AND 3weeks and a half of no competitive M+ or raiding
@@indieramus yes. DF was the best expansion yet.
It's not shocking.
Make good game
People like to play good game.
I think the shocking part is that they made the good game at all.
The shocking part is that it's good. WoW was bad/subpar for so long
Gotta get that clickbait title
I believe it. This game hasn't been this fun since legion. I am actually starting to play again.
had to start myself also, even ordered new Razer Naga (cause im so used to Nagas lol)
I was having so much fun till I realized I hate delves, I'd rather do torghast 🤣
Now I'm so far behind on gear because one section of the game bores me to death that there isn't any point in trying to catch up.
DF was more fun than Legion. legion just had a better setting. the minute to minute gameplay in DF was better.
Then you are fucking gullible...
I'm actually shocked at how fun The War Within is. And then you have the classic servers to go to for the old-school hardcore experience. Warcraft is in a good place right now.
I agree! I’m having an absolute blast!! Very much WotLK fun
Indeed. It's good to be back
It's hands down my favourite expansion of all time already. I'm primarily a high end PvEer but the story is actually interesting, the zone design is great, and I love being able to solo delves for relevant gear with a decent enough challenge when I only have 30 mins to play and don't have time to get a group. Plus the raid is incredibly good and tuned really nicely. Full marks from me!
just seems same to me for 20 years, level, dungeons, world quests in different forms and raids
Im shocked people still fall for this slop.
xalataths voice actor is really hamming it up. really great villain choice. I said fo ryears blizz needed to find a way to make a villain of someone bad we've known of for years, and xal is exactly that, someone we knew was scheming in the background.
I happen to know her personally, we are not super close or anything, but we stay in touch. It's probably some of her best recent work in games imho.
Voice acting is such an underrated part of what makes a good villain. It’s a big reason people loved Denathrius.
Ivanova for lyfe 😎
@@TastyScotch There's always time for boom tomorrow.
What are you on about? :D
we knew arthas for years before he came back in WOTLK as big bad ...
We knew about deathwing years before cataclysm..yes it was in books and lore outside of the game but hardcore fans knew..
we knew about garosh being son of grom since TBC garadar ...
we were with him since then traveling to wotlk defeating lich king..going into cata as warchief defeating alliance on many fronts and twillight hammer and deathwing..
we did go with him into MOP where he became mad
we had many villains being in the game for years
And yes you are right that's why before the game worked..
and that's why shadowlands failed..
because you can't have jailer being introduced in aftermath of BFA :D :D
TWW is doing the old school thing..they took villian from BFA and buildit over time..
I think during this fight with her we gonna met our next arch nemesis..
Ahh but you see, Blizz has figured out that the super casuals like me will only stay subbed if we get spoon fed easy epics whereas those that go for mythic dungeons and raids will stay subbed even if they’re not happy.
Yep, and I'm here for it. Delves and solo shuffle will keep me subbed forever.
We’re still very much in the honeymoon stage of the expansion but I must say that this is one doozy of a honeymoon. 20th anniversary celebration is already looking to make good on what they have so far.
Only issue I’m seeing right now is tuning with the delves but they’re also working on it. Hopefully they iron that out.
Bellular's style of thumbnails, the bold white text, a single red underline, a fairly cinematic but clear subject photo.... somehow it just looks modern. Really clean....far removed from a red box and a red arrow and a screaming face looking at the camera
Copied from many other channels. It works though.
@@solotopp Bellular plays the game as much as he has too. If he played it any less his videos wouldn't appear in our feeds and we'd forget who he was.
I've seen random channels use the exact same style down to the color choice and font so I guess it's a recent trend
It's way more ideal this way
Personally I think they need to work with more depth. Make the forground feel closer let the text be slightly affected. Then we coooking boys.
I predict 3-4 more hype videos until we reach "TWW - What went wrong"
Always like that.
Other channels were doing that on day one 😂
Finally others are noticing and calling it out. The content creators like preach bell etc are so telegraphed after all this time. Im starting to think they are getting paid by blizz at launch to make positive videos.
Ah the snarky negative comments never cease to be so funny and original
@@dreadbull5039 just spitting facts over here brudda
So a million new Chinese players and 10 million bot farmers?
Taiwanese bot farmers.
The comment "only the strongest survive" made me give an O.K. to the previous times where Xal just let us waltz around her plans. She's clearly conserving her energy, every bit of it, and would rather evade or completely ignore us than waste a single iota of strength. She won't fight us until she knows she'll destroy us.
She can destroy us now. It's the Arthas problem all over again right now, but without the benefit of him actually winning save for Deus Ex Ashbringer.
@@Voltrocshe doesn't want to interrupt various prophecies by jumping the gun
Or she's just reading the script until it gets to the part where "They fight the boss and win"
Might have something to do with the fact that they're actually continuing the story where it was left at the end of Legion. It's absurd that it took FOUR expansions to circle back to "Sargeras stabbed Azeroth with a giant sword." Hell, it apparently took Metzen returning to Blizzard to remind them. Like he left and everyone who worked on the game at the time forgot about it.
That draenei futa joke caught me off guard 😂😂
Jokes on them, you could client-side mod models a decade ago :D
You know I really like her as a bad guy. She’s a real bad, nothing redeeming nothing to feel sorry for, she is a bad. I love it
This guy likes feet
Honestly. Atm war within is a banger.
Gearing is super fluid, alts are so easily available and worked around. Professions seem better then dragonflight. Raiding is pretty good feeling with difficulties. Pvp is kinda wild tho.
They keep this up without the bobby playbook we may actually recover lol
Its garbage, but you have no taste so you juat follow marketing generated hype
Gearing is too easy
This is exactly the slopification of wow bobby started and aimed for. You are just a happy pig in shit
08:20 Nearly a millenia? She was imprisoned by N'zoth during the Black Empire and that was like 25.000 years ago, making Xal'atath one of the oldest beings in the universe, most likely older than Velen and the man'ari eredar, and in the end they are just mortals still.
So why is she so stupid?
8:29 imagine if the player characters could have this amount of detail in them.. instead of.. wahtever it is we get.
It's been too long since the last graphical update back in MoP.
Customisation will only get better since people like it so much. Wait for transmog contest in November 🤣
@@yoloautumn we're talking about the same company that listed half a dozen new hair colours as a major patch feature.
You're comparing a cutscene animated seperately for anything else to our in-game models, of course the former looks better.
@@ThyFleshConsumed Warlords, not MoP
These people saying "BUT PEOPLE PLAY 20 ALTS IN CHINA WOW IS DEAD" are unreal
China you can pay to boost with good gear, max rep, and max flying lol. It's likely that many of them have several alts. You have no clue how china plays the game it is not like NA.
The completely dead trade and general chat give that impression as well.
@@NotjustGrey general and trade chat are popping of in my game, so much so i had to disable them.
@@JSIguess lucky. It’s sad that a game with apparently so many people feels so dead still. At least on my server group, which apparently doesn’t have a low population.
@@NotjustGrey You playing on a realm that is primarily the opposite faction? Join proudmoore alliance side and I can tell you the general and trade chat has to be muted with how many people spamming chat it literally flies by.
Tww so far has been great! My only complaint is the tuning of delves and dungeons has been pretty suspect. And the release cadence of m+ and raid felt pretty bad.
I could swear on an old video, you called it that the VOID maybe the biggest enemy in some capacity. Apparently you were RIGHT!
might want to spare end raid spoilers til story mode is released.
It’s not really a spoiler 😂
Agree, we're about to finish it on Sunday and I know it's not the end of the world but I wanna see it in the game, not as a background in a youtube video...
Spoiler alert, we win.
No
@@DadsCigaretteRun If you played eternal palace it could of been spoiler considering what happened to Azshara.
I feel like they’re not a cakewalk to the average person. You do still have to engage with the mechanics it’s not entirely trivial.
yes please play the raid cinematic that I haven't watched right at the start of the video, appreciated
Stop supporting corporate slop
You're right Bellular, WoWs recent performance is shocking. It's like they haven't bothered to optimise the game at all. Even on good PCs the game is dropping FPS for no valid reason.
7900gre 7800x3d that eats wow alive is sometimes getting stuttering,crazy 😂
???? what do you define a good pc i get 200 fps+ ar max wtf replace your toaster
@@madlinkers8595 RTX 3080, 12600k, 32 gigs of RAM. WoW should NOT be dropping to as low as 60 in this raid. That's horrendous optimisation.
@@Spiffo0 update your drivers
Yes im not alone, im on an UW 2k i naver had issue before but on this DLC my computer can't keepup once there's too much npc
Xal’s piggly wigglies had all the gooners entranced. 😂
Dragonflight saved WoW, (and now Metzen is saving the lore)- but overall, we should all credit DF for this success as much as TWW❤️🔥
story about raid might arrive once they release the solo story version of it
Brother, They just switched to NA and EU for the time there servers where down. They use VPN's to connect to western servers.
This man is seeing through the ruse, bellular has a financial incentive to remain blind
The game has more polish and they gave us a real story for once. We know the Big Bad. The Big Bag is a charismatic scene-stealer. Their ultimate plan might be a mystery but their motivations are not. They're working for the void and whatever they're trying to do is definitely gonna be bad for us, no question about it. No 'shades of gray' in this character. They're just delightfully evil. The only negative about the story is Alleria's character, who is dumb as a bag of rocks except for that one moment at the end. That didn't feel like character growth to me, just "it's time for me to win because the episode's almost over" main character-itis.
100%
If only we still had western Wrath realms... Those numbers would be even higher - including me. Not like now where I'm not having any MMO to play :(
They got mop remix sod retail.amd classic activity all in last month. Acting like its a 4 different monthly users when its just one loging into four products
Costumes and mounts. The true endgame: 🙂👍
The whole “exploit early exploit often” thing.. this has always made me scratch my head. This kind of thing happens, as far as i can remember, at the release of every season. They know it, we know it.. all they would have to do is set a daily / weekly / monthly cap to things. If the cap is done with wisdom people who want to be try-hard will still be able to.. they should easily be able to do the math on max expected gains in any given time frame. But they don’t. Having such a simple fix and making the choice not to says a lot..
I hate the new art direction. It's generic bland fantasy
Correct, its slop
0:20 😂 They straight up put actual detail into her soles. I don’t think they’ve ever done that in WoW for any model. This *has* to be fan service for a very specific, select group of fans, right?
high player counts for blizzard is a real life allegory for if you throw enough shit at a wall something will stick
Yes, shit will stick...
nice clickbait
I think people have come back to try it out, but unless they fix abandoned classes quickly they’ll lose all interest and fall down again.
Y they need to fix some classes proper and some need numbers tuning..more than just the ones going live the 17th..
What class is abandoned?
Played as Demo Lock and I have to say that they gutted the spec completely. It just plays so bad.
I can imagine that there are more specs being in that state.
Maybe Hero Talents are the culprit.
There are so many passives/procs that makes you do multiples of your normal damage which you cannot control.
That always feels bad.
No, people have not come back. Its thesame delusional casuals except now they generate monthly active user for sod mop remix classic and retail. Raiding in each as much as possible.
Expansion launch has peak player count? Say it ain't so!
Its not just retail, its duplicate user activity across multiple versions of wow, so slash the number in 3-4 parts.
I swear those soles get more detailed in every cutscene.
It's not that shocking, make the game more fun and accessible and less chore-driven and more people enjoy it.
Data that track me not playing due to the servers being down... again. And getting dc, avoiding high lag zones. Not finishing dungeons due to dc's and so forth.
I didn't play since Legion and I believed I won't install it again. But now I'm addicted again...
i didnt reach max level in dragon flight, but this one, im already 4/8 HM. Yes the patch is good and i am returning to WoW, which wouldnt surprise me if other are like me
It's been over 30 days and so many people with missing items in their Guild Bank has been completely ignored by Blizzard. Doesn't matter how many players there are now if Blizzard doesn't care about them, they will quit.
The game hasn't honestly been this fun in years, probably since Legion or maybe even before that. DF paved a great way for TWW with all of the much needed QOL changes in terms of gearing, talents and the like and TWW is (so far) shining as a result of that. As for the raid end cinematic, i personally kind of feel like the last campaign chapter where Aleria breaks the heart should have happened after the raid, say Xal launching an all out assault on Hallowfall with the remaining forces of the Ansurek after she fails to stop our advance in the raid. I think that would feel better and it would lead better into whatever the next story chapter is going to be
I get the feeling that normal is meant to foster a pug scene that can lead into a heroic being pug/static guild and then into mythic as a full on static guild big race big hardcore deal
No, its meant to make these amoebas validate monthly active user numbers in multiple versions of wow by killing a boss.
Because then blizzard goes to the investors and say, see? We got multiple active users killing bosses in wow classic, retail and mop remix in thesame month. We have loads of customers, invest in our stock.
If it was doing this great Blizzard would be shouting it from the rooftops... but they're not
Annoying to have the raid final cinematic when it's not officially even out yet for a lot of players. Makes you unable to watch the video or get spoiled
i figured the opposite because they sent me a long survey trying to figure out why i resubbed for prelaunch but didn't buy the xpac (combo of too busy + burnt too many times by bad xpacs) Like the survey kept asking me about what ads i liked and if they made me want to play. kind of funny because the more i saw the ads they less i wanted to play
I’ve been coming back for short times for each expansion since legion and now I can’t stop playing. It’s very fun!
Am I the only one feeling TWW story is overhyped? It feels juvenile and not written with an adult audience in mind. Adding more cutscenes and stay-a-while listens is a great boon, but the writing and dialogue are still mid at best. I wonder if them being limited by voice acting budget or cutscene length is partly to blame for how underwhelming it feels to me.
Ye ur the only one
I do think it mostly has to do with Dragon flights story being so "friendship is everything!"
The story so far isn't terrible, but there are still plenty of moments where I'm going "this is still rough, and still has that modern writing mindset." Most cinematics with Xal is just her bragging about being multiple steps ahead in a slow dragged out speech. She's cool I guess, but she doesn't have that menacing big boss energy, she just feels like another Sylvannas who's gonna be betrayed by her master again.
Nope, not the only one. Only reason everyone thinks it's so good, is because it's been soooooo bad for soooooo long. It's mediocrity masquerading and greatness.
Correct, it feels stupid, i think saturday morning cartoons act with more logic
I use the wow token to gauge player activities. The lower the token value means the higher the player activity.
Xalataths feet is what made me buy this expansion, idec about the loot or lore
"a certain kind of person"
*shows Xal's feet*
good lord man 🤣🤣
People who like feet are disgusting weirdos
next store mount is a AH mount. They'll make so much money
I hope so.
I hated DF, hated the “Common kids, let’s discovery the dragon isles together” type mentality they brought, I am almost convinced to play this expansion.
Its slop. The story is bad, the leveling is non existant, its wole box ticking and revealed is the reason, to fool investors. Thats why you get into raids asap and generate montly active user for each version of wow.
I played a ton of WoW between Vanilla and Catacylsm. I didn’t play very much of WoD, Legion, BFA or Shadowlands, it just didn’t stick with me and I would quit after just a couple of days.
War Within feels SO good. I haven’t been this hooked on WoW in over a decade. Between dungeons, delves, pvp (both world pvp and bg/arena), world events, world quests and exploring the ways the profession systems work, there is so much to do and I’m having a blast.
Wait, you mean we really ARE "so back?" I thought that was just a meme.
Nah, response has been rather positive so far, outside of a few issues
The propaganda, rhe overall response was rather negative, but the peoole who didnt leave wow will consume anything becauae they got no standards...
Haven't played WoW in years, I consider myself super casual. I came back to play The War Within after my main MMO RuneScape announced the largest price hikes in the game's history. They made it $14/mo and WoW is only$15/mo, it was so close that I finally decided to jump ship and just move on over to World of Warcraft and I've been enjoying it a lot :) new changes make it much more friendly for people like myself to get back into it, especially level 10 flying mounts in Dragonflight leveling.
The new quest UI and arrow have helped me traverse the game and my quests with clear separation between side quests and main quests. The arrow almost reminds me of like a pre-installed 'Zygor' but from Blizzard themselves. I find myself not getting lost as much as I used to.
The enemies seem to be smart this time around and that works. I will never forgive them wasting N'Zoth though.
One of the reasons for WoW's decline is the no-life demographic that sprints through mythics and raids and then demands more content while ridiculing and filtering anyone less "hardcore". New players don't want to join a game like that. Do you think new players want to watch a channel that spoils cinematics for content they won't clear until it's released on Raid Finder? These people who do NOT already check every WoW news site daily are potentially a strong demographic for a conveyor of curated information like yourself, but it seems like you're targeting the hardcore demographic instead.
Could you not show raid story spoilers literally at the start of the video without any kind of warning. Why was this even needed?
No cinematic spoilers until it’s available in story mode would be appreciated!
Yeah putting the end of raid cinematic as the primary shot right at the start of the video is a bit unfair to those who wanted to experience it organically.
Literally, I'm over here like "wtf"
WoW the patch boss is defeated and the bigger bad acts smug about it, how transformative and unforseen. Y'all really cry about anything.
@@ToastybeesAnd to top it all off, nothing was even revealed from it other than some smug scene chewing from Xal.
@@Toastybees It’s not unfair to want to experience the cinematic as it was intended to be seen in game, and more so to be warned that said cinematic would be used as background footage in this video. Bellular is usually pretty good about giving a verbal warning with regard to story spoilers, both discussion and footage-wise. As largely inconsequential as the cinematic is, I think that heads up would have been appreciated by those who do care.
WOW could go back to W0TLK size or even surpass it if WOW goes on Game Pass it could redefine WOW in a Massive way.
Pls no...
Normal raids should be "easy". Leave the difficulty to Heroic and Mythic.
You know Raid Finder is the easy mode, right?
@@Flipdiddles hahaha, LFR you fight against the other players not the bosses. :D
Imagine wanting good gear for free
@@johngrimm1103what about story mode?
Pugged normal with only 10 wipes, seems like a u issue
Way too early to spoil anything from the final cinematic, dude... It might have been a cake walk for your guild, but the majority is yet to get there
I was a hardcore player back in the day. I put probably 20k hours into Wrath, but I stopped playing shortly after Cata came out. This expansion, after seeing some of my friends pop in to play, actually pulled me back in as well. I went through dragonflight (really don't get the gripes about story on that one) and got into TWW and am happily surprised by the quality. Story was great, sidequests were great, delves are great, dungeons are ehhh imo. Still good, just relative to everything else a little hit or miss.
I don't know if I will end up sticking around long term, but they did get at least an Expac purchase and a month out of me. So I guess that is a win for Blizz lol.
Not going back until Ara Kara final boss is nerfed in mythic.
Bellular: "World of Warcraft’s Recent Performance Is Shocking."
Everyone: Tell me more about that 30 days from now, Cupcake. 😉
You mean near the 20th Anniversary when we're getting upscaled T2 remasters & BRD raid? Numbers are going to be through the roof, and just as it dies down around Christmas, we'll be getting close to next raid. It's all good.
Wrath Classic is huge?
Maybe we should like, bring it back...
I cameback to wow recently. War within wasnt really reason. More that SoD came to my attention, then I decided to explore whats new around. I like many changes that happened, I think the game got better, talents feel more wow than in BFA. Still with the level squish some quests are impossible to complete and this kind of sucks. I think they are on the right path now more than anytime since WoD.
I LOVE Hallowfell. Man it’s up there on all time favorite zones.
That last paragraph went so hard so fast I had to make a double take.
A lot of FF14 players like myself may be coming back to WoW because of Dawntrail. I'm really enjoying WoW again after a decade long break.
From one piece of garbage to another and then back again...
Ouch, my guild got stuck at council normal
I hate the delves :/ singleplayer isnt possible with casters, cant tank em, too much damage, cant kite em either cause "muh candle going out" -.- Also the are really not fun, just a normal dungeon without the story or anything else.
Yes, its crap
You know what? i think blizzard is going to really react hard to seeing how large wow is in china right now, im not sure what theyre going to do, but they now see THAT is where the money is at, and NOT in north america or europe..
Having played since TBC, every modern expansion (besides Legion i guess) gets extolled as "finally" wow is fixed in the beginning, but gets complained about by those same people by the last patch. It seems like a repetitive cycle to me. I gave up mid-Dragonflight so I'm not reliably able to say whether this is actually different or not.
Damn you gotta give me time to prepare for a sentence like that lmao 14:23
That "Be like Trantino" line killed me, but your not wrong, I'd write the same scene if I could 🤣
and now they're gonna wreck everything by destroying delves
Xal'atath is essentially in the same position as Cortana was albeit not being on the "good" side at all
The raid finale only makes sense if it happens almost simultaneously (hours before) the campaign finale.
and that is only possible by making it an requirement.
And new specs for dracthyr!!!!! Can't wait to make a warrior Drac
They didn't roll back everyones reputation. My guilds main tank always leveled while multi boxing and was hit with the ban, but his reputation was not rolled back or removed.
Blizzard delivering inconsistent and confusing storytelling in WoW? That sure is unusual and not what they usually do at all (sarcasm obv.)
You know, Idk how long my enjoyment will last, but I am enjoying WoW right now. I have not enjoyed WoW this much since MoP.
Ignorance is indeed bliss
oooooook so we are getting varians sword in the trading post, well imagine what they might come with in the future. frostmourne replica
Bear in mind that China has government limits on the amount of time you can game, so they arent actually alting the same way western players alt. Western players can play many alts and as many hours per day as fits their lifestyle. But in China there is a hard-cap on how much you can play
Yeah, no. China doesn't even have the same client we do nor do they get sub fees from them. They probably get a relatively small franchise fee.
I am one of those pumped up numbers. Back since BFA
Heroic feels like a step up from H dragonflight
wtf is this drama show, I'm just checking in to see what has become of (what used to be) our beloved game, and all I hear is
"Then she said this, then she did that, and she then, now she feels like this"
ResidentSleeper
i don't want hear about china raising the numbers they are a separate ecosystem of the game
It makes sense that normal is piss easy when they give less gear than delves. Push yourself to the limit alone or get 9 pals and stroll through the raid
I thought you meant performance as in... optimizations... Im running a meager 5800X3d and 7900XT..... I have everything turned to max and RAY TRACING is enabled!!! averaging well over 100 FPS and it looks absolutely stunning. The visual teams need a raise.
I have a 7500f and 3060ti and I agree im getting 50-70 fps and it is nice.